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Richard Harris, knowing that some of the kids would die, Knowing that if anyone of the kids dies his reputation and career as a doctor would finished. But also knowing that this was their only chance so he did it anyway. That’s a hero
Dr. Richard Harris had the hardest decision to make, they were running out of time, explored all other options, and he and the divers knew the boys would die trying to dive them out. As a retired critical care nurse we are given alot more autonomy in these units and while we are not Dr.s, we do give alot of major drugs IV push, so you better have the right drug in that syringe, once it's in you can't get it out. I can only imagine how difficult that decision was for him, medically and emotionally for him and all the divers. Happy the Thia government gave him immunity. An amazing man indeed. 😊
The Australian Government had some agreement with Thai government that he wouldn't face any legal retaliation if something went wrong, it was the only chance those kids had.
Not true at all. It was the only option left for them. Their lives were on the line. Nobody's reputation would have been harmed if anything went wrong. Total bs buddy!!!
This was a great explanation. It's interesting, because I'm a hospital porter, working full-time nights. We frequently have to take dead patients to the mortuary, my record is 8 in one shift. There's no mortuary staff at night, so we are responsible for the whole trip from bed to fridge. 'A package to be safely delivered' is exactly how we treat our deceased patients, and this is how I train new porters to think about it. I tell them that it's a privilege to be trusted with this responsibility. Takes the spookiness out of it, and promotes professionalism.
The more I research on incidents like this the more I see the distancing from rescuers. I think you need to have that disconnect in order to stay calm and do your job every day. Thanks for sharing
I'm scrolling to see how long the two submerged sections were. 1 mile in but if there was half a mile of submerged section they would have been doomed. But a diver died in the tightest deepest section. A few hundred metres??
@@waterlinestoriesI'm scrolling to see how long the two submerged sections were. 1 mile in but if there was half a mile of submerged section they would have been doomed. But a diver died in the tightest deepest section. A few hundred metres??
So true. My heart went out to the Thai Diver that died saving these boys. I am not sure what the man's religion was And i hope i word this in the right way. This man will be welcomed in his religion's heaven with a shouts of praise. As will the other Thai Diver that dies 18 months later due a infection he got during the rescues.
Jesus, so many things that could've went terribly wrong. But they all did their job, calm cool professionals and achieved what seemed impossible, got all of them out safe and sound!
One thing for sure - Thailand is a country who takes great stock in their young champions - and this great feat of all who participated says a lot - i think the farmers made one of the greatest sacrifices, along with the doctors (divers) and the governor who had the last word - and of course those who lost their lives....
Can't even lie. This story always makes me cry. Humans and nations have done some absolutely terrible things throughout history, but getting together to save these boys against all odds restores some hope for us.
Completely misleading information MAKSYM-POLEJ U know this name? Google it and his beat Friend who really laid the line, the r3d carpet as the Brits stated... So sad this false info...
The coach did a great job keeping the boys spirits up with meditation, prayer and a regular roaster for digging, without him they could have lost hope. Everyone involved in the rescue was fearless and they thought out-side the box to solve a complex problem. If you haven't watched the "13 Lives" movie, you should it is extremely well done and shows how hard it was it get these 13 wonderful people out of a life and death situation.
Yeah and he also did a "great" job being so immature and stupid to bring these kids into that cave. The coach was the adult who brought these kids into that situation in the first place.
@@sassbrat Everyone with a working mature brain knows how dangerous caves can be, especially when you have absolutely no clue about them. Especially when you have caves that are partially filled with water. It is his fault for not looking up and inform himself about possible dangers.
@@sebasstein7014 I'm not saying that it was his fault 100 percent, yes he should have known better but again the monsoon came eailer then normal as stated so he was going on that it would be safe for the kids to explore for a little bit.
The boys saying that the ones who live farthest from the cave should go out first because they have a longer bike ride home , just shows you how caring and helpful Thai people really are , and a great job done by everybody involved from all around the world , thankyou very much to all of them for saving these young boys lives
It’s kids trying to have some control in a situation where they have almost none. It was kind of the divers to not change the order the boys picked. Poor little buggers, they must of been scared sh-tless in there.
According to the podcast "Against the Odds," the rescuers tasked the coach with deciding the order in which to evacuate the boys. They wanted the strongest (meaning faring the best given the circumstances) boys out first. The coach thought about how he would explain his choice to the kids, and that's what he came up with.
It's really refreshing to see so many divers from so many different governments (regardless of world tensions) arriving together to help. In the end, they chose their professions to help save lives. Whatever their political loyalties, they have my respect for that.
Had only known a handful of details of the rescue mission prior to watching this, the mission was far more intricate, larger and dangerous than I could of imagined. Interesting you touched on the local legal aspect of it, something normally not mentioned, but was a potential nightmare in waiting for those involved. Huge respect to everyone involved, from divers, caterers, farmers and everything in-between, and of course to those that tragedy did strike. Thank you for covering this story.
This was an incredible story that really showcases the selflessness and heroism of everyone from the foreign volunteer rescue divers, to the Thai Seals, the farmers that sacrificed their harvest, and the countless other rescue personel and volunteers.
Thank you for acknowledging the 10000s of people involved in providing the broader infrastructure that enabled this rescue mission to happen as well as the people at the heart of this mission. I had no appreciation for the logistics that is even needed in theses kinds of missions. Your videos certainly broaden my perspective. Thank you so much.
This was a really good explanation of the issues with getting the boys out. I would love to learn more about the specifics of each dive out, and the drama at the end when the pumps stopped working.
I’ve watched several documentaries covering this rescue but imo this was by far the best. It clarified several points that were unclear to me. Extremely well done!
The level of complexity that it took to do this was logistically a nightmare. Ive watched missions that were FAR less technically complex fall apart because of one failure in the chain of events. But this was NEXT LEVEL. The staggering amount of things that had to go right to pull this off was just daunting, but everyone involved were able to pull this off without a hitch. This is truly a miracle. It makes you proud to be human when you witness what we can accomplish together when we are all fighting towards the same goal instead of letting our differences come between us and divide us. From those that fed the thousands, pumped water, set up lighting, coordinated communications, scuba gear, countless air tanks, harnesses, equipment, medical, safety, climbing gear, and more it was truly special to witness.
I know Rick Stanton, we are in the same dive shop. You get to talk to him when he nips in to refill his bottles, he is a wealth of knowledge. We all asked him what went on, some of the details you wouldn’t have known as it wasn’t published. What they tried to get them out was brave and the only option. None of the three blokes were prepared to let the kids die. I have done every type of diving in my life, but I will not do cave diving after becoming disoriented on a cave dive once. Those three who did the swim-throughs could have died at any moment had one of the kids had an issue once sedated. The rescue divers are a special breed of crazy.
If it weren't for Vern, Rick, John & Dr Richard Harris those 13 boys wouldn't even have been found in time and definitely would not have made it out at all alive.
The image of these boys being passed by hundreds of hands, carried out little by little by so many people is heartwarming. There is so much good in the world.
This was a better explanation than the mainstream media made. Thank you for your time & talents! Also God bless the rescuers & the boys!! What a miracle everything happened just right to get a relatively perfect ending!!!:& lets not forget those farmers & their families who were put in a rough spot probably for a couple years after this. ❤❤❤
That was an amazingly (risky) yet spot on way to get them boys out , with anesthesia! There was really no other way to combat the panic. I had heard of these boys being trapped but didn't know the details...thanks for a great vid!
@@waterlinestories Well I came across your channel recently due to watching other 'disaster' channels, and yours was subsequently recommended. It was instantly apparent that your videos were of a higher quality than the average, and well worth watching and subscribing. People will catch on (if they know what's good for them!)
The video does a good job of describing what happened. For the sake of accuracy, I point out the following inaccuracies in the video. 1) Base camp inside the cave was known as Chamber 3 and was 800 meters from the entrance, not 1.5 miles. The boys were in Chamber 9 which was about 2.4 kilometers from the cave entrance, or about 1.5 miles, not 2.5 miles. 3) There was no 2nd diver during the dive portions of the extraction, it was one diver, one boy. There were support divers in Chambers 5,6, 8 who assisted carrying the boys across dry spots, changing tanks, and readministering Ketamine when required. When diving resumed, it was one-on-one all the way to Chamber 3. 4) You may have been using John Volanthen as the typical diver, but Jason Mallinson took the first boy out. 5) The coach was not the last out. He went out first on the 3rd day of the rescue, 9th out of 13 people. The last boy out was Mark who needed a special wetsuit and mask as he was the smallest boy.
Why can,t people who do videos of live advents get the facts right. I will never watch any video this guy does now because l know the facts might not be correct. Thanku for informing us of the correct facts Much appreciated. lori.
Again, expertly done. Halfway through the video now and I have a list of questions to research. A rarity for me on this platform- I LOVE it! Thank you! 😊
I saw many "experienced diving channel" talking about this accident. So, i though learning nothing about it while looking at your video. I was so wrong, you get into details than nobody ever talk about. Your video is way better than everything who was made on internet on this subject. It was a real pleasure to watch it.
@@waterlinestories you should read the book written by harris and his diving and rescue buddy. he was loath to do it initially, but when it looked like the only option his line of reasoning as to how to do it is amazing. he didn't just pick ketamine out of his hat but actually checked everything before giving the go ahead, including talking to specialists in other fields, one of whoml as i mentioned above gave him the final and most important piece of the puzzle as to what drug to use.
This is a fantastic, but very complex story. As ever, you told it very well, with just the right amount of detail to really get across the difficulties faced by the rescue team. Great to see your subscriber numbers rising.
I watched this story and am truly amazed how big the rescue group was. And I'm sure that Doctor has nightmares about this rescue. I don't think I could ever go caving!! Can't wait to to hear the next story.
Just amazing channel, Subbed after all the detail he had in the Piper Alpha video. The amount of things he can find out about these well known events is incredible
The entire scenario and the rescue will blow my mind forever, the efforts of every person involved, if one piece of the puzzle fails, it goes bad for everyone. God Bless everyone who was involved to make this a reality and let's never forget those who died in service to this rescue.
I still watch the documentaries regularly as this rescue shows humanity at its finest. people from around the world coming together all bringing something to the table. The american military with divers and advice and most importantly the proof of concept walk through using the ground to show how they would deal with each situation that allowed the thai government to make the call to go ahead. cave divers from all over the world, on the board in one documentary i saw chinese, fin, poland, american, australian, british, expats. the thai seals and the seal dr who went in, and refused to come out until the last person left providing is professional experience in keeping all healthy. 300 ppl in the cave and 2000 outside all working to achieve one thing. rescue those children at all costs.
It was really amazing that each provided the best possible service in each of their areas of expertise to the Thai governor so he could make informed decisions to serve his people. Seeing the Thai military and local community provide all the local support that was required was simply amazing.
Big respect to everyone participating in this operation, insane effort. But the key to success, apart from obvious, were: - medic, who despite 'the oath' saw that this is the best way of actualy helping someone, so he agreed to administer the anesthesia, - governor had his head in correct place, and despite the odds and potential consequences, saw what had to be done and even thought about diplomatic immunity for all foreginers participating directly - just in case. Such a bright and brave guy.
This is BY FAR the best telling of this I’ve ever heard. I definitely did not know the story. Fucking madlads, every single rescuer. Absolute heroes. Everyone down to the farmers were amazing and caring. Shoutout to Elon musk for calling that one dude a pedo because he was pissy that no one wanted his submarine that would not work
Wow....yours is the best version of one of the greatest rescues ever. !!! Gonna be a fantastic movie.. One of these cave divers was inturn rescued out of a cave by America's top cave diver.
Wonderful explanation of everything involved in the rescue and in understandable terms for the lay person to understand what these rescuers faced with multiple obstacles in getting these boys out. Amazing teamwork and organization of many levels with so many different people in their fields of expertise coming together to take on a mission never before done. Thanks for this video and many thanks to all involved to bring these young boys out safely❤😊.
The captain of the team had some of the worst luck in the world. Imagine surviving that insane cave rescue only to die in England by tripping in your dorm.
Awesome video! I would love to see more like it. Even my heart was pumping wondering what would happen next, I can't imagine how it was for the divers. I love these style videos. So glad I found your channel
I watched this on the news in real time as it happened. I remember seeing the families were distraught and going to sleep hoping to wake up the next day to see good news. It was very inspiring to see countries that usually don't work together at all put their differences aside and use their individual expertise to help in any way they could. The whole rescue was only successful because everyone involved made a conscious choice to risk their own safety and future in the name of trying to ensure these boys of theirs. It surely wasn't easy for the rescuers to continue after losing one of their own, it probably only reminded them of how very real the danger is even to the extremely experienced. I think the whole rescue serves as a prime example that problems which seem to be impossible to solve can still be solved with some creative solutions.
Wow it was a miraculous story before knowing all the details. I just remembered them being trapped for weeks, miles underground. And that they had all been saved. But, Yeah, Wow, the logistics necessary to retrieve these kids is mind boggling. And that they didn't lose one child. Just Wow!!!😳🙏 Took a lot of separate things going right for this story to end well.
Been binging through all your videos, amazing amount of detail with each one. Also love that you 'dive' straight in unlike some youtubers who have a long intro 😂❤
Stuff like this is what restores my faith in humanity, so many people are willing to cooperate and risk their lives and livelyhoods. Imagine if we would work together like this all the time instead of fighting eachother.
Excellent video! I avoid most videos about this but I knew you’d have a different take, and you didn’t disappoint. 👍 Hearing & seeing the logistical Everest that rescuers had to climb is far more engaging for me than artificial drama… and your diagram of the cave showing the staging, etc was perfect to wrap my head around. 👌 Imagining Richard Harris’ mental struggle, the ethical dilemma and then having to simultaneously be an anaesthesiologist _and_ cave diver _and_ rescuer in a high stress situation. Appreciating the gut-punch that Saman Kunan’s death must have been in the midst of planning an impossible task… too many outlets gloss over his death without realising what that tragedy itself represented. I’ve been a swimming instructor & got my fair share of bruises from flailing arms & legs… some kids are absolutely terrified of submerging their head underwater. So the thought of a cave diver trying to reckon with a conscious child in that environment, where an experienced diver died… I _completely_ understand the need for anaesthetic. A truly incredible feat… RIP Saman, Beirut Pakbara & Dom 🤍
" a Tale Told Production " .. Start to End nothing Missed. Well Told in Every Manner. You will Not find a better Version of Telling this Tale .. .. Thank you for diligence Effort the Hard Work to complete a Production very much Enjoyed. Peace.
Sedation was the a tough choice but the best choice the narrow gap meant even the divers guiding the kids were at risk if the boys panic. bless the boys for that riding home selection choice, so many people came together to save these lads and the divers doing the rescue are nothing short of hero’s
I would just like to extend my gratitude for the technical and background information you provide in your videos . I’m a commercial fisherman and find myself drawn to videos that deconstruct maritime/water related accidents to learn from these mistakes and successes. These videos could make an impact on my life or a coworkers . Thank You !
Thanks for saying so. I used to teach recreational scuba diving and I'm a sailor so, much you you, I'm also drawn to the maritime accidents. I've spent a lot of my time on the water running scenarios in my mind. These stories are a great way for me to share my passion. Happy Easter
Keep it up man, quality of your videos will take you to hundreds of thousands of subs. After bingind your stuff I get other similar content in my suggested and most of it is either overdramatised or simplified.
Quality content, you need more subs and publicity. Thank you for 23 minutes of great entertainment. My biggest respect goes out to the Thai governor who not only made the right decision despite it being a rather sketchy one but also gave the meds diplomatic immunity basically putting his full trust into the dive team while diverting all responsibility off of them to allow them to focus on their task. Great guy, right place right time, I hope he has a good life.
@@TheMayanDream That is really sad to hear. I hope he has a good afterlife or rests in peace, whatever he prefers :) And unlike 99% of humanity will be remembered for his courage and deeds.
Great work on this one 👍 I certainly didn't know ALL of the details, even after seeing a few general overviews... Apparently one of the British divers got into trouble during a US dive and had to be rescued/helped out by Edd Sorenson, although I can't remember exactly who it was. Luckily he found an air pocket and was just patiently waiting on his friends to help him, not a bit of panic 😂 I think according to Edd he blamed the use of their choice of heavier easily tangled/hung dive line as the cause of the accident and why his friends couldn't initially find him... Definitely an interesting follow-up interview with Edd having a live lost diver situation where he didn't have to worry about skill level or possible panicking for once! Awesome work on this video 👍
Yeah more than a bit silly on their part but a great example of how even some experienced cave divers get in trouble and how remaining calm is important.
So much I didn't know, great vid. I've been watching through all your videos and really enjoying them, they're all top quality. I think this channel is about to blow up.
@@waterlinestories Were the parents ever informed of what they did?? They must have. If not, they will know now. Why did the boss ever take them in there in the first place??
They told the parents after the fact. If I understand correctly the boys made the plan to go. It was very common for them. The coach said he would go with them but they were going anyway.
I had to stop following this situation before finding out how it ended because it made me so ill thinking of all the ways everything could go wrong. The fact that the boys themselves decided what order they would leave based on who had the longest bicycle ride has me sobbing. I wonder if their thoughts were that maybe they could all arrive home at the same time. I cannot begin to imagine going through that- either trapped, a rescuer, or a terrified loved one.
Knowing virtually nothing about this story but having an introductory level education in medicine and being a pharmacology nerd the first thought that came to my mind was "What about anesthetics or sedatives?" Then all the potential problems came to mind involving body temp and respiratory rate, i figured that's not what they would have gone with then boom, there it was. Pharmacology wise the solution they came up with was very clever, finding medications that avoid one or two problems, then overlapping other medications to solve the dangerous side effects of the others. Im sure this is probably a normal part of an anesthesiologists job but i cant help but appreciate the solution found in Ketamine, to avoid temp loss > Atropine, to reduce salivation and raise body temp and heart rate > Alprazolam to avoid panic from the generally unpleasant experience of atropine, whos potential side effect of salivation is being negated by the aforementioned atropine. Its doing the most with the least medications possible tailored around an environment with not only no supportive care but the least helpful conditions possible, from an "engineering" perspective i just find it fascinating
@@waterlinestories Exactly. love your channel. And it was cool to see from your video just what they were talking about when they said the sub would absolutely not work.
Hold up, isn’t anything better than nothing? You sound like one of them ignorant leftist who find any reason possible to not like someone who disagrees with your views. What did you do to help them??? Smh. Crazy man
He sends rockets to space is trying to get us to mars. What are your qualifications ? Pretty sure it’s not even close to that resume. He prolly left it out of this video so he doesn’t attract liberal weirdos like you trying to turn everything political
They used ketamine on me when they cut me out of my semi crushed pickup in minus 20 Celsius weather. Its a Weird feeling of knowing whats going on but your deep in the ‘cave’ of your mind and you don’t care nor feel anything. Took them 2 hours.
i've read the book written by Harris. he was extremely reluctant to offer his service but one thing changed his mind. a friend of his who was a vet used to regularly knock out picanods. aka seals. one day he knocked one out. but before it fell asleep it escaped. so his surprise even knocked out swam around with its nose above the water breathing safetly. the drug was ketamine. It was this final piece of information that decided his choice to take part and what drugs to use. It confirmed that he could knock the children out and they would still breath normally.
Just as odd as the sedation sounds (on paper), so does the fact they were all handcuffed/zip-tied with their hands behind their backs as well.. I understand the necessity behind it, it just sounds bad. There is also one missed detail about the struggle the rescuers had in obtaining a mask that would fit the smallest of the children in order to ensure an airtight seal. This was well covered in some of the recent documentary/film adaptation of this event though
Well put together. It is shame you didn't mention Dr. Craig Challen (retired vet), Richard's dive partner who assisted with the rescue. Nor did you mention that Richard (Harry) Harris' father died soon after the rescue while Harry was still in Thailand.
Gotta check on that. Have read 2 books on this as well as the movie without Musk being mentioned. I assume that's Elon Musk (capitalized name) vs deer scent markings!
If you found this interesting then you must watch "13 Lives", an incredible movie of the rescue with so much detail. One unheralded hero was the Mayor, he only ever did what was in the best interest for the rescue to go ahead in the quickest possible time. He brought in cave diving professionals and let them get on with the job and took the advice that was given to him, never hesitating to defer to their experience. Without his steadfast command the entire project could have fallen apart.
It's very heartwarming seeing all these people being so willing to help out in this operating. If this happened in American police would be arresting parents and anyone else just trying to help. It is refreshing to see people being more than just brain-dead order followers.
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This was where Elon Musk made himself look like a fool, by calling 1 of the divers a Pedophile.
Richard Harris, knowing that some of the kids would die,
Knowing that if anyone of the kids dies his reputation and career as a doctor would finished.
But also knowing that this was their only chance so he did it anyway.
That’s a hero
Dr. Richard Harris had the hardest decision to make, they were running out of time, explored all other options, and he and the divers knew the boys would die trying to dive them out. As a retired critical care nurse we are given alot more autonomy in these units and while we are not Dr.s, we do give alot of major drugs IV push, so you better have the right drug in that syringe, once it's in you can't get it out. I can only imagine how difficult that decision was for him, medically and emotionally for him and all the divers. Happy the Thia government gave him immunity. An amazing man indeed. 😊
The Australian Government had some agreement with Thai government that he wouldn't face any legal retaliation if something went wrong, it was the only chance those kids had.
He also made sure he had immunity and so did the other international divers.
@@TeresaMom1 but he didn’t have immunity until half way through the rescue though!
He said so in one of his interviews
Not true at all. It was the only option left for them. Their lives were on the line. Nobody's reputation would have been harmed if anything went wrong. Total bs buddy!!!
This was a great explanation. It's interesting, because I'm a hospital porter, working full-time nights. We frequently have to take dead patients to the mortuary, my record is 8 in one shift. There's no mortuary staff at night, so we are responsible for the whole trip from bed to fridge. 'A package to be safely delivered' is exactly how we treat our deceased patients, and this is how I train new porters to think about it. I tell them that it's a privilege to be trusted with this responsibility. Takes the spookiness out of it, and promotes professionalism.
The more I research on incidents like this the more I see the distancing from rescuers. I think you need to have that disconnect in order to stay calm and do your job every day. Thanks for sharing
..very well said. GREAT recommendation and advice!
I’ve always told new nurses that the deceased patient wouldn’t hurt you you alive they won’t hurt you when their dead.
I'm scrolling to see how long the two submerged sections were. 1 mile in but if there was half a mile of submerged section they would have been doomed. But a diver died in the tightest deepest section. A few hundred metres??
@@waterlinestoriesI'm scrolling to see how long the two submerged sections were. 1 mile in but if there was half a mile of submerged section they would have been doomed. But a diver died in the tightest deepest section. A few hundred metres??
It’s a good thing they did what they did. Hats off to those rescue divers who risked their lives to save those boys. Well done!
Well Said
So true. My heart went out to the Thai Diver that died saving these boys. I am not sure what the man's religion was And i hope i word this in the right way. This man will be welcomed in his religion's heaven with a shouts of praise. As will the other Thai Diver that dies 18 months later due a infection he got during the rescues.
Jesus, so many things that could've went terribly wrong. But they all did their job, calm cool professionals and achieved what seemed impossible, got all of them out safe and sound!
One thing for sure - Thailand is a country who takes great stock in their young champions - and this great feat of all who participated says a lot - i think the farmers made one of the greatest sacrifices, along with the doctors (divers) and the governor who had the last word - and of course those who lost their lives....
Can't even lie. This story always makes me cry. Humans and nations have done some absolutely terrible things throughout history, but getting together to save these boys against all odds restores some hope for us.
Very well produced.
I’m a diver with over 45 years of experience & I can say what these men and boys accomplished was a miracle.
Yeah completely.
Completely misleading information
MAKSYM-POLEJ
U know this name?
Google it and his beat Friend who really laid the line, the r3d carpet as the Brits stated...
So sad this false info...
And bravo to all the people who fed and watered all these herioc rescuers.
The coach did a great job keeping the boys spirits up with meditation, prayer and a regular roaster for digging, without him they could have lost hope. Everyone involved in the rescue was fearless and they thought out-side the box to solve a complex problem. If you haven't watched the "13 Lives" movie, you should it is extremely well done and shows how hard it was it get these 13 wonderful people out of a life and death situation.
Yeah and he also did a "great" job being so immature and stupid to bring these kids into that cave. The coach was the adult who brought these kids into that situation in the first place.
@@sebasstein7014these kids went there without him, he tagged along for their safety
@@sebasstein7014 Which he didn't know the monsoon would come early and flood the cave. he was just trying to give the boy a birthday gift.
@@sassbrat Everyone with a working mature brain knows how dangerous caves can be, especially when you have absolutely no clue about them. Especially when you have caves that are partially filled with water. It is his fault for not looking up and inform himself about possible dangers.
@@sebasstein7014 I'm not saying that it was his fault 100 percent, yes he should have known better but again the monsoon came eailer then normal as stated so he was going on that it would be safe for the kids to explore for a little bit.
The boys saying that the ones who live farthest from the cave should go out first because they have a longer bike ride home , just shows you how caring and helpful Thai people really are , and a great job done by everybody involved from all around the world , thankyou very much to all of them for saving these young boys lives
Lol. The idea of just exiting the cave to 10000 people and medics and newscrew just to cycle home immediately.
That wasn't Thai specific it was just “little kid logic”.
It’s kids trying to have some control in a situation where they have almost none. It was kind of the divers to not change the order the boys picked. Poor little buggers, they must of been scared sh-tless in there.
According to the podcast "Against the Odds," the rescuers tasked the coach with deciding the order in which to evacuate the boys. They wanted the strongest (meaning faring the best given the circumstances) boys out first. The coach thought about how he would explain his choice to the kids, and that's what he came up with.
It's really refreshing to see so many divers from so many different governments (regardless of world tensions) arriving together to help.
In the end, they chose their professions to help save lives. Whatever their political loyalties, they have my respect for that.
Had only known a handful of details of the rescue mission prior to watching this, the mission was far more intricate, larger and dangerous than I could of imagined. Interesting you touched on the local legal aspect of it, something normally not mentioned, but was a potential nightmare in waiting for those involved. Huge respect to everyone involved, from divers, caterers, farmers and everything in-between, and of course to those that tragedy did strike. Thank you for covering this story.
This was an incredible story that really showcases the selflessness and heroism of everyone from the foreign volunteer rescue divers, to the Thai Seals, the farmers that sacrificed their harvest, and the countless other rescue personel and volunteers.
Thank you for acknowledging the 10000s of people involved in providing the broader infrastructure that enabled this rescue mission to happen as well as the people at the heart of this mission. I had no appreciation for the logistics that is even needed in theses kinds of missions. Your videos certainly broaden my perspective. Thank you so much.
This was a really good explanation of the issues with getting the boys out. I would love to learn more about the specifics of each dive out, and the drama at the end when the pumps stopped working.
Hm. I've been thinking of a longer format 'full documentary' that might be a good one.
@@waterlinestories Yes, this could definitely be a full documentary. So complex and interesting.
This video is so well made - thanks for sharing.
@@waterlinestories I would love to see that.
I’ve watched several documentaries covering this rescue but imo this was by far the best. It clarified several points that were unclear to me. Extremely well done!
Thanks, I really appreciate that
The level of complexity that it took to do this was logistically a nightmare. Ive watched missions that were FAR less technically complex fall apart because of one failure in the chain of events. But this was NEXT LEVEL. The staggering amount of things that had to go right to pull this off was just daunting, but everyone involved were able to pull this off without a hitch. This is truly a miracle. It makes you proud to be human when you witness what we can accomplish together when we are all fighting towards the same goal instead of letting our differences come between us and divide us. From those that fed the thousands, pumped water, set up lighting, coordinated communications, scuba gear, countless air tanks, harnesses, equipment, medical, safety, climbing gear, and more it was truly special to witness.
I know Rick Stanton, we are in the same dive shop. You get to talk to him when he nips in to refill his bottles, he is a wealth of knowledge. We all asked him what went on, some of the details you wouldn’t have known as it wasn’t published. What they tried to get them out was brave and the only option. None of the three blokes were prepared to let the kids die.
I have done every type of diving in my life, but I will not do cave diving after becoming disoriented on a cave dive once. Those three who did the swim-throughs could have died at any moment had one of the kids had an issue once sedated. The rescue divers are a special breed of crazy.
Can you tell me your disoriented cave diving story. I'm just curious 😊❤
If it weren't for Vern, Rick, John & Dr Richard Harris those 13 boys wouldn't even have been found in time and definitely would not have made it out at all alive.
The image of these boys being passed by hundreds of hands, carried out little by little by so many people is heartwarming. There is so much good in the world.
That was the best telling of this amazing story I’ve heard, thank you…..my heart breaks for those who died…..but I’m in awe of the rescuers x
This was a better explanation than the mainstream media made. Thank you for your time & talents! Also God bless the rescuers & the boys!! What a miracle everything happened just right to get a relatively perfect ending!!!:& lets not forget those farmers & their families who were put in a rough spot probably for a couple years after this. ❤❤❤
That was an amazingly (risky) yet spot on way to get them boys out , with anesthesia! There was really no other way to combat the panic. I had heard of these boys being trapped but didn't know the details...thanks for a great vid!
That was the most amazing feat I've heard in my LIFE!!!! God bless all those people
With this level of quality and storytelling you definitely reach a lot of viewers, and if not you certainly entertain and educate us viewers
Well that's great either way. Although reaching a wider audience would be my preferred choice 😂
@@waterlinestories Well I came across your channel recently due to watching other 'disaster' channels, and yours was subsequently recommended.
It was instantly apparent that your videos were of a higher quality than the average, and well worth watching and subscribing. People will catch on (if they know what's good for them!)
You will watch it or else. 😂 Thanks, that's cool too hear
The video does a good job of describing what happened. For the sake of accuracy, I point out the following inaccuracies in the video. 1) Base camp inside the cave was known as Chamber 3 and was 800 meters from the entrance, not 1.5 miles. The boys were in Chamber 9 which was about 2.4 kilometers from the cave entrance, or about 1.5 miles, not 2.5 miles. 3) There was no 2nd diver during the dive portions of the extraction, it was one diver, one boy. There were support divers in Chambers 5,6, 8 who assisted carrying the boys across dry spots, changing tanks, and readministering Ketamine when required. When diving resumed, it was one-on-one all the way to Chamber 3. 4) You may have been using John Volanthen as the typical diver, but Jason Mallinson took the first boy out. 5) The coach was not the last out. He went out first on the 3rd day of the rescue, 9th out of 13 people. The last boy out was Mark who needed a special wetsuit and mask as he was the smallest boy.
Why can,t people who do videos of live advents get the facts right. I will never watch any video this guy does now because l know the facts might not be correct. Thanku for informing us of the correct facts Much appreciated. lori.
@@loriclem6889Bye!
Again, expertly done. Halfway through the video now and I have a list of questions to research. A rarity for me on this platform- I LOVE it! Thank you! 😊
That's awesome. Would you mind sharing your questions. It's interesting for me to see what type of info to include.
I saw many "experienced diving channel" talking about this accident. So, i though learning nothing about it while looking at your video. I was so wrong, you get into details than nobody ever talk about. Your video is way better than everything who was made on internet on this subject. It was a real pleasure to watch it.
Thanks, I really appreciate that. I do try to give the details that make these stories.
Wow, this rescue was so much more interesting than I'd ever realised!
Also, I can't help but keep hearing "then they ketted up the boy"
Well they kitted him up with equipment but yes they also ketted him up. 😁
@@waterlinestories you should read the book written by harris and his diving and rescue buddy. he was loath to do it initially, but when it looked like the only option his line of reasoning as to how to do it is amazing. he didn't just pick ketamine out of his hat but actually checked everything before giving the go ahead, including talking to specialists in other fields, one of whoml as i mentioned above gave him the final and most important piece of the puzzle as to what drug to use.
As someone with both claustrophobia and breathing problems caused by an accident watching this is almost impossible without freaking out. _Yikes!_
This is a fantastic, but very complex story. As ever, you told it very well, with just the right amount of detail to really get across the difficulties faced by the rescue team. Great to see your subscriber numbers rising.
Thanks. So Many working parts in this.
I watched this story and am truly amazed how big the rescue group was. And I'm sure that Doctor has nightmares about this rescue. I don't think I could ever go caving!! Can't wait to to hear the next story.
Just amazing channel, Subbed after all the detail he had in the Piper Alpha video. The amount of things he can find out about these well known events is incredible
🤣 thanks. I do like the research. Hated it in school. I guess you just need the right topic to have an interest in.
The finest of humanity was on display during that rescue.
The entire scenario and the rescue will blow my mind forever, the efforts of every person involved, if one piece of the puzzle fails, it goes bad for everyone. God Bless everyone who was involved to make this a reality and let's never forget those who died in service to this rescue.
I still watch the documentaries regularly as this rescue shows humanity at its finest. people from around the world coming together all bringing something to the table. The american military with divers and advice and most importantly the proof of concept walk through using the ground to show how they would deal with each situation that allowed the thai government to make the call to go ahead. cave divers from all over the world, on the board in one documentary i saw chinese, fin, poland, american, australian, british, expats. the thai seals and the seal dr who went in, and refused to come out until the last person left providing is professional experience in keeping all healthy. 300 ppl in the cave and 2000 outside all working to achieve one thing. rescue those children at all costs.
It was really amazing that each provided the best possible service in each of their areas of expertise to the Thai governor so he could make informed decisions to serve his people. Seeing the Thai military and local community provide all the local support that was required was simply amazing.
Big respect to everyone participating in this operation, insane effort.
But the key to success, apart from obvious, were:
- medic, who despite 'the oath' saw that this is the best way of actualy helping someone, so he agreed to administer the anesthesia,
- governor had his head in correct place, and despite the odds and potential consequences, saw what had to be done and even thought about diplomatic immunity for all foreginers participating directly - just in case. Such a bright and brave guy.
Yeah they did what was right knowing they would be crucified, and all those crops lost, farmers took a hit there as well but I agree with you.
This is BY FAR the best telling of this I’ve ever heard. I definitely did not know the story. Fucking madlads, every single rescuer. Absolute heroes. Everyone down to the farmers were amazing and caring.
Shoutout to Elon musk for calling that one dude a pedo because he was pissy that no one wanted his submarine that would not work
Thanks, I really appreciate that.
Yes Elon was pissed that he couldn't insert his huge phallic tunnel boring drill into this story.
Such an incredible rescue. Every man, woman and child involved was the absolute best of our species.
Richard Harris is an insanely skilled diver, saw on of his insanely deep dives, pretty sure he was over 800 meters, CRAZY!
Wow....yours is the best version of one of the greatest rescues ever. !!! Gonna be a fantastic movie.. One of these cave divers was inturn rescued out of a cave by America's top cave diver.
Wonderful explanation of everything involved in the rescue and in understandable terms for the lay person to understand what these rescuers faced with multiple obstacles in getting these boys out. Amazing teamwork and organization of many levels with so many different people in their fields of expertise coming together to take on a mission never before done. Thanks for this video and many thanks to all involved to bring these young boys out safely❤😊.
The captain of the team had some of the worst luck in the world. Imagine surviving that insane cave rescue only to die in England by tripping in your dorm.
Thats what i thought some shit luck to survive the cave but then be taken out by tripping.
Wow I never knew let me research this 😮
Had me hooked to the end, then blew my mind in the last sentence!
Your stories are amazing keep it up!
I can’t swim.
Awesome video! I would love to see more like it. Even my heart was pumping wondering what would happen next, I can't imagine how it was for the divers. I love these style videos. So glad I found your channel
Thanks
Can not wait for another awesome video from my favorite site. Love your video's and the guy who tells us the great stories. 💙💙💙💙
I watched this on the news in real time as it happened. I remember seeing the families were distraught and going to sleep hoping to wake up the next day to see good news.
It was very inspiring to see countries that usually don't work together at all put their differences aside and use their individual expertise to help in any way they could. The whole rescue was only successful because everyone involved made a conscious choice to risk their own safety and future in the name of trying to ensure these boys of theirs.
It surely wasn't easy for the rescuers to continue after losing one of their own, it probably only reminded them of how very real the danger is even to the extremely experienced. I think the whole rescue serves as a prime example that problems which seem to be impossible to solve can still be solved with some creative solutions.
Great video as usual. I never knew they used Ketamine to get the boys rescued. I am really enjoying your videos/
Wow it was a miraculous story before knowing all the details. I just remembered them being trapped for weeks, miles underground. And that they had all been saved. But, Yeah, Wow, the logistics necessary to retrieve these kids is mind boggling. And that they didn't lose one child. Just Wow!!!😳🙏 Took a lot of separate things going right for this story to end well.
this was the best telling of this case i've seen so far, and legit i've seen some good people doing it before. keep it up!
Thanks, I really appreciate that 🤜🏻
Been binging through all your videos, amazing amount of detail with each one. Also love that you 'dive' straight in unlike some youtubers who have a long intro 😂❤
Thanks. Yes I like when videos get to the point. Although maybe I spend too much time laying the foundations.
no, we like those foundations layed out, it gives us context to appreciate and understand the stories more. @@waterlinestories
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🥰🇺🇸 Excellent Presentation. I was totally invested at the time.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
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Love this channel. Well done as usual 👏🏽🤣‼️
Thanks 👍🏻
Stuff like this is what restores my faith in humanity, so many people are willing to cooperate and risk their lives and livelyhoods. Imagine if we would work together like this all the time instead of fighting eachother.
Excellent video! I avoid most videos about this but I knew you’d have a different take, and you didn’t disappoint. 👍 Hearing & seeing the logistical Everest that rescuers had to climb is far more engaging for me than artificial drama… and your diagram of the cave showing the staging, etc was perfect to wrap my head around. 👌 Imagining Richard Harris’ mental struggle, the ethical dilemma and then having to simultaneously be an anaesthesiologist _and_ cave diver _and_ rescuer in a high stress situation. Appreciating the gut-punch that Saman Kunan’s death must have been in the midst of planning an impossible task… too many outlets gloss over his death without realising what that tragedy itself represented. I’ve been a swimming instructor & got my fair share of bruises from flailing arms & legs… some kids are absolutely terrified of submerging their head underwater. So the thought of a cave diver trying to reckon with a conscious child in that environment, where an experienced diver died… I _completely_ understand the need for anaesthetic. A truly incredible feat… RIP Saman, Beirut Pakbara & Dom 🤍
Thanks. Yeah it's an incredible story. I remember learning the details and being amazed and shocked. What an unbelievable accomplishment.
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Sedation was the a tough choice but the best choice the narrow gap meant even the divers guiding the kids were at risk if the boys panic. bless the boys for that riding home selection choice, so many people came together to save these lads and the divers doing the rescue are nothing short of hero’s
I would just like to extend my gratitude for the technical and background information you provide in your videos . I’m a commercial fisherman and find myself drawn to videos that deconstruct maritime/water related accidents to learn from these mistakes and successes. These videos could make an impact on my life or a coworkers . Thank You !
Thanks for saying so. I used to teach recreational scuba diving and I'm a sailor so, much you you, I'm also drawn to the maritime accidents. I've spent a lot of my time on the water running scenarios in my mind. These stories are a great way for me to share my passion.
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I can't wait till your next video. Not sure who tells the stories but I could listen and look at him ALL DAY and EVERY DAY!!!
Honestly I forget that you have less than 20k subscribers, the videos are easily better and more concise than a lot of other big channels out there
Thanks. It's honestly a bit crazy. Last week I had 10000 subscribers and now it's 17.
I just hope I can keep producing better videos.
It won’t be less than 20k for long at this rate.
180K now!
Keep it up man, quality of your videos will take you to hundreds of thousands of subs. After bingind your stuff I get other similar content in my suggested and most of it is either overdramatised or simplified.
Thanks. I'll keep plugging on with this. I really enjoy researching these stories and it's great to share.
Good men.
Admiration and respect.
Much love to the boys and the all the saviours .
Very professionally done by all ! Fantastic job ! I am so impressed - Teamwork at its best .
Incredible human triumph and tragedy. Extraordinary.
Quality content, you need more subs and publicity. Thank you for 23 minutes of great entertainment.
My biggest respect goes out to the Thai governor who not only made the right decision despite it being a rather sketchy one but also gave the meds diplomatic immunity basically putting his full trust into the dive team while diverting all responsibility off of them to allow them to focus on their task. Great guy, right place right time, I hope he has a good life.
Yeah it makes a difference when the ones at the top provide an environment for people to succeed.
Unfortunately he passed away last month due to cancer 😢
@@TheMayanDream That is really sad to hear. I hope he has a good afterlife or rests in peace, whatever he prefers :) And unlike 99% of humanity will be remembered for his courage and deeds.
Great work on this one 👍 I certainly didn't know ALL of the details, even after seeing a few general overviews... Apparently one of the British divers got into trouble during a US dive and had to be rescued/helped out by Edd Sorenson, although I can't remember exactly who it was. Luckily he found an air pocket and was just patiently waiting on his friends to help him, not a bit of panic 😂 I think according to Edd he blamed the use of their choice of heavier easily tangled/hung dive line as the cause of the accident and why his friends couldn't initially find him... Definitely an interesting follow-up interview with Edd having a live lost diver situation where he didn't have to worry about skill level or possible panicking for once! Awesome work on this video 👍
Thanks I'll have to research on this a little more. Thanks for sharing
Yeah more than a bit silly on their part but a great example of how even some experienced cave divers get in trouble and how remaining calm is important.
Another brilliant presentation. Thanks
Brilliant video, a lot I didn't know about. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, I really appreciate that
So much I didn't know, great vid. I've been watching through all your videos and really enjoying them, they're all top quality. I think this channel is about to blow up.
Thanks, I hope so.
Just found your channel and I'm really digging it. I look forward to perusing 👍
Awesome, welcome aboard. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
OH MY GOD!! I understand why they did it that way but wow that is really is crazy!!! Another great story!!
Yes it's crazy but so incredible
@@waterlinestories Were the parents ever informed of what they did?? They must have. If not, they will know now. Why did the boss ever take them in there in the first place??
They told the parents after the fact.
If I understand correctly the boys made the plan to go. It was very common for them. The coach said he would go with them but they were going anyway.
@@waterlinestories Thanks for more insight to the story. I'll watch again to really understand what happened. I may be back 😉😉
I had to stop following this situation before finding out how it ended because it made me so ill thinking of all the ways everything could go wrong. The fact that the boys themselves decided what order they would leave based on who had the longest bicycle ride has me sobbing. I wonder if their thoughts were that maybe they could all arrive home at the same time. I cannot begin to imagine going through that- either trapped, a rescuer, or a terrified loved one.
Brilliant, Paul. Well worth the wait.
Gotta wonder how many cave diving anesthesiologists there are out there.
Not many I'm sure
@@waterlinestories It's such a small community they're probably all on a first name basis 😁
Yeah probably
@@waterlinestories 😁
The moment Elon Musk was reflecting his own deeds onto the rescuers when they didn't need his help.
Knowing virtually nothing about this story but having an introductory level education in medicine and being a pharmacology nerd the first thought that came to my mind was "What about anesthetics or sedatives?" Then all the potential problems came to mind involving body temp and respiratory rate, i figured that's not what they would have gone with then boom, there it was.
Pharmacology wise the solution they came up with was very clever, finding medications that avoid one or two problems, then overlapping other medications to solve the dangerous side effects of the others. Im sure this is probably a normal part of an anesthesiologists job but i cant help but appreciate the solution found in Ketamine, to avoid temp loss > Atropine, to reduce salivation and raise body temp and heart rate > Alprazolam to avoid panic from the generally unpleasant experience of atropine, whos potential side effect of salivation is being negated by the aforementioned atropine.
Its doing the most with the least medications possible tailored around an environment with not only no supportive care but the least helpful conditions possible, from an "engineering" perspective i just find it fascinating
What an amazing rescue effort . I did not reali: how much manpower was involved 😊
Thank you for not even mentioning Elon's useless little publicity grab submarine. Or how he went off on the rescuers afterwards.
Not worth the time...
@@waterlinestories Exactly. love your channel. And it was cool to see from your video just what they were talking about when they said the sub would absolutely not work.
Elon sucks!
Hold up, isn’t anything better than nothing? You sound like one of them ignorant leftist who find any reason possible to not like someone who disagrees with your views. What did you do to help them??? Smh. Crazy man
He sends rockets to space is trying to get us to mars. What are your qualifications ? Pretty sure it’s not even close to that resume. He prolly left it out of this video so he doesn’t attract liberal weirdos like you trying to turn everything political
Wow. I didn't realize it was such secret . I assumed the parents authorized.
smart move to give the medical personel diplomatic immunity
cause they are just there to keep everyone healthy and follow the plan that is given
Yes, I think that enabled them to get it done without having to worry about reprisals.
They used ketamine on me when they cut me out of my semi crushed pickup in minus 20 Celsius weather. Its a Weird feeling of knowing whats going on but your deep in the ‘cave’ of your mind and you don’t care nor feel anything. Took them 2 hours.
i've read the book written by Harris. he was extremely reluctant to offer his service but one thing changed his mind. a friend of his who was a vet used to regularly knock out picanods. aka seals. one day he knocked one out. but before it fell asleep it escaped. so his surprise even knocked out swam around with its nose above the water breathing safetly. the drug was ketamine. It was this final piece of information that decided his choice to take part and what drugs to use. It confirmed that he could knock the children out and they would still breath normally.
A k hole will render you unable to move on your own while not effecting breathing, that shit is awesome
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Just as odd as the sedation sounds (on paper), so does the fact they were all handcuffed/zip-tied with their hands behind their backs as well.. I understand the necessity behind it, it just sounds bad. There is also one missed detail about the struggle the rescuers had in obtaining a mask that would fit the smallest of the children in order to ensure an airtight seal. This was well covered in some of the recent documentary/film adaptation of this event though
Amazing video. Really well told, despite reading into this before there was so much new information here.
Thanks, I really appreciate that
Thousands worked tirelessly to save a few. That is what Humankind is all about. This is who we truly are.
Don't forget Elon's bravery and brilliance!
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Still insane that Elon won against the suit against him for slander
This is without a doubt the most incredible rescue operation ever. Even more so than the miners in Chile
If I were one of these boys I would forever say my first nickname was “the package”
didn't know about the last bit.
amazing effort, respect to the Thai governor for allowing the experts in
Well put together. It is shame you didn't mention Dr. Craig Challen (retired vet), Richard's dive partner who assisted with the rescue. Nor did you mention that Richard (Harry) Harris' father died soon after the rescue while Harry was still in Thailand.
i dint know that. but as you were telling the story. I knew u have to knock um out. totally worked. I never realised how MASSIVE it was.
So did the farmers who had their annual crops ruined get compensated at al???
I watched ˝The Rescue˝ I admire those people who performed the rescue, they didn't have much choice
No they didn't have much choice. They made a brave choice.
So sad In particularly to the captain after all that, I didn’t know that had happen. Rip
Imagine coming to underwater in a cave on Ketamine.
Wow. What a human endeavor. This is beyond inspirational.
I'm hoping you didn't mention the embarrassing sideshow that was musk's involvement.
Not at all. To me he formed absolutely no part of the story. No contribution what so ever
Gotta check on that. Have read 2 books on this as well as the movie without Musk being mentioned. I assume that's Elon Musk (capitalized name) vs deer scent markings!
Deer probably would have been more helpful to the process.
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If you found this interesting then you must watch "13 Lives", an incredible movie of the rescue with so much detail. One unheralded hero was the Mayor, he only ever did what was in the best interest for the rescue to go ahead in the quickest possible time. He brought in cave diving professionals and let them get on with the job and took the advice that was given to him, never hesitating to defer to their experience. Without his steadfast command the entire project could have fallen apart.
Awesome video!
It's very heartwarming seeing all these people being so willing to help out in this operating. If this happened in American police would be arresting parents and anyone else just trying to help. It is refreshing to see people being more than just brain-dead order followers.
I can’t see uk 🇬🇧 politicians giving diplomatic immunity to the rescue team
Probably not. They'd be hung out to dry, lots of finger pointing and covering ones arse.