Ive gotten into Gunpla because of Covid and Ive practically watched every TH-cam video i can find on panel lining, painting, nub removal etc. This is easily top 2 for the markers and their use. I was a boob and bought the markers before I really understood how to use them and this was a perfect explanation of their use. Thank you. Buyer beware to the noobs.
Buyer beware indeed. You'd think the different types have some relation to skills as someone develops, but they're really quite messy in terms of what they can and cannot do. Thank you for your support!
Wow, you’ve put out a really good content here! You are currently the only channel on here that compares all 3 types of gundam marker panel lining and clearly explains in layman term with examples on the output in ENGLISH! I had all these 3 types for a really long time, but never understood what type 2 and 3 function were and end up using only type 1 as it is the one I used and familiar with since the 90’s. Very appreciate your shared knowledge. Kudo to you. Instant subscribed.
Thank you so much! I got quite frustrated myself before, seeing how no one ever talks about what everyone wants to know: how can each one be used in practice - which turns out to be quite complicated to answer so maybe that's why no one bothered:)
As a straight builder that does a little bit of detail and panel lining, this is really great info... Especially in the cases where I'd ever decide to paint my kits later. I had the fine and pour type... Now I know want the brush type for hard to reach panels
Thank you for doing GSI's job for them! I'm completely lost when I go to any of the major retailers's sites and try to find any info. Great video my man :-)
Saved my ass here. I am about to start my first painted kit very soon, but I was worried about my liner type markers eating the paint. Now with this new knowledge, I was able to get the brush type ordered so I won't have to worry about ruining my first paint-job with some panel lining. 😁
I just bought a pour type marker before watching your video🤣It is in brown colour and I don't like liner type marker so I guess I don't really have a choice here. I found that if you point the tip of the marker at the same direction as the panel line when applying it, the ink would flow for a longer distance which means it would take fewer dips to fill the entire panel line and therefore more easy to clean up afterwards.
Thanks for the video with the demostration! I didn't even know of the brush and pour types! I started with the fine point markers when I started Gunpla when I was a kid before I started painting. I still have a few markers around that I intend on making tutorial videos for beginners~
GSI Creos themselves do a shockingly bad job at ever telling people which ones do what and I keep seeing everyone only using that hard-tipped one which is such a shame when the brush type is really the better tool for a builder:)
THIS is what I was looking for. I never got to tell the distinct difference between head types of the markers. I mistook "Fine" for "Ultra fine" thinking I could panel line with the metallic colors. Maybe I could but I'm working with EXPENSIVE plastic and I don't want to screw anything up by not being able to clean the excess properly without smearing or staining.
the best markers I have found are the DELETR NEOPIKO-LINE 3, they are very fine ,from 01 mm to 001 mm yes its not a typo they go as 0.01 mm they are for drawing magna comics.colors are from blak gray sepia and I think anoher 2 -3 colors (green-blue).
Ordered a pour-type set just to cover my bases, but had no idea what they actually were because of course there's no product photos and the HLJ description had nothing lol. I assumed they might work by flooding/capillary action so good to hear that's indeed true. Curious to see if the "eraser" marker works well or if I'll be doing a lot of alcohol swabbing.
The eraser marker does work though it's a bit of a pain to use because it gets dirty and you have to wipe it off with tissue (and wasting bits of it). It's really just rubbing alcohol though so I do think swabbing is in the cards for you:)
@@HobbyClubhouse Just dab the eraser marker on to a clean Q-tip or piece of paper towel. The marker tip stays clean, and the erasing action of the Q-tip or paper towel lasts longer than you might think.
Thank you so much! I found this in my recommendation feed and this has helped me alot I am new to the hobby but I have built a few model kits and was looking for markers to get for the kits I have and kits I wanna get. I just wanna do some strait builds and have fun
In my country there are no modeling stores and it remains in South America, so you have to import everything, making it three times as expensive and time consuming. The pour ones seem to me the most efficient and practical for someone who is starting out, the ink spreads well and leaves a fine line unlike other markers, leaving a more polished and faster result with a single product
Yeah I agree. Unless you are planning to actually paint I would stick with these. Easy to apply and easy to clean off with a bit of alcohol. And the result is always a nice clean line.
9:17 wow, that's litteraly me. I bought 3 pour type markers not a long time ago. But i'm quite satisfied with them. P.S. this is easy to wipe them with your finger, compared to tissue
if I put a gloss topcoat, then use pour type markers, could I clean them up with lighter fluid/ rubbing alcohol / eraser without damaging the gloss coat ?
Can you do a review or tutorial for panel wash technique and the different or best type of thinner to clean them? And can you compare it to panel markers?
Hi Hobby Clubhouse, I’m using Gundam Marker white color marker (the one that you showed at 9:45) to paint on the plastic surface. After it dries, can I use the brush to panel line on top of the white gundam marker surface?
good day hobby club house！. I really am grateful to this video for it is the only one that described all the types of gundam markers in detail. I would like to ask if is it safe to apply the pour type markers on bare plastic?
Pour type Black cant be removed by lighter fluid. Gray can be removed ,u need at least 91% alcohol to do that. Pour type does no damage to plastic unlike yamiya accent
Are the Liner markers (blue ones) meant to come in plastic sealed packaging? Amazon sent me one today and it was just the pen in the envelope and was crushed. Sending it back but started to think if it should have been in plastic packaging if it was new.
Hi Hobby Clubhouse I'm new to this hobby and I was wondering if its safe to use pour type panel liners on straight builds? Without putting any top coat?
Hi great video. I’m actually a Warhammer 40k painter, but see a lot of utility for these in my hobby. I wa wondering whether varnish would give sufficient protection to a layer of acrylic paint when using the pour or liner type of marker?
Want to know how can we brash away with for each pen paint? E.g using alcohol? Also, will they affect other paint, like gundam marker, enamel, water based paint?
You can use just a tissue or a pencil eraser or put some alcohol on a cotton swab / tissue. You can see how each will do in the video:) The Liner Type and the Pour Type will both affect all types on paint (enamel, acrylic, lacquer, Gundam Marker) so you probably don't want to use them on those paints. The Brush Type is friendly to all of them but not acrylic (i.e. water-based) paint. If you have some of the pens, go try them out on the runners of a model:)
The tips can get clogged quite easily and can be very temperamental. Sometimes cleaning it on some plain white paper helps, sometimes drawing on some plastic (like the inner sides of a piece) feventually clears it, sometimes wiping it with a bit of alcohol works. Unfortunately it's hard to know what might work for sure.
@@HobbyClubhouse btw can marker pour type can cause crack or break parts like tamiya accent?i have accent but i won't use it again since it cracks my kits
Not sure whether it was because my Real Touch marker was bought long time ago but I found it more difficult to get the ink flow smoothly in panel line unlike pour type markers. Brown Real Touch marker is also lighter in colour so you need to re-apply ink to get that "panel line" feel. That said, Real Touch marker is perfect for panel lining divots or creating shadows since the ink does not fill the entire area with a uniform deep brown.
It won't be a problem to use Mr hobby topcoat after the pour type marker has dried? I've seen people say Tamiya panel wash can cause parts to break, that's why I'm looking at markers. Nice demonstration btw.
Hm, I've actually never tried spraying top coat over the pour type paint since it's so rarely used. I imagine it would be a gamble. It's definitely capable of making the marker run, but it would depend on if any spots are unlikely enough to have the right conditions. Tamiya panel wash are enamel paints so yeah, they do damage plastic, and it's the same as above. It CAN cause deep cracks even though most of the time the erosion is otherwise not even noticeable. But it's still safest to use them on top of other paint and not on bare plastic.
Hey Mr Clubhouse. Regarding for the Liner Type markers as well as any Oil based Paints for that Matter always use a Top coat 1st before you apply these markers as Paints tend to absorb the oils into the Polymer of the paints. So i hope this message gets to you as well as other people who paint as well. ^^ hope u have a happy CNY thats coming soon. xDDD But overall, Great Video. Also one more tip. when Cleaning up anything thats Oil based be it paints or Markers from the Liner types/Pour types. Don't use Alcohol. Use Turpentine/White Spirits that u can get from either a Hardware store or a Art shop. hope this helps ^^"
If you mean the thinner washes off the pour type or not, it does, but it doesn't do it very cleanly so you might get a bit of a mess, which is the worst
Hm, I think I have some left-over model parts that I can test them with. I'll use the markers on them and post a link to the photos in a pinned comment when I do:)
@@jimpeeRNx Hm, then I think that deserves its own video. I was going to do a video like that anyway though about things to look out for when doing panel lines
x20 a its made from 3 difrrent alcohools and water. here is the company that makes it x20 a its made from 3 difrrent alcohools and water. here is the company that makes it wittmax
Ive gotten into Gunpla because of Covid and Ive practically watched every TH-cam video i can find on panel lining, painting, nub removal etc. This is easily top 2 for the markers and their use. I was a boob and bought the markers before I really understood how to use them and this was a perfect explanation of their use. Thank you. Buyer beware to the noobs.
Buyer beware indeed. You'd think the different types have some relation to skills as someone develops, but they're really quite messy in terms of what they can and cannot do. Thank you for your support!
cannot voice myself enough on how much i appreciate these videos and the rest of your content
Always so kind. Thanks, Marlon my man
Wow, you’ve put out a really good content here! You are currently the only channel on here that compares all 3 types of gundam marker panel lining and clearly explains in layman term with examples on the output in ENGLISH! I had all these 3 types for a really long time, but never understood what type 2 and 3 function were and end up using only type 1 as it is the one I used and familiar with since the 90’s. Very appreciate your shared knowledge. Kudo to you. Instant subscribed.
Thank you so much! I got quite frustrated myself before, seeing how no one ever talks about what everyone wants to know: how can each one be used in practice - which turns out to be quite complicated to answer so maybe that's why no one bothered:)
a very nice surprise to find a video after finding literally NOTHING on what these markers are about. thank you for this!
As a straight builder that does a little bit of detail and panel lining, this is really great info... Especially in the cases where I'd ever decide to paint my kits later. I had the fine and pour type... Now I know want the brush type for hard to reach panels
Always glad to see the video being useful for people! Hope you'll have a good time exploring the different markers for future builds
I definitely bought some of those less than optimal markets before watching this video. Thanks for preventing me from wasting any more money!!
Thank you for doing GSI's job for them! I'm completely lost when I go to any of the major retailers's sites and try to find any info. Great video my man :-)
You'd think they'd want people to know this stuff because so many people buy and use them... Glad you enjoyed the video:)
Saved my ass here. I am about to start my first painted kit very soon, but I was worried about my liner type markers eating the paint. Now with this new knowledge, I was able to get the brush type ordered so I won't have to worry about ruining my first paint-job with some panel lining. 😁
Super glad it helped:) This is exactly the sort of situation I wanted to clear up for everyone since it really is hazy
Thank you so much! This is the best video i have found on gundam markers!!!
Very glad you found it useful:) It's surprising how little GSI Creos explains how each of these markers work
I just bought a pour type marker before watching your video🤣It is in brown colour and I don't like liner type marker so I guess I don't really have a choice here.
I found that if you point the tip of the marker at the same direction as the panel line when applying it, the ink would flow for a longer distance which means it would take fewer dips to fill the entire panel line and therefore more easy to clean up afterwards.
Thanks for the video with the demostration! I didn't even know of the brush and pour types! I started with the fine point markers when I started Gunpla when I was a kid before I started painting. I still have a few markers around that I intend on making tutorial videos for beginners~
GSI Creos themselves do a shockingly bad job at ever telling people which ones do what and I keep seeing everyone only using that hard-tipped one which is such a shame when the brush type is really the better tool for a builder:)
@@HobbyClubhouse will look out for them to try in future!
THIS is what I was looking for. I never got to tell the distinct difference between head types of the markers. I mistook "Fine" for "Ultra fine" thinking I could panel line with the metallic colors. Maybe I could but I'm working with EXPENSIVE plastic and I don't want to screw anything up by not being able to clean the excess properly without smearing or staining.
You have just showed me that I own the wrong types of markers for my painted kits. But good video! Thank you very much for all of the info.
Glad it was useful! GSI Creos really doesn't do much to explain how eaxh marker fits into builds
I recently got into detailing kits . For a beginner like me , I appreciate your reviews !
Very glad the video was a help! It's always exciting when detailing goes right and you can see the improvements in a kit:)
Thank you for this.
the best markers I have found are the DELETR NEOPIKO-LINE 3, they are very fine ,from 01 mm to 001 mm yes its not a typo they go as 0.01 mm they are for drawing magna comics.colors are from blak gray sepia and I think anoher 2 -3 colors (green-blue).
Do they stay on the plastic well? Some inks don't stick very strongly to model kits
@@HobbyClubhouse yes they stay inside the crevices
they ae not sutable to paint over exposed surface
@@nikolaosstavrou5327 That's a shame. Now I'm a bit curious. I'll buy some to try out myself if I ever see any
Ordered a pour-type set just to cover my bases, but had no idea what they actually were because of course there's no product photos and the HLJ description had nothing lol. I assumed they might work by flooding/capillary action so good to hear that's indeed true. Curious to see if the "eraser" marker works well or if I'll be doing a lot of alcohol swabbing.
The eraser marker does work though it's a bit of a pain to use because it gets dirty and you have to wipe it off with tissue (and wasting bits of it). It's really just rubbing alcohol though so I do think swabbing is in the cards for you:)
@@HobbyClubhouse Just dab the eraser marker on to a clean Q-tip or piece of paper towel. The marker tip stays clean, and the erasing action of the Q-tip or paper towel lasts longer than you might think.
Excellent explanation of the markers, I appreciate your content!
"They look indistinguishable" he says while showing the liner type having the so much cleaner lines lol
Dude, I am so glad i watched this video before I pressed "Place order"
Thank you so much! I found this in my recommendation feed and this has helped me alot I am new to the hobby but I have built a few model kits and was looking for markers to get for the kits I have and kits I wanna get. I just wanna do some strait builds and have fun
Glad the video helped out! Once you know how each of these pens work, you'll enjoy each new kit even more
@@HobbyClubhouse I quite enjoy the fine liner
totally green to gunpla but this video is amazingly done, I learned a lot and you earned a sub for sure. Gonna go pick up brush type markers I think!
In my country there are no modeling stores and it remains in South America, so you have to import everything, making it three times as expensive and time consuming. The pour ones seem to me the most efficient and practical for someone who is starting out, the ink spreads well and leaves a fine line unlike other markers, leaving a more polished and faster result with a single product
Yeah I agree. Unless you are planning to actually paint I would stick with these. Easy to apply and easy to clean off with a bit of alcohol. And the result is always a nice clean line.
The best remover for these markers is Tamiya x20A thiner ,just let the paint dry and then with a cotton swab dabed with a little x20a.
Wanna know a secret? The X-20a is actually isopropyl alcohol:) or maybe they mix in some other things? But it's at least mostly alcohol
@@HobbyClubhouse true.. smell is kinda different with the isoprophyl I'm used to.
9:17 wow, that's litteraly me. I bought 3 pour type markers not a long time ago. But i'm quite satisfied with them. P.S. this is easy to wipe them with your finger, compared to tissue
thanks for the great review :) really in-depth vid
I hope I'm not late in the hobby but I find this really informative compared to other with 300K subscribers.
if I put a gloss topcoat, then use pour type markers, could I clean them up with lighter fluid/ rubbing alcohol / eraser without damaging the gloss coat ?
What a great Video! 🤩👍
Thanks for this guide.
Can you do a review or tutorial for panel wash technique and the different or best type of thinner to clean them? And can you compare it to panel markers?
Proud gundam pen user.
Very informative..thank you for your video
Hi Hobby Clubhouse, I’m using Gundam Marker white color marker (the one that you showed at 9:45) to paint on the plastic surface. After it dries, can I use the brush to panel line on top of the white gundam marker surface?
good day hobby club house！. I really am grateful to this video for it is the only one that described all the types of gundam markers in detail. I would like to ask if is it safe to apply the pour type markers on bare plastic?
Yes they are, that's the best use for them in fact because they really hate other paints.
Great video
Thank bro, this helped.
neat comprehensive comparison of pen type liners. Is there a more complete one for pens? gj ty
Pour type Black cant be removed by lighter fluid. Gray can be removed ,u need at least 91% alcohol to do that. Pour type does no damage to plastic unlike yamiya accent
I've got the box set pour. Thanks this great comparison.❤
This videos amazing! Thank you
Glad it was useful to you! Hope you'll be able to draw panel lines without hassle now:)
Are the Liner markers (blue ones) meant to come in plastic sealed packaging? Amazon sent me one today and it was just the pen in the envelope and was crushed. Sending it back but started to think if it should have been in plastic packaging if it was new.
What marker do you recommend if you will put topcoat? But only decals and sticker no paint so just gonna topcoat
Hello, what is the best solvent u suggest to clean the pour type marker?
Would I be safe in using a pour type marker like the GM22 for panel lining? Or any color like green if I decide to do so?
Super helpful
Glad it helped out:)
Hi Hobby Clubhouse I'm new to this hobby and I was wondering if its safe to use pour type panel liners on straight builds? Without putting any top coat?
Hi great video. I’m actually a Warhammer 40k painter, but see a lot of utility for these in my hobby. I wa wondering whether varnish would give sufficient protection to a layer of acrylic paint when using the pour or liner type of marker?
Want to know how can we brash away with for each pen paint?
E.g using alcohol?
Also, will they affect other paint, like gundam marker, enamel, water based paint?
You can use just a tissue or a pencil eraser or put some alcohol on a cotton swab / tissue. You can see how each will do in the video:)
The Liner Type and the Pour Type will both affect all types on paint (enamel, acrylic, lacquer, Gundam Marker) so you probably don't want to use them on those paints.
The Brush Type is friendly to all of them but not acrylic (i.e. water-based) paint.
If you have some of the pens, go try them out on the runners of a model:)
I know that the Pour type will crack ABS. Will the Brush type also crack ABS?
I have the same question (except with the fine pen one instead of brush)
bro,i just bought marker liner type black and i just used on some parts.And Black color become dim. is that normal or how can i repair it?
The tips can get clogged quite easily and can be very temperamental. Sometimes cleaning it on some plain white paper helps, sometimes drawing on some plastic (like the inner sides of a piece) feventually clears it, sometimes wiping it with a bit of alcohol works. Unfortunately it's hard to know what might work for sure.
@@HobbyClubhouse Is it dim because the fan is on?
@rudeus8750 probably not, the tips can dry out even if you're careful with it
@@HobbyClubhouse btw can marker pour type can cause crack or break parts like tamiya accent?i have accent but i won't use it again since it cracks my kits
I have a question. I heard that the pour type markers will ruin abs plastic. Is that true and will the other types also do the same?
Do any of these markers work with ABS plastic?
You have a larger choice of colors for "brush type" markers with their Real Touch Markers line
Oh yeah, those really do work as panel liners, I completely forgot to consider those too. I should do a video on those too some day
Not sure whether it was because my Real Touch marker was bought long time ago but I found it more difficult to get the ink flow smoothly in panel line unlike pour type markers. Brown Real Touch marker is also lighter in colour so you need to re-apply ink to get that "panel line" feel. That said, Real Touch marker is perfect for panel lining divots or creating shadows since the ink does not fill the entire area with a uniform deep brown.
@@OrdinaryEXP you don't let it "flow" you treat them like weathering or pen type markers
It won't be a problem to use Mr hobby topcoat after the pour type marker has dried? I've seen people say Tamiya panel wash can cause parts to break, that's why I'm looking at markers. Nice demonstration btw.
Hm, I've actually never tried spraying top coat over the pour type paint since it's so rarely used. I imagine it would be a gamble. It's definitely capable of making the marker run, but it would depend on if any spots are unlikely enough to have the right conditions.
Tamiya panel wash are enamel paints so yeah, they do damage plastic, and it's the same as above. It CAN cause deep cracks even though most of the time the erosion is otherwise not even noticeable. But it's still safest to use them on top of other paint and not on bare plastic.
Hey Mr Clubhouse. Regarding for the Liner Type markers as well as any Oil based Paints for that Matter always use a Top coat 1st before you apply these markers as Paints tend to absorb the oils into the Polymer of the paints. So i hope this message gets to you as well as other people who paint as well. ^^ hope u have a happy CNY thats coming soon. xDDD But overall, Great Video. Also one more tip. when Cleaning up anything thats Oil based be it paints or Markers from the Liner types/Pour types. Don't use Alcohol. Use Turpentine/White Spirits that u can get from either a Hardware store or a Art shop. hope this helps ^^"
Newbie question: Can these be used on ABS plastic?
No, it should have a warning on the packaging
Does Mr. Color thinner work on gundam marker pour type?
If you mean the thinner washes off the pour type or not, it does, but it doesn't do it very cleanly so you might get a bit of a mess, which is the worst
I noticed that some models have more panel lines then some, and some models have less.
Hi Hobby Clubhouse I'm new from this hobby and I'm wondering if it's safe to use the Gundam markers liner/pour type on bare plastic?
Yes.
What does straight builds mean?
It's when you build a model regularly and don't plan to paint it or do really complicated projects with it:)
Are the brush type safe with gundam marker?
Yes they are, the brush type has a water-based ink which won't erode or stain the alcohol-based ink of normal Gundam Markers
@@HobbyClubhouse great! Thank you for replying
So which do I use for panel lining kits? I’m so overwhelmed
The safest choice is the type with the soft tip shown in the video. It will work without problems in most situations:)
@@HobbyClubhouse
Ok thanks
Can you show some results on your gundams?..using panel lines and gundam markers?...I hit like, I subscribed and hit the bell for notifs 😁
Hm, I think I have some left-over model parts that I can test them with. I'll use the markers on them and post a link to the photos in a pinned comment when I do:)
@@HobbyClubhouse how about a finished entire kit?..instead of just a part?.. 😁🙏
@@jimpeeRNx Hm, then I think that deserves its own video. I was going to do a video like that anyway though about things to look out for when doing panel lines
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I’m lazy I use Tamiya panel line XD
Im using a pour type marker. Its quite difficult to use and to clean.
x20 a its made from 3 difrrent alcohools and water. here is the company that makes it wittmax.
I never knew the name of the company that actually makes them, that's real interesting! So that's why the X20A seems a little nicer to use...
if you search (x20a data sheet) the first is wittmax.I also found gunze colors and thinner the company that makes them.
Hello, I'm new to Gunpla and I have a question, what's the difference between the Thin vs Extra Thin Gunam Markers? And which one is better?
hey what type of alchohol do you use for the pour types
x20 a its made from 3 difrrent alcohools and water. here is the company that makes it x20 a its made from 3 difrrent alcohools and water. here is the company that makes it wittmax
Hey, that's really interesting. So maybe that's why they work a bit better than the regular stuff at home