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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, I explain how to beat the Obsession boss from Act 3, "Focused Fault". It's a 2 phase fight that is now much more straightforward than it used to be, but some of the main mechanics aren't too obvious unless you stop and examine everything. I get a ton of questions on this boss so I hope this helps.
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0:00 Intro and Strategy
1:07 Mechanics
1:40 Phase 1
3:22 Phase 2
6:04 Heroes
7:55 Items and Outro
If you kill an eye stalk on your turn, they shrink but the smaller form still gets a turn.
However, if you put a dot on them and they die on their turn, they pass it all together.
I did an attempt at this boss and I was using a guide, but the guide was outdated and I just got absolutely stomped, it made me pretty mad, because the run had gone so well up to that point. So thank you for the guide, now I can make another attempt.
Me too
I like the screenshots of the characters you are talking about, it helps to follow what you are saying
Tried to make sure people could see the builds too with the paths :)
@@ShuffleFM that was perfect continue this way!
You’ve done a great job of condensing and summarizing the information. While your longer and more disorganized videos have charm this type of video Is superior.
I had a team that was so stacked and they all had good relationships, memories and trinkets going in. The battle lasted roughly 8 minutes as Fault proceeded to pound my team into the dirt by cleaving them all. Hopefully with this guide and some elbow grease on a new team I can pull out a win….eventually….This fight is so bad….
(Context: Team was Occultist, Grace Robber, Highwayman, Hellion. I’m fighting the most recent version)
That team is really squishy unless hellion was carcass
Same man this fight is garbo
You can try with some blight combo team
(Doc,flag, highwayman, Man at arms)
It worked for me
I had the exact same team, took me too long to figure out the first phase mechanic since I went in blind
Sufice to say, I got nuked first turn by Focused Fault -_-
@@orooooooomy first blind playthrough was the previous update. Spent 30 minutes on the first part of the encounter lol.
Weird small tip: don't use the trinket that shuffles the enemies at the beginning of the fight because there is no way to see what eye will target who. Literally just doomed my first attempt at this boss because I had that trinket on and didn't know what eye to kill first.
i think you can see which eye is which if you hover over their turn order icon.
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i love bringing flagellant to this fight because he's durable, he can taunt, he can take away negative tokens from his teammates and he can passively damage boss via toxic state.
I was thinking about an hour that I needed a guide for the new focused fault and checked your channel, and here it is lol
It seems like the best way to deal damage in the second phase is through DoTs as they don't care about generating strength tokens and bypass any of the block tokens the boss gets. It's kind of weird that the game is punishing you for engaging with its core combat system and expects you to stick to the most basic things.
The first time I killed Obsession when it was first released was with a dedicated Bleed team and a nuker (Warlock Occultist - Surgeon Plague Doctor - Wanderer Highwayman - Wanderer Hellion and Leviathan Double Bleed Trophy). I never made the connection with the seen tokens and limerence; just brute forced it while 3 of my 4 heroes where being pounded.
The point is: damage over time during the first rounds of a Boss fight (when you know the Boss will be dealt the full duration of Dot) is the best source of damage in almost all situations. Make sure you have reliable Dots in all your teams!
shuffle ive been looking all over for a current guide and finally u dropped this, i can finally continue the game now thanks pop
Perfect, was looking exactly for a guide for this
Tight video! (with all the popups and extra information about items etc)
I reccomend Hellion as a tank. She also has taunt, she can dish out serious damage, and has enough self sustain to tank the boss for a good while, especially if aided with a healer.
Beat this boss yesterday first try. I realised that if the eyes in the first phase die of blight on their turn, it will also skip their turn, stopping you from potentially taking a seen token!
The first time I fought this new version of the boss I got a seen token immediately on PD turn one before I could do anything, which of course resulted in them dying and the party eventually wiping. The speed of my party was around 7-8 or so, so I'm not sure what I could've done different, at least in terms of the PD not getting auto targeted.
It's just funny because the first time I fought this boss on the old version, I beat it first try. But people seem to think it's a huge improvement, I dunno.
This one right here, ate 2-3 seen tokens before Team able to act with everyone has 7-8 speed ,
Also 2nd phase just give other ppl Seen Token as Free action is such bullshit regardless of speed.
Beat this boss before rework 2 tries after I know the mechanic, now not so much.
This version of the boss is better, but that one little thing there is worse for sure. If you don't get to act first on the first turn then you're at the mercy of the game.
Overall the boss kinda just sucks. It's a nice enough idea, but it's too punishing for too little of a mistake(or sometimes no mistake at all, just bad luck). It also wouldn't be as bad if it didn't take 3 to 5 hours for a retry.
@@peco595 Yeah honestly, I rather do all act hard mode than act 3 full positive relationship + op trinket.
Such a hassle design.
Much appriceated Shuffle. You doing god's work
Thanks for the tips! This boss continues to be an annoying nut to crack and detailed guides on the new one like this are rare. Keep up the good work
No problem, hope it makes it easier and thank you for your kindness :)
Nice video! Looking forward to the one you make next week when they rework it again
I am happy that I did understand the mechanics correct, I still struggle with this boss since I am trying preparing to try the grand slam. Would be nice to hear your thoughts on boss 4! The only strategy i found for last phase is a combination of insane luck + DPS 😱
Great guide as usual! Personally, I kinda like the updated version of this boss. I'm glad I had a chance to take out the first version before the changes though. Looking forward to some more "hero and you" guides soon, I hope! :)
100% ditto on both counts. Love those shuffle hero guides!
Simply put: stack as much speed as you can and have some dodge options on your non-tank heroes. Got a Sharpshot Dismas go first in the fight with Snap Judgement proc on Turn 1 that let me dumpster one of the eyeballs before they could put tokens down (with a followup of course for the final stalk phase). Speed also really comes into play phase 2 because it lets you dump off all your damage tokens before the boss has an opportunity to steal them on crit. Unfortunately, I also lost my Jester with Parrying Patriarch 1 turn before killing the Fault. He just decided not to have his 75% improved dodge proc and fail his first death door check while he was at it.
bless you my man
I lucked through this fight on my first try without really understanding what was happening, and now that I'm trying for grand slam I literally cannot beat it as my first confession even once. Hopefully this will help! Thanks :D
Smh, i ran into this fight as my 2nd obsession run, and ofc they change how it works. Confused the heck out of me. Managed to brute force it with stained trinket leper hitting for 48 per swing, but dang i had no idea what was going on.
I didn't realize behold can be taunted, I ripped to focused fault this morning. Had a tank monarch leper with high speed pulling all the seen tokens in phase one with sharpshot highwayman, surgeon plague doctor and ritualist occultist killing the eyes. Made it to the boss full hp, no stress, everyone buffed, no negative relations. pulled all of the seen tokens to leper, went into phase 2 with everyone on high hp and low stress thanks to leper melting down, then criting with solemnity.
Then the phase 2 boss put behold on each other hero in the next three turns and blew my whole team out with limerence. Yes I am mad. This is my 6th fight against the act 3 boss across both release patches, I have had one success on each and only once had my whole team survive on the old patch. I think the devs should have another go at balancing this boss. Dont have it put more seen tokens out in the second phase until there are no heroes with seen tokens on them left would be my suggestion to tone this fight down a bit.
Also make the eyes spawn with a slow debuff first turn, or just have no seen token come out first turn. Something to mitigate losing to bad luck on turn 1
I love all your content generally and your vibe is awesome. This guide almost feels like you kind of gloss over or don't explain certain mechanics and how they work. Like are the scene tokens tauntable? How does phase 1 even work? I beat this thing twice (both one shot and before patch) and I had no idea how you get to phase 2 I just got there some how. Anyways, I don't like criticizing you at all because you've done so much for the DD2 community and I appreciate it but I figured I'd be honest.
They really reworked this guy into the "fuck your take aim" boss
Thanks for the guide, I'm trying to do Grandslam and met this boss on the day after the patch and I was like WTH ?
I pull it tru tho but only 2 left and my Second attemp, only 2 left again lol
Now I'm my on 3rd to finish this, I hope it going well.
What I wanna add to this boss is, If boss will Spam that AoE and Also possible to Add more later on, I thinks after each Attack should remove one seen stack from our Hero.
With that, the boss can still Spam as much as they want, and the mistake on 1st phase can still recovery on 2nd Phase.
I don't thinks this little tweak made this boss too easy tho.
This fight is literally the bane of my existence. I had my maa getting the tokens. Everything was going great and then got th main boss and it did lumin on maa twice and killed him. He was doing 40 plus damage everytime.
Defeated the boss today, by pure dumb luck. I was preparing my team (Flagellant, Leper, Jester and Highwayman) as best as I could but the run started really tough. I lost my flagellant (tank) before the very last tavern and he was replaced by Man in arms. Nearly died on the way to the boss then proceeded to loose my characters due to the stress. Main damage came from Leper (true god of dps), Highwayman and Jester, Man in arms just suffered from attacks most of the time. He died first, then leper, then h-man. I couldn't believe my eyes when Jester, last man standing, managed to escape several attacks by avoiding them and killed focused fault using crits and fire damage inflicted by them. It was crazy, rng at its purest. I am so glad I was able to make it through this nightmare of a boss, good luck and patience to everyone who are still trying!
I honestly think it's now way shittier than on release. I hate it
This seems much more fair and readable than the last version. Might start taking cracks at the game again, lol.
I finally defeated it, despite the cleave, and some luck with deaths door.
I was doing grand slam(i think that's the english name ) and got to obsession. That day they changed the boss and i was confused because i didnt know about that. Still i beat it. But in ambition my pd was killed one turn before win. Well at least i git 5 memories achivment.
I'm literally the same lol. I walked in doing grand slam with this chapter first because it's the hardest. I came in with guard and no taunt on my maa and got absolutely destroyed. Just beat it though.
@@sparkydl289 right now im trying to beat 5 act with styx flame. Failed 2 times because of dot. I dont have only this achivement slam one, one with all inns, 20000 leagues and anniversary.
@@Kaspar_Ementaller Nice, trying to achievement hunt as well, at 46/65 but a lot of those are easier ones since I haven't played many runs of 1.0. Although I'm missing all the ones you're missing to. Hope they go well.
@@sparkydl289 yes two are just hard while rest take time. Only that inn one is random and i dont know how many inns are in game.
This fight was a dps run. Now its dps AND rng run😢
Beat it on first try after seeing how they changed it through some videos, went with PD, GR, FLAG, and MaA. Blight dots team. It kept targeting my GR but she withstood so many DB.
Shaking in my boots for when i get to this boss the first time.
Personally Grave Robber carried me through this fight. I tried tanking on "traditional" block tanks a few times but they got nuked too hard. However dodge+ carried the day hard against that boss.
Managed to take this one down with a weird build. Flagellant, highwayman, Plague Doc, Jester. First phase I wiped the eyes using magnesium rain with a fully kitted out PD. 12 damage to every eye at once.
After that I just let my toxic flag tank and whittle them down piece by piece
hmm
Can’t wait for wartales ep 2
Same tbh
There is a part around 3:00 which confuses me : "There is no limit to them (seen tokens), so the whole team could stack up to the maximum of four if you are not paying attention". So there is a limit to them ? Or where you talking about something else ? (great video though, thanks for all the tips !)
lol at chat malding in the background.
New version of the boss seems more beatable and less bullshit for your average run, but feels just as bad if not worse when it comes to deathless attempts. It's also still just a damage race. At least phase 1 is a bit more intuitive and won't leave you repeatedly slapping eyes and scratching your head for 10 minutes on your first attempt.
I’ve been trying to find an answer to this. I finished the first phase with only two seen tokens. Focus fault used behold and applied the last two seen tokens to my team so that everyone had a seen token. I lost this run because of this. Is it best to make sure you get 4 tokens before you get to phase two? That kind of sucks if that’s the case.
Also I don’t think you mentioned this but you can get more than 4 seen tokens in this fight.
I love focused fault. Getting crit for 60 is awesome
My strategy for it is that everone have healing item to avoid death doors plus stacking the healing weed
It work trêmndously
POG
Okay so this guy just destroyed my run that was really fun. I had Leper, Occ, GR and Runaway and ran a slow, healing heavy start, not knowing how this fight works. I beat everything nicely and went into the boss full health... And then 2 Limerances later my party was dead. I was so mad. Next time it's going down
Stealth also works btw, Shimmering powder and Runaway went a long way for me.
Works as in to dodge seen tokens or works as in to dodge limerance? If you can evade limerance with stealth then that is definitely pretty good.
@@peco595 No, you can't dodge Limerance with stealth, but it helps with the 1st phases seen tokens, and 2nd phases 'Behold'
@Kasım Yalçınkaya Dang, but yeah still good though
@@peco595 Glad to be of help, good luck with your runs!
I liked the puzzle one better lmao, this is a damage race that just does not allow a single mistake.
Think about the Librarian fight, its a good boss, he doesn't spam burning bright all the time, you have plenty of time to kill him before he destroys the books, etc.
My boi the eie just uses the nuke every single time and you cannot even remove the tokens from your heroes. I was going to use more more with Flagellant, but the little eyes have so much speed that they just went first and immediately used the seen token on my Runaway. Like bruv. This is not even a damage race, you are not racing to kill him before something happens, because that said something happens right away and you cannot do anything about it.
Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk. 😂
I one took this boss by stacking taunts on my flag that also had misstep, literally could not kill my flag and even when my leper got beholded, i was able to burst him down no problem
So,
>you can't taunt anymore in phase 1 and it does absolutely nothing in phase 2
>you can't heal to sustain cause of the debuff
>you can't sustain your characters through positive tokens cause the boss steals them with 30% crit chance
>you can't abuse crits cause that combos your heroes
The only thing you can do is hope for high-rolls in non-crit damage and weaken the boss every round. What the hell sort of boss design is that?
DD1 really made you feel clever when you figured out ONE of the possible counterplays to the boss and got through it, DD2 forces you to pick a line-up that you might not even wanna play with, stick with it for *2.5 hours* just so you can hope to have a chance at the boss. Same with Act 2 and mandatory back-line damage.
You can taunt, the heal debuff is gone, and it's still better to defend yourself than to get hit for full damage lol. I agree with your sentiment of forced team comps though
It's really just Seething Sigh and Focused Fault, the other 3 bosses seem reasonable with a larger variety of compositions.
Hopefully those two see some further changes in the future. I think Focused Fault is very close to being fair, the eyes just need to not be able to ruin your run turn 1 before you have a chance.
Seething Sigh they really just need to either lower the amount of damage needed to knock the wind out of the back lung so Hellion isn't forced, or alternatively just dramatically lower the lung hp altogether so that killing them is a viable strategy.
I know I'm a year late to the party, but is this strategy still the go to one? I've gotten to this fool 3x and just got worked... I love this game but this one is sapping the fun for me.
Huh, I didn’t know they changed it
I didn’t really understand what I was supposed to do in the new version of the fight but all I know is that it is 100 times easier.
What exactly changed?
@@TheGunslinger44 From what I can tell, Limerance does like half the damage now, you can actually control where Seen tokens go, and pretty much every aspect of the boss was nerfed. Which is fine, because it was total bullshit before. I had him come in and two-shot my entire party in the same round by using Limerance twice in a row.
I think it's harder, at least for grand slam ( all 5 confessions with the same team ) runs. Seen mechanic is much more random now, AoE damage output is much higher ( if you knew how to manage old boss seen tokens ) and it's hard to keep up with heals.
@@TheLoaKai i feel like you didnt understood the video, you now have much less control where the tokens go
@@Szczuriusz Didn’t he ignore guard and taunt before?
So now noisemaker is mandatory for this fight cause if you dont have it and you have a slow tank the eyes will target any party member like a rank 4 hero and you cant remove eye tokens any more which will fuck up your fight on turn 1. Somehow this boss fight got more complicated then before. I somewhat figured out what the mechanics were on my second round because of my experience with the game and a bit on how act 5 works is but i dont see anyone finding how to do this on a fresh start without watching a tutorial.
I have beaten this boss twice since the change and both times i got fucked over because i didnt find noisemaker during my runs and both times the first hero they targeted was the rank 4 one. i still beat it because my team was to op for this boss.
I would love the option to choose pre-patch focused fault and new focused fault. I would love to see for myself how BS that original one was.
It was just...MaA, get all the seen tokens on him and pray he gets a couple deaths door saves along with upgraded retreat (33% hp on deaths door)
Original version wasn't BS (also wasn't particularly fun), you just had to know exactly what to do. You couldn't figure it out during the fight, because once you entered phase 2 how well or poorly you did in phase 1 was locked in. If you let more than 2 of your party get the seen token the boss could easily wipe your party within a few rounds with high crit rate (50%+) Limerence for 38ish damage and a stacking healing debuff twice a round to everyone with a seen token.
@@user-cy9vd7rl4h I remember when Limerence crit for 60. Nothing like going in blind and having 3/4ths of the party on death's door the moment phase 2 begins.
This fight wasn’t as hard as I thought it was gonna be. My first time on this version I didn’t really know what I was doing and ended up getting three of my toons marked going into my phase 2. I figured I was screwed when all three were on deaths door by round 2, but by some weird quirk of the cadence of turns I was always able to health them off deaths door before they died. Since my Highwayman was my only attacker it took awhile, but I ended up beating him with no one dying.
That said, I still think this is the worst boss in the game.
I had so much trouble with the act 2 boss for some reason, took me maybe 7-8 runs before getting it. Meanwhile I beat this boss first try before the rework and was wondering what people were talking about when they said this was the hardest boss in the game
If you knew what previous iteration of the boss did, had a good team against him, did not play on harder difficulty and did not get screwed by rng, then previous boss was a breeze. But there are too many ifs.
I had runs where eyes had taken there times to grow and caused my tank to meltdown and runs where 3 dead eyes and 1 stage 1 eye grow to 3rd stage in one round, before my heroes act
I'm glad I don't have to fight this boss ever again this sounds so annoying to deal with
Is this still the current boss?
I honestly cannot remember anymore. I don't think so though
I honestly think dropped the ball with this fight. While they did fix party viability it feels even worse of a damage race now along with seen feeling far less predictable especially when the opening eyes out speed your tanks for taunt or guard. Not to mention the "behold" move applying seen renders the eyestalks phase somewhat moot since that was supposed to be the phase where you get the seen tokens on those you want them on
Had an incredible run at the beginning of a Grand Slam attempt, but PD immediately gets hit with a Seen token in Round 1 of second phase, and we proceed to party wipe. Speed RNG and Seen RNG make this fight absolutely unbearable, even in the revised version.
Also, really not a fan of the fact that it gets a free action at the start of each round. After one hero dies, falling into a loop of Suppress (dazes) and Limerence (cleave damage) is all but a guaranteed wipe.
So the deal is not using dismas
You could if you don't upgrade take aim which is kinda funky lol. Or spam guard him.
This video will be obsolete in a few days when they update the fight again. The devs seems to not know what do to with their game
It's still terrible design imo. Why the 3rd boss is still harder and unfun than 4 and 5, I'll have no idea
Ugh I hate this boss. If you just get unlucky and aren’t able to taunt the eyes in time and they see your healer you’re just screwed and you can’t do anything about it. I hate it
Bless red hook for actually addressing player complaints. Like, they reworked the boring boss everyone hated.
Guide is kinda difficult to understand. Need a better video showdown.
Love the guide but need to remind folks that deathblow is a fake stat and shouldn’t be prioritized, spend your resources on things to prevent you from hitting DD, not to chill there for longer
idk how u guys but i like old mechanic better
A much needed rework
Apparently I'm in the minority, but I feel that this new version is way worse than the original fight.
agree with that. I've gone through all the chapters on every character on no death and I have to say that the current version is by far the hardest and has the highest RNG factor. It will probably take another month for casual players to come to the same conclusion.
I don't like it either personally
I was going for deathless achievement, and when I stumbled upon new mechanics, and the fact you can only rely on RNG now (well, sort of), the Focused Fault boss fight is achievement killer at the moment, if you just happened to get seen token on someone wrong from the start of the fight.
And as I noticed, many people don’t like it.
@@emdeeee Casuals aren’t going to be replaying act 3, or if they do they won’t be trying to do something like the grand slam where bad rng can really screw you over. The biggest complaint from casual players with act 3 is that phase one is too unintuitive and frustrating, which this rework does fix, albeit while creating a bunch of new problems.
@@0life365 Yes, that's right too. The main problem in the fight are still Dodge tokens, in this current version more than ever because you can no longer remove an eye mark.
You want to develop a good relationship with other characters and that should never be a disadvantage.
In addition, more eye tokens will be distributed in the 2nd phase, although no party member has died. The fight is now pure chaos when trying to get through no death. All previous versions (tauntable, non-tauntable, etc.) were better imo.
so what actually changed? i dont get it, this boss is just stupid, if you cant get the 4 tokens on the tank its GG and you have no way of knowing that your first time so theres two 4-5 hour runs just to discover this gimmick, its just too dependant on phase 1, it feels unfair when the mechanics are not clearly explained and you have to invest several hours just to try again just to be punished if you fail in phase 1... the real boss is the little eyes it just doesnt make sense
But at least killing the eyes to trigger phase 2 is much more intuitive than letting them grow to final forms.
I think you misunderstood; the max on *one hero* is four seen tokens. In phase 2, the boss will happily apply seen tokens to the rest of your party even if you already have 4 tokens across the party - that's why taunt is still useful in phase 2 (you want it to apply the seen tokens to the people who already have them, rather than your squishy characters). The fight is totally different from the pre-patch version because of this change, allowing phase 2 to keep applying new seen tokens.
@@dylanboczar999 Also unlike prepatch now the fault doesn't reduce healing with limerenc. The fight is still a damage race but yeah big diff
People saying that this version is harder than previous one clearly havent fought focused fault before xd This boss used to destroy god runs, no matter how flawless your game was, if the rng decided you were gone , it waa sleep time
They just cant make it good
all I've gotta say is this version is infinitely worse. they need to fix it again. its got good things going for it but overall an overwhelmingly negative experience. the other bosses feel like a fun challenge, even seething sigh but this new version of focused fault is just not fun at all. the puzzle was more fun to figure out. i mainly think the new first phase is just ass, but the new second phase i don't think is all that horrible.
Me: ok so i need to taunt.
*Dose so*
Boss lands 3 back to back crits, my tank and healer now has 3x eye dots. Only killed 1 eye turn one. Taunt was on cooldown after, boss proceeds to put four dots on every character because cooldown.
*Uninstalls darkest dungeon 2*
Honest thats 3 wipes to act 3... Wtf am I meant to do? I cant keep sinking hours into to this game. The most annoying thing is every guide every build every tip everything out there it's f*cking useless, this game fills way out of tuned now. Dev needed their game to be so hard they nuked everything about it.
I'll have something new in a few days. This boss has been reworked like 4 times so it's hard to keep info relevant
@@ShuffleFM
Thought I'll tell you I managed to beat it mainly thanks to getting a stagecoach item that a produced shadow powder. Had like 2 equipped. Let me "heal" the tokens before the real fight. Still lost a Jester tho...
That's still a W!