Why NIKE Needs to Change || Mary Cain, Alberto Salazar, The Nike Oregon Project
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Mary Cain is widely known for her track and field dominance in high school. Soon after high school, Cain joined the premiere running group in the United States: The Nike Oregon Project.
What seemed to be a perfect match of talent and running expertise obviously wasn't, as Cain recently explained in an interview with the New York Times that her time with the Oregon Project was devastating to her mind, body, and outlook on life.
We need to support our female athletes, and it all starts with Nike.
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As a runner it makes you uncomfortable to now that there are so many doping issues. Thanks for the vid!
There's a line where gamesmanship crosses in to deviance and I think Alberto has crossed that line
That's assuming he ever cared where the line was in the first place.
The crazy thing is that my track team and I saw Mary Caim filming this. We show up near the end when she's with some fans with her arms around them.
This is a bit of a mammoth post, but I've had a lot of thoughts on the topic lately so thank you for bearing with me. Thanks for making this video and bringing the issue more to light. Honestly I'd love for you to do a whole series breaking down each part of the story/investigation. From what I've gathered, entrusting Salazar with the NOP was such a colossal mistake not only for Nike and their athletes but for the whole sport. He instituted a toxic culture where winning mattered more than health and where manipulating the rules to gain an advantage undermined the spirit of competition and fair play. It's crazy it's taken Nike this long to shut it down, especially since it's been going on for YEARS and multiple athletes have spoken out (watch the 2015 BBC hour-long documentary "Catch me if you can"). Salazar hasn't admitted he did wrong because he genuinely believes that manipulating the rules to one's advantage is simply part of what it takes to play the game and win at the highest level. And he was meticulous in covering his tracks (which I believe is why the AAA only gave him a 4-year suspension instead of a lifetime ban). The only thing Salazar admits to is testing testosterone gel on his sons to see how much they could take before testing positive. He claims it's part of a "counter-sabotage" strategy in case an opponent tries to rub cream on one of his athletes - and this coming from the same coach who once called a massage therapist in Utah to retrieve a tube of Androgel (a banned cream) from his team's cabin, claiming it was for his personal heart condition, which as BBC went on to investigate, no sane cardiologist would ever prescribe Androgel to someone with his condition. The team doctor - who is supposed to be impartial and seeking to promote the athletes' health - was also a paid consultant for Nike. That's such a blatant conflict of interest, are you kidding me!? And Salazar figured out from this doctor what it would take to get particular prescriptions as TUEs so he would prep his athletes to do and say specific things before and during the medical visit. For example with inhalers - he would have them run into an exercise-induced asthma attack right before running up the stairs to the medical visit. Then once the inhaler was acquired, he told athletes to IGNORE the prescribed dosage and increase their dosage to such unhealthy levels that one athlete even developed a mouth fungus. It's one thing to use a TUE to get healthy and put oneself back on an even playing field with competitors, but Salazar didn't view it this way. Overusing an inhaler can actually help you run faster, and the adverse side effects of the TUE are simply part of sacrificing one's body in order to "be the best". Of course the doctor couldn't be the one telling the athletes to do this as it would clearly be medically unsound and incriminating. When USADA conducted its investigation they found that many of the medical records had been altered by the doctor after the fact, claiming he conducted additional tests that we know from the athletes' copies of their medical records, never happened. Sorry for the long rambling post. I hope you make more videos explaining what happened.
Finally, someone who actually has been following what is going on. This didn't just start happening. Athletes have known that Salazar is suspect. If you start training with him you are suspect. Galen Rup, Mo Farah sorry guys. You may be clean but....Will Nike really change? Do they have to change? They are the Olympic apparel sponsor. They make a lot of the rules. This is what winning at any cost looks like.
Also if you are a female distance runner who has run as a sport you know that coaches prescribe to the philosophy that thin is good but thinner is better. Look at the amount of injuries and type of injuries that female distance athletes experience. Most of those injuries are related to over-training (Jordan Hassay). In order to change you have to first admit that the problem has always existed. It didn't just start w/Mary Cain. Groucher came forward years ago and finally people are listening and possibly believing.
Tyler Walton thank you ☺️
Right after I watched Mary Cain’s video I knew you would make this video
Salazar has been doping his athletes for years, which is why any athlete associated with him - including Mo Farah - should receive serious investigation. The fact that Mo Farah went from an at-best 8th place finisher, switched coaches, and then became virtually unbeatable after switching to Salazar makes almost any legitimate athlete part of the sport leery of his results.
Farah is an interesting case, he was never implicated in the USADA decision like Galen was but he is also associated with Jama Aden prior to his EPO bust... He keeps a lot of suspicious company.
There is also the fact that in farah's time all the good runners either retired or went marathon.. he didn't have to compete against kipchoge, bekele, gebresalassie enz.. The times he won in were well significantly weaker then what was required to win in previous years. This was probably a bigger factor then whatever drugs farah got.
@Salvador Luna bekele was struggling with injuries at the time though..
Stopped buying Nike already. Currently in the market for some Hoka shoes. Will never run in Nike shoes ever again.
maxscriptguru enjoy being slow
Nike Pegs stink and their trail shoes do too. I do like the Epic reacts. The carbon fiber plated shoes should be banned. That is cheating too.
I think HOKA is an excellent choice. I personally own trail running shoes and I couldn’t be happier with them. What’s better? The fact that there isn’t a cloud of controversy surrounding HOKA. I’m a huge fan of athletes sponsored by HOKA especially in the trail running scene. Not saying all Nike sponsored athletes are bad. In fact, I’m a huge fan of Sally McRae who is sponsored by Nike Trail. She is an amazing person.
I saw the Mary Cain video, and really appreciate you making this. I totally agree with what you said.
The only thing that would make them change is a falling bottom line. In Cain's video she's still wearing their shoes. Free advertising won't send them a negative message.
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It's always been win at all costs for them, it starts with Cap at the top but Salazar has shown no remorse for anything he has done and appears to believe he is still in the right. Nike's response to Mary Cain was to blame her more than they held Salazar accountable... That from the same company who has stuck by Lance and Justin Gatlin... It's clear that they don't care about a clean sport... Or the health of their athletes. Great vid, we share the same opinion here.
Im a 15 year old living in Ireland, I have been following athletics over the year or so. I thought at first the Nike Oregan Project was clean the fact is it isn't and the mistreating of woman is unjust and they loss their wages when they're pregnant. Its a disgrace and something needs to change.
I believe Alberto salzar should be banned for longer and so should people who associated with him should be banned to
These videos needed to be made
Now I have a good excuse to switch to Adidas.
Lol, there are no good guys here mate
Nike isn't the only one it's all the top teams!
I totally agree. Any doping violation should merit a lifetime ban.
Bro make something on josh methner and he's insane
Would love to see him up against Nico Young.
Josh methner went around 4:26 first mile and 9:12 2 mile and then ran course record and #2 3 mile 13:49.9
He's gonna wreck nick young. My brother ran in the same state race and I talked to josh
it's unbelievable that nowadays, athletes are getting tested randomly. and still can get trough the system. the positive test on galen rupp rases suspicion on me that maybe mo farah also took drugs. i would rather not think that, but we need to look at the facts. it could have happened
thanks for your thoughts on this crucial topic
I have nothing more to add other than an opinion about Nike. Nike is a shoe/apparel sponsor and don't think they are to blame for this.
That is such a sad story. I've never understood how a coach or boss feels public embarrassment will improve a persons attitude and work ethic.
Very well said!
Great video!! In Europe we have huge problems with doping scandals in cycling, I know that in your country that’s the same for American football and basketball, what we can do is to boycott Nike, first and let see action after from their part
Would you go back and revise your rating of Farah and Rupp?
this is the best description to cross my screen so far. Very good communication skills. As for Salazar, the ban pretty much says it. The testosterone evidence is clear. As for Cain, i hope she can regroup, retrain, and return....Kate Grace is 33 and improving each day. Cain should have a fine future...
Prior to 2021, the detection time for maintenance microdosing of EPO was 12 to 18 hours, according to a paper in 2011. Altitude confounds the athlete biological passport which requires all 3 experts to agree, and athletes can miss 2 tests per year. It's a recipe for rampant EPO use. Detection is now 24 to 72 hours for maintenance microdosing, if the newer method is used.
Great job Andrew...well done...
Nice video, this is about running community, this is about being human beings, about us.
Do you have the links to the videos and articles with Allyson Felix and Alisia Montano?
Sleep is better than doping
Phil heath literally just be sleeping on everybody
Ronnie Coleman be sleeping 23 hours a day
This is an excellent report and I encourage you to follow up. I'm undecided on some of what you said...except for Nike, you're right about them. Never trusted Nike, ever. As for Salazar, I saw him whip everybody when he was just 19 and I was like 14...a quiet, and unassuming young man...it's hard to believe he would have been deeply involved in cheating. Not condoning if it's true but it is easy to look the other way when you really love the folks you are coaching and know your competition will do just about anything to win. There is also the issue of what constitutes what should be illegal as far as substances...it's philosophically and scientifically not clear-cut at all, although synthetically and artificially induced hormones, I agree, bad news for all sports.
This is killing me. I really enjoyed watching Mary Cain when she was in high school. I believe her story is 100% true and accurate. And it does feel like there is a lot of bad news with regards to Nike. I also posted a video on the subject. I'd like to point out that the Nike Bowerman Track Club has not had nearly the same issues as the Nike Oregon Project with arguably similar success at the very highest level within our sport.
As someone who has watched Alberto and NOP from a middling-distance (appropriate as I am an 800 guy lol), all I can say is "Birds of a feather!". Drama attracts drama and begets more drama. And Adam and Kara were a major part of that dynamic from the word "go".
Notice how BTC doesn't have any of this garbage? If you were to meet both Alberto and Jerry for a few minutes, as I have, you wouldn't be surprised at all in the contrast.
Totally agree!
thank you for posting this video. i’m glad females aren’t the only ones advocating for ourselves. i appreciate you as do all other women on here!
If you can't beat them, join them.
Great video and review of the situation. You researched this issue very thoroughly.
Every big sport company has its corruptions and oversites. Nike knows their reputation will be tarnished when the evidence against the selected professional runners has been proven. It will be perceived as a company that endorses such illegal. Like many comparacies, they will do anything avoid scrutiny. It would also destroy T&Fs authenticity. In any major corporation, it comes down to money at any cost ocer the well-being of their athletes running on the edge regularily.
That said, you are absolutely right, Nikeneeds a change
Otherwise, we can safely forsee its demise in the next 5 years or after the 2020 Olympics.
Female athletes of alllevels should definotely be given more respect and equal treatment. Furthermore, the more they speak-up= the greater the awareness.
The problem is they are given equal treatment. Train a women to run 14 minute 5k the same way to treat a man. Oh you're expecting a child, good for you keep training 100% like the men do when they've got a baby on the way.
Good video, and I agree with you, but are you wearing a Nike shirt? Is that a swoosh on your sleeve?
Agree with the video but. Where the pictures man
Maybe after AS had his heart attack, it had a detrimental affect on his judgement/decision making. We are discussing a person who almost killed himself after setting a Boston Marathon record b/c he did not slow down for rehydration. Been pushing the limits with PEDs & Training & psychological manipulation for years. Same issues identified here by Cain, were noted in UO women’s track/XC team wrt weight. The women were practically starving themselves and overtraining to meet the light weight mold. UO coaches did the same thing in other sports where weight was crucial part of performance.
A 4 year ban ? Salazar should be in prison for what he did to Mary Cain.
We can learn more exact something from this video than from media
2 questions: 1) If Nike is all capitalism, as some comments suggest, why are there products (particularly the vapor fly series) changing the game in technology for runners? 2) What pregnant woman is going to run a race on the championship level, regardless of what trimester she is in? Even if it is comfortable alongside the changes in her body during pregnancy, it is pretty rough on the baby. Being athletic while pregnant is one thing, but competition at that level is tough on any fit person, let alone someone with child. My wife is very competitive, and barely enjoyed casual sport while carrying either of our kids. Just saying, we're being rather quick to pass judgement on an entire company based on a small handful of situations. It shouldn't represent our opinion of everyone in Oregon.
imagine this dude explaining wtf just happened
Zero tolerance is the only answer. This goes for athletes as well as coaches.
As long as human beings are flawed, they will find a way to cheat in order to reach their goals. We do not need flawed athletes and coaches in our sport. We are talking about personal integrity and honor. What has one gained if cheating is used to reach one's goals? . . . nothing! Winning by all costs is not winning . . . it's losing.
ZERO TOLERANCE
Nike should stand tall and make financial restitution to the athletes who have had their lives and/or careers ruined by the Oregon Project.
Well said bro
My first reaction to the Mary Cain video was: "Spoiled little rich girl who has never had to deal with adversity who has a victim mentality." If she did not like Alberto Salazar's program she was free to go elsewhere. We ourselves, own ourselves. My second thought was to consider the adversity Mary Keitany had to deal with in order to become successful. From the recent New York Times article about her: "Every day, Keitany would walk two kilometers carrying a pail, hoisting her scrawny body uphill to retrieve water from a nearby river for cooking and drinking. A donkey would have eased the demanding effort, but it was an inconceivable expense for her parents, Juda and Jane Chepkeitany, both farmers. They had no electricity, sometimes little food, and not nearly enough money for a pair of shoes to protect Keitany’s feet as she ran 10 kilometers each way to Country Blue Primary School. Keitany realized she was a naturally gifted runner, but with no means to pay secondary school fees, she accepted an offer to move in with a family in the area who had hired her to work as a live-in servant and to care for three children, all younger than 7. Her days were filled with getting them ready for school in the morning, making batches of ugali, an African cornmeal porridge, washing the family’s clothes, scrubbing dishes and keeping the house clean. The agenda as caretaker left no time for running." Mary Keitany's story could have ended quite a bit differently if she had adopted the victim mentality so popular in the US these days. While I am certain many beneficial changes could be made in women's athletics, I am equally certain that our female athletes have it pretty good overall, and that Nike and Alberto Salazar are not the devil. The fact that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to kick Nike and Salazar while they are down displays a herd mentality of everyone jumping clamoring onto the bandwagon without taking any time to seriously consider that things are never all one way or the other.
This is a false equivalence. Mary Cain was an elite athlete when she joined NOP. It is commendable that Ms. Keitany was able to overcome adversity and have success. That does not mean that Mary Cain has to be silent and that Nike can engage in unethical practices to win at all costs.
@@janenoviello5715 Sure, everyone who desires to tell their story or express their opinion is free to do so, including Ms. Cain.
So because one person lived a hard life Mary Cain can’t talk about what happened to her under Salazar? This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. “I was abused by this person” “think of this other person who was raised in poverty” it makes no sense. You talk about the victim mentality and then you say “oh don’t come for poor Salazar when he’s down” your comment is dumb and to be honest you’re probably dumb too.
I don't know about the banning for life. Seems a little too harsh in my opinion. Perhaps a ban for 5-7 years.
Good that you gave your take on this. It's very interesting. At the end of the day, I don't think this is going to affect Nike all that much, unfortunately. But we'll see.
It's better when you talk to the camera like this
The scary thing is that Salazar is not alone. Someone is behind him, when we say Nike, someone big has to be held accountable. Its unfair to all the clean hardworking athletes - Amateur and pros alike that they're competing against cheaters. I really believe Salazar is guilty of all charges, so the investigation should dig deeper to find the real responsible (s).
It’s going to end up hurting the athletes, particularly women. Nike, the major sponsor, will withdraw some or all of its support from the sport and other companies will be hesitant to make the commitment.
Her video was on-point and kudos to her for having the courage to speak so frankly and honestly about the subject. I'm going to be straight up about this. I do not believe Mo Farah is a clean athlete. I accept that I don't know it as fact, and maybe he is clean, but on balance, looking at his career trajectory, he magically became *unbeatable* soon after his association with Salazar. This is not typically how a star is born, and it was quite similar to how Lance Armstrong went from being one of the guys in the pack to suddenly being the best at everything (time trials to mountain climbing). To be fair though, doping is almost certainly not just limited to one bad coach and one bad program, and is likely still a systemic problem within the sport.
ps.Very sobering video that reveals the ugly truth of drug abuse/corruption in Kenya th-cam.com/video/J0ej5k_SxUs/w-d-xo.html
well done I am glad to see the truth finally coming out
(Here is my story. I know that it is much too long for the average TH-camr, but this is a very important topic.)
Rule 1#: Take control of your life.
Rule 2#: Mary Cain and Kara Goucher could never become Navy SEALS or Army Rangers.
Being the best of the best is hard. Very, very hard. But, it is the hard that makes it good. If it wasn’t so damn hard anyone could do it.
As a former CAT II cyclist I was introduced to EPO in 2001. Who is responsible from that point on? Am I being forced to take this wonder drug? Am I being stopped from reading about the risk factors listed on this drug? Do I not have the gift of reason?
It always boils down to the pressures of performance. I was curious about why I was being dropped by cyclists that I would normally destroy. Subsequently, I was getting cut from my teams. I could not make a team that hired 25 cyclists. Any team.
It was the performance enhancing substances. Absolutely. Besides, my fellow pros gave compelling testimony to how well they were riding after being on a PED/blood transfusion protocol. I asked one guy why I use to drop him on every climb, and now he glides past me effortlessly. He was unambiguous. He was on a PED program. I heard this time and again.
From that point on it was up to me as to the path that I wanted to take. Clean, or dirty. God-given abilities maximized, or, biological assistance-monetarily rewarded.
In other words, it was a decision between making my living at cycling, or finding a real job. In the mid-1990’s until 2003-ish drug usage was as much a part of professional cycling as hill repeats and 500 mile training weeks among the top pros (guys with contracts).
But, the real issue is morality. We all have the ability to take the correct path. Cyclists are always obsessing about their body weight. If I did not weigh 165lbs the morning of a race I would stress out. My confidence would be shaken.
Do I blame my wife for baking that cake that I helped myself to 3 helpings of? Do I sue McDonalds for forcing quarterpounders down my throat?
It is your brain that controls your hand that is responsible for cramming things into your pie hole. It is your emotions that are responsible for how you react to over bearing coaches, or the pressures of performance (registering 400 watts for 30 minutes was a minimal requirement to even be considered for Team Postal Service. Try it sometime. Hold an 85 cadence for 5 minutes and you are a special athlete. But, it is the end of the line if you are trying to make a team.)
Nike does what Nike does. If you are ok with it, and you find success, than it is good. You are benefiting from the association. You are a Navy SEAL. An Army Ranger. You have what it takes. You handled the “abuse”. In fact, you used it to excel where most others failed.
If it bothers you, and you realize that Nike is not practicing their trade within a Fascist society, than your ability to reason will tell you to go elsewhere. You do not have what it takes to be a SEAL. You will never wear that Ranger hat. Deal with it. Don’t go crying about how mean your instructors were.
It is you, Mary Cain, that did not have what it takes to be a Salazar athlete. That is ok. Very few are. Find another coach, and stop burning bridges on your way out.
And yet it is Salazar with a 4 year ban. As you point out, when you break the rules, it becomes a question of morality. And it also corrupts a sport that people love and dedicate their lives to. You should not have had to take substances that could have a detrimental effect in the long term to be competitive. There should be a zero tolerance for doping in sports. Period.
I 100 percent agree with you,if you are caught using any bad substances once,you should be baned from the sport for life.
Excellent video! Very well articulated. You helped congeal my conclusions. Though I’d like to believe Roberto (wondering why he would resort to cheating is mind numbing), I find it almost impossible to think that all these very well respected athletes are lying. Sadly, money has served as a corrupting influence. Pre is rolling over in his grave. Very sad.
Wait was Galen Rupp cheating??
The thing is that Nike employs super high end statisticians and accountants. The long term financial profit coming in from constant recurring media coverage of scandals, doping, cheating outweighs the short term shadows of winter ! I mean people still talking about Lance Armstrong and the views and opinions on him has switched . Gatlin got busted for amphetamines and then for testo and raised suspicions afterwards. Still with Nike, people love him ! Salazar and his athletes are shady today, but laughing in 5 years on the whole thing. Every time you got a google hit or a written article on Salazar, the word Nike pops up, that brings money. Type in doping, Nike pops up. Type in shoes, Nike pops up ! Nike, Nike, Nike !
I mean bad news are the best marketing tool ever. Who are the best youtubers ? Who create a show of controversy ! Pepsi consumptions increased against coka, when Tyson got cut from the relation. Tesla accidents and all the failures during the development and business process create a fantastic media campaign together with weirdness and mind of Elon. Tesla sells !
It might be not planned ahead in case of doping and Nike, but by experience from multiple decades, they know, that nothing can happen to them and long term they will come out as a winner and even more profit than before. If A hypothetical brand focused exclusively on running shoes experienced the same, , I mean no apparel and no other sports with no 50+ years history, just high quality running shoes, could have been down on the toilet and bankrupt.
Money talks !!!
Idc what anyone says they all dope. Kipchoge, bekele all of them dope
True
I’m still buying hella Air Max’s and going to run in Pegs. Y’all can be mad if you want 🤷🏼♂️
Spot on. The fact of the matter is that Nike makes the best products and has the top athletes. Period, end of story. They could care less what you think. I’m still a loyal customer and will continue to buy Nike because they are the best.
People, if you don’t want to compete at the top, don’t. It’s professional track for a reason.
I’m not mad LOL running in zoom fly fks and peg turbos as we speak lmao
My personal thought is companies like Nike should stop paying coaches.... I'll use Nike's name but they are not the only ones.. While the coaches are getting paid by the likes of Nike, Some coaches will do whatever it takes to get results and get paid.. this comes at the cost of the athletes cause there is always another athlete wanting that spot on the team.. Nike should be funding the athlete.. The athlete should have the power of who they say gets paid to coach them.. So in this case it would give Mary (the talented athlete) the power to say this is wrong and take her funding from Nike elsewhere. I bet there's a dozen top coaches that would love to coach her.. However she is put it to a system where she has no say in what goes on... give the power to the athlete... Support the athlete.. let the athletes decide which are the good coaches and get rid of the ones out for fame and name... And on the topic of drugs -- It's a LIFE sentence!!!!
Good thing I never bought any of that Oregon project merch! Phew
Ethan Chambers it’s more valuable now if you have it tho...limited supply
It's SIR Mo Farah
Nike is a capitalistic corporation greedy for cheap marketing, BUT parents who send a 17yr old to an elite level training camp, happily cash the checks for 3yrs are greedy as well. Poor girl caught in the middle. Salazaar was just doing his job, maximizing the output of his athletes under the program.
Say *no* to Nike.
This is a grotesque mischaracterization.
Galen Rupp’s test results did not show high levels of testosterone. The controversy surrounded a notation that read “testosterone medication.” Rupp and Salazar maintained that this was a supplement intended to elevate natural levels of testosterone. Also, I can’t help but point out that the photo you used was cropped to obscure the word “medication”, just leaving the word “testosterone”.
Alberto Salazar was not sanctioned for providing or administering any banned substance to any athlete. Use of the word “doping” in this context is misleading in the extreme.
The arbitration panel that issued his sanction said this: “... the Respondent [Salazar] does not appear to have been motivated by any bad intention to commit the violations the Panel found. In fact, the Panel was struck by the amount of care generally taken by Respondent [Salazar] to ensure that whatever new technique or method or substance he was going to try was lawful under the World Anti-Doping Code, with USADA’s witness characterizing him as the coach they heard from the most with respect to trying to ensure that he was complying with his obligations.”
www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/Salazar-AAA-Decision-1.pdf
No coach at the Nike Oregon Project has ever been sanctioned for providing or administering any banned substance to any athlete. No NOP athlete has ever been sanctioned for using any banned substance.
Mary Cain May be an outlier, but she is by no means unique. The “culture” will change when female distance runners are awarded medals for reproductive health instead of speed.
They didn’t care about her wellbeing at all? It’s this kind of statements that cause people to lose credibility.
Believe in nike. Even if it means sacrificing your honor.
TriumphAthletics What?
Yo they should make a race where you can do as many steroids as you want
There should be a dope-lympics where you can use anything you want. This will lead to quick times and will be entertaining. The human limits will be shown.
We already have that.
Bluepumaknee cap that would lead to a lot of deaths
I don't think there's anything unfair about their pregnancy policies. Being pregnant is not good for your performance, it's a choice you make yourself. You can be a mother, or you can be a top athlete. Not both. For a while at least. Just take a year off.
@Johannes Kokozela Because women get pregnant. Men don't have that choice.
It's their own choice. A choice with consequences.
It's like women in the normal workforce who get a baby, then work 20 hours a week but still demand the same pay and that promotion. You can't have both. It's your choice.
What if a woman decides to have three kids in a row? I think we can agree that will pretty much ruin her athletic career, but Nike should still sponsor her?
There is another option. Denial. Living a double life splits one's mind. AAA, HGH and EPO are a must. High profile athletes use very expensive high-purity meds which cannot be detected shortly after application, samles get substituted, people are easily corrupted. Everybody knows, it's a game of double standards. Think 50-s, that's the real level of non-enhanced performance.
I still don’t think it’s a problem with Nike because bowerman running smooth (I think)
You’re gonna be banning A LOT of athletes because at the very pinnacle of this sport, most athletes are on several forms of performance enhancers. I get the point of this video and agree that women need to be better protected in this male dominated system, but to think that some of the athletes in the sport are on gear and some aren’t when their times are extremely close (Mo/Galen/Yomif) is not smart.
They’re ALL on it.
Aden Fischer , you are absolutely correct. At the very top, they are all on PEDS. No iffs ands or buts.
"Now after Farah won gold there wasn't any immediate concern".....not sure that's true, in fact there were a lot more raised eyebrows about Farah in Europe before he won in London. The same goes for all of Salazar athletes and Salazar himself.
I'm not entirely sure Cains complaints are all that as it seems either. I haven't seen the clip but to be fair to coaches their job is to get results, if the athlete isn't at the desired weight or doing their bit well then tough shit. Am I supposed to feel sorry for somebody trying to become the best athlete in the world who is called out for being overweight? She's upset. Fine....leave, the top level isn't for you if that sort of stuff is too much. By all means clamp down on cheaters and drug use, go hard, but any ancillary shit coming out about being mean to athletes, I couldn't care less. Their gender is entirely irrelevant, and I really don't see why women need to be treated with kid gloves or that men somehow don't need to have some sort of minimum fiduicary care for their welfare. This white knight ideal helps nobody.
Athletes need to unionise just like the Nike factory workers!
Nike gear is made in Asian sweat shops. Boycott Nike.
No
Lmao, all the running TH-camrs jumping on the bandwagon.
No one cares. Most intelligent people have enough common sense to know that nobody at the top is completely clean. Nike isn’t doing anything that everybody else isn’t doing.
Don’t want to compete at the top level? Don’t compete. Nobody held a gun to her head. It’s PROFESSIONAL TRACK. Not high school or AAU. If you want to get to the top, there is a price you have to pay. If you honestly believe the running records were set clean, you are very naive.
You can be decent clean, but as far as making it to the very top, records, medals, big $, if you don’t dope you won’t cope. It’s that plain and simple. WTF up, and accept reality.
I say just let everyone do whatever drugs they want. People watch baseball to see people hit 500 ft bombs. People watch running to see people run fast. Anything that enables people running faster is an overall net positive.
That is a terrible idea. You're either stupid or trolling.
Great plan. Inhumane time would be crazy to watch.
Kevin Dehler I would say go for it besides the fact it’s dangerous for the athletes to do these drugs. So because it’s dangerous I would say it should stay illegal