Exactly what I came to comment. This was an amazingly insightful conversation and although I disagree with Marcs perspective he did make some good points.
Not only was this a great interview but it was one that was important to have. Although I virtually disagree with everything that Dr. Hill says and believes in At least he came in and was willing to have a respectful back-and-forth with Candace. This “Is” freedom of speech and is what makes America great and what we have to fight for.
mrdragster1970 I’m sorry that, that is a rare experience for you. Conversations and discussions that I have been a part of were mostly calm and we left those dialogues respectfully disagreeing.
From a while back⤵ When Racism Destroys the Mind So sad that living in a society and a world which for centuries has dehumanized those whom the good LORD has blessed to be brown or tannish in appearance (not black) actually destroys the thinking of those of all races. So that those called White think toi highly of themselves and too lowly of others, and those called Black think too lowly of themselves and too highly of those called White. So I came across a story today of a woman who calls herself White or Caucasian even though the Caucasian people has labeled her as "Black." As far as race is concerned, she would be considered what is called African American. Now, the wise understand that most of what we see as it pertains to race and the color labelling of people is already steeped in racism. You can learn more on that topic in my books dealing with race. Nonetheless, to entertain the story at hand, living in a racist society has totally destroyed the thinking of the young lady in the story. She totally hates her qualities so much that she has completely denied their existence. When she looks into a mirror, she doesn't even see the actual reflection of the person looking into the mirror, but she sees a Caucasian looking person. Such reminds me of a young lady named Candace whom I saw speaking with a racist Caucasian woman in a video about racism. Candace was actually speaking against those labelled as African Americans with the racist woman (the same woman who just received much backlash for her words about blackface) as if she didn't at all notice that the lady whom she was speaking to was racist. Candace is also campaigning with Republicans and talking exactly as racist Republicans would talk. Ofcourse they all applaud her as she talks about how the United States is not a racist country and how it's all a set up to keep those called black depending on the government. As I understand it, Kanye West actually gets ideas from her and is said to have helped to make her famous. While I am a servant of JESUS CHRIST (by the grace of GOD) and neither Republican nor Democratic, it is sad to see such brainwashing by a racist society and its evil affects on so many. Please know that you are beautiful regardless of your skin color. True beauty is a condition of the heart. Yes, outward beauty is a reality, and it comes in all colors. Love and Appreciate whom GOD made you to be and the color GOD has given to your skin. Blessed be the NAME of the good LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST! Apostle Thaddeus The Ministry of Pure Truth All glory be to GOD! 🙌🎶📖🙏😃 AMEN. www.drphil.com/shows/my-african-american-daughter-believes-she-is-caucasian/
When people want to honestly change things they speak they talk it out they listen they don't burn things down kill people that is what they do when they want to conquer when they want to overpower control snot about changes equal rights it is about controlling people and having the power over them and that's what BLM wants they are no different then antifa just another branch of it
@@TheCoz27 that's a woman, not man,... besides Candace Owens is the one who asked the question, and i don't think she includes "trans men" in her understanding about the word "men" and in her question
Absolutely! People who work hard and try to provide the best for their families are berated for it by those who think you owe them because they don't have it.
Yeah, I always thought the “middle class” were families in the middle 3rd of the average income range. Mostly 2 income blue collar working people as opposed to executives & business owners. I heard a different definition in this exchange.
My kids are saying that they are priveledged , the milenial kids, I said yea , your privilege to have parents who care and to get jobs and work for the rest of your lives until you retire
The middle class is an illusion. You were all equally broke at home when covid shut things down. Separating ourselves into a middle class and working class is silly... especially to the very few who own everything.
I'm firmly in the Candace camp on this one, but I gotta give MLH kudos for at least coming on and being willing to face the fire. It's IMPORTANT that we have these conversations instead of just calling each other names.
Yep. It's when we listen to people we don't agree with that we can best counter them and maybe even change their minds. Or they could change ours. Good discussion here.
oh my god, if she runs (wait, how old is she? can she even run?) that would be pretty...... funny isnt quite the right term... but yea. if she is the first black women president, jsut IMAGINE how the left would react. it would eat them up inside so much. she is black and a women, you would think it's a win for the left, yay diversity! but she disagrees with everything that the left does, so they cant support her. but if they dont support her then they clearly dont care about race, it's all about politics, which it is. she doesnt even have to be president, even like... idk a supreme court or something.
@@nimrodfilms5104 It would also prove that the right isn't a bunch of racist, sexist bigots like they claim. ( I mean some of the far right are, but certainly not the vast majority)
desertrosereads The reason is very few lefties are educated or can articulate a sentence so the best they can do is to scream and yell or get physical. But kudos to Marc for at least wanting to debate Candace.
They spend quite a bit of time arguing of selected statistics. The person to talk to about such things is probably a statistician. I completed my degree recently, and rarely hear people who have properly understood the numbers they are citing. The 'debate' they are having is unthinkably annoying from my perspective.
While I disagree with most everything he says. I'm really glad he had the willingness to come on the show and debate. Many liberals won't debate anymore.
@@goontubeassos7076 His thoughts are based in post-modernist doctrine, along with identity politics. He is going to sound like a 5th grader if you don't understand where he is coming from. Smart people will grasp BOTH belief systems and thus understand what they are BOTH explaining
WILL, CANDACE CONNIVING MONEY HUNGRY PAID TO PLAY OWENS, IS TERRIFIED TO GO ON ANY BLACK DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM LIKE ROLAND MARTIN'S, WILLIE D, OR TI JUST TO NAME A FEW, CANDACE OWENS IS TRYING TO GET COOL WITH DEMOCRATS BECAUSE HER WHITE SUPREMACIST PAID TO PLAY MONEY TRAIN IS DERAILING AND DON THE CRIMINAL CON IS GONE AND HOPEFULLY SOON FORGOTTEN, THANK THE LORD ! 🤔
Actually as soon as I saw it was with someone with an opposing view I clicked immediately. I want to hear the opinions of the opposite side without the screaming and yelling.
I respect him for staying calm and allowing candace to get her points out, the vast majority of people who have their views challenged resort to interrupting and insults. Although I disagreed with his views I can appreciate his comportment.
Between this conversation and Hannity's interview with Horace Lorenzo Anderson Sr., my optimism has shifted (ever so slightly) toward a more positive outcome, where unity and mutual respect is possible. I don't fully agree with Candace on everything, and even less with Marc, and yet I was able to stay engaged and interested enough to be objective because of the tone. I might have even favored a couple of points Marc made (SAT's and supportive window decoration for businesses, specifically). In addition, I thought a couple of other subjects had some real value, and are worth further discussion/debate as they present some real challenges we are all facing.
I agree , I respect him for showing up and debating and doing it without yelling and screaming . But in the end I can’t understand his point , I’m trying but I’m having trouble with it .
It has given me some insight on how this country has gotten to this point with young people. I agree. It is good to watch and really listen. I certainly don't agree with his views. Facts do matter. Reality matters. "Social construct" is a fantasy that makes people feel better about themselves and denies anyone to point out that what they believe is false.
As far as nutty professors I have seen he at least seems rational and willing to discuss the issues. I'm a right wing guy but I wouldn't mind him being a professor for me.
Can’t imagine what your kids will learn from this kind of professor ? In real life, black peoples have more privileges than other minorities actually ! They don’t have to study as hard as general Asian kids, they don’t have to be as brilliant as white kids, they have to be work as hard as Latino kids, but they got much more than what they work for ..
Marc: "It's racism IF you DISCRIMINATE someone based on their race" Owens: "Asians and white people are discriminated based on their race to have higher entry exam scores than black people" Marc: "It's not racism" Literally contradicts himself to try and argue his own point.
@Kyle Mortensen I'm guessing he got a scholarship or some other free ride, he's not bright.. maybe a professor of gender or sneaker studies or some other lame degree.
Ya, this was the moment that I completely lost it. It was a great conversation, but he is blatantly hypocritical and blind to discrepancies in his own arguments.
I really love how they are both calmly just listening to each other and respecting each others views while still disagreeing. We need these types of open conversations 💜
Claude Moss yea trust me I do understand where you’re coming from, we probably have similar views but i do also think this is way of talking about differences in opinion is way healthier than the toxic bs that going on right now for the most part
REALABBZZY if you’re insinuating I agree with anything he’s saying you’re 100% wrong, trust me as I said before I’m sure you and I have similar views 🤣 what I’m saying IS healthy is a debate without screaming and bashing and disgusting name calling which is all I see today
I enjoyed this conversation. Though I disagreed with many of Marc's views, I appreciated his ability to make good points while not being driven by emotions. I appreciated the mutual respect between him and Candace and we definitely need more of these conversations from similar viewpoints.
One of my Asian co-workers told me she began taking the SAT at 12 years old. I implemented that practice with my kids and by the time they were 16 they scored very high on the SAT and received academic scholarships. I made that cultural change and the rest of the black community can do the same.
@@devenbrown761 sounds like this adult implemented educational practices with the children and it paid off. Bravo to this parent for taking the time to instill this discipline into the kids instead of the "oh woe is us" song and dance
This guy means well, you can tell. I don't agree with his ideas but he was very patient with Candace and I really appreciate him coming on the show to talk.
Same!!!! So much respect for her. And this is coming from someone who claimed to dislike her previously without truly knowing her character and beliefs. The media sure can distort the true version of someone!
This conversation reminds me of something my grandfather used to say: "It's better to sit there and look stupid, than open your mouth and remove all doubt"
“I disagree with Mark on virtually everything he has said here, but I will defend his right to say it to the death of me. We need more diversity of thought, and diversity of opinion.” - just beautiful....
I love this conversation. It is so unbelievably refreshing to finally hear two people, with different views, talking things out! This never happens anymore, and it is much appreciated! Thank you Candace & Marc!
I don’t understand why? Nobody did anything, like they did to Police in Brooklyn, trowing , buckets ! And water , is horrible , he new everybody was taking pictures!!!!
I wonder if he would have come on if he didn’t have a book to sell, But yes Communication and hug someone with a different opinion is the true meaning of hate has no home here
You burn down a business ...that business leaves that area. The people don't leave to find jobs and stay in a community with less jobs,that community will suffer. How hard is that to understand!
She was completely wrong on her comment regarding the 60's riots, she just brought up examples that fit her narrative. California had riots in that and the black community was not permanently damaged.
Insurance will pay but they will either drop the company stays there im an insurance adjuster and California economy is crap thats why alot of people are leaving California as well so check the actual facts
Really, at 8.20 she says black people don't really care, are hypocrites because a young kid was killed by another black is somehow analogous to what happened to the murder of George Floyd is so stupid, I can't believe she has any right to be debating a true scholar like Marc. The first instance is a criminal act, that is perpetrated by a civilian criminal, who everyone would expect when caught be charged, trialled and appropriately sentenced. And of course mourn. George Floyd was the illegal killing of a civilian by the state ( the police in this case) . By the way the police officer was only charged with murder after the video/s surfaced. That is to say the protests by BLM and the greater society was the obvious calls to highlight the police are not judge, jury and executioner. The protests are about the state responsibility to uphold citizens constitutional rights. The fact CO, doesn't understand this, shows the shallow nature of her intellect.
If you're going to go on the Candice Owens show then at least come PREPARED! She wasn't even going full throttle and she had him stuttering. This POWERFUL woman made him VERY nervous LOL!
@@oftenbutnever Her sources and the evidentiary proof is all around you!! You're telling me black on black crime isnt the biggest issue facing the community today!? You're telling me that George Floyd is actually a role model for the community? GTFOH!! Mr. stutterbug tried though!
Damn. I’ve been ignorant towards Candace. Never actually listening to her have conversations or debates. Pretty much just checked out the sound bites. After viewing this, I absolutely respect her mind, and understand that I still have a lot of growing to do mentally.
The narrative that liberals want is that she is an awful person and not smart.... and shes literally the opposite.They are just scared and threatened by her because she speaks facts that don't align with the narrative. i love her
Unfortunately, there are thousands of people, just like you, who need to open their minds. You don't have to agree, but a with a closed mind you're bound to fail.
I feel the same way. The only thing I ever heard about her was that she was a "sell out". That's the furthest thing from the truth. I respect her mind. She is also easy on the eyes. Very beautiful woman.
I love this debate he doesn't realize he's swimming in the pool of common sense, without CNN backing....proves my point these liberals can't debate no logic with him
@@worldwidedonabillion2878 That's your bias showing, obviously. Roland's points and worldview are as weak as Marc's. It would be the same outcome. Choose someone who doesn't argue on emotion like Roland does.
Are the reports correct that she raised money for a racist bar or food company?....And how come she is not out there protesting the death of innocent black people ?
@@ivanlongo8725 I was speaking to her question to Mr. Lamont about the "protests of black on black crime" the truth is there are many protests, if you'll remember the one by rap stars back in the 90's, also the news doesn't cover these non-bleeding leads..but there are and have always been protests against the killing of innocent black people...In short, I am saying what is she doing and has Candance done any gofundme's for the families of "black on black crime",specifically?
What she doesn’t address, ever, is even when u are personally responsible you can still be treated as less than human in america. Rather if it’s by police, jobs, businesses, loan officers, etc. she can clearly point out an issue but never has any way to resolve them. And to her general answer of do better, what then? I’m a middle class american family makes over 100,000 a year annually but I still get profiled on vacations, treated differently by cops (not as much when they realize i have money) but why should it take that to get decent civil liberaties. Nothing more just fairness. Only people running away from treating everyone equally is conservatives not him
@@HollyG95 Her answer is always clear and always given, you treat people based on merit, and you teach students and children their future will be a result of the character they build. It's that simple.
Candace Please keep doing what you’re doing. The people who are not crazy completely agree with you. I love how these people always contradict themselves and she calls them out on it!!
@@mickeydurden577 so there's not multiple races in this world? So race plays alot into everything in the United states for many years black people couldn't go to yale Harvard Stanford..because of there race ..there have always been smart black people ..they just never had opportunities..so race had nothing to do with does college not having black students?
Yes but he did have some overarching points like the systematic part where Candace was nitpicking the black on Black Death and which black deaths get spotlighted. Aside from that it was a lot of attempted counters by the dude. And Candace has a nasty back step apparently
This made me so happy that two black people on two different ends of the political spectrum having sat down and talked and argued it out. We need more of this!
Wow! This is the ultimate brainstorm exercise … thank you both, so much! As a conservative, watching this has actually helped me to understand some of my stances even better, thanks to the challenges from another intelligent liberal mindset. I would encourage both liberal and conservative people to watch this! Would it be possible for you two to have a podcast and to just confront your respective beliefs, because society needs such discussions more often? Indeed, this is what we need so that we understand each other differences better. I would suggest the name of your podcast to be “agree to disagree” or “what are the differences” or “together but different”, please?
Yep, he’s choosing his words carefully because he knows the rage mob could turn on him for agreeing with any of Candace’s points. He’s practically a traitor for just coming on her show!
I was shocked that he acknowledged that there's no racial bias in police killings. That's what the whole BLM narrative is based on. He must've known coming in he was gonna get shredded if he fought on that hill.
@@ajv7575 it looked like a child trying to prove a stupid point to a parent and the parent just schooling him and proving how dumb he really sounds when he actually says it out loud. Maybe in his head it makes sence but once he trys to put it into words it backlashes at him. Sooo funny 🤣🤣🤣
Haha I was thinking the same. He diverts from the questions and says "I'll come back to that point, but first let me say this..." or in the middle of his argument he'll say "..but I won't to go into that right now" however, my favorite was when his argument was "ohhhh but it IS" and would place his hand on his chin and pause while leaning back as if to think (I hope she bought that)
@@JSmoothSoul Right. They love to divert your attention away from the topic. You gotta really press them. If you get on the defensive they'll kill you.
@@JSmoothSoul Yeah, notice he never talked about why Asian culture is succeeding despite the fact that many of them came from poor parents and garnered wealth within one or two generations, rising to the top from the bottom. I would have loved if Candace also brought up the fact that African immigrants are also succeeding at a very high caliber, similar to Asians and Jews, and they are also black. It has nothing to do with race, has everything to do with culture- upbringing, parenting, etc. God, 2 parent homes, discipline and love, value on education, etc.!
Does anyone see how different they both look when debating? She looks confident, cool, calm and collected. He looks stuttered, uneasy and unsure. It’s crazy he believes what he thinks. But I guess they think we are crazy for thinking how we think. Ugh the irony 🤦🏻♂️
Absolutely! His voice has so much anxiety in it and his thoughts are jumping all over the place. Whereas Candace is cool, calm and collected and stays in one line of solid reasoning and thought.
It's becuz there are so many inconsistencies with what Marc believes that when he looks away into the corner of his mind (where everything is willfully jumbled up), he has to make it make sense again to himself while struggling with Candace's questions and the reality he usually ignores. He's literally expressing his cognitive dissonance right in front of us. That can happen when one consistently violates their own conscious and throws truth out the window. He has to fight mentally to force things to make sense publicly cuz privately he's content and complacent with ambiguity and words not having meaning.
They both really heated up at certain points of the discussion. You can’t really deny that. Both had valid points, though I probably would lean a bit towards siding with Candace on this one.
Emily O'Connor hmmm probably because she is notorious for speaking over people and changing the course of the convo. Anyone would forget what they were saying when a thousand tangents come flying their way 🤨
Tay Cole why don’t u debate and show us how it’s done. U telling me a grown man can’t get his point across? He literally can say “oh let me explain why or please let me finish”
What’s your opinion about donors kids and athletes getting into colleges? I’m not excusing letting in black people just because they’re black but how are all these other things okay and when it comes to race it’s like “no no no that’s not fair”?
To see how often modern leftists literally short circuit when faced with reasoned, logical answers and Socratic method thinking is telling. Indeed, who is John Galt?
@Sam Thomson he brought up points trying to rid the "socially constructed" ideas towards trans women and black people, yet his whole belief on systemic racism and white privelege is socially constructed. Hypocrisy
The Candace Owens Show: Marc Lamont Hill, This argument Trans is solved only by Politics, don't vote for Dumocrats ever! Check the Colege out before sending your kid!
sshaxy many different people from all across the spectrum start in that ten foot hole. They work harder and smarter to get out of it. And when they do, they can stand talk with the knowledge that if they ever find themselves in that hole again, they have the skills and capabilities to climb back out.
sshaxy - until you realize the truth was that both of our holes were the exact same and yours couldn’t have been deeper than 3ft due to bedrock and that you were just being told yours was 10ft by the people who kept pushing you back to the bottom of the hole every time you tried to get out of it.
The guy obviously cares a lot and has a lot of pain. He also had the balls to come on the show. If his thoughts were as clear as his feelings, I think real progress could be made. Candice is on point with everything but isn’t very sensitive when it comes to listening. The more people talk the better things will get.
But sometimes its hard to simply explain things to ignorant people or those who aren't listening. In order to agree with the quote you'd have to assume you're speaking with someone both competent and attentive.
This is so true. I recently returned to college and realized that to truly teach something you have to know the subject inside and out. Jesus once asked Nicodemus: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?"
He literally gave statistical measures on how SAT does not measure college preparedness and to use that as the single source of merit across all statuses of America hurts lower income neighborhoods, nor does it predict your success for college. Also affirmative action does not place such WIDE discrepancies of these metrics, they're relatively similar. No kid from Compton is being placed in Harvard with 1.0 GPA because he's black, it doesn't work that way nor is that happening as conservatives think. They're already within similar average to the school's scale. When Jews have created their own spaces and schools, there's no backlash on that but there is for HBCUs....even though other races can apply. If you want to implement merit practices, abolish legacy and donor foundations which is how Trump and Bush got into their schools and thats how most inheritance comes from in universities.....yet he didn't provide facts to you
Candace: "Can a man get pregnant?" Marc: "It depends". You lost me there dude. The answer to that question is a simple 'yes' or 'no'. It's simple, not complicated. His talk about separating biology, and someone's gender as a social construct is total nonsense
papindabx a social construct based on biological fact. Sex and gender have been used interchangeably up until recent years. The fact remains as op stated, it’s a simple yes or no.
tlady62 you’ve just explained it correctly. I mean even if you disagree with her on some points, you’re gonna honestly tell me a man can give birth?!?! Miss me with this nonsense!
Great conversation. No yelling, name calling, talking over one another. Each time I try to dislike Ms. Owens, I come away respecting her more. No fluff, just facts that she delivers in clear concise language that anyone can understand.
Unfortunately she doesn't deliver facts. Yes she does so in a calm articulate manner but many times she's still wrong. Ahmaud arbery is an excellent example.
She completely lost this argument. The only point she mad that was logical was against the looting and rioting. She got destroyed when they talked about affirmative action, George Floyd, police brutality
@@timriggins6860 are you kidding me she destroyed him. What were you watching. She had him spinning, twisting and stumbling. At one point he was trying to prove a lie as truth and spoke, literally, a bunch of nothing for like 3 minutes and she destroyed him with three words NO ITS NOT lol. I always said this guy is a educated complete and utter fool. And she just proved that on here.
Dummy thats exactly what Racisim is ! Black people cant Racist. Black can be prejudice but not Racist. Look up what the true definition on racisim is. But claim yall are so smart.
ALXXX That was in the context of college admissions but it hardly matters what exactly is being talked about. It can also be for health related data or arrest procedures. We should have the best interest of all humans, period! Black Americans haven’t become healthier or richer for all the staggering highly funded research and data that comes out non-stop that analyzes metrics across race. There are realities that no amount of data and legislation and funding will ever change. America is and has always been about individual thought, liberty, responsibility and choice. Black culture must change from within. As things stand, a middle class black kid could get admission at the cost of a low income white kid. That can’t be right or fair. There’s a newer college admissions rule that takes economic background into consideration rather than skin color, which makes more sense in 2020. I for one have a master’s degree but have so lost faith in leftism dominated university atmosphere that I don’t want my kids to ever set foot on a college campus if things continue this way.
@@girumzemichael704 and the thing is, getting freebies or easier admissions only makes things worse for blacks, but they are too blinded by their own perpetual victimhood to see it.
white supremacy is the father of racism. other people being considered for a benefit because of race, after the fact, only exists because of the damage and DEBT caused by the racism of white supremacy. Restitution and reparations have to factor in the ENTIRE 400+ years of oppression or it is not restitution. Holding someone at the start of a race and then allowing him to go after everyone else is ahead is not fair and balanced. You must place the person who is behind in the front of the race to retore his dignity.
Or she kept trying to change her argument whenever she was proven wrong. He was trying not to lose sight of the point of their meeting and the questions being asked, which is what she attempted to do in every argument after the first five minutes
This shall be very interesting. I don’t know much about Mr Lamont since I avoid CNN at all cost. I applaud him for sitting down with Mrs Owens for an open discussion. Much respect!
Monyette Paris If the show so boring, why bother with the comment section or visiting her channel in general? Here’s a solution, create your own channel and show Mrs Owens how to do her job better. Or better yet, why don’t you be a guest on her show?
ChiknThighTatorPie Larry Elder is definitely sharp. I don’t know much about him yet. I will look into his works whenever I have extra time. I did watch an episode on The Rubin Report. I was reading Dave’s book and he spoke about how Mr Elder owned him lol. I had to check it for myself..
Monyette Paris I’m trying to figure out why your here. If you don’t like her content then why support it? Its hypocritical if you ask me. Ok let me challenge you-So tell me, how would you challenge her? Give me couple questions thanks.
What planet is he on? Professor Marc, and many leftists like him, care not where they push society. We get a steady diet of new phrases from these folks. We are then told to ingest it all and accept it without question. If we don't become willing soldiers in their cultural march then we're labeled bigots. I cannot participate in this delusional thought. Call me rude.
@WordVomitGalore No, I can't stomach that environment. AOL newsfeed comment section with HuffPo is pretty nasty too. My skin is getting thicker though.
She is soo right. A woman has a vigina and gives birth. A man can.it give birth and does not have a vigina. If you think you are a man or woman, and you are not, I dont have to pretend you are because you are confused. It is my right to think in terms of reality. This is all about an underlying agenda to divide.
You ain't lying.... I was like wtf🤦🏾♂️!? These liberals talk to make everything seem acceptable, and they get lost in their wormhole. Candace did a good job dissecting him regarding gender privilege.
I came here for Marc but Candace kept me so intrigued. She is smart and knowledgeable and reasons well. I like her. Some contradictions on both ends but great conversation overall. Marc’s point about the social construct is very important though and I say that with intersex people in mind. I will leave it at that.
Black people being racist to white people to combat racism wont stop white people from being racist to black people. It will make it worse. Hate multiplies to greater hate.
I appreciate the back and forth. I really tried to understand where he was coming from (but I couldn’t.) Lost me a few times. However I respect a conversation that isn’t emotionally charged with solid content. Thanks for sharing.
I completely agree. I think there were a few spots where Candice could be more accepting/concede points but overall his mentality is not relatable for me. But I’m glad they spoke and people get to hear two side of an argument.
Marc: The government needs to invest in our community Candace: Government investment doesn't make sense. Marc: It does Candace: The government doesn't make any money. Marc: Actually, I mean invest in the sense of breaking barriers Candace: Like what Donald Trump is doing right now ? Marc:
"Invest" -- just another liberal word for 'taxing people more'... He got caught when she explained the actual meaning of the word and that the gov't is incapable of doing that, so he pivoted to "breaking barriers".
i like the fact i get to hear what the liberals think and it fascinates me they are so out of touch. I think its time the liberals inhabit one part of the earth and everyone else, the other side. Because ill never agree to this crap. Never
As someone who is no fan of Dr. Hill, I agree. He deserves to be commended for stepping up and coming on. We need more intelligent liberals like him to help reach a common ground for our country.
She’s not harassing him. What’s happening is that her logic and explanations are more sound and have a better foundation than his counter arguments. So that might make it uncomfortable for many. Most people don’t feel comfortable in confrontational roles especially when it is not reliant on strength or who screams/speaks louder but mostly on the substance of your arguments. But props to him for showing up and elucidating his point of view.
Hunch Burnem calm down. They both had very good points. I’m a fan of Candace but this guy did make some very good points, like the Jewish university in New York and the reasons why it was built. Candace had nothing to say to that.
One of the most 'amazing' things about this 'brilliant' black man is saying "& we can talk about those..", or "I'll tell you about it..", etc, when Candace asks for examples or clarity or proof... And he NEVER says them! Absolute speaking around issues & denying truths is what he is best at 👏🏽
Murray Williamson lol, these people.. Stop telling on yourself dude..It’s Dr. Marc Hill to you btw and see you in November.. I bet you don’t have a masters let alone a doctoral degree..
As a person who worked in university admissions for 2 years of my life, I just want to say what Marc starts saying at 42:45 is absolutely true. Admission into universities is multi-faceted and depending on you upbringing, community and whether or not you have had the privilege of mentorship you may be missing some of the categories they consider for admittance.
@@LewisJGreyson _"if we have equality"_ Because they want *EQUITY,* not equality. Argumentum ad populum is a weak argument btw, like saying Trump has better ideas than Hillary/Biden/Bernie because more people show up to his rallies. _"Just because its written into law it doesn't mean those who execute the law honour it"_ Indeed, so what's your point? _"I've had my own experiences in the corporate world too."_ Congratulations? _"Now what?"_ I feel like you see this as some sort of mic drop moment? Regardless, I'm not sure it has the desired effect you think it has.
@vertex2100 Yes. Figuring out how to make the points he wanted to make. Even having graduated, valedictorian, from a liberal arts program, having earned A+'s in the courses I took on structural racism and white privilege, and having read the books that are considered canon on those subjects as well as Marxism and Adam Smith's famous book on free market theory, I don't see how loosening admissions standards or penalizing kids who know how to do things for being able to do them is better than allowing families to send their children to a public school outside of the the neighborhood they live in that has cheap rent and allowing charter schools to flourish the way they would if government didn't prevent them from doing so. Watch Thomas Sowell talk about charter schools. I'm interested to hear what other people think about policies against individual rights to choose schools. As for black lives mattering, of course black lives matter in the same way that every life matters, but you can't end racism with racism. You can, however, decrease the impact it can have on people's lives, by raising kids in an environment where you show them the beauty of science, art, etc, and you allow them to make their lives through those loves rather than politicizing every aspect of their lives beginning in childhood.
"I don't think people are looking up to George Floyd " Ummm, I have seen multiple murals and pictures of George Floyd with wings as if he is an Angel .
Yeah cuz he was murdered by the state. So we cant eulogize or depict him going to heaven? Have y'all read any scripture? Cuz their were a whole pack of sinners that were murdered and now are regarded as saints.
@no name showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races. How is making a decision based on someone's race not prejudiced?
Putting my own political opinions aside, these two deserve a lot of respect for talking. We need more of this in today's world. Great job guys!
Absolutely. Healthy and respectful dialogue.
Exactly what I came to comment. This was an amazingly insightful conversation and although I disagree with Marcs perspective he did make some good points.
candace does, sure. but not the leftist. a person who thinks it's fine to murder babies and be an abomination deserve no respect. none.
👍🏿
Bjorn Egan he didn’t say it’s okay
Not only was this a great interview but it was one that was important to have.
Although I virtually disagree with everything that Dr. Hill says and believes in At least he came in and was willing to have a respectful back-and-forth with Candace.
This “Is” freedom of speech and is what makes America great and what we have to fight for.
I agree. He made a lot of moronic statements but I respect him for being open enough to come and keeping it respectful.
He certainly should have prepared more to go up against her, but kudos for coming on!
@@ameliam7898 -Here's somebody she's afraid of and has avoided like the plague-th-cam.com/video/eZ_RC6hoB4o/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I agree. Great conversation! Exposes the absurd views of some for sure
The left is quickly learning that one does not try to match wits with Candace over facts.
It's good to see persons who disagree politically but not treat each other like assholes. It's the definition of civil society.
Yes 🔑🛠🤐💯✍🏿
th-cam.com/video/REHex5e57HI/w-d-xo.html you might want to look at this lol
Agree, he was a calm & pleasant guest, which is very rare in the liberal forced agenda country we live in now!!!
mrdragster1970 I’m sorry that, that is a rare experience for you. Conversations and discussions that I have been a part of were mostly calm and we left those dialogues respectfully disagreeing.
From a while back⤵
When Racism Destroys the Mind
So sad that living in a society and a world which for centuries has dehumanized those whom the good LORD has blessed to be brown or tannish in appearance (not black) actually destroys the thinking of those of all races. So that those called White think toi highly of themselves and too lowly of others, and those called Black think too lowly of themselves and too highly of those called White.
So I came across a story today of a woman who calls herself White or Caucasian even though the Caucasian people has labeled her as "Black." As far as race is concerned, she would be considered what is called African American. Now, the wise understand that most of what we see as it pertains to race and the color labelling of people is already steeped in racism. You can learn more on that topic in my books dealing with race. Nonetheless, to entertain the story at hand, living in a racist society has totally destroyed the thinking of the young lady in the story. She totally hates her qualities so much that she has completely denied their existence. When she looks into a mirror, she doesn't even see the actual reflection of the person looking into the mirror, but she sees a Caucasian looking person.
Such reminds me of a young lady named Candace whom I saw speaking with a racist Caucasian woman in a video about racism. Candace was actually speaking against those labelled as African Americans with the racist woman (the same woman who just received much backlash for her words about blackface) as if she didn't at all notice that the lady whom she was speaking to was racist. Candace is also campaigning with Republicans and talking exactly as racist Republicans would talk. Ofcourse they all applaud her as she talks about how the United States is not a racist country and how it's all a set up to keep those called black depending on the government. As I understand it, Kanye West actually gets ideas from her and is said to have helped to make her famous.
While I am a servant of JESUS CHRIST (by the grace of GOD) and neither Republican nor Democratic, it is sad to see such brainwashing by a racist society and its evil affects on so many. Please know that you are beautiful regardless of your skin color. True beauty is a condition of the heart. Yes, outward beauty is a reality, and it comes in all colors. Love and Appreciate whom GOD made you to be and the color GOD has given to your skin. Blessed be the NAME of the good LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!
Apostle Thaddeus
The Ministry of Pure Truth
All glory be to GOD! 🙌🎶📖🙏😃 AMEN.
www.drphil.com/shows/my-african-american-daughter-believes-she-is-caucasian/
This is so beautiful. A conversation between two friends who disagree, and still articulate their points.
lol they aren't friends
"friends" is a major reach
The guy is a moron
Idk about beautiful. Vote.
Two people with disagreements willing to sit down and have a conversation. This is what the world needs more of.
But all Candace did was talk over him and refuse to listen.
@@skm0331 who would listen to a ,man who's saying that some men can have menstruation?
Exactly my point there’s nothing wrong with having different opinion. It’s healthy
When people want to honestly change things they speak they talk it out they listen they don't burn things down kill people that is what they do when they want to conquer when they want to overpower control snot about changes equal rights it is about controlling people and having the power over them and that's what BLM wants they are no different then antifa just another branch of it
@@TheCoz27 that's a woman, not man,...
besides Candace Owens is the one who asked the question, and i don't think she includes "trans men" in her understanding about the word "men" and in her question
I really dislike the idea that “middle class” are NOT a “working class.” Tell me a middle class family that doesn’t work to pay their bills.
Absolutely! People who work hard and try to provide the best for their families are berated for it by those who think you owe them because they don't have it.
Yeah, I always thought the “middle class” were families in the middle 3rd of the average income range. Mostly 2 income blue collar working people as opposed to executives & business owners. I heard a different definition in this exchange.
My kids are saying that they are priveledged , the milenial kids, I said yea , your privilege to have parents who care and to get jobs and work for the rest of your lives until you retire
Jobs Jobs Jobs - that’s what we need !
The middle class is an illusion. You were all equally broke at home when covid shut things down. Separating ourselves into a middle class and working class is silly... especially to the very few who own everything.
I'm firmly in the Candace camp on this one, but I gotta give MLH kudos for at least coming on and being willing to face the fire. It's IMPORTANT that we have these conversations instead of just calling each other names.
I suspect his reason for going on the show was more to do with plugging his book.
@@beatermax1Meh, its been done b4..
Tim Scott...Candace Owens ...2024...
Yep. It's when we listen to people we don't agree with that we can best counter them and maybe even change their minds. Or they could change ours. Good discussion here.
Wanna bet he doesn't show this interview to his students?
I could see these two running a show together because the differing opinions matched with the respectful chemistry. Makes it very easy to digest
“If your solution is worse then the problem, it’s not a solution”.
Owens 2024🇺🇸
oh my god, if she runs (wait, how old is she? can she even run?) that would be pretty...... funny isnt quite the right term... but yea. if she is the first black women president, jsut IMAGINE how the left would react. it would eat them up inside so much. she is black and a women, you would think it's a win for the left, yay diversity! but she disagrees with everything that the left does, so they cant support her. but if they dont support her then they clearly dont care about race, it's all about politics, which it is. she doesnt even have to be president, even like... idk a supreme court or something.
@@nimrodfilms5104 yeaah i hope she is able to run and wants to run that would be one of the most epics things to ever happen
@@nimrodfilms5104 It would also prove that the right isn't a bunch of racist, sexist bigots like they claim. ( I mean some of the far right are, but certainly not the vast majority)
If she runs in 2024 she has my vote 🗳
She's bright, well thought and many more traits I absolutely like her but Owen 2024 would be an error.
“If your solution is to make things worse, then it’s not a solution.”
@Cryonic Family bruh
wafL LMAO
@@bazooka712 well said
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Thank-you
This debate is what democracy and free speech are all about.
desertrosereads The reason is very few lefties are educated or can articulate a sentence so the best they can do is to scream and yell or get physical. But kudos to Marc for at least wanting to debate Candace.
Democracy is majority vote. Not sure thats a thing in this debate.
Why would the conservative flag be the confederate flag? He’s ridiculous and painful to watch.
They spend quite a bit of time arguing of selected statistics.
The person to talk to about such things is probably a statistician.
I completed my degree recently, and rarely hear people who have properly understood the numbers they are citing.
The 'debate' they are having is unthinkably annoying from my perspective.
@@z0h33y Democracy is the plurality of opinions. It's not only about voting.
I'll be watching a lot more of Candace. Very intelligent woman.
She's testified before congress and embarrassed them. It was beautiful.
@@lukeut8680 can you send me this?
While I disagree with most everything he says. I'm really glad he had the willingness to come on the show and debate. Many liberals won't debate anymore.
It was nice that he came on...but it didn't seem he realized how brutally honest and informed Candace is😓
I agree, it’s a start. To have him actually debate, to bad he’s not nearly as smart as a 5th grader. His facts come from emotional response.
@@goontubeassos7076 His thoughts are based in post-modernist doctrine, along with identity politics. He is going to sound like a 5th grader if you don't understand where he is coming from. Smart people will grasp BOTH belief systems and thus understand what they are BOTH explaining
Mr marr 100 percent agreed
WILL, CANDACE CONNIVING MONEY HUNGRY PAID TO PLAY OWENS, IS TERRIFIED TO GO ON ANY BLACK DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM LIKE ROLAND MARTIN'S, WILLIE D, OR TI JUST TO NAME A FEW, CANDACE OWENS IS TRYING TO GET COOL WITH DEMOCRATS BECAUSE HER WHITE SUPREMACIST PAID TO PLAY MONEY TRAIN IS DERAILING AND DON THE CRIMINAL CON IS GONE AND HOPEFULLY SOON FORGOTTEN, THANK THE LORD ! 🤔
I honestly give this guy props for coming on the show. Rational and civil discussions usually don't happen.
Actually as soon as I saw it was with someone with an opposing view I clicked immediately. I want to hear the opinions of the opposite side without the screaming and yelling.
He's a fool for giving her stupid ass any credibility
@@NoSpinster0909 lmao 😂😂😂^^^what a clown
@@Kashmirknight exactly! No one talks anymore. He seems to honestly care at least
@@paulypipes1 😂😂
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
Nathaniel Whitt Nailed it.
amen 😂🙏
And she’s stupid af.
Yes MLH.
Melissa Johnson huh??? She’s smart as hell’
What an honest, professional, and insightful discussion. Well worth the time spent watching it.
I respect him for staying calm and allowing candace to get her points out, the vast majority of people who have their views challenged resort to interrupting and insults. Although I disagreed with his views I can appreciate his comportment.
Hes a professor if he didnt carry himself with respect he would be worthy of contempt.
He’s an embarrassment
Between this conversation and Hannity's interview with Horace Lorenzo Anderson Sr., my optimism has shifted (ever so slightly) toward a more positive outcome, where unity and mutual respect is possible. I don't fully agree with Candace on everything, and even less with Marc, and yet I was able to stay engaged and interested enough to be objective because of the tone. I might have even favored a couple of points Marc made (SAT's and supportive window decoration for businesses, specifically). In addition, I thought a couple of other subjects had some real value, and are worth further discussion/debate as they present some real challenges we are all facing.
Nobody tore your store up , bc they don’t read books! You idiot
@@veloraloves I totally agree. The tone was a lot different than the comment section.
Respect for him for showing up really sounds like he believes what he says but I disagree with basically everything. Glad to hear his side.
He kept getting smashed by facts. Let's hope he went home that day and reconsidered his whole way of thinking.
I agree , I respect him for showing up and debating and doing it without yelling and screaming . But in the end I can’t understand his point , I’m trying but I’m having trouble with it .
It brings to crystal clarity how disturbed the "Progressives" really are. A good lesson for us to have seen and heard.
It has given me some insight on how this country has gotten to this point with young people. I agree. It is good to watch and really listen. I certainly don't agree with his views. Facts do matter. Reality matters. "Social construct" is a fantasy that makes people feel better about themselves and denies anyone to point out that what they believe is false.
@@Well_Its_Meunlikely considering Candace is a talking head with a high school education and he’s a tenured professor
“In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.”
Jordan B. Peterson
in the end jordan b. peterson wouldnt agree with her if you read or watch him
orlando ofarrill that is not relevant. It was just a quote. Doesnt have anything to do with if they agree on any political level
@@orlandoofarrill2266
Yea he would. Their premises do not conflict.
@@orlandoofarrill2266 yes he would, but can you tell me why he woudnt agree with her ?
@@orlandoofarrill2266 I think it is very likely that Peterson would agree with her especially in this debate compared to the other guy.
Shout out to both of them for coming together for a conversation.
THIS mAN IS Teaching YOUR children....let that sink in....
Near sin it's kind of scary isn't it
As far as nutty professors I have seen he at least seems rational and willing to discuss the issues. I'm a right wing guy but I wouldn't mind him being a professor for me.
This why school system is failing especially inner city ... there's your model professor
@T W Did he get a scholarship or is he trying to pay for it himself? I don't blame you lol
Can’t imagine what your kids will learn from this kind of professor ? In real life, black peoples have more privileges than other minorities actually ! They don’t have to study as hard as general Asian kids, they don’t have to be as brilliant as white kids, they have to be work as hard as Latino kids, but they got much more than what they work for ..
Marc: "It's racism IF you DISCRIMINATE someone based on their race"
Owens: "Asians and white people are discriminated based on their race to have higher entry exam scores than black people"
Marc: "It's not racism"
Literally contradicts himself to try and argue his own point.
Whhhaaatttt?! Ha ha!
@Kyle Mortensen I'm guessing he got a scholarship or some other free ride, he's not bright.. maybe a professor of gender or sneaker studies or some other lame degree.
The guy is pathetic. He teaches media arts though, not physics, mathematics, or a real science.
Ya, this was the moment that I completely lost it. It was a great conversation, but he is blatantly hypocritical and blind to discrepancies in his own arguments.
@@clear_solutions he doesn't teach thoughts..you gotta be logicsl for that
I really love how they are both calmly just listening to each other and respecting each others views while still disagreeing. We need these types of open conversations 💜
Healthy debate! That’s how it should be, however it is a rarity nowadays. Sad
Not really. We actually need an end to these types conversations where people think they are making valid arguments when they're not, like that dude.
Claude Moss yea trust me I do understand where you’re coming from, we probably have similar views but i do also think this is way of talking about differences in opinion is way healthier than the toxic bs that going on right now for the most part
@@alyizdebski2629 nah im sorry this dude is very sick in some of his ideas but obviously people have right to state there opinions
REALABBZZY if you’re insinuating I agree with anything he’s saying you’re 100% wrong, trust me as I said before I’m sure you and I have similar views 🤣 what I’m saying IS healthy is a debate without screaming and bashing and disgusting name calling which is all I see today
I enjoyed this conversation. Though I disagreed with many of Marc's views, I appreciated his ability to make good points while not being driven by emotions. I appreciated the mutual respect between him and Candace and we definitely need more of these conversations from similar viewpoints.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".
Ray Stevens 1970 and remade by BJ Thomas in 1979.
Agreed sir 🇺🇸
One of my Asian co-workers told me she began taking the SAT at 12 years old. I implemented that practice with my kids and by the time they were 16 they scored very high on the SAT and received academic scholarships. I made that cultural change and the rest of the black community can do the same.
Asian childhood literally 😂 they made us study since before school. That’s besides the point but thanks for sharing! I love your comment
LORD knows!
Smart cookie! We ALL have that choice. Ben Carson’s Mom couldn’t read but she valued his education so highly she made it happen.
Sounds like your looking for an attaboy or girl from the non-Black community. You must be one of the good ones.
@@devenbrown761 sounds like this adult implemented educational practices with the children and it paid off. Bravo to this parent for taking the time to instill this discipline into the kids instead of the "oh woe is us" song and dance
This guy means well, you can tell. I don't agree with his ideas but he was very patient with Candace and I really appreciate him coming on the show to talk.
I feel the exact same way. I feel like it was a civil conversation that ended on good terms. 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed. These conversations need to happen
@@jimwebb719 Best Grades A A+ B B+ ........... and so on. Competition = Progress in society, technology, manufacturing.
and so on
I agree, and Candice was very patient with him too.
I’m a little obsessed with Candace. I have recently started following her.
This is me catching up with her conversations❤️.
Same!!!! So much respect for her. And this is coming from someone who claimed to dislike her previously without truly knowing her character and beliefs. The media sure can distort the true version of someone!
This conversation reminds me of something my grandfather used to say:
"It's better to sit there and look stupid, than open your mouth and remove all doubt"
And the more proper way.. how we sat in the north...
.. . “It’s better to be silent and thought of as an idiot, than to speak an leave no doubt”
Your granddad was a wise man.
Classic.
I shall be quoting your wise grandfather
Exactly my thought!
“I disagree with Mark on virtually everything he has said here, but I will defend his right to say it to the death of me. We need more diversity of thought, and diversity of opinion.” - just beautiful....
I disagree I think we all just need the facts
Forget the racism forget the diversity and just give me the facts
Don't forget that it will not be an action reciprocated. So called 'liberals' cheer when conservatives are censored today.
No opinions no feelings just facts
The only good thing about it is that
I know to never listen to even 10 seconds of his dribble ever again
I love this conversation. It is so unbelievably refreshing to finally hear two people, with different views, talking things out! This never happens anymore, and it is much appreciated! Thank you Candace & Marc!
Candace is the absolutely best… She stands on where she believes… We totally agree and support support her in her family much respect and prayers...
Candice speaking facts.. But I do respect this guy for coming on and having a normal conversations without arguing. 🥂
Yep. Candace won the debate. But I respect that she allow someone who disagreed with her on her own show.
I love ❤️
I don’t understand why? Nobody did anything, like they did to Police in Brooklyn, trowing , buckets ! And water , is horrible , he new everybody was taking pictures!!!!
Guy “s time machine is back 70 years not in touch with reality on what”s going around right in front of him but what do I know
I wonder if he would have come on if he didn’t have a book to sell, But yes Communication and hug someone with a different opinion is the true meaning of hate has no home here
You burn down a business ...that business leaves that area. The people don't leave to find jobs and stay in a community with less jobs,that community will suffer.
How hard is that to understand!
She was completely wrong on her comment regarding the 60's riots, she just brought up examples that fit her narrative. California had riots in that and the black community was not permanently damaged.
Because insurance will cover the cost, just like if a natural disaster hit. The only real reason to leave is if the money is messed up.
@@kbg4life07 insurance companies are in the business of making money. The more you use that insurance the higher your rates get.
Insurance will pay but they will either drop the company stays there im an insurance adjuster and California economy is crap thats why alot of people are leaving California as well so check the actual facts
Very hard if you're a leftist.
As Dennis Prager says: There are two races - decent and not
Did he really say that? It’s brilliant! We need more thought leaders like Dennis Prager.
That's from Victor Frankel. Dennis is 100% correct to use it.
Tell that to the slave traders
I don't like the whole race deliniation thing but that is good
Candace you are brilliant ! You did your homework and its shows !!
Really, at 8.20 she says black people don't really care, are hypocrites because a young kid was killed by another black is somehow analogous to what happened to the murder of George Floyd is so stupid, I can't believe she has any right to be debating a true scholar like Marc.
The first instance is a criminal act, that is perpetrated by a civilian criminal, who everyone would expect when caught be charged, trialled and appropriately sentenced. And of course mourn.
George Floyd was the illegal killing of a civilian by the state ( the police in this case) . By the way the police officer was only charged with murder after the video/s surfaced. That is to say the protests by BLM and the greater society was the obvious calls to highlight the police are not judge, jury and executioner. The protests are about the state responsibility to uphold citizens constitutional rights.
The fact CO, doesn't understand this, shows the shallow nature of her intellect.
If you're going to go on the Candice Owens show then at least come PREPARED! She wasn't even going full throttle and she had him stuttering. This POWERFUL woman made him VERY nervous LOL!
He had several resources to support his argument! She had very few resources to support her arguments.
oftenbutnever what podcast were you watching?
You must have missed it when she said she's "educated on the recent research" and then didn't know about the recent research.
@@oftenbutnever Her sources and the evidentiary proof is all around you!! You're telling me black on black crime isnt the biggest issue facing the community today!? You're telling me that George Floyd is actually a role model for the community? GTFOH!! Mr. stutterbug tried though!
Hahaha. I thought the same thing.. lol. Yeah he looked very bad. He doesn't cone off as very knowledgeable at all.
I can't believe I've had 4 children with my husband of 20 years, yet this whole time my husband could've been having them! Smh 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈Zinggggg
Bible is the only TRUTH god bless America TRUMP2020
Aaaaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. He owes you.
You should’ve called him out when you noticed he got periods..
Hahahahahhhhhhaaaaaaa!
Damn. I’ve been ignorant towards Candace. Never actually listening to her have conversations or debates. Pretty much just checked out the sound bites. After viewing this, I absolutely respect her mind, and understand that I still have a lot of growing to do mentally.
The narrative that liberals want is that she is an awful person and not smart.... and shes literally the opposite.They are just scared and threatened by her because she speaks facts that don't align with the narrative. i love her
Unfortunately, there are thousands of people, just like you, who need to open their minds. You don't have to agree, but a with a closed mind you're bound to fail.
@@kennethstokes5102 Sounds advice. Just remember, that advice goes both ways....
What other things that you've heard by only soundbites might you be uninformed about? The outgoing president, for example.
I feel the same way. The only thing I ever heard about her was that she was a "sell out". That's the furthest thing from the truth. I respect her mind. She is also easy on the eyes. Very beautiful woman.
I love this! This is such a healthy debate between two opposing black ideologies and we need so much more if this.
Before anyone registers for one of his classes, they need to watch this. They will learn more than they can through the rest of his course.
Steve Reynolds couldn’t have said it better myself
Hahahahah
Absolutely
Me either!!
I love this debate he doesn't realize he's swimming in the pool of common sense, without CNN backing....proves my point these liberals can't debate no logic with him
Roland Martin will demolish Candice and I'm not a liberal.
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@@worldwidedonabillion2878 That's your bias showing, obviously. Roland's points and worldview are as weak as Marc's. It would be the same outcome. Choose someone who doesn't argue on emotion like Roland does.
@@worldwidedonabillion2878 lol thanks for the joke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣i like good humor
You’re so right about liberals, but is everything debatable?
I'm not even an American but I will always support people that deals with facts and data over people that runs on emotions.
Candice you are so right. The looting & robbing is making black people look very bad...
- I feel the same way 🤷♂️👍!
Too bad Candice was wrong about a lot of her facts www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/
We need more of this. I would love to see them converse more often!
All I'm going to say is I truly appreciate Marc lamont hill having this conversation with candace.
Yeah I gotta give Marc credit for that. He doesn't back down from a debate and didn't make it personal either.
I know right even tho he obviously lost...🤔
@@nyaboyse2433 You don't have to keep reminding people that.
@@gr8gmr
Marc lost.
Because he eloquently talks garbage. 😁
Spare me from MLH his circular arguments and endless points. Candace is succinct, accurate and direct to the point.
I think this interview should have begun with
Her: Can men get pregnant?
Him: It depends..
Her: Alright. Interview over.
Jeet VEER, No joke! That blew my mind!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏!!!!!!!! & It’s all a social construct..lol..!!!!
2+2=5...because it's all just a social construct.
Mervyn A-D 😂😂😂 Genius. Thanks for the laugh.🤣🤣
Lmao
Candice is a rockstar. She's promoting personal accountability and he doesn't want to acknowledge it.
Are the reports correct that she raised money for a racist bar or food company?....And how come she is not out there protesting the death of innocent black people ?
Crackhead Joe 211Series maybe because the majority aren’t protesting for innocent black people
@@ivanlongo8725 I was speaking to her question to Mr. Lamont about the "protests of black on black crime" the truth is there are many protests, if you'll remember the one by rap stars back in the 90's, also the news doesn't cover these non-bleeding leads..but there are and have always been protests against the killing of innocent black people...In short, I am saying what is she doing and has Candance done any gofundme's for the families of "black on black crime",specifically?
What she doesn’t address, ever, is even when u are personally responsible you can still be treated as less than human in america. Rather if it’s by police, jobs, businesses, loan officers, etc. she can clearly point out an issue but never has any way to resolve them. And to her general answer of do better, what then? I’m a middle class american family makes over 100,000 a year annually but I still get profiled on vacations, treated differently by cops (not as much when they realize i have money) but why should it take that to get decent civil liberaties. Nothing more just fairness. Only people running away from treating everyone equally is conservatives not him
@@HollyG95 Her answer is always clear and always given, you treat people based on merit, and you teach students and children their future will be a result of the character they build. It's that simple.
Candace Please keep doing what you’re doing. The people who are not crazy completely agree with you. I love how these people always contradict themselves and she calls them out on it!!
Could anyone have ever predicted that the statement, “men can’t give birth,” would be controversial to anyone on this planet?
Westb102 truth is not a strong foundation in him.
Westb102 It still is not, as hard as they want it to be.
No. I never thought it would go this far.
When we live in a world where people say things like "my truth" it is not at all surprising. Truth is based on fact, not emotions.
Erika Elyse true
Candace: "Can men get pregnant?"
Marc: "Depends."
Me: "Wut?"
Oh God, the left got their heads all messed up
Lmao Same here 😂😂😂
@domhnall777 biological men cant get pregnant
10years ago this same guy would not have said that
Hes just shilling hes not dumb hes just actin politically correct gotta keep that job 😆
Did I watch an actual debate between two people of different ideologies without attacking each other’s character.
Yes, and that would be bec Candace wasn’t yelling and over talking the other person or talking a mile a minute
Did I just read a question lacking a ❓ ?
Marc...You wear a suit and tie on CNN joke of a show yet you're in a hoodie, jeans and jordan's on this intellectual show !?
@@petervu77 he also thinks that men can have a period
Some thing is WRONG with this girl
I highly enjoyed this discussion from beginning to end. We need more like this.
“Everything should be merit based, that’s true equality” YES THANK YOU 🙏
Shouldn't be the only qualication..and your only listening to her side..but not lamont hills side the system is rigged
@ajax515 that's your point of view..I guessing your white so in your world everything is perfect and nobody get treated unfairly
@Jeff Morency Wow only made it to your second comment before making about his race. LMAO
@@mickeydurden577 so there's not multiple races in this world? So race plays alot into everything in the United states for many years black people couldn't go to yale Harvard Stanford..because of there race ..there have always been smart black people ..they just never had opportunities..so race had nothing to do with does college not having black students?
@ajax515 so fact or untrue ..black people couldn't go to ivy league schools like harvard yale Stanford ect..answer that question.
Candace: *presses Marc*
Marc: "We can get to that in a minute, but let me get back to this."
NEVER GETS TO IT EVER LMAOOOO
I agree. That really disturbed me because it did that several times. He is on his way to political power by pulling the wool over peoples eyes.
@@laura8512 ahahahhahahahah
So you wanted him to continually go to side points instead of finishing a point one at a time? Smh
Yes but he did have some overarching points like the systematic part where Candace was nitpicking the black on Black Death and which black deaths get spotlighted. Aside from that it was a lot of attempted counters by the dude. And Candace has a nasty back step apparently
Well yeah, his hormones are all over the place since he's pregnant. Cut him some slack guys.
This made me so happy that two black people on two different ends of the political spectrum having sat down and talked and argued it out. We need more of this!
Just curious, for you who made more sense?
@@GoLeafs03 candace hands down haha
Wow! This is the ultimate brainstorm exercise … thank you both, so much!
As a conservative, watching this has actually helped me to understand some of my stances even better, thanks to the challenges from another intelligent liberal mindset.
I would encourage both liberal and conservative people to watch this!
Would it be possible for you two to have a podcast and to just confront your respective beliefs, because society needs such discussions more often? Indeed, this is what we need so that we understand each other differences better.
I would suggest the name of your podcast to be “agree to disagree” or “what are the differences” or “together but different”, please?
He looks like he knows he wrong and just still trying his best to fight
He was so excited when Candace gave him one point.
nakesha Skerritt-philip when you’re being slapped in the face with facts and truth and still deny it... you’re wrong
Yep, he’s choosing his words carefully because he knows the rage mob could turn on him for agreeing with any of Candace’s points. He’s practically a traitor for just coming on her show!
I was shocked that he acknowledged that there's no racial bias in police killings. That's what the whole BLM narrative is based on. He must've known coming in he was gonna get shredded if he fought on that hill.
@@ajv7575 it looked like a child trying to prove a stupid point to a parent and the parent just schooling him and proving how dumb he really sounds when he actually says it out loud. Maybe in his head it makes sence but once he trys to put it into words it backlashes at him. Sooo funny 🤣🤣🤣
He is awesome at changing the subject to something else.
She is awesome at shutting down that too.
Haha I was thinking the same. He diverts from the questions and says "I'll come back to that point, but first let me say this..." or in the middle of his argument he'll say "..but I won't to go into that right now" however, my favorite was when his argument was "ohhhh but it IS" and would place his hand on his chin and pause while leaning back as if to think (I hope she bought that)
She is showing to be a flawless debater ✅💯
Because that's what the smarter Leftist do. They are genius at changing the subject. She knows that.
@@JSmoothSoul Right. They love to divert your attention away from the topic. You gotta really press them. If you get on the defensive they'll kill you.
@@JSmoothSoul Yeah, notice he never talked about why Asian culture is succeeding despite the fact that many of them came from poor parents and garnered wealth within one or two generations, rising to the top from the bottom. I would have loved if Candace also brought up the fact that African immigrants are also succeeding at a very high caliber, similar to Asians and Jews, and they are also black. It has nothing to do with race, has everything to do with culture- upbringing, parenting, etc. God, 2 parent homes, discipline and love, value on education, etc.!
Does anyone see how different they both look when debating? She looks confident, cool, calm and collected. He looks stuttered, uneasy and unsure. It’s crazy he believes what he thinks. But I guess they think we are crazy for thinking how we think. Ugh the irony 🤦🏻♂️
Absolutely! His voice has so much anxiety in it and his thoughts are jumping all over the place. Whereas Candace is cool, calm and collected and stays in one line of solid reasoning and thought.
Body language spoke volumes
It's becuz there are so many inconsistencies with what Marc believes that when he looks away into the corner of his mind (where everything is willfully jumbled up), he has to make it make sense again to himself while struggling with Candace's questions and the reality he usually ignores. He's literally expressing his cognitive dissonance right in front of us. That can happen when one consistently violates their own conscious and throws truth out the window. He has to fight mentally to force things to make sense publicly cuz privately he's content and complacent with ambiguity and words not having meaning.
They both really heated up at certain points of the discussion. You can’t really deny that. Both had valid points, though I probably would lean a bit towards siding with Candace on this one.
I have ADHD and watched every second of it. Two power voices and narratives showcasing their perspective courageously. It was an honor to view Owens.
Same
He keeps saying "we'll get to that later" but he doesn't
I think I counted 16x he said that, but I admit I lost count, lol
Yeah, I wish she would have let him answer half the questions she put up, but she just asked a new question when she felt like he was making headway.
Emily O'Connor hmmm probably because she is notorious for speaking over people and changing the course of the convo. Anyone would forget what they were saying when a thousand tangents come flying their way 🤨
Tay Cole He spoke over her when she was making valid points.
Tay Cole why don’t u debate and show us how it’s done. U telling me a grown man can’t get his point across? He literally can say “oh let me explain why or please let me finish”
Wow, never thought I would agree with Candace but she is winning me over.
Same here!!! I was totally her cheerleader in this interview.
She is brilliant
Candace is waking a lot of people up.
She’s brilliant!! If she ran for president one day I would vote for her!
“If you’re making a decision based on the color of somebody’s skin, that’s called discrimination!”
Zhichang Yiren Then he responded no it’s not. How stupid.
I agree with you Zhichang
What’s your opinion about donors kids and athletes getting into colleges? I’m not excusing letting in black people just because they’re black but how are all these other things okay and when it comes to race it’s like “no no no that’s not fair”?
To see how often modern leftists literally short circuit when faced with reasoned, logical answers and Socratic method thinking is telling. Indeed, who is John Galt?
@@kbyrd4840 It's like saying I am allowed to steal because those other guys steal too.
His whole point was: "thats an interesting point and you bring up facts but I disagree. And we can talk about that later in the interview, but..."
@Sam Thomson he brought up points trying to rid the "socially constructed" ideas towards trans women and black people, yet his whole belief on systemic racism and white privelege is socially constructed. Hypocrisy
The constitution doesn’t promise to give life, liberty, and happiness. It gives you the right to pursue it.
The Candace Owens Show: Marc Lamont Hill, This argument Trans is solved only by Politics, don't vote for Dumocrats ever! Check the Colege out before sending your kid!
sshaxy many different people from all across the spectrum start in that ten foot hole. They work harder and smarter to get out of it. And when they do, they can stand talk with the knowledge that if they ever find themselves in that hole again, they have the skills and capabilities to climb back out.
sshaxy - until you realize the truth was that both of our holes were the exact same and yours couldn’t have been deeper than 3ft due to bedrock and that you were just being told yours was 10ft by the people who kept pushing you back to the bottom of the hole every time you tried to get out of it.
Well said!!!!
Well put!
“If you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it well enough.” - Albert Einstein
One of my all time FAVORITE quotes!
The guy obviously cares a lot and has a lot of pain. He also had the balls to come on the show. If his thoughts were as clear as his feelings, I think real progress could be made. Candice is on point with everything but isn’t very sensitive when it comes to listening. The more people talk the better things will get.
But sometimes its hard to simply explain things to ignorant people or those who aren't listening. In order to agree with the quote you'd have to assume you're speaking with someone both competent and attentive.
This is so true. I recently returned to college and realized that to truly teach something you have to know the subject inside and out. Jesus once asked Nicodemus: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?"
He literally gave statistical measures on how SAT does not measure college preparedness and to use that as the single source of merit across all statuses of America hurts lower income neighborhoods, nor does it predict your success for college.
Also affirmative action does not place such WIDE discrepancies of these metrics, they're relatively similar. No kid from Compton is being placed in Harvard with 1.0 GPA because he's black, it doesn't work that way nor is that happening as conservatives think. They're already within similar average to the school's scale.
When Jews have created their own spaces and schools, there's no backlash on that but there is for HBCUs....even though other races can apply.
If you want to implement merit practices, abolish legacy and donor foundations which is how Trump and Bush got into their schools and thats how most inheritance comes from in universities.....yet he didn't provide facts to you
Candice….Candice…..Candice……this is why I love watching your debates, nothing but truth and facts and trying to decipher the opposition answers!!!
I’ve never seen someone lose every argument during a debate before
Until now........lol
He lost, as soon as he accepted the offer to debate.
For real tho. It's rare that there's such pwnage that I get bored and stop watching.
U didn't see the Cathy newmon Jordan Peterson interview then lol
Dave Rubin and Larry Elder
Candace: "Can a man get pregnant?" Marc: "It depends". You lost me there dude. The answer to that question is a simple 'yes' or 'no'. It's simple, not complicated. His talk about separating biology, and someone's gender as a social construct is total nonsense
You're confusing gender with sex. Gender is a social construct. Sex is based on biology.
papindabx a social construct based on biological fact. Sex and gender have been used interchangeably up until recent years. The fact remains as op stated, it’s a simple yes or no.
I would love to see a man push out a baby!
@Bud Smith your logic is sound and beautiful. who would think such basic ideas could be poetry.
@@papindabx Exactly -> Thank you
Did he just say men can have babies? He’s a professor?!? Lawdddd what has the world come to. He’s allowed to teach?
Up is Down, Right is Wrong, and Good is Evil. Scary, isn’t it?
I am beside myself right now. How did we even get here??? It's madness.
LOL
tlady62 you’ve just explained it correctly. I mean even if you disagree with her on some points, you’re gonna honestly tell me a man can give birth?!?! Miss me with this nonsense!
That’s cuz he woke!
Great conversation. No yelling, name calling, talking over one another. Each time I try to dislike Ms. Owens, I come away respecting her more. No fluff, just facts that she delivers in clear concise language that anyone can understand.
Unfortunately she doesn't deliver facts. Yes she does so in a calm articulate manner but many times she's still wrong. Ahmaud arbery is an excellent example.
The truth keeps winning against his narrative .
She completely lost this argument. The only point she mad that was logical was against the looting and rioting. She got destroyed when they talked about affirmative action, George Floyd, police brutality
I genuinely always make and effort to listen to all sides. But listening to Candace Owens is really hard. She is the worst.
This dude is the one that got fired from CNN for being anti-semetic
@@timriggins6860 are you kidding me she destroyed him. What were you watching. She had him spinning, twisting and stumbling. At one point he was trying to prove a lie as truth and spoke, literally, a bunch of nothing for like 3 minutes and she destroyed him with three words NO ITS NOT lol. I always said this guy is a educated complete and utter fool. And she just proved that on here.
@@antzking8935 she is the worst to you. Because you are utter evil. Truth makes you cringe. But you will go back to your father the devil soon.
Candace: "Yes, let's take off race" Lamont"OK, consider a White guy ...." Hello?
Hahahaha!!! I just got to that part.
This guy is literally saying it's only racism if its discriminating against black people.
Exactly!! if a black person hates on a white person I guess whites deserve it? Such ugliness!!!!!!
Didn’t you hear him? It’s not racist because he doesn’t consider it to be. So yea...
That is the typical narrative.
Yeah that's kind of racist.
Dummy thats exactly what Racisim is ! Black people cant Racist. Black can be prejudice but not Racist. Look up what the true definition on racisim is. But claim yall are so smart.
I’m happy that they were able to have this conversation and remain respectful.
She’s like it’s racist to consider someone based on the color of their skin. He’s like no it isn’t. I’m like wtf
ALXXX That was in the context of college admissions but it hardly matters what exactly is being talked about. It can also be for health related data or arrest procedures. We should have the best interest of all humans, period! Black Americans haven’t become healthier or richer for all the staggering highly funded research and data that comes out non-stop that analyzes metrics across race. There are realities that no amount of data and legislation and funding will ever change. America is and has always been about individual thought, liberty, responsibility and choice. Black culture must change from within. As things stand, a middle class black kid could get admission at the cost of a low income white kid. That can’t be right or fair. There’s a newer college admissions rule that takes economic background into consideration rather than skin color, which makes more sense in 2020. I for one have a master’s degree but have so lost faith in leftism dominated university atmosphere that I don’t want my kids to ever set foot on a college campus if things continue this way.
Marc Lamont is so confusing
@@lisawingate9325 well they both said some truth and they both said some pretty ridiculous things.
@@girumzemichael704 and the thing is, getting freebies or easier admissions only makes things worse for blacks, but they are too blinded by their own perpetual victimhood to see it.
white supremacy is the father of racism. other people being considered for a benefit because of race, after the fact, only exists because of the damage and DEBT caused by the racism of white supremacy. Restitution and reparations have to factor in the ENTIRE 400+ years of oppression or it is not restitution.
Holding someone at the start of a race and then allowing him to go after everyone else is ahead is not fair and balanced. You must place the person who is behind in the front of the race to retore his dignity.
"We can talk about that too" = "I don't have a valid response so I'm going to change the subject"
no sir not even close
Or she kept trying to change her argument whenever she was proven wrong. He was trying not to lose sight of the point of their meeting and the questions being asked, which is what she attempted to do in every argument after the first five minutes
I enjoyed this conversation. We need more of this. Disagreements are okay.
This was brilliant! Well done you two.
This shall be very interesting. I don’t know much about Mr Lamont since I avoid CNN at all cost. I applaud him for sitting down with Mrs Owens for an open discussion. Much respect!
He was actually fired by CNN. Regardless, still looking forward to the interview
It's because Larry Elder tore him a new one on his own platform
Monyette Paris If the show so boring, why bother with the comment section or visiting her channel in general? Here’s a solution, create your own channel and show Mrs Owens how to do her job better. Or better yet, why don’t you be a guest on her show?
ChiknThighTatorPie Larry Elder is definitely sharp. I don’t know much about him yet. I will look into his works whenever I have extra time. I did watch an episode on The Rubin Report. I was reading Dave’s book and he spoke about how Mr Elder owned him lol. I had to check it for myself..
Monyette Paris I’m trying to figure out why your here. If you don’t like her content then why support it? Its hypocritical if you ask me. Ok let me challenge you-So tell me, how would you challenge her? Give me couple questions thanks.
"CAN MEN GET A PERIOD"
"...Sometimes..."
"Okay.... 🤦🏿♂️"
I lost it 😂
Kick them hard enough on the balls and there will come blood :D
No man don't have period and woman don't have it after menopause, your point is?
It was hard to watch a woman butchering a man with logic!
Me too, Marc you lost me on that one.
The gender talk sounded like someone in a cult. We have officially entered crazy town.
What planet is he on? Professor Marc, and many leftists like him, care not where they push society. We get a steady diet of new phrases from these folks. We are then told to ingest it all and accept it without question. If we don't become willing soldiers in their cultural march then we're labeled bigots. I cannot participate in this delusional thought. Call me rude.
@WordVomitGalore No, I can't stomach that environment. AOL newsfeed comment section with HuffPo is pretty nasty too. My skin is getting thicker though.
She is soo right. A woman has a vigina and gives birth. A man can.it give birth and does not have a vigina. If you think you are a man or woman, and you are not, I dont have to pretend you are because you are confused. It is my right to think in terms of reality. This is all about an underlying agenda to divide.
You ain't lying.... I was like wtf🤦🏾♂️!? These liberals talk to make everything seem acceptable, and they get lost in their wormhole. Candace did a good job dissecting him regarding gender privilege.
He was losing the entire debate then when he said men could give birth it went from bad to sad and embarassing for him , the Left is a Cult
I came here for Marc but Candace kept me so intrigued. She is smart and knowledgeable and reasons well. I like her. Some contradictions on both ends but great conversation overall. Marc’s point about the social construct is very important though and I say that with intersex people in mind. I will leave it at that.
Intersex individuals account for only 0.018% of the population. You hardly have any plausible argument there.
“You can’t ask for racism to combat racism.”
Wrap your head around that.
Francee Frederico I’m sorry. Explaining that to you is a waste of time. If you don’t get it, you just don’t get it.
According to that logic, the ending of slavery was racist. The emancipation proclamation specifically targeted black people.
Black people being racist to white people to combat racism wont stop white people from being racist to black people. It will make it worse. Hate multiplies to greater hate.
That’s the issue when intelligent ppl try and talk their way out of nonsense, they just contradict themselves. Hill is a “College Leftist”. period.
no name that’s quite a stretch.
I appreciate the back and forth. I really tried to understand where he was coming from (but I couldn’t.) Lost me a few times. However I respect a conversation that isn’t emotionally charged with solid content. Thanks for sharing.
Same here.
Agreed!!!
I completely agree. I think there were a few spots where Candice could be more accepting/concede points but overall his mentality is not relatable for me. But I’m glad they spoke and people get to hear two side of an argument.
I bet he knows Juan from Fox News :D
He's an idiot. Leftists will play word games and wiggle out of the idiocy of their positions.
Marc: The government needs to invest in our community
Candace: Government investment doesn't make sense.
Marc: It does
Candace: The government doesn't make any money.
Marc: Actually, I mean invest in the sense of breaking barriers
Candace: Like what Donald Trump is doing right now ?
Marc:
The government does and have investing into communities, like the new deal, the homestead act in which ADOS were excluded from.
I wish that I could hit the thumbs up button on your comment 1 million times because I would spend all day doing it👍🏻
Conspiracy Theorist The government doesn’t make any money, yet planned parenthood receive 60 million annually through government programs.
"Invest" -- just another liberal word for 'taxing people more'... He got caught when she explained the actual meaning of the word and that the gov't is incapable of doing that, so he pivoted to "breaking barriers".
Government doesn't make any money????
She's worse than I thought.
When she asked him “Can men get pregnant 🤰?” And he said “depends”.. Throw it away. Throw the whole interview away 😒😂
😹😹😹😹
Yeah he was ridiculous
@Liam that's a major insult to those with autism
i like the fact i get to hear what the liberals think and it fascinates me they are so out of touch. I think its time the liberals inhabit one part of the earth and everyone else, the other side. Because ill never agree to this crap. Never
That's the part you want to keep... It shows how distorted their perception of reality is.
Plz don't harass Dr. Hill online. He was very nice, don't make him regret having the conversation.
I totally agree with you!
As someone who is no fan of Dr. Hill, I agree. He deserves to be commended for stepping up and coming on. We need more intelligent liberals like him to help reach a common ground for our country.
I won’t harass a man that took a beating the way he just did. Shoot, give me an address to send him some bandaids and ice packs.
She’s not harassing him. What’s happening is that her logic and explanations are more sound and have a better foundation than his counter arguments. So that might make it uncomfortable for many. Most people don’t feel comfortable in confrontational roles especially when it is not reliant on strength or who screams/speaks louder but mostly on the substance of your arguments. But props to him for showing up and elucidating his point of view.
Hunch Burnem calm down. They both had very good points. I’m a fan of Candace but this guy did make some very good points, like the Jewish university in New York and the reasons why it was built. Candace had nothing to say to that.
I can’t believe he said that men can get pregnant. How insane has our society gotten?!
They can
He said some not all men. He was referring to trans obviously.
@@ctjctj8573
How can men get pregnant?
Samuel Kiger in the first ten minutes
@@samuelkiger4869 he says it 10 times in the last 20 min and he says that men can menstruate too
its scary that someone like him is a profesor
One of the most 'amazing' things about this 'brilliant' black man is saying "& we can talk about those..", or "I'll tell you about it..", etc, when Candace asks for examples or clarity or proof... And he NEVER says them! Absolute speaking around issues & denying truths is what he is best at 👏🏽
Loved this interview. Even though they disagree they sat civilly and discussed their points of view. We need more of this
Only because they're both black
#offthemark
Mr Lamont: “They consider race as a factor for admission”
Mrs Owens: “That racist”
Mr Lamont: “It’s racist to consider..”
Mrs Owens: “Race, yeah”
Me: Died
That's literally not what the term 'racist' means. Google it. Then come back.
🤣🤣google, they very book burning entity of this social justice movement.
Yeah, that was too funny.
What’s the time stamp?
@@lifestylewithlexi if you're denied entry somewhere based on your race, that's racist
Get these people out of our learning institutions.
"THESE PEOPLE?" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Murray Williamson lol, these people.. Stop telling on yourself dude..It’s Dr. Marc Hill to you btw and see you in November.. I bet you don’t have a masters let alone a doctoral degree..
100% correct, we should do something to have these "professors" out of our Schools.
@@Id_rather_be_golfing woah, you're getting an education, what a crazy concept
Tyler Lock Yep, everybody crazy but you..You lost me tho...
As a person who worked in university admissions for 2 years of my life, I just want to say what Marc starts saying at 42:45 is absolutely true. Admission into universities is multi-faceted and depending on you upbringing, community and whether or not you have had the privilege of mentorship you may be missing some of the categories they consider for admittance.
"If the solution is worse than the problem, then it is not a solution" bravo Candace
The solution is reform and equality... Its well overdue.
@@LewisJGreyson You mean 'equity,' they are not the same thing. Your equity includes extreme discrimination.
@@LewisJGreyson Now what? Then you should be excited to know that we already have equality! It's a big day for you.
If the solution is worse than the problem then the problem is just reality.
@@LewisJGreyson _"if we have equality"_
Because they want *EQUITY,* not equality. Argumentum ad populum is a weak argument btw, like saying Trump has better ideas than Hillary/Biden/Bernie because more people show up to his rallies.
_"Just because its written into law it doesn't mean those who execute the law honour it"_
Indeed, so what's your point?
_"I've had my own experiences in the corporate world too."_
Congratulations?
_"Now what?"_
I feel like you see this as some sort of mic drop moment? Regardless, I'm not sure it has the desired effect you think it has.
Hill got brutally embarrassed in that discussion. He did a lot of stammering and backpedaling throughout.
He may have to seek professional help for stuttering after this interview! 😂
He wasn't embarrassed; just figuring out how to make his arguments
Yep, Hill backpedals right over the cliff. Where the scavengers await their meal. LOL
I don't think he did. Eveyone collects their thoughts differently, and some may studder or stammer, Candice made good points as did he.
@vertex2100 Yes. Figuring out how to make the points he wanted to make. Even having graduated, valedictorian, from a liberal arts program, having earned A+'s in the courses I took on structural racism and white privilege, and having read the books that are considered canon on those subjects as well as Marxism and Adam Smith's famous book on free market theory, I don't see how loosening admissions standards or penalizing kids who know how to do things for being able to do them is better than allowing families to send their children to a public school outside of the the neighborhood they live in that has cheap rent and allowing charter schools to flourish the way they would if government didn't prevent them from doing so.
Watch Thomas Sowell talk about charter schools. I'm interested to hear what other people think about policies against individual rights to choose schools.
As for black lives mattering, of course black lives matter in the same way that every life matters, but you can't end racism with racism. You can, however, decrease the impact it can have on people's lives, by raising kids in an environment where you show them the beauty of science, art, etc, and you allow them to make their lives through those loves rather than politicizing every aspect of their lives beginning in childhood.
"I don't think people are looking up to George Floyd " Ummm, I have seen multiple murals and pictures of George Floyd with wings as if he is an Angel .
Yet they wanna tear down Jesus 🤮
Saved Sinner Jesus was sin less to makes me sick, please god come and take you’re children home, this earth is sickening TRUMP2020
Are you saying that people are aspiring to be George Floyd?
@@Song_of_Praise tear down Jesus ? Or is it Replace a historically inaccurate depiction or Jesus?
Yeah cuz he was murdered by the state. So we cant eulogize or depict him going to heaven? Have y'all read any scripture? Cuz their were a whole pack of sinners that were murdered and now are regarded as saints.
Mrs.owens you are incredible smart beautiful and just all around awesome I love you. GOD bless you and your family
MLH argument style: "Everything you've said is factually correct but heres why it doesn't matter..."
Even what she was saying wasn't factually correct
That is NOT what he said. What the hell were you listening to?
Jake the Third what are you reading? Megan said “argument style” not “what he said was”
@@paulphoenix7570 Yeah? Whys that? Because you didnt agree with it? 🙄
Paul Phoenix what wasn’t factually correct?
He literally just argued that making a decision based on someone's race isn't racist.
Lol apparently you can only use race if it isnt discrimination but you can use it to let black people in schools they don't make it in.
@no name showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races. How is making a decision based on someone's race not prejudiced?
Or discrimination for that matter
justinreinalda you said every word in your second point but racism lol like he said google
@@HollyG95 I copied and pasted the definition. Its racist.