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There was a stealth nerf recently to ocelot which personally I don't mind. Pretty sure it involved the front Dodge forward bash no longer doing direct damage but instead guaranteeing a light attack and if you miss the front Dodge Ford Bash you can no longer chain the follow up bashes.
Hunter Stance feels like the kind of move you'd see in a Year 1 Season 1 hero, I hope they do something to it in the future to make it a little more interesting. Hero seems fun outside of that!
@@lucasfroehlich6071 that’s the thing, it’s only viable in 4s and nothing else. It needs work for it to be an actual useful “stance” bcuz at the moment it’s only one move. You can’t even punish people by entering the stance to dodge and attack and doing the jump attack from it since the opponent recovers in time to block. 1v1’s need to be taken into consideration when making a character and this stance neglects that entirely. Why consider 1v1 scenarios for a new hero? Well every other outlander dlc hero has been hugely geared toward 4s. Medjay, Afeera, Pirate. All cracked in 4s. This should’ve been the outlier.
@@lucasfroehlich6071 that’s the thing, it’s only viable in 4s and nothing else. It needs work for it to be an actual useful “stance” bcuz at the moment it’s only one move. You can’t even punish people by entering the stance to dodge and attack and doing the jump attack from it since the opponent recovers in time to block. 1v1’s need to be taken into consideration when making a character and this stance neglects that entirely. Why consider 1v1 scenarios for a new hero? Well every other outlander dlc hero has been hugely geared toward 4s. Medjay, Afeera, Pirate. All cracked in 4s. This should’ve been the outlier.
@rain89skarlet80 sounds like a bad player. Most feats some characters rely on feats entirely, like nuxia, and they add customization and flare to make your characters more unique than others. Otherwise what would be the point of having 4 slots
@@W0rstboy13 maybe who Cares? I Play since Launch and sry feats are Just unbalanced bs Gimmicks. feats have Zero to do with Player Skill, or will you honestly Tell me nuxia 's Spikeballs add anything interesting to her Kit?
@rain89skarlet80 it stops people from empty dodging her kit. But moreso, deadly duelist increases her ones capacity. Also "playing since launch" means nothing. You're bad if you're complaining about feats, point blank period. Go play street fighter or something
Hear me out next hero where his 4th tier he throws his weapons away and goes fisticuffs and has loads hyperarmor but deals like 5 damage but combos can increase it to like 15, and the 4th gives him more health so he can tank a lot more, thoughts?
To fix the ganking issue, they gotta increase the chain link between opener and finisher. Bashes resetting hitstun isn't new at all, but the fast flow of two different ones isn't that common(there are examples, of course) Or just making the finisher bash not reset hitstun. That'll fix it too.
Orochi can on landed kicks, it's possible to time it with the 100ms timing after their guard comes up before they dodge to confirm attacks that are not unblockableS
@51TD0wN shinobi, tiandi, shaolin, Valk, jorm, aramusha, medjay, shugoki, and hito(these are all that are on the top of my head) They can do two bashes in a row that confirms multiple hits from your teammate This is because these bashes flow fast enough to be confirmed off hitstun and because their chain bash resets hitstun. Put those two together, and you have a nasty way of confirming damage.
@@A-Dieselonly aramusha and Tiandi have back to back, no attacks in between, fast flowing bashes. All the other characters require throwing an attack in-between which uses up hitstun and reduces the damage they take while being hit by another person. Tiandi’s bash also doesn’t do damage outright or reset hitstun
@gaylussac6156 never said the other characters ganks are the exact same or are better, but they function pretty much identical As in you throw two bashes and the teammate gets free hits while also confirming the chain bash.
@@mrartyomych8504 exactly, those kinds of weapons are notoriously brutal and would cause really gnarly injuries. They wouldn't really "cut" they would moreso rip into them like a chainsaw. Ppl really thought he was gonna be more bleed-heavy.
That sucks, this game is tough on newcomers that aren't committed to learning it to get better. Takes a while to get to the best fashion for a hero too.
They could recycle and rework shamans own stance into Oce. No bash of course but yeah he needs something in here. It’s like Orochi’s old back heavy that was so useless back then
@@colehaeska5872 and please, can they stop with the infinite combo thing ? I do 't want to be rude, the teams do a lot of great jobs in animation and design, but the gameplay ? Infinite combo ? It is...easy in terms of character design.
Honestly, I'm fine with the hidden stance heavy being UB. Its too slow for it to be scary at all in a team fight when i can just keep my guard in this dudes direction and BOOM the threat of peel is non-existent
Oh yeah sure let’s add a bash that doesn’t reduce the damage of the next attack and add another off-screen pull projectile, that’s what everybody wanted
Im not sure the mechanics of this but could his light hit boxes just not be registering on players, he isn’t locked onto? I was watching Havok duel, and the feint to light seemed to be catching dodges and dodge atracks pretty well. Which would indicate they do have a decent hitbox. Would also explain your wall hit. If say they only thing your lights interacted with is environment and locked opponents.
I read once, watched the duel. I read twice, watched again, and I am pretty sure your are actually right. Oo' But it would mean that a core component is missing. And the release is tomorrow :(
Note: just watched Faraam’s video, seems the light would hit surrounding players as long as it could also hit the locked player but will need to take a closer look
That's what I talked about multiple times regarding bashes, Guaranteed attacks would wreck 4v4 to the max, now you can't stand a gank This hybrid of medjay+jorm means antiganking is not viable anymore "the main base of the game"
Antiganking has never been viable. Against people who know how to gank properly, you're going to die. Antiganking is a stalling method, where you just try to survive as long as possible to hold enemy attention and contest while you wait for teammates. The only way you're going to "win" an anti gank against good gankers is if they make a couple mistakes and you make zero.
@@MrErtwerYes you can parry and block any light and heavy after the confirmed heavy from sweep. However you won’t be able dodge a light follow up since his lights are 400ms so you’ll have to block or parry.
@@leflashblanc8166 But the devs don't seem to want to do anything about Medjay's bash, so if their attention isn't on that then it's a fair assumption.
I think he is a cross of all classes heavy with the hyper armor and slow heavy and zone Assassin with his fast dodge attacks and his new stance Vanguard nice amounts of damage and has lots of bashes
@@seiy_ i know but all hybrides up untill ocelotl have been ether a mixes of vanguard and heavy Assassin and heavy Or a assassin and vanguard But never in all 7 years would i have ever thought of a mix of all three vanguard, assassin and heavy
You say this like the class system has meant anything besides how much health a character has for god knows how long, hybrids play like heavies, heavies play like hybrids, vanguard's play like hybrids, assassin's play like vanguard's. You get the jist
@@BarakaTheGreat tnx for info.i seen some concept art and seen him how he looks without all that and I whose really hoping he would have that style in the game. Because parrot style isn’t really my style 😏
Characters like Magi and sugoki already have an infinite with their bashes, but here with the hunters heavy it becomes rather stupidly easy to confirm that infinite since you get it for free after a hug or magi grab, and it will pin, which could confirm an additional grab.
@@fkkfreeze yes it does, ill upload a 10 second video for you if you don't believe me, Im a man to prove their word, I had to test it out just because you're a credible source
Give him deflects with his bat, he has a really shallow moveset despite being a menace. Like make him catch the opponents sword through his obsidian teeth in his cricket bat. Idk about larger weapons tho
I am so tired of every fucking new hero has to have a pin move. Why? Why did we move into this direction? Why do we need more ways to delete a players healthbar without a counterplay? This is so stupid.
I feel I get bored very soon and I'm not trying to be Be mean about it to let everyone know I just feel that way about bc it doesn't feel new to the looks are good but how he plays I don't think he going to be fun to play
This hero is terrible. Ask yourself, outside of the fashion what makes this hero standout from the others? So many other heroes do what this guy does but better. This is the worst hero release since the launch of this game and I cannot believe he made it past testing. I hope they add more to his kit soon otherwise there’s ZERO point in playing him over any of the real heroes.
Looks like absolute ass, he’s just another hyper armor infinite chain hero like they’ve been making and reworking others into. Sad to see such a cool design for a character be wasted when they could have added a bleed mechanic like everyone wanted
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There was a stealth nerf recently to ocelot which personally I don't mind.
Pretty sure it involved the front Dodge forward bash no longer doing direct damage but instead guaranteeing a light attack and if you miss the front Dodge Ford Bash you can no longer chain the follow up bashes.
Hunter Stance feels like the kind of move you'd see in a Year 1 Season 1 hero, I hope they do something to it in the future to make it a little more interesting. Hero seems fun outside of that!
It feels like orochis backdodge attack in singleplayer where you have to hold one stick back & the other forward
I like it the way it is but that’s just me, it does look limited it’s just there. I do see potential with out of stm plays or even revenge.
@@lucasfroehlich6071 that’s the thing, it’s only viable in 4s and nothing else. It needs work for it to be an actual useful “stance” bcuz at the moment it’s only one move. You can’t even punish people by entering the stance to dodge and attack and doing the jump attack from it since the opponent recovers in time to block.
1v1’s need to be taken into consideration when making a character and this stance neglects that entirely.
Why consider 1v1 scenarios for a new hero? Well every other outlander dlc hero has been hugely geared toward 4s. Medjay, Afeera, Pirate. All cracked in 4s. This should’ve been the outlier.
@@lucasfroehlich6071 that’s the thing, it’s only viable in 4s and nothing else. It needs work for it to be an actual useful “stance” bcuz at the moment it’s only one move. You can’t even punish people by entering the stance to dodge and attack and doing the jump attack from it since the opponent recovers in time to block.
1v1’s need to be taken into consideration when making a character and this stance neglects that entirely.
Why consider 1v1 scenarios for a new hero? Well every other outlander dlc hero has been hugely geared toward 4s. Medjay, Afeera, Pirate. All cracked in 4s. This should’ve been the outlier.
@@MibuInMalibu you can use it in 1v1 against a Full charge bash but that’s about it. It’s there when you need it ig
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Infinite chain, the character. This is the best character for matchmaking.
This might be weird, but the thing I'm always excited for is specifically the new hero's secondary feats
Same, I like seeing which feats they incorporate into them. Waiting for them to give another character chilling stare still
? weird...i absolutly hate that feats even exists
@rain89skarlet80 sounds like a bad player. Most feats some characters rely on feats entirely, like nuxia, and they add customization and flare to make your characters more unique than others.
Otherwise what would be the point of having 4 slots
@@W0rstboy13 maybe who Cares? I Play since Launch and sry feats are Just unbalanced bs Gimmicks. feats have Zero to do with Player Skill, or will you honestly Tell me nuxia 's Spikeballs add anything interesting to her Kit?
@rain89skarlet80 it stops people from empty dodging her kit. But moreso, deadly duelist increases her ones capacity.
Also "playing since launch" means nothing. You're bad if you're complaining about feats, point blank period. Go play street fighter or something
Hear me out next hero where his 4th tier he throws his weapons away and goes fisticuffs and has loads hyperarmor but deals like 5 damage but combos can increase it to like 15, and the 4th gives him more health so he can tank a lot more, thoughts?
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To fix the ganking issue, they gotta increase the chain link between opener and finisher.
Bashes resetting hitstun isn't new at all, but the fast flow of two different ones isn't that common(there are examples, of course)
Or just making the finisher bash not reset hitstun. That'll fix it too.
Who else can do two bashes back to back like that?
Orochi can on landed kicks, it's possible to time it with the 100ms timing after their guard comes up before they dodge to confirm attacks that are not unblockableS
@51TD0wN shinobi, tiandi, shaolin, Valk, jorm, aramusha, medjay, shugoki, and hito(these are all that are on the top of my head)
They can do two bashes in a row that confirms multiple hits from your teammate
This is because these bashes flow fast enough to be confirmed off hitstun and because their chain bash resets hitstun.
Put those two together, and you have a nasty way of confirming damage.
@@A-Dieselonly aramusha and Tiandi have back to back, no attacks in between, fast flowing bashes. All the other characters require throwing an attack in-between which uses up hitstun and reduces the damage they take while being hit by another person. Tiandi’s bash also doesn’t do damage outright or reset hitstun
@gaylussac6156 never said the other characters ganks are the exact same or are better, but they function pretty much identical
As in you throw two bashes and the teammate gets free hits while also confirming the chain bash.
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@@fkkfreeze dang that’s sick asf
Hit box on players vs Hit box on walls feels like it needs a video sometimes I swear
Just wish he was more centered around bleed rather than spamming buttons
Can't obsidian get tremendously sharp?
@@mrartyomych8504 exactly, those kinds of weapons are notoriously brutal and would cause really gnarly injuries. They wouldn't really "cut" they would moreso rip into them like a chainsaw. Ppl really thought he was gonna be more bleed-heavy.
@@RD-2709 Well if we want it real life accurate the blades would shatter after 1 hit sooo.
If you notice the trend, it's just a spamming trend of infinite chains heros
@@alahawwa7487 That's only Medjay though. None of the other recent characters have true infinite chains.
Can you please test console performance mode on series x or ps5. Even with my 120hz tv i don’t see a noticeable change
They really need to tone down ganks.
ah yes 10th hybrid hero
That’s the only type of hero they make anymore. I want a new assassin
He's going to pair incredibly well with Medjay
Definitely gonna try with my brother
Aramusha/Ocelotl ganks gonna be nasty
My friends left FH after they got bodied. They were newcomers. I feel bad they could not see this Hero.
That sucks, this game is tough on newcomers that aren't committed to learning it to get better. Takes a while to get to the best fashion for a hero too.
@@MisterArdor I may sound like a bad friend, however that mother-Fr took a very hard character as a main and expected win.
@@hunterking4228 😂 Not a bad fried at all, sometimes they gotta learn the hard way.
@hunterking4228 I took the Zerk as my first main and it was a bit difficult at first
@@MisterArdorHell, it is hard on normal and used to be normal players if you lose the spark.
It just feels like ubsioft is going to be giving everyone infinite chains, and it just doesn't feel unique anymore.
The only other character to come out in like the last 3 years with an infinite chain is Medjay.
It sounds like you don’t play this game. There are only 7 characters with infinite chains, including Ocelotl.
@@mixtapex7319only😹
idk if this a horrible take but they should add a shaman like bash for his othe stance and either make it feintable or make his lunge attack blue
Did you check the gb vuln on the heavy from the stance?
Maybe some niche situations of beating feint gb for high damage/heavy parry
Give him parry punishes that bleed
What are the other feats besides the character unique ones ?
It's my favorite getting ganked and the enemies getting a cutscene and all my health is gone with 0 chance to stop them
14:35 😂 That was hilarious. 👍 I was gonna say, where hitbox? Also bash confirm looks disgustin. 👏
I could've sworn ubi said he could dodge out of hunter stance
Good character but the hunting stance is missing a lot
I was actually expecting so much a complete hunting stance. A cancel-recovery into deflect at least XD
@@larslenk9404 same I hope they add some more
They could recycle and rework shamans own stance into Oce. No bash of course but yeah he needs something in here. It’s like Orochi’s old back heavy that was so useless back then
@@colehaeska5872 and please, can they stop with the infinite combo thing ? I do 't want to be rude, the teams do a lot of great jobs in animation and design, but the gameplay ? Infinite combo ? It is...easy in terms of character design.
looks fun for 2 days
What time does the hero come out? (Est)
Outside the feats the hero looks fun plus his design is cool in general
Honestly, I'm fine with the hidden stance heavy being UB. Its too slow for it to be scary at all in a team fight when i can just keep my guard in this dudes direction and BOOM the threat of peel is non-existent
It should have more dodge properties on stance
07:28 His emote spam ain't half bad, could be better tho.
Please ubi give the pounce hyper armour.
Oh yeah sure let’s add a bash that doesn’t reduce the damage of the next attack and add another off-screen pull projectile, that’s what everybody wanted
A lot of bashes do that to be fair.
Looks like a berserk with a new skin
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Im not sure the mechanics of this but could his light hit boxes just not be registering on players, he isn’t locked onto? I was watching Havok duel, and the feint to light seemed to be catching dodges and dodge atracks pretty well. Which would indicate they do have a decent hitbox. Would also explain your wall hit. If say they only thing your lights interacted with is environment and locked opponents.
I read once, watched the duel. I read twice, watched again, and I am pretty sure your are actually right. Oo' But it would mean that a core component is missing. And the release is tomorrow :(
@@larslenk9404 I appreciate your dedication
Note: just watched Faraam’s video, seems the light would hit surrounding players as long as it could also hit the locked player but will need to take a closer look
no they just work in Faraam's video no idea what's happening in this video.
@@leonciesla5456 the mystery thickens...
The bots name is “Namur” lmfao, someone at Ubi watched War for Wakanda and then saw an opportunity and took it.
That's what I talked about multiple times regarding bashes,
Guaranteed attacks would wreck 4v4 to the max, now you can't stand a gank
This hybrid of medjay+jorm means antiganking is not viable anymore "the main base of the game"
Antiganking has never been viable. Against people who know how to gank properly, you're going to die. Antiganking is a stalling method, where you just try to survive as long as possible to hold enemy attention and contest while you wait for teammates. The only way you're going to "win" an anti gank against good gankers is if they make a couple mistakes and you make zero.
@@Beanpolr and that's more problematic now, you can't even stall !
Is shaolins attack after the top attack after the sweep not blockable or even parryable? It felt like I could do nothing even if I saw it coming.
Heavy is confirmed after the sweep
You mean the follow up attack after sweep? If yes, that attack is guaranteed if you are hit by sweep. You can parry the follow up if he misses.
@@pl0xie494 Not the top heavy after sweep but the light (or heavy) after the top heavy that is after the sweep.
U Can block or Parry, its just 400 ms so that hard
@@MrErtwerYes you can parry and block any light and heavy after the confirmed heavy from sweep. However you won’t be able dodge a light follow up since his lights are 400ms so you’ll have to block or parry.
I gotta like just for the thumbnail alone
His ganks look scary but I’m willing to bet it’ll get nerfed soon
They'll nerf it right after mj's
It will not be nerfed
Medjay bash is way too overpowered to see this hero nerfed
@@tabula_rosamedjay*
@@leflashblanc8166 But the devs don't seem to want to do anything about Medjay's bash, so if their attention isn't on that then it's a fair assumption.
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Let me guess: hybrid again, innit?
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Pirate should have been a vanguard.
I think he is a cross of all classes
heavy with the hyper armor and slow heavy and zone
Assassin with his fast dodge attacks and his new stance
Vanguard nice amounts of damage and has lots of bashes
They should create a different class and call these characters hybrid or something
@@seiy_ i know but all hybrides up untill ocelotl have been ether a mixes of
vanguard and heavy
Assassin and heavy
Or a assassin and vanguard
But never in all 7 years would i have ever thought of a mix of all three vanguard, assassin and heavy
Vanguard doesn't mean bashes lol
@@ToastyYokaii was not meant to put bashes but thanks for saying
You say this like the class system has meant anything besides how much health a character has for god knows how long, hybrids play like heavies, heavies play like hybrids, vanguard's play like hybrids, assassin's play like vanguard's. You get the jist
Does he have option without this helmets? just his head model?
One of his armor sets is just a cap that shows his face in its entirety
@@BarakaTheGreat tnx for info.i seen some concept art and seen him how he looks without all that and I whose really hoping he would have that style in the game. Because parrot style isn’t really my style 😏
He should of been an assassin
Ah yes they coreross of for honor
Characters like Magi and sugoki already have an infinite with their bashes, but here with the hunters heavy it becomes rather stupidly easy to confirm that infinite since you get it for free after a hug or magi grab, and it will pin, which could confirm an additional grab.
Those Animations are gonna throw me so off
That Leap attack is so good in Dom, ive got dozens of executions from it already
it... doesn't execute
@@fkkfreeze yes it does, ill upload a 10 second video for you if you don't believe me,
Im a man to prove their word, I had to test it out just because you're a credible source
@@fkkfreezeit does if you kill from the heavy damage and not the secondary damage tick
hmmm, maybe EA was different there...
I'll retest myself, sorry if I spread misinfo here
@@fkkfreeze I’ll make sure to check again as well uno momento
buff revenge day 2083
Buff revenge
Give him deflects with his bat, he has a really shallow moveset despite being a menace. Like make him catch the opponents sword through his obsidian teeth in his cricket bat. Idk about larger weapons tho
I am so tired of every fucking new hero has to have a pin move. Why? Why did we move into this direction? Why do we need more ways to delete a players healthbar without a counterplay? This is so stupid.
He is boring compared to other characters we've gotten recently.
Looks like cancer, can’t wait to get double bash spammed that confirms to more stuff, love this game❤
Nice, the game is still fucked, no bash/pin mechanic changes. Nor GB.
I feel I get bored very soon and I'm not trying to be Be mean about it to let everyone know I just feel that way about bc it doesn't feel new to the looks are good but how he plays I don't think he going to be fun to play
whoa a genderlocked hybrid!! so original!! what will they think of next??
You like playing dress up as girl tubby?
This hero is terrible. Ask yourself, outside of the fashion what makes this hero standout from the others? So many other heroes do what this guy does but better. This is the worst hero release since the launch of this game and I cannot believe he made it past testing. I hope they add more to his kit soon otherwise there’s ZERO point in playing him over any of the real heroes.
Holy hell it doesnt seem like he gets ANY good fashion
Of all the comments under every early access video...this has to be the most retarded one 💀
Subjective tho, rly
He's drippy as hell what?
@@keagandunham5014 I've never liked helmets with hair and my man got hair in every helmet
@@keagandunham5014 nvm I have just discovered he has headgear without hair, I retract my statement and have decided I like his fashion now
Getting real sick of genderlocked hero's
Weak ahh hero.
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Looks like absolute ass, he’s just another hyper armor infinite chain hero like they’ve been making and reworking others into. Sad to see such a cool design for a character be wasted when they could have added a bleed mechanic like everyone wanted