How does VIBRATO relate to rhythm? | Q+A

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  • @TachyBunker
    @TachyBunker ปีที่แล้ว +955

    Swung vibrato is the single best idea a Jazzman could have.

    • @juanktrumpet10
      @juanktrumpet10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wouldn't this just be half note bends?

    • @Sean-Ax
      @Sean-Ax ปีที่แล้ว +9

      NOLA metal bands like Down, Crowbar, and EHG tend to do that. (or at least something similar if I'm not getting the exact idea of what you're saying.) I've even picked it up as a habit in my own playing. lol

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Sean-Ax i hear that a bit but imhonestlynot sure because i dont hear it with precise "hits." Honestly we might want to look into some indian traditional singers that come in to jazz because they have practiced a lot their vibrato techniques haha.

    • @Sean-Ax
      @Sean-Ax ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TachyBunker Yeah, it's a lot more fluid and bendy rather than highly precise (which is the overall vibe with NOLA metal). idk what you listened to of my references, but I should specify that I'm thinking of instances like in Down's Bury Me in Smoke. But yeah, overall that is a cool idea for a precise swung vibrato.

    • @TachyBunker
      @TachyBunker ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sean-Ax hm ye. I think music going with the intention of that could be cool, but honestly it's more of a bonus perk, swung vibrato, than a focus point.

  • @rawr4444
    @rawr4444 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    2:22 that is actually incredible when you really listen. it's like the whole band is subtly shaking with excitement under the surface, even though the music is quite relaxed and soft

    • @Zappygunshot
      @Zappygunshot ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's also the vibe (pun intended... or is it even a pun at all?) when you're playing music live with other people. If you've ever paid any attention to humans, you'll know that it's really hard to get them to agree on things; so when you gather multiple of these humans in one spot and things sort of fall into alignment like that, it's a really exciting feeling that I don't think ever gets old.

    • @iykury
      @iykury 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that really impressed me, but i probably wouldn't have even noticed how impressive it is if it wasn't pointed out first

  • @Catefn
    @Catefn ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I would have loved to discuss singer vibrato with you thru different styles of music, son. We have both been so very busy and preoccupied that it wasn’t in the cards. However, I will say that, contrary to some singer comments, good classical singers can, and do, “play” with vibrato such as “intoning” the beginnings of phrases and allowing vibrato to bloom naturally. (Like Fleming does in your example.) She is not “making the vibrato” but allowing it in from the stability of her larynx and subtle, energetically dynamic musical intent. And free movements of the larynx, vocal tract, tongue and breath flow. Singers of early classical music, and this includes early opera, learn how to to sing more “straight tone” without holding the throat muscles and keep a subtle undercurrent of vibrato. Please, singers, don’t try to MAKE vibrato because it is a highly personal vocal characteristic that comes from the state of your central nervous system. And the efficient flow of breath. Any holding of your throat or tongue will become problematic fast.

    • @limeymcfrog1
      @limeymcfrog1 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      So glad you commented! I think this perspective was sorely needed. The vocal mechanism cannot be manipulated in the same way a bass string or a trombone valve can. Singers largely allow and shape the vibrato but the control to have it mimic a certain rhythm is not really feasible. Were the tempo faster I doubt Ms Fleming would be able to or want to speed up her vibrato. To restate/concur with your mother’s point: Vocal vibrato is naturally occurring from healthy, free, and highly energetic singing - the type that allows an unamplified voice to cut through a full orchestra. It is not a pedal or valve or whammy bar that you adjust to the rhythm nor is it really advisable or common practice to think of or adjust it rhythmically.

    • @TheSeeking2know
      @TheSeeking2know ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What about those cultures that utilize a more exaggerated “vibrato” like in Japan (enka, shigin), China (their opera singing).
      Or would you rather call that an ornamentation of sorts rather than vibrato.

    • @erikbrodin2198
      @erikbrodin2198 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mom was also an opera singer hahaha you’re too cool!

    • @Catefn
      @Catefn ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @theseeking2know, I work with a lot of world musicians and singers of other cultures. In training traditions, those are usually considered stylistic and technical choices rather than vibrato. But it’s a great question and I would need to speak with many more masters in various traditions to more fully understand how the word “vibrato” translates in their languages and teaching traditions.

    • @hutchmusician
      @hutchmusician ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great that you’ve commented, I’m off to sub to your channel now. Would you mind just clarifying whether you think conscious control of vibrato is possible to the extent of having it do precisely chosen rhythmic subdivisions in the way that’s described here?

  • @Sean-Ax
    @Sean-Ax ปีที่แล้ว +696

    5:14 "...it was common for Bach to amuse himself and his family by mashing up songs that had nothing to do with one another."
    ONE OF US
    ONE OF US

    • @TheOnlyEHG
      @TheOnlyEHG ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never doubted it for a second!

    • @batti591
      @batti591 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The Space Jam mashup guys are just disciples of Bach. My personal favorite is Dunkstein and Slamough, the mashup of Space Jam and Ornstein and Smough

    • @Sean-Ax
      @Sean-Ax ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@batti591 I can always get down with some Slam Jam mashups; was even just imagining one recently.

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Truly the William Maranci of his time

    • @Sean-Ax
      @Sean-Ax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Howitchewstofeel5gum At a glance, I read "Maranci" as "Macaroni", and I didn't think that to be out of place given that we're talking about people that make silly mashups. lol

  • @artisttommy1994
    @artisttommy1994 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Trained singer here - instruments emulating vibrato is a stylistic choice, but vibrato in the sung voice is a necessary tool to project healthily. Before amplification tech came along there was literally no other way to safely fill an entire concert hall with you voice. If you sing without vibrato, you can very easily damage your voice. Like my soprano friend loves to say "I'd prefer to have my larynx not be in my mouth".
    The execution of vibrato can be stylized, but its presence in vocal performance is a necessity.

    • @DrakodanSRL
      @DrakodanSRL ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's also a natural byproduct of using the vocal mechanism properly, which commonly gets overlooked. As such, all this talk of modifying the "tempo" of vibrato veers further away from healthy vocal practices the more it's followed; the tight and fast tempo used in the initial example isn't a result of active effort on the part of the performer, it's just what natural vibrato SOUNDS like, and changing that sound is modifying what the voice is trying to naturally do. You CAN consciously alter the tempo of your vibrato, but it's not necessarily natural, or healthy.

    • @jvbilodeau
      @jvbilodeau ปีที่แล้ว

      Preach!

  • @JoshLeRose
    @JoshLeRose ปีที่แล้ว +143

    1:55 as a classical tenor, I can almost guarantee you that her vibrato isn't controlled much at all. Us classical singers are trained not to "make" vibrato happen or to control it in any way. It just happens naturally. Whether or not it will naturally sync up with whatever tempo a given piece is not known to me.

    • @ashleydyer3853
      @ashleydyer3853 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      yes agreed. I think Adam over stretched with this commentary. Some singers may have 'locked' in their vibrato with the tempo. But if they are on any level doing it 'intentionally' then it's hyper intuitive and not deliberate. Often hyper controlled vibrato sounds forced.... Swinging sung vibrato sounds like a conceptual/imaginative curiosity rather than any kind of reality... I challenge you Adam to find a singer who can actually control their eoffortless vibrato with that much dexterity. Would genuinely love to hear and be proved wrong!!!!

    • @JoshLeRose
      @JoshLeRose ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ashleydyer3853 Actually I just tried this “swing vibrato” idea. It feels more like a wonky slow trill. There is a technique often used in baroque vocal music that’s used to sing melismas, or long stretches of fast rhythms while still being phrased together. (See: Every Valley shall be exalted from Messiah). It kinda felt like doing that but in a swing rhythm. I could see “swing vibrato” being used as an effect but not much more than that. As for notating it, that’s another story lol

    • @jvbilodeau
      @jvbilodeau ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Adam simply has a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole concept of vibrato. It’s very frustrating that he would make this video with this commentary, implying that vibrato is something singers TRY to make… especially when his mom is a voice teacher! Now young singers are going to work to make their voices shake, and completely screw up their technique. I’ve never heard him be so off-base before.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jvbilodeau unless this is based on stuff his mom has said (not saying it one way or the other)

    • @JoshLeRose
      @JoshLeRose ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jvbilodeau he definitely should’ve consulted his mom on this one lol.
      It’s a small error in concept but it makes a huge difference in practice. Singing consists of a million and a half things working properly, and you have direct control of maybe 5 of them Lolol

  • @laurenzpelster2499
    @laurenzpelster2499 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:04 "You get to play with yourself, that's great." Yes Adam, I agree.

  • @billhd
    @billhd ปีที่แล้ว +143

    6:45 A Victor Wooten bit of wisdom often applies... and in this case it is "You don't WORK music, you PLAY it." He offers this advice when he sees folks bearing down and stressing out in ways that, ultimately, work against the goals of making music. Helpful!

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      does he ever actually just play bass in the role of a bassist

    • @Opuskrokus
      @Opuskrokus ปีที่แล้ว

      Victor Wooten is a guru!

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras ปีที่แล้ว

      Um, how about other languages? :D lol, clowns.

    • @billhd
      @billhd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@OdaKa Victor? as well known as he is for being a virtuoso solo and feature player, he's still the best pocket straight ahead bass player I've ever seen. Check him out playing with his brothers some time or even when he and Roy are grooving as the rhythm section in the Flecktones and you'll hear it.

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billhd ahhh, the Flecktones! okay, bet!

  • @jacefairis1289
    @jacefairis1289 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    you know, I had never really *thought* about vibrato being matched to the tempo of the song, but now that I'm aware of it, I can tell my natural vibrato - with vocals or an instrument - is generally some interval of the rhythm. neat! I love it when something that hadn't even crossed your mind becomes super obvious in hindsight

    • @ivanlovrinovic748
      @ivanlovrinovic748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how can you tell? are you actually able to count the oscillations of the pitch? that seems superhuman.

    • @alexandrecarbonel5908
      @alexandrecarbonel5908 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ivanlovrinovic748 metal drmmers dont count all the beats their kick hits, but rather have the feeling of x number of quarternotes being played fast. Its sort of a rythmic chunking. I personally count groups of 3 or 4 for example in the vibrato.

    • @jacefairis1289
      @jacefairis1289 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ivanlovrinovic748 you don't need to count them to hear that they're on-beat lol - if I heard a 32nd-note rhythm on an instrument, I'd be able to tell if it was on beat or not too. same for playing them tbh - fast rhythms are more of a "feel" than counting, it's not like you can count aloud to 32nd notes

    • @ivanlovrinovic748
      @ivanlovrinovic748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You edited the comment now but originally you had a typo and said your vibrato would be an interval of the *pitch*. Thats why i was confused, as pitch are vibrations a whole lot faster than 32nd notes. But yea now I get what you're saying.

    • @jacefairis1289
      @jacefairis1289 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanlovrinovic748 ah, I understand. sorry for the confusion! I definitely can't hear individual vibrations of sound. though sometimes really low and loud bass, about 30hz - the low B on a 5-string bass, or the lowest bass note in the chorus of Billie Eilish's "Xanny" for example - can almost *feel* like individual impacts in your chest, but I certainly can't "count" them
      (most of what you "hear" in such sounds is actually overtones anyways, a pure sine wave at 30hz is pretty faint even at volumes you can really "feel")

  • @lucy101
    @lucy101 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Composing music is a lot like writing comedy. You’re building and releasing tension, you’re repeating patterns and then breaking them unexpectedly, and you’re working with a lot of widely shared themes in a specific cultural context. For me it’s also like painting-I don’t usually think about the chords, I simply choose notes by how they feel in context, kind of like looking at a painting in progress and deciding this one spot needs a bit more of that particular color to balance it out. The biggest reason I’ll actually identify my chords is to transpose a theme to a different key, but I like to alter harmonies when I repeat a theme anyway.
    I also like to add rhythm to long trills by playing one of the notes louder on the beats I want to emphasize. Maybe that’s the pianist’s version of vibrato. 😄

    • @half-arsedmusic
      @half-arsedmusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      totally agree - and in particular with regard to music being like painting. I always think when I do a guitar solo I'm particularly fond of, it sounds like I'm making brushstrokes on top of the music, which is the canvas. The way you attack notes and release them puts me in mind of the way a painter manipulates the brush.

  • @M_M_ODonnell
    @M_M_ODonnell ปีที่แล้ว +100

    My perspective on the "safe major before music" question as someone who didn't have to make quite that decision, since I wasn't committed to music enough to seriously consider it as a career, but who has had a number of much better musicians as friends...several of those musician friends went for double majors, and none of them regretted it. There were three outcomes. They finished both majors, went on to musical careers, and had a second field they could either make a second career in or keep as a personal interest; they finished both majors, decided they didn't want the life path that going into music professionally would mean for them, and went into another career but kept interested in music as basically professional-level-skilled amateurs; or they decided that they weren't dedicated enough to one or the other major and made the affirmative decision (instead of fear-based, as Adam puts it) to commit to one or the other. (Of course, these were all people who were music lovers and talented musicians, so the ones who chose careers outside music understand music on a deeper level than if they'd never been involved.)

  • @emilyrln
    @emilyrln ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I don't think you should make any life decisions out of fear."
    Damn, I just came here for fun music stuff, but my man throwing down solid advice. This channel is truly a treasure!

    • @deceptiveobnoxious4237
      @deceptiveobnoxious4237 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm afraid of your profile picture 😨

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deceptiveobnoxious4237 oh, no! XD my self-portrait can instill fear in the minds of internet strangers…

  • @migrantfamily
    @migrantfamily ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Knowing when to use vibrato and when not too is a huge part of musicianship, especially for singers. Most great singers have a range of different vibratos to use. On swung vibrato, it can be used to a subtle effect, implying a subdivision that isn’t played, just felt. But it’s probably more common to do triplets.

  • @law_wren
    @law_wren ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's super enjoyable appreciating you appreciating the nuances of pieces in realtime!

  • @tails324
    @tails324 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Play with yourself” -Adam Neely
    Thanks I’ll be here all week.

  • @katabatica
    @katabatica ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for releasing this video on Nebula first.

  • @MRGO0OSE
    @MRGO0OSE ปีที่แล้ว +82

    The plugin Tremcontrol by Goodhertz has a built-in swing feature for the tremolo it adds. Not vibrato obviously, but an interesting thing to play around with in production!

  • @jedidrummerjake
    @jedidrummerjake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your optimism of there being musicians 300 years from now!

  • @matcoffidis1135
    @matcoffidis1135 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I always love how McCartney approached the bass...almost playing it like lead guitar. That whole part in Something is a great example. Even through different verses hell change it up.

    • @theredshirts7245
      @theredshirts7245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think that’s because he was a guitarist (a darn good one), who was relegated to bass- it opened his eyes to something more than the simple bass lines the Beatles started with evolving into a very melodic style. I don’t think he would have come to those lines if he started out as a bass player.

    • @beatrixwickson8477
      @beatrixwickson8477 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke from Become a Bassist makes a pretty good case that Paul's turning point was exposure to Motown and that his playing was inspired James Jamerson's approach. So there's a radical shift from pedestrian 1 - 5 basslines etc to rhythmically interesting and melodic lines from Rubber Soul onwards.

  • @tzor
    @tzor ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your comment in the middle about balancing music as a game and music as work reminded me of a conversation, I had a few days ago with the "board of directors" of my barbershop chorus (which I am currently the director of). Back in December we did a performance for an organization's Christmas party. It was our holiday package which wasn't our strong suit. But one month later I was still approached by people who thought how great we were. Always work to do better but remember that when the audience likes what they hear and are entertained then that's the goal and to do that while being happy as well is a bonus.

  • @MrRundervinkje
    @MrRundervinkje ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I didn't pursue a career in music not because of the fear in income, but the fear of losing enjoyment making music as it turns into a "must" instead of being a "want"

    • @davidtomkins4242
      @davidtomkins4242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true, passion can be killed when a timeclock is involved.

  • @GabMrl
    @GabMrl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm from Clermont Ferrand, the shoutout was a nice surprise! We do love our cheese 🙏

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like that description of bass solo... just a bass line that the audience actually notices.

  • @Parkerdeal
    @Parkerdeal ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wife got me tickets to see Plini in a couple months and I was delighted to see that sungazer is also on the bill! Thanks for everything you do, and can’t wait to see it all live in May!

    • @ryancozzolino7832
      @ryancozzolino7832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The lineup (in my opinion) is stacked for that tour, since I’m a Plini fan, a Sungazer fan, and a Jakub Zytecki fan. Super excited to see them.

    • @Parkerdeal
      @Parkerdeal ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ryancozzolino7832 It totally is!

  • @briandang8427
    @briandang8427 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Joy is just one of many goals in music... I think expressing human experiences more broadly might be how I describe the goal of music.

  • @georgetate6055
    @georgetate6055 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I flat out LOVE (said with lush vibrato, w/NO sexual undertones) Adam Neely's videos! I've played and directed music professionally and taught 2nd grade thru college. BUT I always learn stuff with Adam. He gets music in a really fundamental way and communicates it so well that I recommend his videos unhesitatingly. His explanations and demonstrations are lovely and clear. Makes me want to listen to more great music!
    Thanks, Adam.

  • @txsphere
    @txsphere ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So good to see Adam making videos again and he seems to be enjoying it.

  • @aidenhuckabee784
    @aidenhuckabee784 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It’s always a good day when Adam uploads.

  • @johnmichaelpatrick369
    @johnmichaelpatrick369 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Adam Neely, I'm so happy everytime I see a new video from you... In my opinion you are the best music 'teacher' on TH-cam !!!

  • @marlphil
    @marlphil ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a little suspicious of singers controlling their vibrato...I can really only speak as a trained vocalist instead of an instrumentalist. Certainly the use of vibrato versus no vibrato is a stylistic choice, but vibrato comes from a physiologic feature of the vocal folds and other physical characteristics unique to each singer; it can, of course, be suppressed by choice and even modified to some extent. However, I would say that the choice of speed of vibrato for vocalists is not really considered per se, but rather the natural choice of tempo of the song is selected based on a resonate or compatible harmonic of the singers natural vibrato frequency...especially in the case of Renee Flemming.

  • @SamFugarino
    @SamFugarino ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I' learning mandolin and one of the things I'm struggling with, but improving, is getting my tremolo to fit the rhythm. It may not to be exactly what you are talking about, but it definitely is related. Love the insights.

    • @fernandomaiasilvadias8199
      @fernandomaiasilvadias8199 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed the tremolo has basically the same function as the vibrato: to sustain long notes, making these long notes sound more interesting.

  • @enriquecasas5594
    @enriquecasas5594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a talent to explain things you have! I am learning so much from your videos.
    As a person devoted to science but with a passion for music, I absolutely love what you do. It’s an enormous pleasure to watch you.
    Thanks!

  • @owenmeldon
    @owenmeldon ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow! That's my question at 4:53, thanks so much for answering it!! Love me some #30 myself, definitely in my top 5 but I also love 1, 4, 18 and 22 as well. Such a great answer too!

  • @muulwarf
    @muulwarf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OG Caravan is still unmatched, one of my favourite pieces of music of all time.

  • @devonskaggs8539
    @devonskaggs8539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vibrato is like the hummingbird heart of music

  • @lainewiens
    @lainewiens ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched on Nebula! Love what you are doing!

  • @grantschroeder80
    @grantschroeder80 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "The ultimate goal of music- and art in general- is maximizing joy." This is a really cool philosophy. Especially when it comes to music that is written in sadness, or to evoke sadness. It makes me think of that Pascal quote,
    “All men seek happiness. This is without exception. Whatever different means they employ, they all tend to this end. The cause of some going to war, and of others avoiding it, is the same desire in both, attended with different views. The will never takes the least step but to this object. This is the motive of every action of every man, even of those who hang themselves.”

    • @Woodsaras
      @Woodsaras ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ye, how bout not generalizing art. Lol.

  • @RaptorSeer
    @RaptorSeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only just found this video. This explains why some vibratos sound great if they are whole number divisions of the main rhythm, and others are just no. There is a window of acceptability with the speed of the vibrato, imo. Also, being able to produce both notes as harmonic with each other, like a major or minor third, helps to enhance the listener experience. Not all vibratos are alike. Thanks for sharing!

  • @martin.lorenz
    @martin.lorenz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a coincidence. Wrote my master thesis on controlled vibrato in pop/jazz singing. Quite interesting for singers to work on their sound and stylistic approaches.

  • @Bober909
    @Bober909 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Generally from my own experience in singing, vibrato is a by-product of good vocal production, you can to some extent modify it or completely get rid of it if you need to sing "straight", but generally you don't "produce" vibrato, I think that's called a tremolo or mordent iirc correctly, where you'd "make" vibrato for it's effect , an example are the classic crooners of the 40's onwards.
    If anything is moving when you're singing with vibrato (beside your vocal folds) I don't think it is vibrato, even though the result might be similar, it is not the same.

    • @mrewan6221
      @mrewan6221 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. Vibrato is a by-product of good vocal production. Yes. (For bel canto singing.) There is no sound at all if there is no vibration. For highly-suppressed-vibrato ways of singing, you're going to need a microphone, a small venue, or a lot of singers. An opera chorus of just 12 singers can easily create a bigger and fuller sound than a choir of 24, and a richer sound than a choir of 60.
      Yes, I agree; if anything is moving (other than the vocal folds), it's not vibrato. Choir singers are often told "no vibrato", when they should really be told "no tremolo", or "no wobble"!
      It's a very, very, very common misconception that vibrato is an _added_ effect, because for all other instruments it _is_ added. For bel canto, it's the other way around, with suppression of vibrato being an advanced technique.

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very interesting point you make about Bach's 30th Goldberg Variation. MTT, conductor of our own SF Symphony Orchestra, makes an incredible point of this, studying everything he can find about composers and every associated with the origin of each piece his orchestra performs. Watching any of his instructional Public Television Series production about various famous composition the orchestra has played taught me this.Fantastic channel, Adam! Thank you, always.

  • @myronalcock4716
    @myronalcock4716 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:59 "The secret to a good bass solo" - Best answer I've heard yet!

  • @KibatsuMusic
    @KibatsuMusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This episode of Q+A was especially helpful for me with things I'm struggling to figure out. The topic about finding your voice on bass because it helps you express your musical ideas better than on piano elucidates so much because I also debated switching to piano. I also struggled with the duality of being an engineer and a musician. I always thought I had to pick only one but I simply can't because I have equal passion in both and that's okay and achievable. Always learning something from this channel. Thank you!

  • @ronbarzilai5705
    @ronbarzilai5705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Benny Greb held a masterclass where I live a few years back and I attended. He said the same thing about taking music seriously, but not taking himself very seriously.
    My mind was blown when he said that, it made so much sense to me.

  • @dralithi
    @dralithi ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally googled "the lick" and realized you're using it in your video section transitions - well played.

  • @boockar
    @boockar ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your definition of a bass solo ! that's what I tend to go for and sometimes i think"well that's not really a solo is it ?" but it still does sound like a solo just because it was made to be noticed

  • @jloveys
    @jloveys ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudos to your friend for saying no to jazz and becoming a captain!

  • @TheUnderscore_
    @TheUnderscore_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the perfect time for me to watch Adam Neely vids again, since I just started practicing vibrato on my double bass. I just did what felt natural trying to imitate my voice when I sing, but finding a shortcut through this video seems much... easier.

  • @AidanMmusic96
    @AidanMmusic96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your piece about "no life decisions out of fear" is bold and necessary. Do you have any views on Cal Newport's writing, especially now he seems to be (as I understand it) more actively railing against using passion as the driving force behind career decisions?

  • @MrSharps02
    @MrSharps02 ปีที่แล้ว

    you hit the nail on the head with that last question. joe dart plays like the funkiest 303 in the world

  • @MickeyMouse-el5bk
    @MickeyMouse-el5bk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As autodidact I started in my early 20s with music. I learned by playing and jamming with people. At that age I wasn't interested in forms and rules. Lots of "regular" musicians got annoyed with me. Until I hung out with jazzers who were much more into funk and all kinds of experimental music. Nowadays when I listen to my old tapes I hear the freedom in mind and the potential the creative young mind has. There are polyrhythmic and polymelodic ideas, there is so much. ♥️ I just want to tell youngsters that the rules in art are just the observations of people and you might use them. If not stick to your soul.

  • @yobkulcha
    @yobkulcha ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you mentioned the Glasgow gig. See you there.

  • @sailingstar8176
    @sailingstar8176 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much to absorb here, thank you. The section on leaving your "safe" and doing what you love really spoke to me. I've known this in theory for years, tried to teach it to my children, but never applied it to myself, until this year. Now it's happening! Thank you for the simplicity, subtelty and clarity of your words, they are validation. And I have my Sungazer ticket for Bristol, UK. You'll love Bristol!

  • @postmodernjambox5951
    @postmodernjambox5951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Valid points about career and passion. Im a controls electrician now but started out as a music major. I went on tour and had paid gigs with different bands and found out i despise touring. I like playing with people and composing but i dont have passion for performance. I dont like the profitable parts of music so i do a different field i like a lot too. I hope to find people to play with again but currently i have a fairly profitable, stable, job and a house and stuff. I had difficutly evenly doing anything with an unstable career.

  • @davidgustavsson4000
    @davidgustavsson4000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should interview a physicist or mathematician about the relation between vibrato and uncertainty. Have them show you the Fourier transform of a note with and without vibrato.
    Short tones and vibrated tones are both spectrally wide, lowering the risk that they sound false, which is why when string musicians practice scales they often try to do long, unvibrated tones - or they'll trick themselves they are in key.

  • @mixedstaples8030
    @mixedstaples8030 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember an interview with the Barenaked Ladies, of all bands, saying that what they always tried to do was take the art and act of songwriting very seriously, but not take themselves seriously at all, and I think that comes across in their stuff. Like yeah, they're remembered for goofy songs, but the musicianship and construction, even on their silliest songs, is impeccable.

  • @jannmikoingelrabagogamingc6012
    @jannmikoingelrabagogamingc6012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, wow! This is my first actually knowing that there was an older version of Caravan, really.

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All I know about vibrato is what the LFO on my synths do. This video is so interesting. Great stuff Adam.

  • @AxleCarp
    @AxleCarp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "A bass solo is just a bassline that the audience notices" - I feel like this just took a big weight off my shoulders when trying to solo in a group setting

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I started out on 5-string bass tuned BEADG, but that was really more because I felt more comfortable with the extra width of the 5-string neck. I found that in practice, I very rarely used anything below D on the B string. So, I have decided that for my next 5-string bass, I am going to tune it DGCFBb, instead of BEADG or EADGC, and we'll see how that goes. I'm currently playing 4-string, tuned to EADG, and the only reason I haven't moved it to DGCF is because I don't feel like buying new strings, right now.

    • @yetanotherbassdude
      @yetanotherbassdude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my last band, a stoner/prog metal thing, I used basically this tuning but dropping the low D string to drop-C. Our guitarist wrote everything in drop-C and playing that in standard 5-string tuning was just obnoxious, and I did make a fair bit of use of that high Bb as we only had one guitar so I did a fair bit of harmonising with some of his higher runs. Definitely takes some getting used to and it's terrible for playing any bass parts written for standard tuning, but if you're only doing original stuff then you can write it for how you want to tune so it's definitely worth trying out.

    • @JohnHancotte
      @JohnHancotte ปีที่แล้ว

      If I were to change my bass tuning, I would go even lower to ADGCF. Andrew Gouche uses that tuning. In gospel music, a low Bb would be useful. It is too much to relearn a neck after all of these years. I would keep your tuning as is. I prefer hitting a low D at the 3rd fret rather than an open string, but that's just a personal preference.

  • @bobansak2583
    @bobansak2583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the Captain quote is _____ I was a private yacht captain and early on a musician who also worked in the music industry, as a label PR/A&R guy... so yea...relatable!!

  • @paulivartiainen
    @paulivartiainen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always though of vibrato "fixing" the little inaccuracies in pitch. You got a note that isn't quite there, you add vibrato and the ear interprets it being correct. I never practised it consciously but find myself doing it all the time with my guitar. Vibrato is actually quite essential in heavy metal guitar playing.

  • @brightonvocallessons
    @brightonvocallessons ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to seeing Sungazer in Brighton, UK in March!

  • @cynabel_music
    @cynabel_music ปีที่แล้ว

    i would slightly amend "the ultimate goal of music making is about maximizing joy" to be "the ultimate goal of music making is about facilitating emotions that need to be felt"

  • @rpvermeulen
    @rpvermeulen ปีที่แล้ว

    A great pleasure to watch, as always. And thank you for mentioning Denny Zeitlin. Didn't know him, he is really my kind of pianist!

  • @faland0069
    @faland0069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woah, Adam Neely's voice kind of lined up with the melody at around 14:09

    • @andrejsandal2382
      @andrejsandal2382 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, you're right, and it actually sounds like a pretty intricate syllable pattern in the context of the music!

  • @ellenripley4640
    @ellenripley4640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, Sungazer is coming to Amsterdam. Can't wait

  • @anag9466
    @anag9466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music is about to maximize JOY ! ! ! 🎉 🎉 🎉 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @keneisner3445
    @keneisner3445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fabulously useful video, Adam. Charles Ives never gave up his insurance gig while composing after work.And the jazz-trumpet great Eddie Henderson also got a degree in psychiatry, although he practiced general medicine before moving to music full time, with Herbie Hancock et al. (BTW, Denny's name is pronounced ZAYE-tlin.)

  • @jaywoo5545
    @jaywoo5545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your take on what makes a bass solo is spot in IMO. Break it down and then bring the audience back up to a frenzy. I could be biased, I'm a bass player that prefers to groove than noodle with chops.

  • @TheApeMachine
    @TheApeMachine ปีที่แล้ว

    By far my favorite Jazz Piano TH-camr, NewJazz (I like him because he seems to make everything "simple"), is a bus driver. And I like that. A lot.

  • @CalumCarlyle
    @CalumCarlyle ปีที่แล้ว

    14:23 - that's a pretty good list of characteristics to at least beat in mind for plenty of other instruments playing a solo, too.

  • @bardofhighrenown
    @bardofhighrenown ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a quote by Alan Watts about "seriousness". I don't remember it exactly, but the idea is something like 'What we think of when we say "serious" is solemn reverence, but in reality what you actually want is sincerity."

  • @demian8439
    @demian8439 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:57 THE VOICE OF GOD thank you Adam Neely

  • @DJAsja123
    @DJAsja123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing me Flying lotus, three songs in and the basslines are amazing

  • @Beasonmusicresources
    @Beasonmusicresources ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite way to teach music to my elementary students is by playing games and having fun. There’s so many different versatile ways to integrate games and fun into the learning of music without even realizing that’s what’s really going on. What better way to learn music than through something enjoyable like a game? Thanks for the awesome video.

  • @martinhoward1802
    @martinhoward1802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hound Dog Taylor's song Saide uses the amplifier vibrato as triplets to accompany the drum rhythm shuffle,, So sweet!!

  • @FrostedJr
    @FrostedJr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like an amazing use of modern vibrato use is with a lot of Post Malone music. He has incredible control on songs like "Blame it on me"

    • @kokunst1634
      @kokunst1634 ปีที่แล้ว

      he just uses the pitch corrector vibrato control

  • @snoopyjc
    @snoopyjc ปีที่แล้ว

    haha agree on the low-B - love playing songs that are in B and ending the song with that low-B grounding note!!

  • @pattoocool
    @pattoocool ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE Denny Zeitlin"s score to the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers!

  • @kingfisher1926
    @kingfisher1926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most amazing example I know of vibrato locked to the pulse is in Joanna Newsom's 'good intentions paving company'. Happens several times but the first one is on the lines "And I been 'fessin double-fast/Addressing questions nobody asked". The main vocal is joined by three others in harmony (one at the octave I think), and the vibrato is very clear sixteenth-notes in all parts

  • @nataliebroussard8275
    @nataliebroussard8275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking sooo good Adam. Especially during the vibrato dance.

  • @saberlike659
    @saberlike659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In sort of the inverse of bass solos being basslines that the audience notices, I've found that treating basslines like bass solos makes my songs more engaging. Keeps interesting new stuff happening throughout without having to draw attention to it. Take On Me by A-Ha does this really well too

  • @Dhakadice
    @Dhakadice ปีที่แล้ว

    That "playing a game" comparison made sense to me. In fact, I always thought playing guitar was similar to playing Nintendo.
    You strum/jump/shoot with your right hand and choose chord/direction with your left hand.

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make a video where you're going deeper into the topic of vibrato and explain the different perspectives of vibrato, including pitch, time, timbre, volume etc?

  • @liegon
    @liegon ปีที่แล้ว

    It is so nice to see your reaction to the music. It reminds me of what a conductor does (besides conducting the orchestra), it can really show what to pay attention to.

  • @FunkAndFluff
    @FunkAndFluff ปีที่แล้ว

    I also love Duke Ellington so much that I get distracted talking about how much I love Duke Ellington.

  • @justanmpowereddude5021
    @justanmpowereddude5021 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lick is everything 🎹

  • @burning_KFC
    @burning_KFC ปีที่แล้ว

    As always writing a comment to support the channel

  • @1953bassman
    @1953bassman ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one school of thought that says playing it safe and getting "something to fall back on" takes away the drive to succeed at being a professional musician. But the reality for a lot of musicians is that they don't all earn enough to support a family, or even themselves.
    As someone who did find another career (electronics) to bring in the bacon, I did develop a strong connection to that field. I found it to be closely related to music in some ways since musicians do use a lot of electronic devices, amps and recording equipment etc., and knowing one helps with the other.
    And looking for a safe career to earn a better living can backfire if that safe career isn't really that safe.

  • @Jasper_the_Cat
    @Jasper_the_Cat ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe the great Brazilian composer Guinga was a practicing dentist until his 50s, when he switched to focusing on music full-time (although he of course had successes in music prior to that).

  • @FOREVERPOWERMETAL
    @FOREVERPOWERMETAL ปีที่แล้ว

    i cannot stop listening to this awesome controlled vibrato singing, it is mind blowing:
    OPERA PLANET Cecilia Bartoli 'Agitata da due venti' - Vivaldi 4K ULTRA HD

  • @TomboFry
    @TomboFry ปีที่แล้ว

    10:43 Got my tickets a couple of weeks ago - very excited! 🤩

  • @aggonzalezdc
    @aggonzalezdc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I encourage anyone to think very hard whether or not the challenges of a music career are worth it to them, please, never let fear be the thing that makes choices for you.

  • @samuelemeryjiujitsu
    @samuelemeryjiujitsu ปีที่แล้ว

    What an epic concept. I think about it so much and no one but you would have made a video about it.

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee ปีที่แล้ว

    I always felt like in a past life I played the drums. I play bass and guitar but I’ve always been interested in drumming, and do a lot of desk/body drumming. Rhythm always came natural to me and I always have these drum patterns in my head, some basic and some complex

  • @RubyandtheEmeralds
    @RubyandtheEmeralds ปีที่แล้ว

    so hyped you're coming to glasgow, i missed your gig in manchester last year!

  • @servvo
    @servvo ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for another superfast instagram q+a

  • @b.y.2460
    @b.y.2460 ปีที่แล้ว

    @7:55 People can't change the fact that we all die. However, we can make each other happy. Thus, more value is given to joy than safety. This is why making a mistake in music matters. Making a mistake and then leveraging that into happiness is what a good improvisor can do.

  • @wxcvbndu51
    @wxcvbndu51 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am French and currently eating cheese while watching your Q&A, so thanks for the compliment about our cheese, I do agree we make some pretty awesome ones