Holy shit, that's a lot of views. Thanks for stopping by. Doom Eternal brought a lot of people here. I think I have to give some more info about what's going on in this video. First, as many pointed it out, if you want to go straight to the fight it's at 1:50 This level was meant to rethink the Icon of Sin boss fight. You can find a post about this, and download the version you see in the video here : www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/65009-zdoom-the-ultimate-icon-of-sin/ You'll see that it's from Sergeant_Mark_IV, the guy who made Brutal Doom. The current version of the mod is here : www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/news/version-21-release-candidate-is-released The level has been a bit reworked since, and is now part of a complete campaign designed around Brutal Doom. That campaign has a few names, the first one being the Hell on Earth Starter Pack. And it can be found here : www.moddb.com/mods/recurring-nightmare/downloads/brutal-doom-hell-on-earth-starter-pack Since Brutal Doom v21, the Icon of Sin boss fight is by default replaced with another one. A new fight of the boss in the original Doom II map. If you want news about what's going on with Brutal Doom, I suggest you follow Sergeant_Mark_IV on Twitter : twitter.com/BrutalDoomGuy I also saw some people saying that the Doom 64 song was playing. It sounds familiar but it's actually from the Playstation version. You can listen to this specific song here : open.spotify.com/track/5EHsSMOcvsNte9rog2ctrI?si=HSrL8vYuSiCvHwMpyJ4nQA The endscreen and voice are also from the Playstation version, and this is why what the voice is saying doesn't match with the text you see. The Playstation port came out in 1995, before the Doom 64 game in 1997. I incist on the "port" and "game" differenciation. Both of the Playstation and 64 soundtracks by Audrey hodges have been realeased on Spotify, with 25th anniversary extended version of the songs : open.spotify.com/artist/28sFukxvVdoIpNiV1nvV0G?si=b4iAtT5XQfu1-HcoUaLjtQ Thanks again.
@@nucleus691 It's both a Remake and a Reboot cause it follows the same basic lore of the first Doom but added and removed some of the lore and that's why Doom Slayer CAN be a different species (cause Doomguy IS Human) cause they changed him from being a full of hatred psychopathic Human to a Badass Revenge filled Demigod. (That's also why i don't think it as a game based after Doom 64. Yes there's alot of thing's supporting that factor but i don't think Satan or who ever is the real leader of Hell would invade Earth two times.)
The virgin Icon of Sin: -Is a wall texture -Can't attack at all -easily killed in most difficulties The Chad Brutal DooM Icon of Sin: -Fully animated entity -multiple attacks -strong as fuck -please don't fight it on realism
@@jackxonlee8193 Icon of sin: *I am the real monster everyone should fear.* Godzilla: *Haha atomic beam go skraaaaa.* Ghidorah: *You will die mortal!* Icon of sin: *Try me, dragon ball bitch.* Mothra: *Ah shit, here we go again.* Rodan: *Fiesta stops.*
They used the Cloverfield monster roar in this mod. It's a shame the original Doom II was made in 1994, had it been made today I imagine the Icon of Sin would look like this instead of a huge face on the wall. Facing a hyper sized demon would have been badass to fight.
"None could stand before the horde but the Doom Slayer. Despair spread before him like a plague, striking fear into the shadow-dwellers, driving them to deeper and darker pits. But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan, of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer, and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains. The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed."
Yeah because notice the Icon of Sin in Doom Eternal is indeed similar to the one seen here because both of them are gigantic demon versions and not the wall texture version.
No no this got adapted from the idea that id wanted to make icon of sin move but cannot due to the limitation of the doom engine so basically it's an idea from I'd
i wish this was the final boss for the new doom game, would've made sense to fight a hyper sized demon since you basically walked on gaint dead ones in Titans Realm
Stephen C. Since it's a sequel to Doom 64, the Icon of Sin has either been dead or remained dormant for a long time. Hopefully he comes back for Doom 5 though, it'd be kickass.
Unlike some, I actually do like the icon of sin battle in Doom Eternal. It's a middle ground between Doom 2 and Brutal Doom's versions: while he's not as mobile as in BD, he's more active, and he still spawns enemies that require your attention. Thus you need to be at the top of your game to deal with everything they throw at you and shoot at him at the same time. Honestly, I don't know what else they could have done with this fight. For anyone who didn't like he fight, please tell me your thoughts.
Oh I dunno, make a final boss that isn't so painfully boring that it has to keep spawning far more dangerous enemies to keep the player from falling asleep while fighting it
To be honest, though everything in this mod was great I can't say the same to Icon of Sin. It was more like, Icon of OP BS. The splash damage was ridiculous, the arena too small, monster spawn too quick and the rockets lighting fast. You have to be Godspeed to beat this ass without mad damage taken.
So Doom eternal took inspiration from this, I'm not really complaining, I'm glad they made the Icon of Sin great in an official way, and not just a fucking wall.
I like the concept of the icon of sin being a head in a wall more because theres so much more interpretation on the players part, is he undergoing upgrades? Is he damaged from a previous battle? Why is his brain exposed. And based on the lore I'd say it makes much more sense that the demons torture the betrayer by turning his son into an immobile "GraveMind" of sorts, rather than an unstoppable machine
mikeman10 oh, there was nothing in the descriptio, sorry. Now there are the links in the description. The wad of the level replaces the level 30 of Doom II wad.
The only way I could beat it was by finding a cheap spot where it couldn't shoot fireballs, and then stunlocking it with everything that shoots fast enough so that it couldn't spawn more demons than the initial 4. It was honestly just disappointing, everything leading up to it was fun, and then the final boss is just a cheap middle finger of ridiculous splash damage and enemy spam. It wouldn't be so bad if the BFG wasn't completely worthless in Brutal Doom probably, I think it took about 4 super shotgun shots to take as much health from this boss as the BFG could do in one shot.
Haha yeah. I ended up killing him by stunlocking it with dual plasma rifles. I agree about the BFG. If there is a problem I have with BD, it is the usefulness of the BFG. Plasma rifles are a much better use of the ammo they both consume.
Managed it on hurt me plenty. Took some two hours to finally not die. I was running around in circles like a rabbit on speed, always only fieing when I was going staright at it, and completley ignoring all the shit he spawns. He kills them anyways.
I see a ton of people mentioning the icon of sin gets stronger the more that it is on earth But are we forgetting about the fact that we just nuked the icon of sin's brain And in Doom eternal it was nailed si hard he collapsed Just saying The moral is "You can shoot a hole in the Surface of hell"
While I really enjoyed the game a lot, I have to admit that I didn't like the bosses at all. They were all just huge damage sponges that would one hit you all the time. I did manage to make my way to this battle but that was where my patience ended as I the brain hitbox seemed to only register whenever it wanted and combines with the ridiculous bombardment of enemies everywhere, the one his kill attack with enormous splash damage just to name a few, I felt this was just someone throwing everything possible at you with no thought to the fun factor. Respect to anyone who could beat it but I sure didn't have any fun with this battle whatsoever and I spend 2 full hours and abused the hell out of the save system but still didn't feel that I got anywhere.
hey I have the project brutality 3.0 for delta touch (Android) for the zandronum port. In the load Game section, the last level of the icon of sin appears for free, but when I load that game nothing happens
Holy shit, that's a lot of views. Thanks for stopping by. Doom Eternal brought a lot of people here. I think I have to give some more info about what's going on in this video.
First, as many pointed it out, if you want to go straight to the fight it's at 1:50
This level was meant to rethink the Icon of Sin boss fight. You can find a post about this, and download the version you see in the video here : www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/65009-zdoom-the-ultimate-icon-of-sin/
You'll see that it's from Sergeant_Mark_IV, the guy who made Brutal Doom. The current version of the mod is here : www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/news/version-21-release-candidate-is-released
The level has been a bit reworked since, and is now part of a complete campaign designed around Brutal Doom. That campaign has a few names, the first one being the Hell on Earth Starter Pack. And it can be found here : www.moddb.com/mods/recurring-nightmare/downloads/brutal-doom-hell-on-earth-starter-pack
Since Brutal Doom v21, the Icon of Sin boss fight is by default replaced with another one. A new fight of the boss in the original Doom II map.
If you want news about what's going on with Brutal Doom, I suggest you follow Sergeant_Mark_IV on Twitter : twitter.com/BrutalDoomGuy
I also saw some people saying that the Doom 64 song was playing. It sounds familiar but it's actually from the Playstation version. You can listen to this specific song here : open.spotify.com/track/5EHsSMOcvsNte9rog2ctrI?si=HSrL8vYuSiCvHwMpyJ4nQA
The endscreen and voice are also from the Playstation version, and this is why what the voice is saying doesn't match with the text you see.
The Playstation port came out in 1995, before the Doom 64 game in 1997. I incist on the "port" and "game" differenciation.
Both of the Playstation and 64 soundtracks by Audrey hodges have been realeased on Spotify, with 25th anniversary extended version of the songs : open.spotify.com/artist/28sFukxvVdoIpNiV1nvV0G?si=b4iAtT5XQfu1-HcoUaLjtQ
Thanks again.
*4 hours ago?!?!*
I was here Pog!
Looked super easy lol...
Doom will eternal thanks to you and others
th-cam.com/video/yYtfuXJBWCgu/w-d-xo.html
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become.
This
Is
@@quantumhaz4770 the painkiller
Wings of steel
Painkiller
@@Padre619 deadly wheels
Painkiller!!
I hope we get to fight the Icon of Sin in Doom Eternal.
Obviously you will. Doom Eternal is just a remake for Hell on Earth.
@@UnchainedEruption but wasn't the icon of sin in doom 2016? And I wouldn't say it's a remake just because it's on earth.
@@UnchainedEruption
EDIT: I got it. I played DOOM Eternal myself multiple times. Dont need 20 replies a day telling me shit I already know.
@@biker3982 Yes he was in Doom 2016 but that counted as a Easter egg not a Canon appearance.
@@nucleus691 It's both a Remake and a Reboot cause it follows the same basic lore of the first Doom but added and removed some of the lore and that's why Doom Slayer CAN be a different species (cause Doomguy IS Human) cause they changed him from being a full of hatred psychopathic Human to a Badass Revenge filled Demigod.
(That's also why i don't think it as a game based after Doom 64.
Yes there's alot of thing's supporting that factor but i don't think Satan or who ever is the real leader of Hell would invade Earth two times.)
Icon of sin:
"Those who want to face me, get yourself armed and ready before exiting the hallway. I hate boring dates"
Kinky
Well at least he knows to bring flowers before the date starts
No, there's no time for that.
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become.
@Pharrell Jones you can't just shoot a hole in to the surface of mars
_RIP AND TEAR....... _*_UNTIL IT IS DONE._*
The virgin Icon of Sin:
-Is a wall texture
-Can't attack at all
-easily killed in most difficulties
The Chad Brutal DooM Icon of Sin:
-Fully animated entity
-multiple attacks
-strong as fuck
-please don't fight it on realism
Managed to beat it on realism.
After dying a couple of times.
I managed to beat it in realism with no deaths! Wanna know? iddqd
Man i just beat Doom Eternal and the entire time i was just like "Huh, this seems so familiar"
i like the huh sound of doomguy from clasic dooms
Considering the only reason we had Doom 2016 was because of Brutal Doom, it makes sense they basically lifted every concept from it, haha
Yeah; nobody's going to convince me that Brutal Doom had zero influence on the soft reboot series.
@@ChainsawGutsFuck If you believe the Brutal Doom is the Only reason Doom 2016 got made, you are either extremely delusional, or a 12 year old.
EvilMariobot of course it did. Brutal Doom was a huge influence for Doom 2016. I don’t have any quotes to back it up but you can tell
*Now is the time two titans meet. As it was written*
Godzilla: *The titan is me.*
@@jonathanflores150 Godzilla:Am I a joke to you?
@@jackxonlee8193 Icon of sin: *I am the real monster everyone should fear.*
Godzilla: *Haha atomic beam go skraaaaa.*
Ghidorah: *You will die mortal!*
Icon of sin: *Try me, dragon ball bitch.*
Mothra: *Ah shit, here we go again.*
Rodan: *Fiesta stops.*
Jonathan Flores Seraphim: holy music stops,
@@g4m3st3p6 Who the feck is Seraphim?
So this is what he would look like if he was on earth much longer
In doom 2, he was on earth only for half a milisecond
1:59 the icon of sin got triggered
He stayed on Earth for too long
Angry as fuck
@@namkha209 he became stronger with the time passing
They used the Cloverfield monster roar in this mod. It's a shame the original Doom II was made in 1994, had it been made today I imagine the Icon of Sin would look like this instead of a huge face on the wall. Facing a hyper sized demon would have been badass to fight.
rainer250 doom eternal wants to know your location
**LAUGHS IN DOOMGUY**
Well hey we probably wouldn't have gotten one of gaming's most infamous Easter Eggs.
Wish granted
They did intend that actually, but technical limitations held them back
Eternal brings the concept to life though
The longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger it will become
Imagine, Eternal.
"None could stand before the horde but the Doom Slayer. Despair spread before him like a plague, striking fear into the shadow-dwellers, driving them to deeper and darker pits. But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan, of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer, and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains. The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed."
Kinda crazy that this actually got kinda adapted into Doom Eternal, with it being the end boss and everything
Yeah because notice the Icon of Sin in Doom Eternal is indeed similar to the one seen here because both of them are gigantic demon versions and not the wall texture version.
@@yusufdunphy5402 Honestly I'm pretty sure the new dooms take heavily from Sergeant Marks work
No no this got adapted from the idea that id wanted to make icon of sin move but cannot due to the limitation of the doom engine so basically it's an idea from I'd
@@carlonalessandro9021 it wasn't on earth long enough to develop extra arms
miko cute This would the same reason both SgtMarkIV and ID created the gigantic monster versions of the Icon of Sin.
Icon of Sin has been eating his veggies lately. He's Buff AF in Doom Eternal.
"To win the game you must kill me, John Romero".
Close. It's "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero"
@@xonxt thanks! let me fix it out.
but know...
THE LONGER THE ICON OF SIN IS ON THE EARTH STRONGER IT WELL BECOME
Oremor nhoj em llik tsum uoy emag eht niw ot.
This looks so awesome. The Icon of Sin as a whole monster instead of just the head paired up with the ending music from Doom 64.
It's actually the Doom PS1 soundtrack. The Doom 64 music is midi, Doom PS1 was orchestral Red Book audio.
i wish this was the final boss for the new doom game, would've made sense to fight a hyper sized demon since you basically walked on gaint dead ones in Titans Realm
Stephen C. I'm sure that the icon of sins in this game is the hyper size demon that you walk on in the new doom.
No,that's the titan demon,if you look up the icon of sin easter-egg,you'll see they're two different demons
Too bad!,in DOOM 2016 final boss is just Spidermastermind
Stephen C. I think it would be in doom 5
Stephen C.
Since it's a sequel to Doom 64, the Icon of Sin has either been dead or remained dormant for a long time. Hopefully he comes back for Doom 5 though, it'd be kickass.
Unlike some, I actually do like the icon of sin battle in Doom Eternal. It's a middle ground between Doom 2 and Brutal Doom's versions: while he's not as mobile as in BD, he's more active, and he still spawns enemies that require your attention.
Thus you need to be at the top of your game to deal with everything they throw at you and shoot at him at the same time. Honestly, I don't know what else they could have done with this fight. For anyone who didn't like he fight, please tell me your thoughts.
Oh I dunno, make a final boss that isn't so painfully boring that it has to keep spawning far more dangerous enemies to keep the player from falling asleep while fighting it
1:54 = "Hello to you too!" XD
Son:Mom,can I get Doom Eternal please?
Mom:But we're already have it at home
Doom Eternal at home:
Still worth It
Best mom ever
Best choice
for the last time
this meme only works when the product at hope looks worse than the actual product
plus this meme is getting unfunny nowadays
Doom Eternal at home still pretty lit doe.
You know you’re in deep shit when there’s like 10 Soulspheres lying around.
Everybody gangsta 'til the icon of sin starts walking
*screams in angry wall texture*
Icon of Sin
Brutal Doom: A skinny-ish creature with at least 4 (or more) arms
Doom Eternal: A buff boi
2:00 lol and saying that to the icon of sin in its true form
Let's be real: you didn't look for this, at all.
REMEMBER: The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become
You are an awesome player and this boss fight is so awesome!
It's with guys like you I want to go back in, thank you. I'll be back. Soon.
I am so glad that you want to go back! No problem! Keep up the good work!
Smoo you wasted all your time writing and editing this and no one cares 😂
@@mattym6837 haha he's a douche
To be honest, though everything in this mod was great I can't say the same to Icon of Sin. It was more like, Icon of OP BS. The splash damage was ridiculous, the arena too small, monster spawn too quick and the rockets lighting fast. You have to be Godspeed to beat this ass without mad damage taken.
this is the hardest difficulty though...
@sicilyvito as I said before nice Protogen
git gud
Kudos for making John Romero scary.
I like the use of the PlayStation Doom theme in this battle - it really adds a "Final Showdown" feel to it.
The sound from the way this level begins keeps me thinking that "The Leper Affinity" from Opeth is about to start playing any minute
*Icon of Sin emerges*
*Immediately fires shotgun*
"Go fuck yourself!"
Very Doomguy behaviour
Holy shit that roar is amazing, I want it now!
What the Icon Of Sin would've been like if Doomguy dident kill him In doom 2 during Surgery
Razor Ray Video Dident?
The bfg probably has a scientific name, but I still call it, "Big fucking gun"
Watching you gather ammo in the beginning hurt my very soul.
So Doom eternal took inspiration from this, I'm not really complaining, I'm glad they made the Icon of Sin great in an official way, and not just a fucking wall.
Although honestly, the one in this video still feels like a wall.
well the glory kills of brutal doom were the inspiration for the one in 2016 (and pretty much why they decided in the end to revive the franchise)
Icon Of Sin: I'm the strongest and undefeatable titan!
Doomguy: *Fuck yourself!*
the looping sound effect for the fire at the beginning sounds like someones node graph is out of date and has to rebuild
Finally, youtube know what I want! I feel satisfied now, thanks for the great video! Maybe you'll get back to doom 👍
I like the concept of the icon of sin being a head in a wall more because theres so much more interpretation on the players part, is he undergoing upgrades? Is he damaged from a previous battle? Why is his brain exposed. And based on the lore I'd say it makes much more sense that the demons torture the betrayer by turning his son into an immobile "GraveMind" of sorts, rather than an unstoppable machine
Now THIS IS DOOM
John, please calm down.
Holy shit, DOOM 64 opening scene music!!!! Epic
This is incredible. May I ask besides Brutal Doom V20 what other mods are you using? Does this battle require a mod or is it part of Brutal Doom?
mikeman10 oh, there was nothing in the descriptio, sorry. Now there are the links in the description. The wad of the level replaces the level 30 of Doom II wad.
Doomguy : looks up
Me : wait that's illegal
Nice use of the Doom 64 music here. Not a fan of it generally compared to the metal soundtracks, but it works here for a big epic bossfight
I promise this is where they got the idea for the actual icon of sin in eternal
Absolutely terrifying
You should use the BD21 XVME 1.3.1 brutal doom 21 monsters addon, so you can have some variants of monsters
This thing is fucking impossible in the Starter Pack.
The only way I could beat it was by finding a cheap spot where it couldn't shoot fireballs, and then stunlocking it with everything that shoots fast enough so that it couldn't spawn more demons than the initial 4. It was honestly just disappointing, everything leading up to it was fun, and then the final boss is just a cheap middle finger of ridiculous splash damage and enemy spam. It wouldn't be so bad if the BFG wasn't completely worthless in Brutal Doom probably, I think it took about 4 super shotgun shots to take as much health from this boss as the BFG could do in one shot.
Haha yeah. I ended up killing him by stunlocking it with dual plasma rifles. I agree about the BFG. If there is a problem I have with BD, it is the usefulness of the BFG. Plasma rifles are a much better use of the ammo they both consume.
played it on realism mode..i cant remember how many times i have died
Managed it on hurt me plenty. Took some two hours to finally not die. I was running around in circles like a rabbit on speed, always only fieing when I was going staright at it, and completley ignoring all the shit he spawns. He kills them anyways.
I think v21 buffed BFG. not certain.
Doomguy is one of the toughest, baddest soldier that ever existed in war video games history!👍
The Doom PS1 music was the best part. SEVERELY underrated.
The music is the best military music EVER
he show the middle finger XD
Awesome vid!
Alternate title: angry man flips off satan and yells “FUCK YOURSELF” before slaughtering him
1:59
My reaction for sure
I think the delay in the release date of DOOM Eternal is due to the fact that Hugo Martin has seen all this.
The scratched up helmet is badass.
1:56
icon of sin:says demonic stuff
doomguy:f**k yourself
iconof sin *roars in angery*
Beat this on tactical realism hurt me plenty, it was painful
This game predicts the future
i wish Ash Williams (evil dead/Army of darkness) or Josh McGrath (Max Steel) or Action Man (1993) be like Doomslayer
I liked this design more than the eternal one, this one is much more metal
I see a ton of people mentioning the icon of sin gets stronger the more that it is on earth
But are we forgetting about the fact that we just nuked the icon of sin's brain
And in Doom eternal it was nailed si hard he collapsed
Just saying
The moral is
"You can shoot a hole in the Surface of hell"
I remember when i would watch these types of videos all the time.
Dude. This shit is is straight classic Doom baller. I would love to play this.
"Warning, Ammunition critical"
30 seconds later
Problem solved!
For those short on time, 1:50 is when the fight starts
This battle is giving me Khan Makyr boss battle vibes.
While I really enjoyed the game a lot, I have to admit that I didn't like the bosses at all. They were all just huge damage sponges that would one hit you all the time.
I did manage to make my way to this battle but that was where my patience ended as I the brain hitbox seemed to only register whenever it wanted and combines with the ridiculous bombardment of enemies everywhere, the one his kill attack with enormous splash damage just to name a few, I felt this was just someone throwing everything possible at you with no thought to the fun factor.
Respect to anyone who could beat it but I sure didn't have any fun with this battle whatsoever and I spend 2 full hours and abused the hell out of the save system but still didn't feel that I got anywhere.
Anyone else wonder why that shotgun is called the Super Fusili?
Wow. Brutal doom looks amazing!!!
such a big improvement over the original level great battle!
Doom 2 Project Remap If only it didn't boil down to cheap splash damage and enemy spam.
DOOM ETERNAL be lookin different.
When the bfg meets the icon of sin.
Bfg:finally a worthy apponent out battel Will be legendary
I died to this fight with godmode active, let that sink in.
I hope to see Doom eternal gameplay on this channel. This channel is pretty awesome.
Wish we could do that to enemies in doom 2016 and eternal.
DOOM IS ETERNAL
"Hello there"
"General Kenobi"
Eric would be proud!!!
I love how the person who made brutal doom noticed that you couldn’t see the helmet.
I beat icon of sin on realistic difficulty, just rocket jump up the wall to the right.
You are almost invincible there.
This looks cooler than the one that is in Doom Eternal.
That's probably because the Icon in Eternal is a total joke
Now try this with Project Brutality 3.0
The longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it will become
In original DOOM II the boss was just a wall, which spawned enemies, and here it is what it should be.
>No black metal on black metal difficulty
Bois need to license some Behemoth for this mod
1:57
HOLY SHIT!
5 years later we got to fight him for real
That is a lot of BFG 9000 holy shit
1:59 steroid rage.
I beaten then Icon of sin in realism mode. Very satisfying
hey I have the project brutality 3.0 for delta touch (Android) for the zandronum port. In the load Game section, the last level of the icon of sin appears for free, but when I load that game nothing happens
Where do demons in hell go when they die?
Dmlaney to Satan's throne to tell them how much of disappointments they are
Personally I think this is better boss fight than what we hot in doom eternal
2:00 lol damn