The Automation Effect At Ports Of LA And Long Beach
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.พ. 2019
- Artificial intelligence, self-driving trailers and automated cranes. The future is right now at the LA and Long Beach ports. Technology is taking over and it is unfortunately replacing human workers. Tom Wait reports.
So more people and less jobs. Basically is our future.
And oxygen goes out of my body every time I breathe out. Soon I will drop dead from lack of oxygen!
Vw lover everything becomes cheap atleast
It’s because the unions suck the employers dry, causing rising cost and down town due to strikes
@@chen5237 And what happens then? People have more to spend, which means more jobs are created.
izdatsumcp New Jobs created it is already talked about in government during the hearings
There is a serious issue of every company expecting every other company to provide the consumers with income to spend. What is taught in business school is to be greedy, there is no teaching of responsibility to society. A casino has zero output of product and nothing physical is created that benefits society, it is a mathematical model to strip as much income away from a community as possible, as legally allowable, with no resulting transferable asset having been created from lesser materials into something of higher value. Emotion and misconception of statistical odds, feelings of dependence on luck and chance for a happy life. Thats all it outputs to society. Nice leadership we have.
AlohaMilton yep, absolutely well put.
Well spoken
I work down here. Trust me this shit is so slow it’s ridiculous 🤣🤣
How do I apply?
Only person running for POTUS in 2020 is talking about this as a real issue, so people are not left behind.
Yang 2024
Amazing
Those jobs are gonna be lost because of automation it will affect the entire city neighborhoods small businesses it will have a range of jobs loss there can not come back
The ILWU doesn’t care when they strike/blackmail the local, state, and National economy. The ILWU is corrupt and inefficient, we need to automate the ports now.
Where is the rest of the interview?
No more delays
Work 24 7
We are a working society. That's why we pray taxes, and people benefit from taxes. Automation is awesome, but it should be regulated.
I, for one, LOVE the new self service kiosks that replaced all the minimum wage workers at fast food restaurants. Now the people that still have jobs can make $15/hr. Its long overdue
@@Rickety3263 That's sarcasm right?
The Money is FAKE, it's a Scam. Why should a liny little group of people get to PRINT all of the Money the Rest of us use out of THIN AIR...
And that the same time we have lots of jobs that no one wants to do because they are paid to low and to boring
@@TecSanento That is an excuse pushed by people that want to continue paying for slave labor, or lobbied politicians or media to parrot it to the citizens.
Wow, we are way behind other countries. We are supposed to embrace the loss of thousands of good paying jobs. I'd love to know what those other countries did for their displaced workers. I know progress is necessary, but where do people/workers fit into the equation?
Robots don't pay taxes either
@@conservativeamber1216Agree with you lady. Nobody talks about it. And what about the wages ? Who will feed our families.
you think tailand is really worried about replacing lost jobs for workers?
@@histriamagna1014universal basic income baby. Everyone will get some tokens
Yeah we should replace those pesky machines building things and doing work so my Chinese immigrant family can go back to building rail roads
Amazing how you can spin something - another video about this same idea was about making Long Beach greener and more efficient.
Exactly, "don't think, we'll think for you".
It Never happened like they wanted it
Production and Numbers went way down
And also the Port can buy Green Vehicles and have Longshoremen drive them so no Jobs are lost.
People have families to feed
But Nope Big Rich Companies don't care about that
And amazing how many jobs are being thrown out the window too hey? This is not good
The hold up it’s getting the containers out of the Port of LA on trucks. Somebody at some time stopped trucks from running 24 hours a day. Anybody know who that was?
when did that ever happen?
After this automated dock how many tents went up on the streets.
My dad works in the long Beach ports
So what will happen if they turn off the robo work force?
Can anyone tell me the company name that supply such equipment ?
Cavotec is one
Kalmar and ABB and Huawei
I feel bad for the longshoremen
No wonder why they are striking !!!
I see this as a good thing
Cut cost
Means our items will cost less
Go ai and robotics
Those will be the jobs of the future.
I saw these in battlefield 2042 and thought i would research them abit.
Its time ILWU gets out of the ports of LA & LB im a truck driver working at these ports and we get treated like shit by these lazy arrogant union dock workers!!!! So i support 100% automation!!!! It can take up to 9 hrs just to get one load out of the port and dealing with lazy dockworkers, at LBCT which is automated it only takes 30 mins to terminate the empty container and get the loaded one out!!! Its time for a change and 100% automation is the future!!!!!
China already has 7 fully automated ports we will get crushed if we don't get with the times
You saying that now Mr truck driver until y’all accident prone asses started getting laid off cause companies go to automated trucking
Because y’all cost insurance companies billions in freight loss and vehicle damage and total losses
Remember everything comes down hill so when the docks are fully automated they gone find a way to get rid of yo ass to
@@fastluck1348 stay mad 😭 longshoremens time is coming!
How much do longshoremen make an hour?
How come the news story doesn't mention the human impact, the hundreds of family breadwinners who will lose their jobs? Or the trickle down effect on the port community businesses losing all the income from those families? Or that humans doing the same work are almost twice as productive? Or that humans continue to work even in adverse weather conditions? Or that humans can't be hacked and hijacked, or cyber ransomed like one of the major shipping companies was in 2017?
SHHHHH!!!! You are exposing the narrative of destroying the middle class!!
Well if a machine can work 24/7 and work during any weather (sorry, but nothing short of a hurricane can stop a machine from knowing where it needs to go) then all your "productivity" as a human goes out the window in favor of saving money. If a machine only saves the company 5% now, with a clear path toward more money being saved with AI advancements, then it is guaranteed they will make that investment.
Where are your sources for the differences in productivity?
We put far too much trust in a computers ability while forgetting it's vulnerability.
Theyve been paid enough for a lonnnng time. Welcome to 2023!😂
ANDREW YANG SAVE US!
Yes, save us from automation that has always existed.
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I guess the robots are lashing the cargo as well on the ships 😂🤣 there always going to need people.
Someone somewhere is working out how to remove every person involved. No doubt a drone is flying ropes around or some craziness
Yea true but hey they use robots in manufacturing plants and they still have people working on them and on production lines and stuff could be the same case as this. People are going to need to fix and maintain theses machines specially if there going to be running 24-7 a robot is just a machine a machine that needs to be maintained and worked on and watched robots should make are jobs easier machines are always going to need a person to operate them.
Anyone else notice that this guy walks in at 00:42... without shoes, only with gray socks on his feet???
Dude, did you forget to turn on the "Shoes Selector Robot" when you dressed up for this interview XD?
He slides across the floor we all do it 🤣🤣
A lot of homes I’ve been in especially drs or professors don’t want you to wear shoes on their premise. It keeps a lot of the dirt that your shoes track in off the floor.
What about people who need to feed there families
their. They better pick a skill a machine cant do. Truck drivers might want to invest in trade school.
There still will always be a demand for truck drivers to get it from the port to the consumer, or if that is not desirable vocation, maybe build more cargo rail lines to transition jobs to construction and railroad management
@Daniel P No, Ai can do that
Look up Andrew Yang
"O"tonomous and Quay???
Ouch.
A dolphin is a post sunk into the harbour!
Saw it LOGAN , fully automated truck drivers.
There will never be a fully automated truck driver on the highway.
@@lotto5742 Even partially automated trucks will have a deleterious effect. Autonomous trucks will not have to stop at hotels, grocery stores, and other businesses that human truck drivers usually stop at and support.
Well that was an abrupt ending
I should start an automation consulting co…
Quay is pronounced "key".
You gotta remember the government is talking a huge loss on this to.
Couldn't be more wrong. All imported cargo is taxed as it leaves the ship by the federal government. This port is a gold mine for the federal government and the State of California gets a nice cut too. This is part of the reason why the State of California is the 3rd largest economy on the planet.
It takes of minimum of 3,hours just to get a load on these ports.Since Automated only takes 30 minutes or less to drop and pick up a load.
That’s true they only see from their point of view we truckers are the ones who suffer the most waiting hours in lines up to 8-9hrs for one load and automated only takes 30mins!! So i support automation
Bobby so if i have to wait a minimum of 4hrs for a load waiting on human operated crane explain to me how do they do “much more”
Bobby ports of Long Beach and Los Ángeles California they are a complete nightmare maybe ports in Canada are better managed
Bobby automation is fast in this area
@@Lacheyenona72 That's until autonomous trucks hit the road an the need for you truckers is eliminated as well, because you must realize what really should be common sense. Automation starts at the ports, then it moves on to the only thing left once that's finished, the unruly truckers. Once automation is perfected, huge corporations will come in and start buying freight companies and won't have any issues investing in fleets of automated trucks within the blink of an eye you'll be passing by them looking and they'll be lined up in lots waiting to take your job.
One computer failure and we're all f#$%ed🙄
Yep, who needs people with jobs to buy our products?
Oh, we all do! D’Oh!
Who says there will be less jobs because of this?
Kway walls? Quay is pronounced "key."
Always gonna need mechanic fixing the robots when the break down
Mechanic?? You mean Computer Engineer??
So much for trucking school
Isn’t it great! Just look at all those jobs humans no longer have!
So slow productivity wise.
Wish these came to Vancouver to replace the entitled employees that’s dragging things on and won’t accept a deal.
we still need people machines break down
Krane operator $250,000.00 a year
@@CAVIR100 lmao
Look at all the homeless in L A today??
My dad would turn over in his grave ,25 year ILWU 13.
They are called RJB robots
Looks expensive
Big up front charges but very little insurance for a time.
All them salty overpaid Longshore workers about to get swallowed up by automation.
But wut if the truck falls in the water
Automation is unavoidable. The govt needs to be ready. Every cargo container handled by a robot should be charged a very small tax, and that money should be used for job training etc etc.
No more golden goose
Sooo no more 2 hour lunches
It seems to me the local union got screwed by the union leadership again!!! They need to fired or quit the union cause their membership dues are keeping the union leadership with a job!!!
if the members loose their jobs the union leaders loose their income
There goes our jobs
Yeah, it's "cool" seeing automation put more people out of work?
Automation sounds wonderful - until it's YOUR turn to be replaced by AI. Truckers who think it is great to get rid of longshoreman haven't thought this through - how long do truckers have before trucking is fully automated? Waiters, bank tellers, even doctors and surgeons - all replaceable.
It’s coming
Whether we like it or not, it’s coming. What we need is a progressive government and leadership that understands and prepares for that world, such as starting to discuss universal basic income, etc.
If i still have a job i will embrace it. Many people get displaced because of automation and, how many find comperable employment or even training to stay gainfully employed?
THEY TUUK UUR JUUUUB!!!
I can’t wait until it’s fully automated. I don’t feel sorry for the workers at all
So many jobs created by these systems and safety increased ten-fold. Humans aren't even allowed on the ground floor anymore or the robots all shut down as it's a safety violation. The old way was a death trap. Just like people during the industrial revolution, these people can sign up for training to work with or on these machines.
Automation could mean end of hundreds or even thousands of jobs
Where’s Frank Sobotka when you need him…
All the jobs gone but does shipping get cheaper ? Nope ..... just more profitable for the company
Automation is provided by Huawei.
What about the thousands of human beings jobs that will be lost behind this technology that keeps coming yeah it sounds good but a man or woman supporting their families sounds even better to me
China already has 7 huge fully automated ports we will get crushed if we don't get with the times
Ooo Job Terminator 1000s models!!... robots dont pay taxes...
Corporations will always look to cut high pay low skill jobs. They call it efficiency.
It is efficiency. If you have unions that bully employers into paying more than workers are worth, that is inefficiency. Maybe these guys should stop acting like a cartel and they might be able to retain their jobs.
@@izdatsumcp it still wouldn't have mattered but with a union they have more say
@@izdatsumcp Minimum wage in the US is only what? 7.50 8 bucks? Did that stop corporations from sending jobs to China so they can pay Chinese workers $250 a month vs $250 a week here? An American union telling a foreign company worth 50 Billion dollars we will only work for a livable wage is hardly bullying and has nothing to do with automation. They are doing what most corporations do coming up with ways to cut costs and be greedy. People like you may think longshoreman are overpaid until you hear the horror stories about the dangers of the job and get woke to the fact that most longshoreman actually don't make as much you may think based on what you read in misinformed news articles..
@@ybe87 Lots of things are pretty wrong here.
Sending jobs to China is silly because anything people consume must be paid for with production. Anything that is imported, therefore, is paid for with production. Trade, on net, cannot send jobs overseas.
The argument that the Chinese are paid less and so they are more competitive is wrong too. They might have lower wages but Americans are also more productive. Also, Chinese are more productive in everything (as are lots of other countries): by rights, literally every job should go overseas. That obviously doesn't happen so your theory of wages' impact on jobs going overseas is wrong.
A living wage is an arbitrary concept. Lots of people lived on a lot less in the past and, in the future, will live on a lot more. The concept has no meaning as people's expectations change.
Unions are bullies but let's talk about automation. Yes, automation comes anyway but unions and things like minimum wage can precipitate it. And, no, automation is not corporations being greedy: cost cutting is what leads to a better standard of living for us all.
I don't particularly have an opinion on longshoremen - I just have an opinion on unions. A union's entire purpose is to push wages above market rate.
Less jobs, more people. More money in the pocket of the owners. Rich get richer. Automation will give too much power to the rich. Hopefully govermant has plan.
Autonomous vehicles and automated systems don’t strike
This eliminates the assholes that work there good
Shameful how people applauding at all these jobs getting cut due to automation, one must realize that your degree won’t make you immune to this , soon they’ll replace surgeons, teachers, bankers, dentists etc... you’re better off saving and starting your own business before it’s too late
One man operating an excavator takes away the jobs of a few dozen men using shovels, are you going to complain about that?
Check out Andrew Yang. Running for president on UBI to help everyone affected and help them transition into the new economy
My first job and my current job within a 30 year time period have both succumbed to automation.
@@blondie7240 this isn’t the 1800s.
Surgery is not that easy to replace yet it has a lot of robotics already established in the operating theater for 20 years. Bank tellers were turned into ATM servicing worker 20 years ago. They don't get replaced, they got retrained to embrace the change. The problem is the US makes it hyper expensive to learn a new job skill set and the education institution do not provide graduates with the skill sets key industries are screaming for. The disconnect between education and industries is very severe in this country compared to northern Europe. Most people do not have what it takes to start up and sustain their own business otherwise everyone would be doing it.
How can people think that this is a good idea when taking humans' jobs away? Where is human right doing about it, they should sop automation right now.
Slowest fkn port ever, ...of all time. Screw the customers, rite. This is the big replacement so fkn inefficient.
@Robert I don't know anything, first hand expirence don't mean shit in fakeworld.
And more Americans out of work more government control but now people don’t care long as government gives them money drive around USA
Workers are their own worst enemy. Like it or not capitalism is based on a society having a working class that are clearly above poor but clearly below middle class. The unions demand wages and benefits that raise their members to middle class. The capitalists then invest in technology to eliminate those jobs that have become too expensive. It's a vicious circle. Everyone wants more pie. Everyone also wants lower prices. No economic system can provide both. Technology wins every time because it is more efficient than workers. It may break and eventually it will require maintenance but it never strikes for higher wages or more benefits and it never does a shitty job to get even when it doesn't get them.
Really awesome, creates opportunities for others with different skill sets! The only thing that never changes is change
@German Ninja my experience at ports, it’ll take allot more to change before human skills are not required. There’s allot of jobs that require humans that just aren’t being filled
As a longshoreman, fuck you. From the bottom of my heart. This is how I feed my family.
Automation is going to happen
Andrew Yang 2020 people. Vote!
I think you’re all forgetting the amount of job losses because of automation. This is terrible.
China has ports 100% automated, the US is way behind, China has autonomous taxi's too.
THEY TOOK OR JEBS!!! 🤬
The unions are not able to adapt to the market. Mechanization will take over sooner at the expense of union workers.
These machines are slow , also people lose jobs . Auckland tried this and it was a complete failure.
Not that slow when you consider these machines can run 24/7, take no breaks, lunches or get tired.
@@Jimmyxsx Our ports run 24/7 and these machines breakdown all the time . Most ports run diesel mechanics, electricians 24/7 to maintain crans and straddles etc The main benefit of these machiness is it majes it cheaper to move boxes. Though putting people out of jobs is not a good thing.
This is good last port unions brought this on themselves
I work at this port, what is commonly looked over is the jobs it creates on the tech side and the increase in terminal safety is considerable the more automation that is in place. People are injured and killed on the terminal often due to equipment accidents (faulty/user error).
Hey man you're getting in the way of the grifters who just want to complain about job loss they don't want solutions. Keep your talk about re-educating them to adapt to the technology and learn to work on/with them, it's not like that's been done since the beginning of the industrial revolution...oh wait
The tech side? What ratings do you guys have that are tech related trained in house?
2 years later, that one guy who maintained the robot ai got covid and the entire system malfunctioned...
That would not be a technology issue, but a leadership issue.
@@carlosquiroz7819 There lied the point.
If these unions weren’t so hard to get into them everyone would be behind it. People fail to realize that they unions are the worse. It’s only a referral position only. If you don’t know anyone or kids ass you will never get into the union
@ShawnPower please stop lying. These job applications have been administered by the EDD for decades.
Amy> it was the same for Delphi and when it comes to referrals only.. they incredibly hard to fire bad workers , people got lazy because the Union forces laziness. Same thing for unions at grocery stores
No it's true. In savannah you can apply for Georgia ports authority which is non union. But in order to be am ILA member which is union will take a village if you don't have family to get u in and work you constantly.
They say we need to embrace automation. That's OK, but when are you going to start telling people to stop having babies that when they grow up will not have a job because of automation. College ain't gonna save you if there are no jobs.
Mr Trump Mr Trump o where o where are these jobs you said, o where o where are those jobs you said, gm left
You're taking bread off people's table horrible
. How are these workers are supposed to support their family in this day and age
One man operating an excavator takes away the jobs of a few dozen men using shovels, are you going to complain about that?
Check out UBI as a way to support those who lost their jobs and make sure they can live with dignity and feed their family. Yang2020
LAzy fuckers are taking our time aswell! They are doing it to them self for being sooo fucken lazy! I dont know if you work in the ports or have you ever been to one?
Edwin Reyes
Whatever what is happening at the LB ports isn’t working. They need to speed it up, hire more workers, whatever it is. It’s taking too damn long to manage
The only reason why a company would switch to full automation is to make higher profits!! We do not need to "embrace" this change. Companies will try to convince tbe General public that there would be less emissions. If they want to go green, these companies should have vehicles on the docks that run on electricity only with humans running them. These companies run on greed and maximizing profits!
And the problem is that a lot of these people that work at these port, have nothing more than a high school education.
So What's your point? You're blaming people who didn't waste their time on a worthless college degree. Don't throw shame on trade skilled workers that make six figures without a college degree
I bet you don't even have one.
Unfortunately, college isn't going to make things better. If everyone goes to college, then workers with college degrees become more common, and therefore the value of a worker with a college degree decreases. We are already seeing this happen today, as only 27% of college graduates have a job related to their field of study, and 44% of college grads have a job that does not require a college degree. In addition to this, the majority of these people take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt that will take decades to pay back. If more people start going to college, this will only get worse.
@reshi p Problem is this is not true. Low key I think it was the corporations that put that false narrative out there. Most longshoreman don't make 6 figures at all and the one's that do generally put in over 15+ years already doing back breaking work and still work day an night an let me tell you, a lot of these guys can't even walk upright. You have easy days you have hard days, but its def not a do nothing job, I've seen people hear about this longshoreman thing, try it out, an after 1 hard day their whole prospective and respect for the job changes and most realize this ain't the job for them and they def wouldn't be making 6 figures or even high 5 figs anytime soon doing this...
That’s even if they have a high school education.
The ports always struggled with constant slowdowns from way overpaid cry babies. Good riddance. They deserved this.
Lol So Slow...I bet the Production level and numbers are way down
Wow!!! Revolutionary🎉🎉🎉 There is no need for humans to work. Watch out to those who take their jobs for granted. Those who have major attitude problems, your time is soon over.
Sky net
I don't like the idea of automation taking someones job. But in this case I can see it being necessary since the corrupt unions have bottlenecked the ports for decades.
exactly
Govt can take over other countries and topple nations but can’t take over a union lol 😂
Yeah automation seem like a good idea until the foreign entities start hacking into it.. then they'll be second guessing this whole automation thing and the govt will have to start getting involved.
Im no engineer, but what if you just put these on rails (less fiction, less power required) powered them by electricitic rail, requiring less maintenance requiring less weight with only motors being moved and not an engine and fuel tank. Solar power, wind, with a hydrogen fuel cell back up to power it all. Have the AI control them by automating the rail switches.... 😐 seems like it would cut down maintenance cost and overall energy consumption.... yet again, I'm not an engineer, just a thought. 🤔
How about I figure a way to have automation take your job
They need more freedom of traversal. It's not fixed point to point like rail
We really need to evaluate whether we want an economy that is for US, or for an elite few. These terminals have always been VERY PROFITABLE, EVEN WHILE PAYING WORKERS A DECEBT WAGE AND BENEFITS. This isn’t about efficiency, human manned terminals are 10x more productive than automated...it’s about greed, pure and simple.
Stop automation don’t let it in to your work place the computers will fix them selfs
Unless you plan a worldwide ban on them the companies or countries who don't adopt automation will be the losers when competing against the ones who do
One man operating an excavator takes away the jobs of a few dozen men using shovels, are you going to complain about that?
Why not just let automation take place, and pass the wealth gained from automation back to everyday people? That way they can do things like work for charity organizations instead of having to stand behind a counter or drive a truck all day.
@@blondie7240 bro your in every comment you need to relax.
@@kevinalexandrov3959 I'm also in your mom right now, relax