Why U.S. Ports Are Some Of The Least Efficient In The World
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- The Port of Los Angeles, the busiest port in North America, saw record volume in 2021. Imports including furniture, car parts and apparel surged to a record 5.5 million TEU's in 2021, a 13% increase from the previous high in 2018. A TEU or twenty-foot equivalent unit is the industry standard to measure cargo capacity for ships and terminals. One 20 ft container can hold about 400 flat-screen TVs. But along with that volume came an array of headwinds impacting everyone from retail stores and large manufacturers to portside communities.
As of February 4, 2022 there was a backlog of over 90 container ships drifting, slow steaming or waiting outside the Port of Los Angeles. At the same time there were almost 69,000 empty containers at the port’s terminals and off-dock depots.
Watch the video above to find out what's behind the congestion at the U.S. ports.
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Why U.S. Ports Are Some Of The Least Efficient In The World
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THERE IS NOT A TRUCKER SHORTAGE. Trucking companies treat their people so poorly, pay so poorly, "train" so poorly, and leave all of the responsibility on those drivers that more than half of all drivers quit within 1 year.
hahaha come to China and look at what happen..!!
Yep. ...
Exactly. That is on reason why truckers should unionize and port workers should not.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
Every morning on my way to the coal plant in Monroe Michigan I pass a rest stop with at least 80+ semis in it.and at least 20 parked on the side of the highway because the parking lot was full so no there's no shortage of truck drivers
I feel that a expansion of railroads would help alleviate some of the burden by cutting down on trucks needed
EDIT: no I’m not suggesting that trains go to your local Walmart or Dennys. I’m referring to long haul trips being expanded. They should travel long distances to offload at train stations then transfer to trucks for short hauling distances. They already do this. I’m just saying it should be expanded.
I’ve heard that argument for years.
Seems logical to me.
Rail it all out to Riverside or San Bernardino somewhere, where there’s a signatory trucking-transfer area.
It’s much easier for trucks to get in and out of Devore, or Beaumont or something, than Long Beach.
Plus, you virtually eliminate long-haul trucking from the entire Los Angeles metropolitan area.
Plus…apparently loading one 200-container train is much faster than loading 200 single-container trucks.
good idea, doesnt work. you cant load up a walmart with a railroad car u need trucks
@@irkiIIer Not from quayside to every distro center though, especially ones in some other state. Dropping off in a closer railyard would ease congestion and allow local truckers to do shorter trips more frequently.
@@irkiIIer true, but it would help for long distance travel before being transferred to a truck
Funny enough I saw CNBC video on here recently talking about US freight rail.
I went into La port to pick up a 40’ HC of auto parts and took it to Lexington, KY. It took nearly the entire day to get in and out of the port. I have a TWIC but don’t go into that port very often so like most all ports their systems of doing things can be different and confusing. If you get a trouble ticket it gets difficult knowing where to go. Port workers tend to be not very helpful or friendly and their work hours are so restrictive. If you are only open to trucks from 8-4 then everyone has to cram in during that short window. I’ll never go into any west coast ports again. Not worth the time. The southeast ports are much easier to deal with.
Wow, so it sounds like the bottleneck is that the port is only open to trucks from 8am-4pm? That's crazy; it sounds so simple to solve: just keep the port open 24/7 to reduce the traffic jam and spread out the trucks coming into the port, right?
Why don't the ports simply stay open 24 hours to allow smoother traffic of trucks? Especially when there are hundreds of container ships anchored off port waiting to offload their cargo...
Like, even a 5-year old could see how easy this problem is to solve.
Hmm I'm a Longshore dock worker up north from California (hate that state). What I can tell you is yes the port decides to only work from 8am to 4:45pm(they don't let trucks in after a certain time to make sure they get unloaded). The longshoremen work 3 shifts a day-24/7 with only a short break(depending on job) between shifts. For some reason the port doesn't work it's own rail yard after 5....but the ships do. I have to say though the amount of cargo coming from overseas has increased dramatically since online shopping has opened even more foreign goods to be offered easily from places like Amazon.
I thought the news reported that LA port recently changed to 24/7 hours but were not used much because the rest of the supply chain also has to adjust.
Probably, we don't usually talk intraport. So if they did, A+. But for whatever reason traditionally they haven't and if they do now it'll take a while for everyone to adjust accordingly. What's the old saying, Rome wasn't built in a day. I find most places that report either don't do their do diligence or don't want to talk about what's really wrong. Like no one's talking about how when covid started the feds...along with any other state run institution, dumped tons(probably hundreds or more in cali)of people. I couldn't get a title fixed after my daughters car got hit because there was no one working the inspection facility for months...in a big town, not a small municipality. Same goes for the federal inspectors that have to go out to the boats and verify ship manifests for cargo and crew. They were undermanned before covid down there. Add infection from overseas and local people/family, etc. Plus added cargo shipments, then trucker migration (independent truckers going elsewhere to make money)...even local trucking companies having to look for better ways to do business...it all adds up and creates a huge problem. That's why(other than cross country shipping..but even then)Amazon does their own shipping in country 90%(ish) of the time. They try not to rely on outside shippers who may have issues. Heck up here Walmart had 53' containers stuffed(cuz they gotta maximize their shipping freight cost) but did so without 53' chassis to ship them...then couldn't get them. You don't want to know how much that cost to have them sitting for months, not a week or 3 days....months. bet they write it all off but still, ouch. Bet the port LOVED THAT!
Democratic policies ?
The robots don't take a 45-minute coffee break and 90-minute lunch breaks, in an 8 hour period. That's the work schedule in Oakland.
you fogot the poop break 😀
What about their 2-3 smoke breaks and locking out independent truckers.
Source?
the main problem is the need to expand infrastructure to the port itself, california has always directed all traffic to just one giant port in los angeles instead of spreading the port all along all of it's coast
Nothing wrong with centralizing logistics.
I mean we are talking about Americans here. Not the brightest of the bunch. They even made CardiB "female of the year" so yeah
@@John-ld8ej
Not too mention they don't want those undocumented immigrants to work at the ports despite them willing to take the overnight shifts and supporting labor unions.
Very few people would be in favour of turning their waterfront into a dirty noisy industry
@@TheBooban until it fails. 😐😅
OMG 😱
As an independent trucker, we desperately need automation. The ILWU are a punch of TURTLES 🐢. While they get to sleep in their beds at home with their families, we truckers have to get up really early, leaving our families, to get in long lines waiting before the Ports open in the morning 7am. When the ILWU members get to work, supposedly at 7am, they don’t start work until 8am, or later. Then they take their 1st break around 9:45am to 10:30am; lunch break around 11:45am to 1:15pm; last break around 2:45pm to 3:30pm; and finally work stoppage around 4:30pm. Night shift won’t begin till 6pm. So the all the Ports with ILWU are totally broken and inefficient. Where’s the productivity when they all MILK THE COWS to the very last drops. While the independent truckers sit idling by waiting for loads hours on ends. We need the Federal government oversight board to get involved. Please help us truckers out. We need help. Thanks 🙏.
Plenty of guys willing to drive trucks but not many want to work the ports.
You’ll do anything to screw over your fellow citizen just to save a nickel on your imported crap, won’t you?
Dont worry buddy self driven trucks are coming to replace you crybaby!
Unions don't want extended work hours, don't wanna work on weekends, you need security clearance to get in the Port, wait times = less money etc etc. What i see what's going to happen in the future is, eventually either federal or state gov or both, will construct another port somewhere in Cali fully automated taking advantage of all technology available in the market to run the Port just to move things quickly and efficient... we shall see 👋👋
@@alexalvarez6711 Good luck with self driving/delivery trucks. I hope you drive your family next to it when you see one. Let me know how you feel about that.
This have been happening for years.
The pandemic just showed how inefficient the ports are.
I've heard this from maritime port workers also.
And how would you change it mr Einstein?
@@BillyBob-op6lg Oh yeah, good answer.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
@@ricardoxavier827 yah your not understanding the problem. It’s not only getting the stuff here. But getting it onto trucks and wherever they need to go. Along with your idea. You would need a lot more truckers doing ports, less restrictive port regulations for truckers, even at if at least temporary, and the ports need to stop taking 2 hour lunches 3 times a day, but that’s unions for ya. They even close for like 2 hrs a day and kick all truckers out regardless of how close they are to getting the load. Closing for just 2 hrs seems ridiculous especially while this supply problem is going on.
Summed up in a nutshell, US port workers don't work 24/7 shifts
strange how EU ports are so much more automated, while they have very large and powerfull unions too!
I think it mostly has to do with how the unions are organised.
In the EU most unions are not job specific.
So when automation might be a downside for dockworkers, it can be a benefit for another group of workers, so the union won't oppose automation.
There is no shortage of truck drivers. It's a shortage on pay for these loads, given the wait time. Pay more and more drivers will haul containers. Also the ports can start accepting empty containers so drivers can use that trailer to grab another container. Problem solved 🤷🏽♂️
only if the port has room or ships to send them on. as it is, the ports have too much trying to come in, and much trying to go out. at the same time. they have started storing containers of port until they can get them on outbound ships. but thats hard to do in almost all locations were ports are, because ports have historically been high concentration areas
You need more port infrastructures plus fully automated cranes or even trucks inside the ports.
But there is demographically a shortage
Customers need to pay higher prices then
In my country people'll probably say: "But your job isn't difficult"
Here in Brazil, the government passed a new cabotage law last year encouraging maritime transport to reduce the dependence on roads in our logistics. Some ports have been modernized in the last decade with many terminals being privatized.
Singapore will also be able to reduce the reliance on roads for logistics as it merges its 3-4 ports into 1 bigger one, removing the need for container trucks to ship containers between ports if the ships they've to be transshipped between call at different ports. Soon after neighbouring Malaysia voted in a new government in 2018 together with its less Singapore-friendly PM _Mahathir Mohammad_ , it's city of _Johor Bahru_ (the nearest one to Singapore) perhaps was trying to frustrate our new port's ambitions by extending it's own port's sea boundaries to overlap with that of our new port
I shudder to think how the US will look in 10 or 15 yrs. the level of neglect and dysfunction is truly mind boggling
Yeah, it's pretty scary. The country seems increasingly dysfunctional.
@@safe-keeper1042 Secession is one possibility.
@Ulysses Grant It's only a matter of time Texas would declare independent.
All you gotta do 8s walk a whole day around a town or city and witness for yourself the levelnof neglect to the infrastructure
@@j.m.5995 China infrastructure
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Fighting automation keeps people doing tedious and repetitive work. The unions should be guiding the transition rather than blocking it.
Unions just want their money at the end of the day. In the absence of government oversight, though, it’s all the protection one has for a safe working environment. Plus, skilled workers aren’t a given in the US like in Europe.
The US needs to make Community College the norm instead of high school, i.e. graduating at 16 then testing into a local community college to learn a trade.
@Killer Miser Then they should update their fee structure to represent percentage of post-tax income rather than fixed subscription. That incentivizes the union to pursue up-skilling of all of its members and fighting for what should also mean appropriately higher pay. Everyone should win. The business operates more efficiently and can process more trade, upping profit volume. The workers are better looked after by their union and where able, are doing more interesting work and taking home more pay. The Union similarly prospers from its [hopefully] happier and better paid members.
guiding the transition to automation? you kidding me? unions like all government agencies and relgious institutions, only want to expand, expand, and expand. they won't accept loss of man power as it means less power for them. they won't magically take a "holistic" view of the general economy and decide to act like a good agent helping the economy. those institutions are always self serving. they dont care about the economy as a whole.
@@Cumulo9 lol, and the rich corporations and billionaires care? So you think they should have all the power and no unions to challenge them?
8:43 whats wrong you. They are not fighting. Just be humane and re skill them. Wtf is wrong with that?
One of my friends works for Evergreen Marine Company in Taiwan got the bonus equals to 40 months of his salaries at the end of 2021.
06:50 let me stop you right there, Gene Seroka. Unlike the ports, which for years and decades had bankers' hours, with a one-hour lunch where everything stops, at least at the truck gates, warehouses mostly had double shifts for years.
And even if they only had one shift, there usually is a security guard present that makes it possible to drop off a trailer
. I am calling bulls___t on your narrative.
He said they would open more, but nobody wanted it and the truckers missed their times.
I agree, they're not telling the whole truth and spinning it to look like there's nothing they can do. The most advanced Country on earth with the highest consumption should have partially automated ports instead of a stone-age process that is controlled by Unions.
@@HermannTheGreat Unions don't control much of anything in the US especially if it is something which is extremely profitable like ports. I am quite certain that if the shipping companies and port authorities and businesses like Amazon had the complete control which they seek than ships, ports, trucks, trains, and planes would all be fully automated and the savings created by doing so would be passed onto the consumer, immediately after 95% of them had already been "rewarded" to CEOs and VPs and major shareholders..
@@TheBooban nice lie and bull crap
@@dpeasehead wrong. its the unions that made the ports mess
Not sure if I'm missing something... but if the Port of LA is the biggest in US and handling 10million TEUs is a challenge they can't solve, how is it the Port of Singapore can handle 37.5million TEUs in the same period?
Automation
we're really inefficient
@@ozyozman if you think automation is more efficient you are obviously not in this industry. if you were to do some actually research instead of believing this brainwashed one sided media propaganda you would see that automation (in the port of LA/LB ) is down more than 35% . automation is not as efficient as a longshoreman and all of our skilled labor working hard everyday to make sure this country has what it needs.and no one else talks about the power it would take to run a fully automated terminal . the city of LB couldn't even handle the one terminal they have there let alone adding one more at Hanjin even if Hanjin was to build a new power grid and fully fund it . it wouldn't work.
@@frickyou5902 The scoreboard says otherwise when you compare automated and non automated.
@@frickyou5902 it probably can be done ai plus advancements in tech will pave the way
An interesting news piece: We are experiencing the same thing here in the port of Montreal, of course on a smaller scale. What is common is a resistance in automation and new technical procedures. The Quebec gov and city gov have been promising private roads and direct links to highways but this has not happened yet. Much of what is coming in is from Europe for us, Ontario and the rest of Canada, also a portion of the north eastern USA. Ports just like airports should be opened 24/7 with 3 X 8 hour shift, and like most factories/industrials here do, work on rotation. But should also have mandatory days where they close like xmas, new years.
The word efficiency is a word you hardly hear any US worker would say. You'd almost always hear them say "work smarter not harder". 99.9999999999% of the time they think they're smart but not efficient. When I worked for an American company with a large presence in Germany. US HQ executives couldn't understand why the Germans are 3x faster than their US counterparts. One German said "Work more efficiently. Mind you they also go on vacation 6 weeks per year and not more than 8-9 hours a day. US side works at least 10hrs and rarely goes on vacation.
well its lot easier to do that in Germany when you find out that almost all German companies have boards that have representatives from workers, and they can point out things that management cant see, cause they dint do that work (and probably never have)
If you're 3x more efficient in the 46 weeks a year that you're at work you can work shorter hours, have the vacation and still be more productive overall than your American counterpart.
Work smarter is just another way of saying more efficient it allows you to complete the same job in less time with less physical exertion. If you aren't accomplishing this you are not working smarter.
Was also figuring out how efficient workers in Germany were in order for 1 of their labour unions ( IG _Metall_ for Porsche) to demand 32h work weeks during a strike last time
Automation and efficiency should be promoted when appropriate - not avoided for the sake of keeping jobs.
Of course, unless it's your highly skilled job that gets automated.
@@thomasridley8675 If a highly skilled job that person just becomes an artisan like with a bakery.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
@@thomasridley8675 if it gets automated, it gets automated. High skill low skill makes no difference. Radiologists making half a million a year are also at risk of automation.
@@MRTY323
So, who is going to pay for retraining all the workers lost too automation ?
And where did this half a million number come from ?
The flooding in BC also destroyed a key railway in November. This placed one of the major routes into the continent out of action for a few weeks.
the flooding also wipe out the major highways
@@ReXox35 what does that have to do with flooding?
Great editing must be appreciated! 👍👍
Every single person waiting on an appliance order needs to watch this video instead of getting mad at a customer service agent over uncontrollable delays. The amount of time I spend explaining shipping delays due to the pandemic, just to hear "but what does that have to do with my order?" is absolutely stunning.
@@David-ki2dl
You’re the caller they’re talking about. 💀💀💀
@@David-ki2dl They have been and there is a service sector labor shortage as a result.
Offload the ships directly to train. Run the trains 50 or more miles inland to a real yard. Have multiple yards.
No trucks at the port. Only at inland yards.
Inland yards can reload rail cars for further shipments if not by truck.
Most companies have a just-in-time inventory system. It's extremely efficient and cost effective. However due to the tight turn around times there is VERY little room for error in the supply chain. The slightest disruption will through everything out of whack which can cause shortages and other issues
The recent slow down in the supply chain should prove the just-in-time inventory is not efficient. It's is cost effective which is why large corproations adopted the policy.
Not only do they save money by not having to stock an inventory but they save money on inventory taxes. I know I had to pay a 17% inventory tax when I had my own business.
Think many things in life have a general trade-off between efficiency & reliability
i had no idea ships are called ships on the Pacific and boats on the Atlantic
@Ninja Turtle: LOL! I noticed that too. My advice: do NOT call any large ocean going vessel "a boat" in front of the captain and crew unless you plan to finish your trip as captain of one of the life boats.
When ships are on the Great Lakes they are referred to as freighters.
As an ex OTR company driver I can only speak for my own experience with trucking companies. Low pay for the amount of work put in, forced loads or no time at home, coerced into running illegally or face monetary penalties or rejected home time requests, no recompensation for toll roads, little to no personal insurance coverage, and impossible loads and load times. Legislation against truckers isn't the solution, how about doing something about trucking companies, shippers and receivers so that truckers want to keep doing their jobs?
Don't run OTR. I quit OTR thirty years ago. The only time I do OTR is out and back.
@@shelbynamels973 I'm a local hauler now, so OTR is a thing of my own past as well. Hourly pays better than miles by a long ways, and the benefits are a helluva lot better. If OTR trucking companies and their clients wouldn't treat truckers like disposable commodities, though, they might be able to keep good drivers instead of burning them to the ground. Then maybe drivers like me would go back to OTR.
@@unkleturpis9253 Why are you paying tolls as a company driver ?
Every day we find out that America is least efficient in another thing.. I guess cracks can no longer be hidden, What happened US?
Lobbying by unions or big corporations for their own politicians
We let right wingers take over and are suffering the predictable results of such folly.
@@TommyJonesProductions What does that have to do with California? New York? New Jersey?
Workers have realized there is more to life than being exploited for corporate profits. Why is efficiency the end all be all? If we brought back slavery and removed all safety regulations we'd be as efficient as China. But at what cost?
@@jamesgardner2101 Are those states not on the USA? Do federal laws not apply? Are you unaware of how government works?
Blew my mind when I found out they weren't 24/7 to begin with. I guess I understand if there are noise/pollution/etc ordinances, but then maybe they shouldn't be situated in areas where those things are a concern.
and they don't run 24/7 during a huge supply crunch because of unions
@@davidanalyst671 - Plenty of union shops run 24-7, GM, Ford, Chrysler, McDonnel-Douglass, Boeing, etc.
Must be another reason.
railroads are most of the time built before towns and cities but people still complain about the noise docks are probably the same just built far enough from the town so nobody cared and then someone thought building directly next to the dock was a good idea
@MMO Archives We'll never let that happen. We love our beaches and pristine natural landscape all up and down our beautiful coast line. Commercial development is done in Californa, thank you.
Maybe if US actually made some consumer products the ports wouldn't be so crowded.
In Mark Levinson's _The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger,_ he tells about how the unions in New York City, San Francisco, and London fought against container shipping. So the shipping simply moved to Newark, Oakland, and Felixstowe, and the old ports just died.
So you are saying unions are the problem?
@@organizedchaos4559 absolutely.. look at China!! they did tremendous success in economy.
Tell me more
The rest of the World’s ports have fast turnarounds with Unions involved.....unions aren’t the problem. The more efficient you are the more work gets done. None of these ‘Ladies Hours’. 24/7 is the only way to go. Turnarounds vary I know but 16/18 hours for some or as much as 2-3 days for others.
they didn't die, they just disappeared like Jimmy Hoffa
In 1999 I asked then LA Port Commissioner about automation. He said good luck with the Longshoreman…………
5:39 There are 2 Wilmingtons on east coast, is it correct?
Unions don't want extended work hours, don't wanna work on weekends, you need security clearance to get in the Port, wait times = less money etc etc. What i see what's going to happen in the future is, eventually either federal or state gov or both, will construct another port somewhere in Cali fully automated taking advantage of all technology available in the market to run the Port just to move things quickly and efficient... we shall see 👋👋
Ports or fed owned already and leased. The fed is not interested in owning ports. Your idea has been theorized for 30+ years and never happened
The unions have too much political power and the politicians are too self interested to challenge them.
@@nunyabidness3075 I mean if corporations treated the workers right or the government passed better wage and worker protections unions wouldn’t be needed…
Lol, the problem is not the union's fault for fighting for basic worker's rights. If the ports are understaffed to work 24/7 then the company should hire more people and pay extra for them to work on weekends and overnight. Workers aren't slaves and smart are those to organize themselves in unions to avoid the treatment Amazon warehouse workers endure.
@@brianholloway6205 I think unions will always be needed if in no other form, just as a threat. There’s always bad characters around. Government worker protections are mostly bad in my opinion. Anything that adds friction and risk to the relationship will mostly come at employee expense. Economists have proved this, politicians and bureaucrats should know it, but the incentive is for government to put bad policy in place to take credit and pad government payrolls.
Unions oppose automation that might improve performance of the ports. Pretty much par for the course in every unionized industry.
Wrong
@@uhohhotdog I see a lot of thought went into that response. Well done sir.
@@yimb8437 more than you put in
The goals of making our ports more efficient and greener do not need to be competing. We need to upgrade the infrastructure at the ports to better support the demand which provides an opportunity to implement low or zero emissions equipment.
Efficiency unfortunately comes at the price of resilience. It's clear that JIT shipping and other cost cutting measures just don't handle shock very well.
Moving manufacturing back to the US could solve major supply chain issues as well as related environment pollution challenges
The world's supply of oil is estimated to last no more than 50 yrs. That should do it.
They should but business owners don't want to pay all the benefits and salaries, they go with the premise of produce more expending less., why do you think they shipped out all manufacturing jobs overseas?
You're going to get all of the raw materials here too?
@@susanjaneterry1073 The 2000s Called and they want their talking point back
@@dosmastrify We are oblivious of the fact that there will be a time, measured in decades, when these fuels will run out. Because of global population rise, there is a growing demand for energy. This growth is endangering our future. What will we do when fossil fuels run out?
Regarding the labor shortage, 2 questions:
1. Why is there a shortage of 80,000 truck drivers nationwide?
2. Why is there a shortage of 400,000 warehouse workers nationwide?
Bonus Q: How did we get to this point?
@Killer Miser you would still have labor shortages even with immigration though
Port drivers are abused. Heavily. Poor equipment, often shady companies, and very often paid per container not per hour. Would you want a job where you have to wait 2-4 hours per day for free in a crappy day cab, and on top of that get paid poorly and treated with absolutely no respect anywhere along the trip? Port workers, shippers, receivers, dispatchers, everyone along the line puts ridiculous demands on the driver. It's not a good working environment. Until that's fixed, there will always be a 'shortage'. It's a shortage of pay, benefits, and respect. Not a shortage of workers. There are plenty of people with the license to do the job. No one wants to do it because driving containers is a horrible job.
@@alrighty4456
Unfortunately, the conservatives are still protectionist, unwilling to give those employment to the immigrants despite the dire labor shortage.
@@whathell6t Conservatives aren't the only ones who don't believe in solving every economic and social problem in the US by using desperate emigrants to undercut native born workers and to enable employers including large profitable multinationals to maintain poor pay and benefits packages and deplorable working conditions.
There is a shortage, because they are not being paid and they don't have good working conditions - like truck drivers not being paid while they wait for their cargo.
US West Coast have 5: Port of Los Angeles, Port of Long Beach, Port of Oakland, Port of Seattle, Port of Tacoma. Canada have 2: Port of Vancouver, Port of Prince Rupert.
Some employees from ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles work slow believe me really slow making big lines of truck, drivers waiting hours to pick up a container
This is also self-inflicted, we now know that many of these transport companies, ports, suppliers, etc. are willing to look away at the problem and enjoy the high margins brought by this unique issue. Let's not be dumb here, money talks and we know what's going on, this is not an overlooked issue, governments and private entities have teams who oversee these problems and with data can predict certain issues like this one, voters need to push on the issue and make sure it gets solved.
I completely agree.
Yep, bad leaders and poorly over-regulated areas like california.. for many industry, is why people are not working in california much anymore and headed to smarter states run by true leaders like Florida and Texas.. undeniably obvious, truckers said it out of their own mouths... so, reality check season for california and big city voters.. you were duped big time to vote for the wrong people who cant lead, obviously... we were cheated, obviously as citizens by rich cheaters and monopoly machines set up by the elite.
@@dertythegrower No one in the world or smart enough would classify TX or FL as a smart ran state lol 1st of all, look are they good, yes but let's be honest here they are nowhere near as good in terms of GDP on both exports and imports, those two have a long way to go and a lot of their policies is what's hurting their recruiting numbers in terms of attracting good talent, not Joe white who can talk and do sales. CA certainly does need a lot of work and a lot of those laxed policies is what's kicking their butts now, but these blue states will remain on top for a reason, CA, NY, WA ( Seattle ), they will continue to dominate because the red states forgot one crucial thing, the U.S. does not currently have good enough talent in house to oversee all the complex problems that will continue to come in the future, you have to attract international talent, especially in the key areas where we need them and FL and TX policies hurt them a lot, you can only grow so much from Beaches and cheap state Tax.
@@dertythegrower - You've really bought into the right wing BS about California, haven't you? It's adorable when right wingers pretend to understand economics, though.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
I swear this is like the 100th video I've seen on this in like 5 months lmfao.
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containers get unloaded, put on a trailer frame, brought to a warehouse to be unloaded or transfered to other type of containers... for the road...... with different frames...
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I'm torn about unions, sometimes what they do sounds great, other times its incredibly damaging and selfish.
They don't provide enough information on how other ports operate. I am sure many on the business end of things love to point to unions as the cause for their problems, but other countries are heavily unionised and their ports are still more efficient. We should take an international perspective and learn from others to solve our problems while maximising efficiency.
Unions have a place when the government doesn’t want to regulate and establish safe working conditions.
You know what else is selfish? CEOs jacking up their salaries by millions of dollars while freezing salaries of workers during one of the biggest inflation climbs in recent years.
If CEOs can be selfish, so should workers.
Only sounds great if you listen to what they have to say and the tons of propaganda they pay for.
Unions have just been legalized mafias their entire history. Most of them were even owned by the Italian Mafia at some point
@@flakgun153 yeah, the coal workers of West Virginia should've accepted to be enslaved and killed by the private militia of the companies peacefully instead of organizing themselves in unions and fighting them, sure. That's how you sound like: feudal lords have supreme power over any peasant's life and any plebeian that tries to contest their rule shall be crushed!
One of the reasons is CA is banning all 10yr old diesel truck from the street, most old independent truckers are not interested of buying new ones and instead retire early...
Amazon and Walmart just leased or bought entire ships so the smaller 1-10 container importers get kicked off and pay 5x more than bigs. I just paid $22,500 from Bangkok to NY 40’
Used to be under $5k
Port workers pushed back HARD against shipping containers when those came along too. Automation and innovation happens, you can either embrace it or get left behind.
To be fair, they didn't want it because they couldn't steal as easily.
I downloaded a copy of that report, and it is more complicated than the title suggests. Ports in the eastern United States rank quite highly in the world, ports such as Philadelphia, Charleston, and Savannah. It the Californian ports that are the laggards.
How do you have a port in Philly?
@@saulgoodman2018 The Port of Philadelphia is located on the Delaware River
yeah but those ports dont take anywhere as much cargo so it's easy to rank higher due to less logisitcs...
@@darkchurchhill Singapore takes four times as much shipping as Los Angeles or Long Beach and it is far more efficient. How come?
Also Savannah has traffic of 4.6 million TEU, which is almost exactly half of Los Angeles's 9.2 million. It is the second largest on the East Coast after New York/New Jersey. That's hardly insignificant.
@@WG55 I wasn't referring to other countries but Philadelphia, savannah, and Charleston. I know other countries shipping is faster because there is just more investment in better infrastructure.
Savannah is a fast growing port it the US, and its load is not insignificant. Unlike in LA or Long Beach they also have room to expand and house shipping containers which will allow for their growth. However, it is also not comparable to LA at the moment because like you said it only has to deal half the amount of load that LA deals with, and even then (also with the largest single-terminal container facility in the US) it is still running into many of the same issues other US ports are currently dealing with (tons boats backed up at sea)
most of the problem is that the entire 'system' works only if and only if every thing works perfectly. when it doesnt, things tend to start falling apart. the last good year was 2018-2019, which means for almost 3 years, demand for shipping was down. and imports were down, since domestic demand was down (both retail and wholesale), because orders were either cancelled or reduced to a bare minimum. thats strike one. it also lead to transportation issues in that truck drivers were layed off or decided it wasnt worth it any more based on what the got paid, and even trains would have been impacted some would have been shutdown, as not needed any more. then as demand started to grow again, it takes time to restart the supply chain (no matter how imperfect it is or isnt, it will take time to do that). first off all, the vendors who are shipping goods (retail or whole sale goods) have to restart their assembly lines (or at worst have to build new plants since the vendors got new orders from new customers, and the plants were at full production, or they had let go so many workers that they couldnt increase, and many would return). this is strike 2. then you have that the international shipping isnt set up restart their business any better than any of the other parts are, as they probably mothballed ships, let go sailors, cancelled or reduced contracts for fuel, food etc. now they have to put ships back into service (oh at there are many shipping lines in this 'boat'. as will be the ship yards being backed with too much work and too little yard space, and few workers to actually work on so many ships). now we get to ports themselves, since they went to very low levels of activity they had to rehire many they had let go (if they could. who wants to work for them much?) and reduced open hours. course there was another problem (that would happen even if they had the workers), with so much inbound shipping, they have trouble sending the containers back to be reused again. so they started to stack up at the ports, leading the ports being clogged with them. now you have struck out. while each of the businesses involved didnt cause this mess all by themselves, they each provided a large part of the problem. then their are sellers of the products (or manufacturers) each had adopted a flavor just in time parts, products. i.e. just have enough supplies to match up with sales/production. and it doesnt help inflation if there is a limited supply of products/parts with a return to more demand. isnt that one of those ECON 101 reasons that causes inflation?
one more thing, since ports also cut back, they had lots of containers stranded at the ports with no one to take them. which doesnt help unclog the ports
which US shipyard builds container ship today ?
Wouldn’t have been so much of a problem if the west coast terminals were all automated….
You would need to automate the entire supply chain to fix the problem. From the port to the truck driver to the warehouse.
The problem is the US is trying to protect all there jobs. The Jones act to protect US shippers, regulators who are protecting truckers and warehouse workers, the unions protecting port workers.
If America can stop trying to protect themselves and open themselves up to global forces and foreign vessels, your supply chain issues would be solved.
part of the problem might be that in a grocery store there are 40 foot long aisles stacked with just soda and chips, which is barely food, and the dollar store junk too
It's usually the truck driver himself stocking this junkfood, further limiting the transport capacity.
I have been waiting over a year for furniture.
Looking at the graph of cargo loads per year its clear that this was going to happen with our without covid happening. Probably just accelerated the issue by a couple of years at most.
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This Particular union (Unions are the best) is the absolute worst. THEY RARELY hire enough people & when they do it takes months if not years to get hired off the list.
Unions are only good for certain jobs that the government fails to regulate for safety. Someone has to do it
@@KRYMauL Anybody who says that doesn't know what they are talking about
@@shelbynamels973 Give me one time where a union would be better than having the government just regulate the damn industry.
@@KRYMauL Good question, had me stumped for an answer.
I wanted to say the NFL, MLB and NBA players union, but that would have been too glib.
So I'm gonna say maybe not so much the regulation as the enforcement. Government is notoriously slow in recognizing and responding to a problem, and then often does so with a sledge hammer.
A local union can be much faster in pinpointing a problem, coming up with an acceptable response, and has more of a stake in getting it fixed first
@@shelbynamels973 True, the government does tend to use a sledgehammer to fix a problem. For example Medicare-for-all isn’t nearly as useful as an actual market place where every health care option is listed like the Dutch system. My point was that unions are a good first step, and that the next step is regulation.
This isn’t to say I like unions or regulation, but I know that sometimes one much swallow personal beliefs for the good of society.
Solving this is easy but expensive . , also the port of LA doesnt use stradler carriers . They invested heavy in automated cranes . Wich are alot slower . Imagine that . Also ports all over the world need more rail connections to deep inland locations 200-500 miles
Time to build more ports!
Where? Who is going to pay for them? How long will it take to build and open?
Why not just build a railroad across the bearing sea like the channel tunnel and link China and the US that way?
State of California mandated
Not entirely true many older trucks are still allowed including my 2009 Freightliner Columbia. Most trucks at the port are older than 3 yrs
Is Los Angeles the only Pacific Coast city to have a port?
My thought exactly 🤔🤔, maybe I'd one of the few to manage containers?
California has six shipping ports. Some are specialized, and not all can be accessed by the largest vessels in use today.
Longshoremen in Long Beach are deliberately slowing down before contract negotiations.
I wonder what impact Jones Act has on emissions - shipping generally means less CO2 per kg per mile than other forms of transport, although I'm not actually sure how it compares to rail freight. My gut instinct says that it'd be greener to use more ships, assuming they stick to the same coast and don't go coast to coast via Panama.
The real problem is not about the low efficiency of US ports, it's that this has been the way it is for years and no one cares. Americans spent decades fighting for social justice and equity on gender, age, race, sexual orientation, etc., I'm not saying that this isn't important, but Americans paid too little attention on improving or revamping the infrastructure to catch up with modern business demands. If you really want everyone in this country to live an affordable & quality life, you have to focus more on the physical side of this country. We need reliable and affordable systems to better serve people, whether it's medical system or logistics. We need to pay more attention on these areas that can really impact and improve people's everyday lives.
It's basically the same old issue in pretty much every US industry and business. The problem is there, and everyone knows, but nobody cares.
IoT would help the port and importers. Less aging cargo. Also a high speed rail connection to infill stations or directly to sF, Seattle, Vegas, and other major transport hubs would be amazing. Faster transport of goods boom
But nooooo
Diseconomies of scale... even though cost are higher marginal revenue is still more than marginal cost.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
I've worker in warehouses for basically my entire life. This means I've work 50+ hours a week my whole life and I've never made more than $34k per year.
Why haven't you improved your skills? I for one don't feel sorry for you.
That’s not good.
@@Bwize716 what is his point? Does he want us to feel sorry for him?
@@tira2145 Because I live in a low income area, own my house with no bank in that mix, own my car outright. And I actually don't hate my job.
I'm only pointing out the problem because I'm well aware the problem for everyone else.
You sould at least have 2% a year raise of salary.
@5:38 They failed to mention that Portland Oregon has a container port. I know it is not in the USA but a big container port on the western North America is Vancouver British Columbia. Coos Bay Oregon is looking at building a container port facility.
A side note; Kalama Washington is a non container port but is very important to the exporting of bulk cargo from the northwest United states and some cargo from the Midwest.
I worked for the Post office and saw the workforce decline from 870k to 600k through attrition with the introduction of automation over 10+ years. Automation is inevitable at the ports; they won't be able to keep up with what will be a continual rise in containers as the population grows.
Portland has a dangerous Columbia River bar crossing and a long trip up river using 'Bar Pilots' and 'River Pilots' so that increases cost and time to unload.
How many times has this story showed up in the last year?
they need to open another port in sandiego county and ventura county.
That’s the right attitude
Can someone explain how only 50 odd percent of trade between USA and Asia arrives by ship? What else woulf it come by? There is no way air freight makes up that much! Thanks
Submarine transport, human capital trade, blimps, and portals. Also some birds can fly themselves and small letters
Magic portals
If they're going by dollar value, then the remaining 41% might be small, high value items economical to fly on cargo planes
this is how a first country going down to a second world country because of how inefficient their transport system are, not only port are messed up, subway and public transport are worst. in the US there is lots of infrastructure that is braking down by the times and the government just know how to invest more in weapons instead of solving it and making the country works much more efficiently.
I live in San Francisco and can confirm that the Playstation 5 you ordered has been idling on a ship in the bay for weeks now.
La should come to Antwerp & see how a real port operates 😇.
Once again, the Jones Act is a god damn joke.
Do you even know what the act does?
Shippers bypassing the Port of Oakland didn't help either.
Golden Gate bridge limits the larger ships from entering.
@@PASH3227 nice lie and bull crap
@@dknowles60 No, that's why there is less shipping to the SF Bay than LA. The Golden Gate Bridge has a lower clearance height than the Vincent Thomas Bridge. Port of Long beach is planning on removing their old bridge to allow larger ships to pass through. There's also less infrastructure like freeways and railroads.
@@PASH3227 nice lie and bull crap. from google the golden gate is 220 ft above high tide. by fed gov law a ocean bridge only has to be 200 ft above high tide for the vincent thomas bridge its only has 185 ft of Clearance. the golden gate has 35 ft more lots of rail roads at the port of oakland. next time try google
@@dknowles60 I learned something new. Thanks for the correction! I also mentioned there's more infrastructure at the ports in LA. Shippers are "bypassing" Oakland since the port has less capacity than LA and Long Beach.
why? they are meant for navy ships but not commercial cargo logistics
Unions have always undermined production to prove the leverage is in the workers.
The US has efficient ports and inefficient ones. The Port of Savannah is efficient, the automated part of the Port of Long Beach is efficient. The Port of Los Angeles refuses automation so it's inefficient. Traffic is moving to the Port of Savannah (TEUs volume doubled in past 4 years) and other efficient ports, the expansion of the Panama Canal helps east coast ports. To move TEUs from the West to the East Coast is costly and takes time, this helps pay for the extra fees when crossing the Panama Canal.
Just dig a strait mexican cannal like suez. Dig it dry, 1km wide, 100m depth. Build the bridges. In the end, explode the both sides temporary sea walls to the cannal flood.
The evergreen that block the suez cannal was 400m long, and the most long bridge section are 1km long. With 1km cannal wide, we can have 2 evergreens rotating without touching each other. Problem solved.
Dig the cannal in the mexican itzmo, and no tie panama need anymore.
the port of long beach is not Efficient.
Obviously they don't want to talk about the 5th busiest port in the US (Garden City aka Savannah).
Or where any other port in the US fell on that list.
@hurry2011: And, if the Panama Canal hadn't been expanded to the tune of billions of dollars to enable it to handle super sized container ships, what difference would the automation of Savannah make? At the end of the day, it is a global system and strong links here and there will always be neutralized (balanced?) by the presence of weaker links which cannot ALL be either bypassed or subsidized and modernized to smooth out the kinks.
@@dpeasehead Savannah see a large amount of Middle East traffic, and not Chinese.
put the homeless people in tents all over LA to work and train them to use forklifts, drive trucks and operate equipment. Then allow them a vacant lot to live and supply them with porto potys and laundry services.
You want them to work? They are just comfortable enough living off the government.
Love the idea of training the homeless for port jobs. The only issue is many are unwilling/unable due to mental illness.
@@PASH3227 self inflicted mental illness. No one forced them to get on drugs.
dont forget the port of stockton is now the 4th biggest port on the west cost
How are the docks not open 24 hours? Unions are not good in this case.
These longshoremen make $35 - $50 an hour and they want more?! Automation is the best option for shipping.
Elon musks and Jeff Bezos make millions and they want more?? They could end poverty and hunger in the U.S. if they wanted to
@@finishfirst4580 They aren’t the ones paying longshoremen.
@@fdr8343 I’m confused. Should the longshoremen want less? Why do you care how much a longshoreman makes?
People try to get paid as much as possible for whatever they are doing or selling. At the end of the day nobody is be forced to pay a certain amount of money.
@@fdr8343 Everybody wants MORE money. Tom Cruise wants more money. Steph Curry wants more money. Jeff Bezos wants more money. If someone is willing to give them more money should they turn it down because they are already millionaires and billionaires?? Jeff Bezos did not pay a dime in taxes yet he made billions last year
Military was deployed to help nurses, maybe the same thing can be done to assist with unloading and moving goods
That is not the job of the military.
@@saulgoodman2018 - Are you forgetting that the ports being stuffed is a national security issue?
@@TommyJonesProductions It is not a national security issue.
How do you think it is?
@@saulgoodman2018 It IS a national security issue. How can you imagine that it's not?
@@TommyJonesProductions Than tell me how it is.
It's not a labor shortage but chassis shortage by congestion. How can you move product when the device is in short supply
or make an island off the coast where u leave the empty containers.
The power of some unions is ridiculous. Just because many companies are terrible, is no reason to make labor laws that enable unions to punish everyone in the country. We need real reform.
Won't someone think of the billionaires? How dare those lazy union employees demand being treated like actual human beings not slaves to corporate greed!
@@M123Xoxo Lol, you mean the longshoremen? Are you kidding me? If you put the job description and compensation package out as an advertisement, you’d get a hundred thousand applications. It’s one of the best job deals in the entire world. Seriously, there are people managing dozens of workers who would be glad to give up their manager gig to trade up to being a longshoreman.
Wait, are you being sarcastic?
@Random Human I agree the right to unionize and collectively bargain ought to remain because it keeps employers in line. At the same time, much of the labor laws have gotten quite out of whack. On top of that, we have public sector unions. Who are the cruel masters of these down trodden proletariat? The public. Oh the terror.
It seems to me, this longshoremen thing has, on top of the automobile bail outs, shown that the system is broken. It seems to me that for one thing, the unions don’t always really have the existing members as their first priority. Also, they aren’t interested in getting a fair deal, but at sharing in pricing power and claiming exclusivity at the expense of others in the economy.
Finally, let’s drop the whole unions brought us stuff.. Increased productivity brought us the things we have. Virtual industrial monopoly in the post war period brought us many things. Perhaps unions got them to our grandparents before they might otherwise have gotten them, but let’s not fall for these weak arguments about how we’d not have them without unions. What we wouldn’t have if unions had even more power is much of the things we do have because they are anti productivity apparently.
The ILWu is an outlier. Much of its power comes from the fact that this is one job that can't be outsourced. Because they created a labor monopoly, it can't be insourced either.
Before you post again, familiarize yourself with the history of the labor movement in this country. You need to go back to the 19th century for that.
If you don't know the name Harry Bridges or Bloody Thursday, find out about that specifically.
@@shelbynamels973 That’s ridiculous. How about you stop posting until you know all about Mario Savio? I mean seriously, are you trying to say we need all this labor law to stop employers from shooting strikers? How about you look at Detroit. That’s got more to do with current labor law than your necessary history does.
Much of the most problematic rules seem to be from after the 50’s anyways.
Oh, and just in case, read up on your Old Testament before you eat again. You don’t want to get food poisoning.
Amazing.
Solution. Make products in the USA, Canada and Mexico.
What drives me crazy is that if the proper investments were made, we could produce most everything we need in the USA, at a decent cost.
How would that make goods move faster within the U.S.? There's a shortage of warehouse workers and truck drivers.
@@user-cw2py6wh8l the ports are the main bottleneck. You obviously didn't watch the video
@@cliffbluff There's a bottleneck because of shortage of workers. How would making product in Mexico solve the shortage of U.S. workers.
@@cliffbluff The bottleneck will shift to rail and truck. The U.S. ports are inefficient because of the union. Union oppose to automation and working on weekend. Most ports are open 24/7 except for the U.S.
I thought I was going to learn about the chip shortage, turns out, it was a ship shortage .
I’ll see myself out
no, its the unions that unload the ships. Its a bullship shortage
Union too
Bullish on American business! Solving logistic issues should go a long way to relieve pricing pressure on a lot of goods
How about using AI, 5G, automated cranes and driverless trucks like in Chinese ports?
Dream on! Not with the current political climate
Lmao stop throwing buzzwords. 5G lmao
Dock workers don’t work nights or weekends?
Why was there no problem before 2021? What has been changed since year 2021?
The key word that is overlooked in atomization is a SUCCESSFULLY automized port. I have family and friends that can attest that there are many problems with the current systems that are in place at the port currently that still need to be ironed out with the automized systems. Also, the 24 hr thing is bs. The port, was essentially opened for 24hrs anyway; it was just a political gambit in order to make it seem like the politicians are actually taking steps. All in all the problem is that it is getting harder to expand the facilities because of a lack of room and the companies that are in charge of hiring new workers waited for years before hiring anyone new to work the port leading to a shortage of workers
nice lie and bull crap. its the unions that hire for port workers jobs
I don’t think we should treat the record volume coming to the western ports as the norm and it probably won’t be the norm going into the future.
The past two years have been very unique in that local economies and producers went offline due to pandemic restrictions, the money supply increased due to stimulus checks, and demand for cheap light weight goods surged because local services weren’t available.
We shouldn’t assume that these variables will stay the same going forward as restrictions are ending, the domestic economy and employment is rebounding, and the amount of income and borrowing is going back to normal levels as interest rates increase and stimulus money ends
The demand for goods isn’t because local services were unavailable those two things don’t even correlate. They are in demand because you went from 4 hours a day at home to 24 hours a day. New comps, monitors, speakers, tv, computer chairs, pots, pans…
@@brianholloway6205 I entirely agree with you. I should have written my comment better but that’s what I was attempting to allude to.
Pre pandemic if you wanted to go on a bit of a splurge you might go see a movie, go to the local aquarium, go to a restaurant. Once the pandemic started however we were all stuck at home with little to nothing to do it terms of having fun outside of the home
@@jarjarbinks6018 ohhhhhh crap. See this is what I hate this is a better conversation in person at a coffee shop. Too many subjective terms not designed to be truncated to social media….
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Utilize more ports than the Port of Los Angeles. That is why there are more than 1 or 2 ports on the West Coast. Time to improve the infrastructure all along the West Coast and better utilize ports like Portland Oregon and Seattle along with others along the West Coast. Maybe C-suite should stop lining their pockets and pay better as well to entice people to work for them and get paid enough to afford to live instead of constantly trying to pay as little as possible.
its that most container ships need deep water ports. you cant just make those as they requires geography that will allow it. but i suppose some ports could take the containers that are stacking up at the ports and maybe ships could be encouraged to take those on and get them where they need to be
Consumer spending didn't expand enough to explain this colossal failure. It's too disproportionate given the complete and total breakdown of the supply chain.