Succulent Sunday with My Euphorbia and My Kalanchoe , The Bonsai Zone, Feb 2023
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- I'm beginning the work of transforming two succulent plants into future bonsai by repotting them from nursery soil into bonsai soil. The soil and pots should give these plants a good strong growing season when the warm weather arrives!
My first succulent is Euphorbia wakefieldii, also affectionately known to Belgian staff as ‘Killer’
The second plant is a Kalanchoe orgyalis, aka "copper spoons"
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Anyone who might suggest you are”lazy” doesn’t know you! Nothing could be further from the truth. There are those who enjoy the rituals and formalities of bonsai perhaps as much or more than the magic of creating miniature landscapes. So nice to have many approaches to the art and skill and practice of bonsai. Thank you for yours. What a wonderful world.
23:46 Nigel, I love that you do not bend your trees in unnatural shapes and you don t wire your trees on to the pot. Let them talk as much as they want. The dogs bark, the caravan moves on, it s an old saying. Love your channel, love the natural shape and practices you present to us.
All the best from Romania, EU
Be yourself and do it your way, Nigel! I rarely wire my trees in the pot myself, I apply some rocks to the soil surface (learned this from my favourite youtube channel, The Bonsai Zone…) and that works just fine.
Differences in opinion can be worth discussing, but gatekeepers are just wasting everyone’s time.
I get so many negative comments about not wiring both my trees and my trees in the pots. People can't seem to accept using a different approach and technical style to growing trees.
I also almost never wire my trees into the pots. Using stones to hold them in place works just fine for me and saves time as well. Who’s to say what is right and what not … the results - your results - speak for themselves, don‘t they ? So many of us enjoy what you are doing and it‘s a pleasure seeing your trees develop just fine. Wire or not! 🪴💚🪴💚🪴
I agree
I hardly ever do wiring myself too. Isn't the not wiring trees the original way of doing bonsai? so why not keep to the original way..
But people tend to complain about anything and everything these days.
Nigel; Your style and your love for the trees is what makes me watch these videos 💚💚💚
The succulent with brownish leaves is called Copper Spoon. It has a sister also which has a similar shape but different color. That is called Silver Spoon that has silverish leaves. Both these siblings are very easy to propagate.
And it is a kind of Kalanchoe: Kalanchoe orgyalis
Kalanchoe are a really cool group of plants - they vary so much in leaf size, shape, color, by species.
I have, or had a pair, that I pruned last autumn. They root from cuttings nicely, but branch out really slowly. Mine are under grow lights and they barely have first new pair of leaves. The stem also doesn’t wooden, it’s just harder. I have them now for 6-7 years.
Really enjoyed the video Nigel, it's a shame most that think and do outside of the box get criticized. Good for you and Laura. Hands off the green belt ! ✊
Man don't listen to naysayers, it's just your way of doing it, keep doing what you are doing bud!
Thanks, the frustration builds up and I have to vent occasionally!!
Absolutely correct! You've got 200k people that agree as well! Please never change Nigel, your genuinely positive attitude and creativity is second to none. Thank you for all you do and for all you inspire sir. BZ4L!
Fingers crossed on saving the greenbelt. Great husband and wife team working together with others for a good cause.
Thanks Tom, I just wish more people were concerned and came out for support!!!
All your bonsai tree are natural looking , good looking . I am following your methods .
One more method we can use is placing stick and tie the tree until root system develops ...its better than wiring
Yes, a good technique!!!! Thanks!
🍃You're a naturalist, Nigel🌱
Haters are going to hate. You have a great style and🌴 are different from the mainstream. 🌳
🍃Most of us love your work and techniques.🪲
Hey Nigel, I just wanted to say thanks for the timing of this video. I have been adding to my Bonsai collection, buying nursery plants online and repotting all winter with my wife who watches your show with me from time to time. Yesterday was the first time she got to experience thoroughly watering our plants with our HAWS watering can and Bonsai Supply substrate. I think everything you spoke to in this episode was extremely informative and emphasized many of the points I attempted to express last night.
I recently purchased a Pomegranate and Chinese Elm for her and a Trident Maple and Ficus Green Island Microcarpa for myself. We have been tending to a Ficus Benjamina and a few different Schefflera Arboricola since September of last year. We have both been very inspired by your work and appreciate your daily uploads that keep us locked in.
Best wishes.
I sometimes really wish I could skip forward a few years on these guys!
Me too, my Crown of thorns is maybe a glimpse into their future?
@@TheBonsaiZone I think so, yes. Can't wait to watch its progress. I just overwintered my first Crown of Thorns (outside in Northern California) with intent on trying to get similar results down the line.
This is a great lesson on using succulents for Bonsai which makes this art form accessible to everyone. Also appreciate the start of this video as it says you believe in taking action to keep your beautiful province green
I Totally agree with your not wiring roots in the pots, you rock!!!!!!!!!
I am glad that the fans are working for you. Replanting looking good. I like your excellent views on not wiring. Another reason is the expense of it. I like to grow the trees as they grow in nature, just like you do. Just pruning and watching the results from the pruning is very satisfying to me.
Thanks Tom!!👍
Hi Nigel! I never get enough of your videos, I can watch all day. Sandra from Kenya.
Nigel , I've been watching you since 2015. I hate wire on my trees. Cip and grow is the way to go. I just started watching bonsai channels you talk about. ( " I told you no wire hangers " ) lol
Nice work Nigel, as always. It angers me the people can be so critical. Just know that you have been successful with your trees because of the way you grow them. Keep doing it your way. Cheers
I like your style, approach and philosophy! Cheers!
These will be very interesting to see what you do with them.... I love Audrey's leaves! Your "Killer" looks like Sideshow Bob with green hair...
Hi Nigel! I'm with you there! As far as I'm concerned, there are no concrete rules about wiring trees and pots. More like guidelines. I'm a firm believer in freestyle bonsai. If your technique works then it works. And that's what matters. I don't wire all my trees. If I don't need to wire the tree then I don't. Keep doing you!
I've never wired my trees into pots I just use rocks to weigh them down, each to there own I guess 😊
Nigel please never change. You go your own way and that is inspiring to me and many others!
The Clip and Grow technique without wiring, using stones to hold the tree as wel as not wiring the screens, is also to my opinion the best way to do bonsai. I have seen bonsai trees with a lot of ugly damage by wiring on TH-cam.
Thank you Nigel.. you have the most fun with bonsai than anyone and your many healthy plants show how much they love all your knowledge and careful treatments. The Audrey plant...perfect!
I have wired a couple bonsai in the pots and I wish I would not have. I fully support your style of doing bonsai... in fact you are definitely my favorite bonsai enthusiast/channel. Thank you for your videos.
Keep up good work I like how you bonsai any plant
I also started a Kalanchoe orgyalis as a bonsai last summer. It absolutely LOVED being in airy bonsai soil. It produced so many roots that I had no choice but to repot after 8 months. Like your Aloe, it handles frequent watering really well, especially when it it exposed to very strong, direct light. I can't wait to see how you style this one in the future!
That is awesome, thanks, good info!!
Any plant can be a bonsai fact
The Euphorbia looks euphoric ......
Every time you called the plant Audrey it became more and more funny to me, thanks for the chuckle, enjoy your day Nigel
I hope Audrey doesn't eat me!
I have Always put rocks on the soil,just like you.And it’s been working for 20 years.
We have one of those Euphorbias.. it is about 4 feet tall. My mother worships it as some deity...😅
first of all: "stone cold" killed me. I was laughing so hard, especially knowing it was not the biggest take away. second, I don't typically wire in either, and I've gotten a lot of guidance to do so ... but I'm clumsy and I have uprooted one on camera, 😅
also, haters are the worst: being stupid isn't a choice and there is nothing wrong with it. being mean is and there is. you are neither and i think it stands to say that; like politics, religion, and sex; bonsai is so individual and personal.
speaking of politics: thank you for doing your part., rallying support in a public forum is important. protests are not negative, they combat negativity. cheers
„like politics, religion, and sex; bonsai is so individual and personal.” I want this on a flag :D
The Euphorbia looks like a palm tree
Audrey is a Kalanchoe orgyalis (aka "Copper Spoons") and people can stfu criticizing how you choose to practice your art. seriously. :)
Appreciate your perspective on wiring ❤
i like the rocks on my trees to coz the keep moisrure to!
Havnt had a screen jump out of the pot yet 😂. That was funny
Nice hearing your protest
Like that you work on a variety of plants. FYI....I don't wire bonsai into pots either. 😃
Nigel, there are some of us who think the clip and grow and non wiring is the right way. Shame Bonsai Supply don't export to the UK just to Canada
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One need only look to see your wire-free method is the patient person’s long game, with exceedingly beautiful results.
Thank you!!!
"I haven't had one jump out of the pot yet." 😭
Coming in late; and having read 110 comments, none of the critics have been back to defend their sentiments! I find that people who are critical when your choices are different to their own are often insecure in themselves and looking for validation. When you do things differently, they feel challenged and don't like it.
Possibly another reason for not using wire could be the environmental impacts of it. The ore has to be mined, refined, processed and transported, then after use, it is thrown away . . . creating yet another environmental impact.
Thanks Rebecca!!
A wire won't discourage a squirrel or a racoon, but will add to the damage? I love your explain because it makes total sense . . . common sense. And I love your attitude about bonsai in general. Thanx
Ohh dear was this the first time in 9 seasons the trolls had get to you nigel? Just do your thing. If it works. I personally waier my trees in the pot. And if I must go over an important root I cover the waier in plastic tubing. I have also used bamboo sticks . I don't like a wobbly tree and i feel the new tender roots must be hold still
The translation of Bonsai is "Tree in pot" isnt it? If wiring has to be an obligation in bonsai, it would had been called "Tree wired in pot", I think. 😉
Bonsai is an art, and art does not say that you need to use exactly the same materials as your neighbor.
Not every painting should be painted on canvas either. 🤷♂️
Keep up the good work, Nigel 👍😉
Very interesting to hear about Canadian politics from an outside perspective! Also, concerning TH-cam comments, the mean people only talk to hear themselves talk or prove their “smart”. This is a subjective art with many different techniques so there’s no right answer as long as you’re being true to what you want to do
Thanks!
Thanks so much DK Stott!!!! You made my day!!!
@TheBonsaiZone thank you for all your hard work on these video's. ❤️❤️😊👍
Hands make great soil scoops.
Lol, I still think I need three hands!!
It must be frustrating to get those comments when you have this thoughtful, well-considered approach.
I might be too sentimental, but it feels like it must be uncomfortable for the trees to be tied down, all stuck. I was so happy to learn from you that there was another way
You're a rebel for protesting and an outlaw for not wiring. Keep it up.
I never got this wiring of drainage screens either. Just seems so unnecessary 😅
It stops them jumping out of the pot!
@@TheBonsaiZone Ah now I get it. Maybe I'm just used to being attacked by drainage screens so it doesn't bother me anymore. 😂
@ Nigel 🤣🤣🤣
Yup stones seem to work fine for me too.
So many in todays society seem to need rules and regulations to guide them. To be part of one group or another and blindly follow a particular rhetoric. I like individuals! 😀
The reason I love your channel is because of your compassion and care for your plants. The Clip and Grow method makes so much sense. One of the reasons I did not get into bonsai more in my youth is the practice of wiring. I find it abusive and unnecessary.
I totally agree with all you have written 👍, rocks to hold in place is a better way to go 👍.
Great job protesting the decimation of he Green Belt! I hope it has the desired effect! Remind's me of when GW Bush proposed attacking Iraq. My wife and I protested that, and I know today that the Iraq war was a mistake.
Am trying house plant bonsai as they live in the house and don't die lol
does the bonsai supply soil work better than your original soil mixture
I never wire my trees in the pot! I guess I have learnt from you... Roots are underestimated in bonsai. I know you agree ;D
It maybe a copper spoons. / kalanchoe orgylis. I have one and live in Australia
Nigel, did you catch Venus and Jupiter in the night sky? if not you still can, look west, they are quite close and bright!
Yes, I was checking them out tonight, quite a sight Xin!!
i never wire my trees in the pot because i want to regularly check the health of the roots and see if the tree needs to be repotted. I never had any problems with doing it like so.
Great video! Love the two new succulents. Was it the Kalanchoe that gets such a large trunk? I'll have to rewatch!
I guess I'm stupid and lazy too because I have never wired any of my Bonsai into the pot either (been doing Bonsai since 1990).
Do you think you could successfully turn a Kalanchoe Blossfeldiana into a bonsai? I have one on my window ledge, had it a few years and it grows really well and constantly flowers, and I'm itching to try!
Yes, I have a Kalanchoe orgyalis "Copper Spoons" on the go, they grow massive trunks!!
i have the same cucculent as the 2 one but my is purple! but for it to be purle i need to strees it otherwise it will be green.
Nice!!
Kalanchoe orgyalis or it's common name Copper spoons
I just repotted my schefflera. As it’s a young tree without a big root structure I loosely wired it into the pot to keep it in place. I left the ends of the wire out, ugly I know, with plans to untwist it and pull it out through the drainage holes in a few months. Does this seem like a good way hold it down while filling out the pot without getting wire marks on the roots?
As long as you don't forget about the wire it should be fine!!!
@@TheBonsaiZone thanks Nigel! Have a wonderful day!
That must be your most tame pruning yet! 😋
I'm glad you think for yourself, and don't just cave to the slaves.
I'm amazed how many people follow rules that other people set for them without question... And the propaganda works soo well that they'll try to force you to comply without being able to explain why.
Could you imagine how boring bonsai would be if everyone observed a strict set of rules?
Speaking of which... How dare you protest, and not let the government do what it wants! Lol
Lol, trust the government and the politicians!! I think not!!
I just repotted all my portulacarias in cactus soil with some lava rock added, and it drains horribly! You’d think cactus soil would drain well. I just used what I had laying around
Many of the Cactus soils are just potting soil with a bit more perlite added, many don't hydrate well or drain well!!
What Nigel said. I bought the succulent/ cactus soil in the orange bag (maybe miracle-gro?) that's popular at retail stores. It's really bad.
@@skrounst miracle grow cactus soil is absolute garbage for succulents/cacti. I actually really love Black Gold cactus mix, it drains exceptionally well and I use it on all my plants.
Hey everyone! Hi Nigel. Do you have any experience with Hawthorne? Do you know if they react well to hard pruning?
Hey Anthony, yes I have many hawthorn bonsai and yes they do respond well to hard pruning. They are incredibly hardy, so can tolerate a lot. Hope this helps and good luck with your hawthorn bonsai journey!
Yes, they do very well with hard pruning, the cuts heal slowly, so expect some dead wood from this operation!
You might want to take a look at TonysBonsai as he does a lot of work on Hawthorns.
The name of your plant is kalanchoe orgyalis.
I don’t like wiring the trees neither! Most wiring tree don’t look natural.
I don’t wire my plants into their containers either! It makes no sense because the plants can naturally anchor themselves
I’d rather get a scar from the plant falling over than the scars wire leaves. They are so distinct and don’t look like anything from the wild. The bark of a tree is so much more interesting than the twists in the branches in my opinion
i also NEVER wire my plants in their pots… i dislike the idea of introducing unknown metals into the substrate. and i find it unnecessary. cheers!
I hope that your community can halt the greenbelt development, both because we all need green spaces and because it’s part of Indigenous Peoples’ land and cultural heritage. Hopefully those in power will listen to your voices!
Thank you very much, hopefully people will listen!!!
Bad form for people to call you names like a bully would. So big deal that you don't wire your trees in the pots! Who's practice is this that we are watching...yours Nigel. It's your practice that you can conduct as you see fit.
Hi I can’t understand how people can call you stupid they should mind their own business you never tell your viewers not to wire their tree
I admire you for not wiring your plants. I wouldn't watch if you did.
for the tying of the roots i do like you when roots are not really developed but if i have a few big roots that i can tie without the cables being seen i try to do it, looks like the tree is setting itself quicker in the pot. i had some trees that had a bad start because of not tying them. i'm pretty new into bonsaï (only 3 years) but if i understood well for trees that stay a long time in the pot they end up cutting the cables when the tree has set. @yamasibonkiwa has another technique, he ties his trees with strings so you can remove them easily when the tree is set in the pot.
Good work, Nigel. I believe that if the tree does not need wiring then don't. I like the way you use stones/rocks to stabilise the plant until it gets settled. Keep up the good videos and let the 'critics' get a life ....
Do u use the normal soil from the bonsai supply for all your trees or do u only use it for your bigger trees I just got a bag and was going to use it on my smaller trees to
Is it OK to use it on a 5 inch mugo pine is that ok??