Building a V22 Osprey - Part 2

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  • @AcertainReality
    @AcertainReality ปีที่แล้ว +4875

    There were moments when it was flying where it looked like the real thing. Awesome job, can’t imagine how much work has gone into it.

    • @Mis73rRand0m
      @Mis73rRand0m ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Unfortunately that encompasses the problems with the real thing as well. The design is compromised by its' center of gravity.

    • @ArmyOfThree1000
      @ArmyOfThree1000 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I work with 22 and if I saw this in the distance I could be convinced that it’s the real thing at some points

    • @trollking202
      @trollking202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn’t see it

    • @JC-wh7jj
      @JC-wh7jj ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It looks real great, but when he goes full forward it becomes a dive bomber 😂

    • @ArmyOfThree1000
      @ArmyOfThree1000 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@JC-wh7jj like the real thing lol

  • @drossi762
    @drossi762 ปีที่แล้ว +707

    Your ability to bring the viewer along the process is unmatched 🚀

  • @RobofGabriola
    @RobofGabriola 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Retired helo test pilot here. I think that the abrupt pitch you experience during deceleration might be rotor flapback. Most helos exhibit similar behaviour to varying extents, and yours is exacerbated by having turned off the stability augmentation. A partial cure might be a VERY slow and shallow deceleration to the hover, with correspondingly low nacelle rates. I agree that the longitudinal movement of CG is also a big factor. Incredible project! Congrats.

  • @LarryNgetich
    @LarryNgetich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

    The Osprey is known to be one of the most challenging aircraft to fly, even with automatic aid, and you managed to fly this in RC mode. Incredible.

    • @AileTheAlien
      @AileTheAlien 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      🤔I'm not sure if it counts as within the scope of his project, but I'd imagine you could put a tiny computer in there, to automate some of the control-adjustment. (For example, near 20:00 when he's got issues switching between forward flight and hovering, and the pitch changes abruptly.) Although maybe that'd require a bunch of speed/accel sensors, and then all become un-calibrated with varying wind speed or something. 😆

    • @wadebrewer7212
      @wadebrewer7212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So basically....he is trying to re-engineer a poor flight design dine by the US military....and the model flies just as bad as the real deal. What I'm saying....lol....its not his design and build being the problem....but the problem lies in the military's poor design. 😂

    • @ezrarichardson279
      @ezrarichardson279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AileTheAlien it already has gyro in it with a PID controller to help out

    • @AileTheAlien
      @AileTheAlien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ezrarichardson279 seems like it needs more accuracy or it's got bugs then, if he's doing a lot of work manually! 😆

    • @ezrarichardson279
      @ezrarichardson279 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AileTheAlien yeah, it’s in an « attitude hold » mode, meaning that whatever manual angle he puts it in, it will attempt to keep. So it’s not like a mavic or something, but that not the point. He wants to basically be able to fly it manually but not need to make all the extra micro ajustements to keep it where he wants it. Most FPV drones are like that for example.

  • @pigeonpigeon7404
    @pigeonpigeon7404 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    Massive congratulations on 1 million subs! I can’t say how much you deserve it!

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews ปีที่แล้ว

      Kids believe views and subscriptions mean something. Defective thinking is going to cost society...

    • @KingOreo2017
      @KingOreo2017 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ShainAndrewswhen they’re making more money off ad revenue than you are, then yeah, views do mean a lot…

    • @16-BITFPV
      @16-BITFPV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      35k views in one hour on an RC video is not bad at all.

    • @16-BITFPV
      @16-BITFPV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShainAndrews Seems to be a grown man, not a kid. I'd bet he's doing ok financially and if he's smart he's saving that TH-cam money for bigger and better things.

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingOreo2017 Mark my words... thinking like that will bite society right in the ass.

  • @jamesblake4659
    @jamesblake4659 ปีที่แล้ว +612

    As a mechanic on these aircraft it makes me so happy seeing someone try to reverse engineer the aircraft and genuinely enjoying the airframe!

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What are your thoughts on the Bell V-280? Anything about the Defiant X? Seems like the FLRAA drama is so heated right now.

    • @TheFlygav
      @TheFlygav ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this airframe has killed more marines then i can count

    • @VLDuckyy
      @VLDuckyy ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@TheFlygav damn, u can't count to 50? that sucks

    • @sassythesasquatch4425
      @sassythesasquatch4425 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@VLDuckyy even you cant count. Its 51

    • @anandjoshi8554
      @anandjoshi8554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was daydreaming about making such things >thinking that, that might help me getting job in one major company !!> how silly of me...its already done by him!!!

  • @nomal8954
    @nomal8954 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    Dude it was so beautiful to see the 3d print come together, really cool toy you’re building yourself there man

    • @cinemaniac9
      @cinemaniac9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are the stl files available?

  • @psycho50mm
    @psycho50mm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When are we getting part 3?!?!?!

  • @Tailgunner1776
    @Tailgunner1776 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    This is amazing, I was a MV-22 Osprey Crew Chief in the Marines with 1700+ hours. This looks awesome!! Great Work!

    • @KhanggiTanka
      @KhanggiTanka ปีที่แล้ว +3

      awesome, did you have the same issues with the balance

    • @seskalarafey9285
      @seskalarafey9285 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@KhanggiTanka Well, i bet the real one has some counterweight, because of their Fuel tanks weight shift, too

    • @Tailgunner1776
      @Tailgunner1776 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Khanggi No, we had airspeeds at which we needed to be at to convert to helicopter mode. However the elevator was also always functional even in a hover the elevator would move. Also we had several flight computers that were constantly monitoring everything assisting the pilots.

    • @steveerossa
      @steveerossa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did the military fix the issues it had with this design? They just gave a big contract to another tilt rotor over the Boeing helicopter.

    • @Tailgunner1776
      @Tailgunner1776 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      steveerossa Army wanted to replacement to the UH-60 if you look at the V-280 there are a lot of similarities. The V-280 has a cabin that is configured like a 60, they definitely improved on the V-22 design though. But, that would be expected on a 30+ yr newer design. V-22 is still an amazing aircraft with lots of military service time left.

  • @elliotw5918
    @elliotw5918 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    This is insane dude. The amount of engineering, r&d, and just general knowledge is really cool to watch. Thank you.

    • @featherdabirb
      @featherdabirb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      R&d?

    • @blaze1148
      @blaze1148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@featherdabirb Research & Development

    • @3xFjoon
      @3xFjoon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@featherdabirb research and development

  • @jasona9393
    @jasona9393 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Even though it didn't like the "fully forward" mode, I still think this is absolutely bloody brilliant and a major achievement. Congratulations.

  • @mr__stormy2141
    @mr__stormy2141 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love watching this series. I am a specialist for this airframe and love watching your solutions to problems you run into

  • @akaHarvesteR
    @akaHarvesteR ปีที่แล้ว +453

    When you consider that the real thing is also able to fold itself up like origami for storage, you realise the engineering of the V-22 is nothing short of a miracle. And as a one-man diy project, Tom's scale model is equally impressive!

    • @damianborkowski7429
      @damianborkowski7429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny thing chap has Tom's avatar but is named differently
      Edit: not sure what it was about but not anymore

    • @emperorsmizz7439
      @emperorsmizz7439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easy to fix the nise dive issue with a weight transfer during rotor rotation

    • @Sev_Auk
      @Sev_Auk ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Very well done Tom. Looking forward to future development.
      PS - The word "which" is not a conjunction :) 15:35

    • @ChrisBars88
      @ChrisBars88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emperorsmizz7439 I was thinking two smaller batteries at the ends of the nacells instead of one bigger battery in the fuselage.

  • @ukaszpiorecki4833
    @ukaszpiorecki4833 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    "The tailheaviness" when you go back to hover mode is not only because of the motors changing their position. When going back to hover mode you still have some velocity thus wings still produce some lift especially when the flaps are down. In real or simulated V22 Osprey you can also observe the same behaviour. It is up to pilot to take a correction for the nose going up on transition. Impressive work!

    • @billmiller4800
      @billmiller4800 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yes! A bit of pitch down may actually work as an offset and a bit of an air brake too

    • @freepilot7732
      @freepilot7732 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Same point is when I lower my flaps I must smoothly had down elevator to maintain my pitch attitude. If I don't the nose will come up way too much.

    • @jim-7965
      @jim-7965 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How about a slower pace for changing between the different modes ?? I can imagin that it is to fast in going forward and backwards

    • @samos343guiltyspark
      @samos343guiltyspark ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@billmiller4800 this is exactly the solution real airplanes use.
      As airplane velocity changes, tail angle changes. Pitching downwards lifts the tail which is good for low speeds where not enough air is being compressed under the tail to give lift.
      Pitching upwards eases off this angle and consequent tail lift for high speeds where there is ample lift under the tail.
      BUT here's a thought, maybe, if the thrust the motors provide is actually good enough, then for full speed mode tilting the tail even more to get the nose to point upwards just a bit should keep the aircraft climbing... Unless the wingspan and/or thrust really is just not good enough.

    • @nekononiaow
      @nekononiaow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed but for a drone, it seems undesirable to require the pilot to do such compensation. It is probably better to have three distinct stabilization mechanisms: one for rotor mode, one for forward mode and one for transition mode where pitch is used to compensate while the rotors tilt.

  • @Mr89Falcon
    @Mr89Falcon ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You’re a wizard, Tom! Astounding problem-solving abilities, both in the physics of flight as well as the 3D printing issues. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your videos!!

  • @Alluvian567
    @Alluvian567 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see a part whenever you come up with some ideas/time to work on them. Really impressed with the cad to get it to print/slice so well in vase mode. Love it, congrats on getting it this far!

  • @chris993361
    @chris993361 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Instead of a shifting weight, I can't help but think moving the motors further down into the nacelle with an extension shaft out to the prop would give you a more balanced weight profile in the nacelle that doesn't change when they rotate.

    • @patricksawyer9779
      @patricksawyer9779 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. That CG shift is the big killer.

    • @sargemonkey
      @sargemonkey ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mount them on the wing spar or as close to it as you can. Keep the CG shift from being so aggressive. Might even be better if they were behind the spar. Depends on how much a drive shaft and bearing at the other end weight.

    • @derekmitchell209
      @derekmitchell209 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This is the best solution. It’s simpler than adding a weight shifting mechanism, and the craft ends up slightly lighter.

    • @index7787
      @index7787 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Came here to say this, this is 1000% the move here.

    • @ThePcGamingBoss
      @ThePcGamingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was thinking a counterweight added to the lower section however ^this would add less weight. Great idea

  • @Foddley
    @Foddley ปีที่แล้ว +282

    Would it be possible to mount the motors more central to the pivot, and run a shaft up to the blades? This thing looks breathtaking, you've made an amazing impression of the real thing. I saw a flock of Ospreys once in central London years ago when Obama visited, and i was absolutely blown away.

    • @RiderAnton
      @RiderAnton ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Exactly what I was going to suggest - I'm sure there are challenges with designing it that way but it may be simpler than adding a system to shift the battery around

    • @stevejackson8060
      @stevejackson8060 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Was also about to make the same suggestion. This might also help with full forward flight mode as well, as the centre of mass isn't shifted forward.

    • @KptnAutismus
      @KptnAutismus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i think there would be an insane amount of drag and slop in such a system, it would make the motor-pulsing part very hard. the weight shifting via moving the battery is more plausible imo.

    • @BladeScraper
      @BladeScraper ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@KptnAutismus A long shaft and a couple of bearings wouldn't add much drag at all. Plus, the latest design doesn't do pulsing anymore, it's just using regular (ish) props with a fixed angle. I think it could be a solution worth looking into. The main issue I can see with that idea would be the added weight of the shaft in general, but that could be minimized greatly by using hollow shafts. The load on them isn't all that much, RC helicopters almost always use hollow steel shafts these days and the forces there are much much greater. It wouldn't need to be a very large, heavy driveshaft.

    • @RiderAnton
      @RiderAnton ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KptnAutismus it probably depends on the material used for the shaft and how long it would be. A steel shaft offset by only a few inches might not cause too much twisting when pulsing the motors. I think it would be interesting to see tested even if it doesn't end up working

  • @s1ix
    @s1ix ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is incredible work. You are fantastic at explaining your development, and the pace is perfect. Liked and subscribed. Thanks!

  • @koshpavel
    @koshpavel ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely amazing project! Love the printing technique you're using, as well as the process of testing all the different ways of vectoring the thrust!

  • @DZARO
    @DZARO ปีที่แล้ว +1693

    *Improvement suggestions:*
    I would start by increasing the transition time from half-hover to full hover to at least 7 seconds, if not more. A slow transition will help you with the gyroscopic effect created by the rotating props. Secondly, you have a lot of slack in the servo connetion that is controlling your gears for both the rotation of the main axis as well as the rotation of the individual motors. You can fix this by adding some damping oil (such as the one used to dampen the throttle stick on transmitters) to all the those gears or by adding multiple intermediate gears to have a more gradual torque transition. In the shots where you were showing the tilt mechanism working, it was a bit juttery. Finally, ballance the whole motor mount on the axis of roatation by adding counter weights to the bottom / back part of the motor housing. This will ensure that you have no changes in CG when the motors are rotating between hover-mode and forwards-flight-mode (or any stage in between). Another thing to note is that not only are the props are actying as a gyroscope, pulling the body down when you change orientation, but your whole body-wing system has to oppose the motion of the motor mounts rortating in the opposite direction. You can easily do this by removing one gear and just ballancing while the whole thing is free rotating. Alternatively, as suggested by @Cassius Wilhelm, you could add two separate batteries as counter weights. But make sure you have enough mass in the centre of the aircraft because if you make the arms too big, yaw intertia can become a problem. Try to have a 1-3-1 or 1-2-1 weight ditribution, i.e. first digit for left wing, second for main fuselage and tail, third for right wing. Relatively speakeing, the less mass you have in the wings and the more mass you have close to the CG, the better you plane will perform in almost every way.
    *Things to check:*
    Make sure that the thust angle is not sagging , i.e. becoming negative, when you transition your motors to forwards-flight-mode and make sure that you have disabled the two servos that control the pitch of the motors themselves. Check that the final position of the motors is not below the the chord line of the wing. If they are effectively pointed down, then just adjust the endpoint of the main tilting servo to allow to finsh the rotation with a little positive thrust angle.
    *Things to re-design:*
    Just by looking at the wing to body ratio (18:46), I can see that your wings do not have enough surface area for what you are trying to do with it. It is not uncommmon to have a longer chord line when trying to build scale planes of any kind, simply because the wing loading and the generated lift is very different and for a plane like this, you should have as much wing area as visually possible, i.e. if get's too large, it will look strange and no longer "to scale". Just compare the lift-to-weight ratio between the full scale aeroplane and yours and you'll see the point that I'm making.

    • @cassiuswilhelm9640
      @cassiuswilhelm9640 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      For the counterweights I would like to suggest using two batteries, one in each motor pod wired together as that eliminates the need for a dedicated weight shifting mechanism and allows using the weight that would have been on the plane anyways more efficiently.
      Please feel free to add that little idea to the root comment.

    • @Donn29
      @Donn29 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Great points. I don't have much RC experience but I'm wondering if dampening or slowly dampening pitch controls from the radio between modes would help?

    • @dedpilot4756
      @dedpilot4756 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      im glad someone else mentioned counterweights in the motor housing

    • @DZARO
      @DZARO ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cassiuswilhelm9640 I added your comment and tagged you because it is a good idea, but I don't know if this will be very benefitial for roll and yaw stability and overall stability because he uses differential thrust to control yaw in horizontal flight and well as roll in hover mode. You can think about it like this: You and your equaly weighing friend are sat on a seesaw at the park and you are oscillating up and down. The further out you sit and/or the more you weigh, the more force you will require to slow yourself down and bounce back up. If you are light and/or sit towards the middle, you don't need as much force because your rotational inertia is not as high as in the other case. In @Tom Stanton 's case, it would be beneficial to have as little weight as possible in the wings so that when he rolls or yaws, there isn't much roll or yaw intertia, respectively. Also, adding weight far away from the CG will have a huge impact on PID tuning, but he will have to do that anyway. Hope this makes sense. :)

    • @aviafan3350
      @aviafan3350 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah, also bigger wing would be nicer

  • @FeartheLess
    @FeartheLess ปีที่แล้ว +242

    you have no idea how excited i have been for the release of this video
    congrats on 1M as well, it’s well earned and deserved

  • @javacofe
    @javacofe ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just discovered your channel and this VTOL series. Loved the detail and progression.
    V1 "Campervan" VTOL was cute but this one looks the business. Really interesting to see you integrating so many different aspects of software, mechanical, electronic and aero engineering together [successfully] 👍

  • @bladesofthunder9778
    @bladesofthunder9778 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    very nice. The solution to your Centre of Gravity shift during transition is to balance the nacelles so as they move the balance point doesn't shift. you will need to move the motor back as a counter balance to the head. I would even consider mounting the batteries in the nacelles too. Also the swash plate design is a far better method of control as it allows for a constant head speed even in wing borne flight using collective pitch to control airspeed and very precise cyclic control in hover. Suspect to get it fly nicely in all aspects your going to have treat it like a conventional Tandem helicopter and plane rather than a drone. But its is great to see.

    • @unclejoe1116
      @unclejoe1116 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Came here to say this.
      The simplest solution would probably be to add a longer axle to the motors, moving them closer to the pivot point, which also moves more weight much closer to the center of lift and the center of gravity, both of the nacelles and the aircraft as a whole.

    • @benanddadmechanical6573
      @benanddadmechanical6573 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Is there any reason why the motor can’t be mounted at the level on the wing spar and drive the rotor head via a shaft? Still tilt the rotor head but have a universal joint at the rotation axis for the head. The other options you brought up with weight shifting a battery or counter weights in the nacelles sound … overly complex?
      I’d think the only acceptable ‘counterweight’ in the nacelles would be the battery(it’s) them selves.

    • @beratgokkaya4395
      @beratgokkaya4395 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      damm

  • @rockaholictom
    @rockaholictom ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You're definitely practicing the mantra of flying "two mistakes high" it's so cool to see the progress on this project!

  • @TheJttv
    @TheJttv ปีที่แล้ว +99

    That fuselage is a work of art.

  • @thomasmixson7064
    @thomasmixson7064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I often flew in & out of Arlington, Texas Airport. At that time, the V22 Osprey was being built & flight tested occasionally using that nearby non-tower field for flight testing. Was amazed to see it fly, & even more so as the engines were moved from verticle flight to normal horizontal. The thing accelerated CRAZY FAST

  • @madethecreator
    @madethecreator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is absolutely beautiful, i love to see the real efforts.

  • @Dysiode
    @Dysiode ปีที่แล้ว +374

    I'm glad you made it a scale model because it's REALLY interesting to see what kind of challenges the real aircraft designers had to overcome. Obviously they're dealing with much different scales and weights, but still fun to see

    • @wyvernliberatus8474
      @wyvernliberatus8474 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exact to scale models of aircraft will work differently, meaning that challenges will not be the same.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We need to remember the difference between flying and falling with style, as Woody said 😂😂

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rotors on the osprey are definitely larger compared to the body as opposed to this drone

    • @mateusmakrov
      @mateusmakrov ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@jonslg240 true

    • @cinemaniac9
      @cinemaniac9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are the stl files available?

  • @asparagoosagus5954
    @asparagoosagus5954 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I bet that since youre showing how this can be done, others will probably do it too. Like in the future there might be a whole other part of the RC hobby thanks to you. This is really some innovative stuff youve been working on

    • @kuba_szuba
      @kuba_szuba ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree! It is really awesome that he is sharing his knowledge while building it! Amazing!

  • @jst1man
    @jst1man 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very impressive Tom! You got it, can't wait to see the debug!

  • @MagnumN117
    @MagnumN117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing stuff! Well done and this was a great video to watch as well, I was enthralled throughout.

  • @Abishek_Muthian
    @Abishek_Muthian ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Extraordinary engineering, I appreciate the progress in each Osprey video and you taking time to explain every small detail.
    It's also cool that Matt contacted you regarding his design, I wouldn't expect that from some running a commercial business regarding the same.

  • @NicholasRehm
    @NicholasRehm ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I could totally sense your heart racing on that very first transition--best part of working with VTOLs

  • @schmarrenheimer80
    @schmarrenheimer80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is absolutely fantastic. I must've watched your testing flights without blinking even once.

  • @flylear45
    @flylear45 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work Tom. Well executed and thoughtful process.

  • @JackCase
    @JackCase ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This vase-mode printing technique is totally awesome! Seems like something that could be automated and included into slicers in the future

    • @modcolocko
      @modcolocko ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is!

    • @TropicalCyc
      @TropicalCyc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It already exists though

    • @user-yg6nq9lw5g
      @user-yg6nq9lw5g ปีที่แล้ว

      @Buzás András which slicer has it?

    • @user-yg6nq9lw5g
      @user-yg6nq9lw5g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Buzás András No, they don't. OP is talking about the vase mode infill, not just vase mode

  • @JamesLikesCoffee
    @JamesLikesCoffee ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I've been waiting for this part 2 for quite some time!!
    (Congratulations on 1M too!)

  • @kenwebb6971
    @kenwebb6971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Job ! Your a excellent Test Pilot and designer.Thanks for the quality camera work. can actually see what's😎
    happening!

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Falling out the sky is still TECHNICALLY flying - until you hit the ground. So good work.

  • @pierreseptfons
    @pierreseptfons ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That Cg shift could be fixed by offsetting the motor tilt servo to the back of the nacelle and using a linkage instead of gearing. You have plenty of space inside the nacelle so it should be possible.
    In general rotating things should always be balanced, especially if it's a flying thing 😉
    Anyway, awesome project as usual. It would be great if you could show a bit more of the process that goes into the stabilizing algorithm and the command and control.
    Also hope you get to use all these weird rotors in another project.

    • @PapaRomeoAT
      @PapaRomeoAT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had the same thought. Moving the motor back to the center of rotation and using a "drive shaft" to the front of the nacelle where some kind of ball joint (like in a FWD car, I don't know the technical term) sits, to enable the pivot motion of the rotor.

    • @chanceym6000
      @chanceym6000 ปีที่แล้ว

      top comment right here, tom needs to see this

    • @henkel111rus
      @henkel111rus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Motor in nacelle could be balanced with useful weight of additional battery. 😉

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I had the same thought. Also might cheat the motor position and/or the pivot location to help achieve a balanced nacelle. Might lose a tiny bit of scale perfection, but it might be worth it.

  • @surfcello
    @surfcello ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The level of expertise on design for 3D printing and also flight control is just off the charts here. Mad respect, Tom. Would it be possible to mount a couple of small batteries in the bottom end of the nacelles, as counterweights?

    • @clemensjanzarik1473
      @clemensjanzarik1473 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      damn, too late, had the same idea! :D If you put the batteries there, you could even use shorter power cables.

    • @chemistrykrang8065
      @chemistrykrang8065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I just commented the same thing. It seems to be the obvious answer.

  • @Swishy.123
    @Swishy.123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video single-handedly got me into RC planes and helicopters, thank you!
    ❤❤❤❤ Also great video, very informative!

  • @bencole4272
    @bencole4272 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant model that you've created and a well directed video that I really enjoyed.

  • @mathias5618
    @mathias5618 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The fuselage looks absolutely amazing! Would love to see it sanded and painted

  • @ChiefIdiot
    @ChiefIdiot ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I spent a lot of time around V-22s back when I was active duty, and this model definitely seems to behave very close to a real V-22 aside from the lower stability during hover. As DZARO commented, a slower transition time will definitely help negate the gyroscopic effect. I've been excited for the next part of this build, great work!

  • @AVOWIRENEWS
    @AVOWIRENEWS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's incredible to think about the engineering and creativity that goes into building something as complex as a V22 Osprey! The Osprey is such a unique aircraft with its ability to take off and land like a helicopter and fly like a plane. The mechanics and technology behind it are truly fascinating. It's always inspiring to see the dedication and skill involved in such intricate projects. Keep up the great work! 🛠✈🚁

  • @andreafabbro7844
    @andreafabbro7844 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely amazed, incredible work and skills! Superb!

  • @belperflyer7419
    @belperflyer7419 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    What a fantastic project with skills way beyond anything I might be capable of. I've tried flying an Osprey V22 on my simulator with a total lack of success (not that it matters when repairs are a mere key click away!) so kudos for flying your prototype so well. Really well done.

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep I agree, the effort and time put into this project is unbelievable. I would have given up about 7 mins after the idea came into my head.

  • @lennymecca968
    @lennymecca968 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Very nice. I’m a ex Spacex employee/current helicopter pilot. From the video, it looks like it needs more tail pitch authority. It was interesting watch you work through designing a rotor head. The reason that the wind sent your “fully articulated” version into uncontrolled flight would be due to dissymmetry of lift. Very neat project. Well done.

    • @evertaj2438
      @evertaj2438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm curious, how did you go from SpaceX to helicopter pilot? Asking cause both careers are of immense interest for me as I'm studying aeronautical engineering and love the idea of flying aswell

    • @lennymecca968
      @lennymecca968 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@evertaj2438 I got fired for tweets. Don’t work at Spacex. I worked final integration building rockets. Fired for tweets from 2019. Years before I was ever employed.

    • @seanwood5443
      @seanwood5443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lennymecca968 wow thats crazy man elons always talking about free speech and stuff lol only when it suits his petty needs

    • @jeremytheimer7443
      @jeremytheimer7443 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lennymecca968 I know it's not related but do you think your tweets were genuinely bad enough to be worth firing.

    • @jeremytheimer7443
      @jeremytheimer7443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanwood5443 Maybe he said something genuinley worth firing. For example if you were to publicly insult your boss you wouldn't deserve your job. Firing someone for insulting you is different than firing someone for their opinion outside the job.

  • @terrylembke8100
    @terrylembke8100 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is an awesome project , Tom . I've watched you and your projects over the years . I hope that your channel and all its visual proof , that speaks volumes about your creativity and tenacity to follow through with your projects will catch the eye of a great firm to work for . I wish you the best , Tom . I think the movable battery in the fuselage may solve your problem . I hope it does . I want to use some of that resin to bring back a couple of planes that hasn't been made in years . Thanks for sharing , keep designing and building.
    Terry

  • @Yosory
    @Yosory 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is awesome! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @rauldelgadillo8447
    @rauldelgadillo8447 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The way you model in the stiffener ribs is revolutionary. I really hope slicing softwares add that feature and give credit to your idea.

    • @55yxalaG
      @55yxalaG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I, over here, would've just done a basic shell model and let Cura infill the shell. The ribs were a brilliant idea 👌

    • @millll111lllI
      @millll111lllI ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This has been a feature of 3dlabprint aircraft for at least a couple years

    • @daveash9572
      @daveash9572 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think that the plural of software is softwares, in the same way that the plural of lego bricks is not "laygoes", the singular of saving is not savings, and the name of the bit of a race track which isn't curved is not the "straightaways".

  • @SwordFreakPower
    @SwordFreakPower ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Its great for Matt to share his designs with you so freely. I know not a lot of people trying to commercialize would do so to that extent.

  • @originalSPECTER
    @originalSPECTER ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!
    Original Osprey took around 90 seconds to convert from airplane mode to hover mode and vise versus, and it mostly had to do with optimizing lift/airspeed. The fact yours is able to transition so quickly and not violently lose control is actually quite amazing.
    Another thing with the center of balance issue, the V-22 has a heavy driveshaft running through the central wing, so the lacels are not as major of a weight shift to the overall airframe as it is on your model. I suspect you need more powerful motors, thicker propellers and some center of mass adjustments, and I’m willing to bet that you’ll get greatly improved performance.
    Amazing stuff!

  • @Guru_1092
    @Guru_1092 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait to see Tom's artistic skills when it comes to painting and decorating the Osprey! Fantastic work so far! Also, needs some landing gear lmao.

  • @danytoob
    @danytoob ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Hey Tom ... I can't help but wonder what it's like going through life as an actual full fledged wizard brainiac. Simply glorious what you accomplish in a home workshop as the designer/fabricator/pilot. Any single one of those abilities is nearly "unobtanium" for mere mortals such as me.
    Endless thanks for your fabulous content!
    DT

  • @Viper12091
    @Viper12091 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Really an awesome project :) What about adding two smaller batteries to the lower (back) part of the nacelles? I imagine the original has the pivot point around the center of mass of the nacelle and by moving the batteries in there you might automatically shift the battery as needed.

    • @markdriedger9464
      @markdriedger9464 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My first thought also! Use the batteries as the counterweight. And consider the suggestion of a longer shaft on the motor below. Combine these two, and you can probably get the CG to stay put during the transition.

    • @PeterChang93
      @PeterChang93 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markdriedger9464 That would also move the pivot point of the thrust vectoring mech though

  • @aj1265
    @aj1265 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video has popped up in my suggested for a couple months and I'm so glad I finally clicked the video. I love videos like this!

  • @Real28
    @Real28 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has flown a lot of RC planes and flown some crazy ones, this thing looks like it flies AMAZINGLY for a home brew.
    That is seriously impressive. The only thing you need to sort out is lift in forward mode. But hover and half hover looks amazing.

  • @Zorkz
    @Zorkz ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Proud of how far you have come Tom, both in the projects and here on youtube. I followed you when you "only" got a couple thousand views per video. Great to see you get the recognition you deserve

    • @sykuiim
      @sykuiim ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed!

  • @Horus2Osiris
    @Horus2Osiris ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Most impressive! You might want to review the numerous V-22 "incidents" for insight on potential failures before they result in a 'RUD' of your very own, and smash all that amazing work... great job!

    • @ADBBuild
      @ADBBuild ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least it's mostly 3D printed so he can always repair it.

    • @nickademuss42
      @nickademuss42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      one of the most jankiest aircraft, if it wasnt for the billion dollar contract they would of grounded all of them...

    • @Horus2Osiris
      @Horus2Osiris ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickademuss42 Exactly what I was thinking... good translation! 😜

    • @MegaEmmanuel09
      @MegaEmmanuel09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @NitroRustlerDriver Yeah, but when it takes 4 days just for the fuselage, if there were a "total hull loss", the time to repair it adds up

  • @cygmoid
    @cygmoid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing work on this project. Cant imagine the engineering that goes into designing a mission-capable V22

  • @sakibian01
    @sakibian01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man,the work you have done , it's unreal. Sweet build,but I'm impressed with your passion.

  • @KymHammond
    @KymHammond ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Quite amazing really. As I watch you flying it trying to unravel the secrets of its flight dynamics I imagined the original Osprey engineers following quietly along And enjoying this immensely.

  • @KaiseruSoze
    @KaiseruSoze ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow! So good to see and hear the story of your projects. It really makes it real to witness your struggles dips and turns and successes! That was a lot of work! The engineering, the science & the video! Grats!

  • @goldrivers598
    @goldrivers598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so amazing, the amount of knowledge and problem solving abilities in this video is baffling

  • @medeixo9392
    @medeixo9392 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great design and modelling amazing work

  • @Nifty-Stuff
    @Nifty-Stuff ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What an awesome series! Your Osprey looks and functions amazingly well! Great work Tom!

  • @wicketprofessor375
    @wicketprofessor375 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Tom! Your content is so great you get a like by default, even before watching the video(btw, the fuselage looks amazing!

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching these videos and learning more about this makes it all the more impressive to me that we have operating helos and ospreys flying every day!

  • @czarne_pole
    @czarne_pole ปีที่แล้ว

    What a grate build Tom:) Was a pleasure to watch whole process

  • @chrisbrock6056
    @chrisbrock6056 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So cool, great to see this project come alive. On the Osprey the “flaps” are called flaperons since they are a combination of flaps and ailerons. Dolphin spinning numb chucks was the way I always explained to people what the Osprey looks like 😂

  • @banana1618
    @banana1618 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    great work Tom: a joy to watch the development of your Osprey. This video also gives you and everyone an understanding of the problems experienced by the design team of the actual Osprey.

  • @anandsharma7430
    @anandsharma7430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a truly beautiful sight to behold. Super job!

  • @mattban4136
    @mattban4136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those rotors are nothing short of amazing. I was born in 1979. This absolutely blows my mind!

  • @engr.dnomyarnigelfelix3649
    @engr.dnomyarnigelfelix3649 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing! I like how you solved every problem you encountered along the way. That is some awesome engineering! Can't wait to see part 3.

  • @crossthreadaeroindustries8554
    @crossthreadaeroindustries8554 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent slo mo video. So cool to see what really is going on there - the flex of the rotor blades surprised me.

  • @Chester339
    @Chester339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was thinking the same at the end a internal counter wait that can shift so the transition is smooth. Making the battery shift instead is an even better idea would save lots of weight. Great job on the project love it!

    • @kleanish
      @kleanish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      damn really nice idea on using the battery as the weight element. props

  • @williamcaton8432
    @williamcaton8432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding project video! Thank you for sharing! Very interesting!

  • @davidbradley6448
    @davidbradley6448 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done Tom.
    A truly inspiring and educational project.
    Looking forward to your next update.

  • @mozkitolife5437
    @mozkitolife5437 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tom, the 3D printing techniques shown here are impressive. Advanced stuff 👏🏼

  • @NerdGlasses256
    @NerdGlasses256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it's far away, it realy looks like a full scale aircraft. Only the sound gives it away, you made a great job! Also, you can cancel the changing center of mass, when transitioning bact to hover mode, with some moving weight, since you don't need space for passengers or anything.

  • @GronTheMighty
    @GronTheMighty ปีที่แล้ว

    What a nice project, really well done!

  • @s1mphuntr
    @s1mphuntr ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is so nice to see the progression! Looking forward to part 3?!

  • @_seriousrob_
    @_seriousrob_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tom, that flight at the end. Sick! And your thoughts on weight shifting is exactly what came to my mind while watching. Great job!

  • @noredcr
    @noredcr ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible work. It’s fascinating that the simplest solution for the rotors is the likely best here.

  • @owenhart4113
    @owenhart4113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is just so awesome and even beautiful to watch great job

  • @crackedtadacktle1003
    @crackedtadacktle1003 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love these types types of videos, and this ones the best I've seen in a while. Thank you :)

  • @josephcrowshaw950
    @josephcrowshaw950 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome build! Perhaps moving the motors closer to the pivot point and using an extended (supported) shaft would keep the center of mass closer to the same spot. I'm sure you will find a solution , and I am looking forward to seeing it.

    • @dirtbagsinc.1689
      @dirtbagsinc.1689 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was my first thought but that requires an articulated shaft to maintain his vectoring feature

    • @MrHedemark
      @MrHedemark ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm? Keeping the head assembly and moving the motor back with a fixed axle ending where the motor axle currently ends should not require any extra articulated joints? There seems to be enough space in the nacelle to achieve static balance of the nacelle contents.
      Awesome model!

  • @kilastrika
    @kilastrika ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember getting a technic lego package of an osprey mockup... it simply is such an amazing tech. You'll get this perfected!

  • @DougFunnyJunior
    @DougFunnyJunior ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When i read it right for years, the biggest problem with the Osprey was in the devlopment that they had massiv issue when transiening between the modes, even some test models crashed because of this. Good job to this point, you came as far as the devs from the first development

    • @anandjoshi8554
      @anandjoshi8554 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was daydreaming about making such things >thinking that, that might help me getting job in one major company !!> how silly of me...its already done by him!!!

  • @sswpp8908
    @sswpp8908 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great job so far. Here in San Diego we have 2 Marine bases, Camp Pendleton and MCAS Miramar, which luckily makes Ospreys a very common sight.

  • @blitzar8443
    @blitzar8443 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the coolest thing I've seen this week great job

  • @behnamsaeedi
    @behnamsaeedi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a fantastic work! well done! I noticed a few things that might help you. When you transition to having props to point forward, you are cutting your wing surface to half compared to hover mode. Reason is spinning blades act as a wing surface when your are past hover speed causing something called translational lift. on top of that, when in forward flight mode, the engine is far in front of the wing making it more nose heavy. the lightest weight solution for the engine issue would be to use a longer prop shaft and allow the engine to sit closer to the pivot of the engine enclosures.

  • @k7y
    @k7y ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Move the motors (centre of mass) down as close as you can to the tilt point between the wings and engine cover. And use some sort of extension for propellers to clear the top of the engine cover. This should fix the weight shifting issue when going back to hover mode and when in full forward flight.

  • @d0rk467
    @d0rk467 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think it might transition better to hover if you slowed the transition down, you'd have more reaction time to get the imbalance under control.

    • @thila
      @thila ปีที่แล้ว +1

      change the gear ratio ?

  • @rtu_karaidel115
    @rtu_karaidel115 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insane work!!!! Well done!

  • @Simul
    @Simul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This thing is amazing!
    Here's an idea I had, since you seem to also enjoy working with comically impractical means of propulsion:
    Inertial Shifting Helicopter
    Unlike traditional helicopters, this one does not use changing motor speed or rotor angle of attack to vary its lift. Instead, it relies on weights in the rotor system which can move in or out, closer or further from the center of rotation, thus affecting moment of inertia and exploiting conservation of angular momentum to change the speed of the rotors and therefore the lifting power. This would work similarly to how a figure skater rotates faster when pulling their arms inwards.
    You would need a motor with fixed speed and perhaps a sort of clutch mechanism to allow speed changes to occur without disrupting the motor. Maintaining altitude might also be a problem.
    It's probably stupid, and I haven't fully thought all this out, but let me know if you think the idea has any merit.
    Love your channel. Thanks!

  • @chikosinalo
    @chikosinalo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your videos, your content is well explained and so professional, Keep it up.