Brick Bronze copies beating LL is so sad. Considering Bronze Forever was able to finish and wrap up the original story while Loomian Legacy can’t even make a dinner party.
I find it interesting that LL devs apparently can't take criticism. It's by far the best form of feedback you can receive and if you can't take it, why make games at all?
At least the LL devs are about to improve in terms of communication with the community. I believe they can fully improve so they can always listen to the community feedback, and they can reduce the amount of reliance on event content development for the sake of bringing more story updates. Like how Doodle World which had a massive community also lets them make their doodle concepts to the point their concepts would get included in the game as an actual doodle. Considering DW community is filled with many talented artists.
I have given up hope about that already.. especially after they delayed the P2 update 5 hours before its release. The update was great, but the path to get there was incredibly chaotic.
even when the loomian legacy update just dropped I still feel a little upset about the state of this game and the fact that the game is dying quite a lot, I still want to stick with this game no matter what- the fact that this all has been a follow up to PBB has always been what made me hyper-fixate on the game I pray, and I REALLY DO PRAY, that things will be kept on track, otherwise, I’d be a pretty broken man. I will still love this game and my memory of it will last forever but all the unfortunate things and all the drama, and so much else that has negatively affected this game will still hit me hard in the heart :(
I can't say for sure about other creators but I definitely plan on taking a break. I wanna create less serious content cause these review videos are kinda stressful.
This guy is so underrated dude you will reach at least 5 mil subs one day ok? You make quality content unlike some people *Cough cough cough* LaNkYBoX!!!
Idk why but despite not having the greatest impressions on loomin, this video kinda makes me wanna give it another shot. Also love your videoes, kinda curious on your thoughts on the brick bronze clones
I am also hoping for those Brick Bronze clones to get taken down for good, even though there are many of them considering those guys really want to finish the gameplay of brick bronze for fun... (My god even those clones had the completed roria league on it to the point ya can even face against the champion)
I remember playing Loomian Legacy about a year or two ago, and I had so much fun with the game. I really hope it comes back, we need Pokémon on Roblox again
Honestly i was a hardcore PBB Fan cause i always loved Pokemon and couldn't play cause of financial reasons, Roblox was free i had my Ipad and played PBB all day, when it got removed it was so sad, then loomian legacy was announced and i was so hyped, played it and wanted more, updates never came, i said to myself i'd come back to the game after a really long time so content would've stacked up so i could play a lot again, now im 16 and the game is still at the same spot.
In order to solve the game's issues they have to update (Story) faster which means they have to hire more coders otherwise it would just be 1 update per year which can be played from start to finish in less than a week.. 90% if not more of the player-base care about the story more than side events like (Valentine, New years, meteor etc), those should be added only when the game has enough content ready because otherwise they would be sacrificing valuable time in meaningless events that would be over in a short span of time unlike the main story which stays forever. I also think they should interact with the community more and share their progress like they used to do with PBB (Live streaming the building process etc), that helps the community and the devs feel more closer and understating of one another, which would result in less criticism and more direct advice
Okay speaking of which... 😅 I forgot to mention something about Tales of Tanorio's going to be released soon (fun fact: it's used to be a brick bronze clone thing or being a spiritual successor to Brick Bronze lore in a new timeline) Well, there's some old controversy for them which is uhh... I guess they used to be brick bronze clone developers but now they changed their mind after receiving various constructive feedback to make a more original mon game instead. Back when Metal Malachite was a thing, the game was going to be developed as a spiritual successor to Brick Bronze in terms of gameplay and lore... They even managed to bring references to the Demon's Tomb story arc in Brick Bronze for some reason... At some point, they have changed their mind and decided to write a new original story instead, and some of the pokemon elements in the game are all removed to avoid a potential takedown
The thing about event updates that the LL devs don't seem to know is event updates often don't have the previous year's items like halloween duskit being unobtainable or nevermare being impossible to get when its not the halloween update Great for traders but horrible for casual players who look at the wiki then go "why bother?" If half the loomians are impossible to obtain 99% of the time then most people will not care like "oh cool lunar new year bunekki skin, wait I can't get it. then idc" And even then, events are supposed to be celebrations not a "grind your ass off" like the best use of pride month isn't going to pride marches but trying to get a thing in a video game??? come on? same with the 16x loomiboost like lets be real here anyone who sees that and is sane leaves instantly but eh said that before
Hi, so you said you read all the comments, well I hope you read this then. So I watched your video and noticed a few things I could answer which would help you better understand things with Loomian Legacy, first off rainbow reskins are planned to have better odds for future rainbow events so that's good as well as raids are meant to add replay ability, as well as have special items in them (not shown off yet but were talked about), personally I don't see a issue in them being pretty similar to Pokémon's gen 8/9 raids when we were all fine with how DW did there Mega evolution system. The Halloween 2022 event was split into two parts because the devs thought the community would be fine with hunting two reskins and two loomians and that they could add the rest of the content later and everyone would be happy, but players made it very clear that they weren't so now they know. The Gem event was basically identical to the original Geklow event because we all begged SerXia for another Gem event and then she went and asked everyone what we wanted to see in another Gem event and well we all wanted a Geklow 2.0 event so nothing changed. While I know we are all mad that part 2 isn't out, apparently the battle engine needed revamping again as the old PBB code is finally dying (which is good if you see it like that) and Tbradm kept on adding features for some reason so I guess its a win win, if you see it like that but I don't think people need to be at the point where they think we can't trust the devs when we already know a bunch of future story content is already done, its just that part 2 has required so much new code that it has taken this long and making new code vs recycling old code will have a very different completion date. I understand the community thinks the devs should just cancel making events to work on the main game but do you guys even know how long it takes to make these events updates? The only events in 2023 that took time away from part 2 were raids because they plan to add those after route 9, and they wanted feedback on them early, and the rainbow event because they added a reward board feature which they have used more than once, every other has taken basically 0 time to add as you just model the loomians (no code needed) and then add them to every route which takes very little time. As well as this the devs have already worked on multiple new story updates to the point where they are all 80% complete, what's the last 20% in the update you might ask, well I have the answer for you, cutscenes and battles and probably tiny stuff we don't know about. People have forgotten that in the past, the reason why updates took long was because building took over 50% of the development time in a update, fun fact Sepharite city, that one update that took 8 months to complete, yeah it took the devs 5 months to complete the building and only 3 months to script. Now that the nasty building time is removed from every future update (for at least a while) Tbradm no longer needs to wait and he can just start the moment he finishes with a update. Oh but what if the devs take another year to finish route 9, well guess what its just recycled code from here on out (for at least a while) so updates will be releases much much faster. Another fun fact for everyone, the only reason why the beach and part 1 took so long to complete was because we asked after Sepharite for more updates and events, well events and smaller updates took new code and time away from the already long building time, in the end by the time the devs realized they were already half way through the year and Atlanthian wasn't done,. So in the end we got what we wanted, more updates such as weather, and events but it came at a cost which we all regret. Communication has been much better and will only get better for future updates, the reason why it has sucked until not is because if they leaked as much as we wanted them to, by the time the update releases, we would know 90% of the content in the update, but when updates release faster, they can leak as much as they want and we want. The issue of oh the game only has one scripter and that they should hire more, all I can say to that is that they don't need another scripter. Future updates won't requires as much new code and fixing old code as much as this update has required. The only reason why part 2 still isn't out is because they had to work from the ground up instead of just using the same old code for features and such, as a example they updated the battle engine, soul burst (megas) is a mix of both Z moves and Megas, and they added a swimming mechanic. So no they don't need more scripters when future update will release faster because there won't be as much new code to script. The devs won't add features like a voting system until part 2 is completed, they have had so many stuff planned such as fixing hunting but if they were to work on that now instead of part 2, the community would send even more hate despite it being a good update, so once part 2 is released they can work on everything they have wanted to work on for over a year now. This also answers your question about criticism, the devs do take it and do fix things when they are needed, its just that they can't fix everything we want like reworking hunting for f2p players, or item trading until part 2 is done so the community won't jump on them for working on anything else, but because of that it looks like they ignore criticism. Pvp is getting fixed after part 2, they already announced everything planned in that update so we be eating good. Ok now this took me an hour to write, so I really hope you read this and I apologized if there are any grammar mistakes but if you have any questions about the topics I have said, or haven't said feel free to ask me as I would gladly answer any questions. This also isn't a hate comment so please don't take it that way.
I read your entire comment and I honestly disagree with every point you've made, but I think you're entitled to your own opinion. Also, I'm curious: Can you tell me what your source for all this information is?
@@jackzicrosky I can help out with this. I'm not sure exactly if Rainbow reskins will have their odds changed in the future (LuckyHD may have proposed that idea but I have no confirmation). It's been a while since the HW event so I'm not sure on that with that claim ( it being split into 2 parts) The communication has sucked for the most part, you could say they're improving, but I disagree. LTS has said at least twice that they will improve communication & transperacny with their updates and such but didn't fulfill that. SerXia says tbradm doesn't want to go through the hassle of finding another scripter who most likely would have a different coding style than his. The battle engine overhaul is a topic that should be put up for discussion as Tbradm mentioned that in a tweet he made on January 18, 2022: "Loomian Legacy 2021 explained. We knew that Atlanthian would take time to develop. Soul Burst, a decent chunk of story, a Battle Engine overhaul. But it is necessary for things we want to do with the game going forward. We wanted to keep giving you guys content, so 1/4 we tried juggling event development (Sweet Retreat, Cosmiore) with Atlanthian development. We tried the same with simple, frequent updates (Vari). In both cases, it significantly slowed Atlanthian development. We were able to complete the Battle Engine overhaul and a little 2/4 bit of Atlanthian story. Before we knew it, it was October. We couldn't neglect Halloween event (we've said it before, it's our favorite). So here we are. 2022 and still no Atlanthian City update. I want to assure you that this is just a speed bump. 3/4 I am happy to report that Atlanthian development is in a healthy flow. There will likely not be any more updates to the game until Atlanthian is done. Our goal is to be done in March. We appreciate your patience. Once we're past this, there are great things to come. 4/4 " I don't think the devs even worked much, or at least brad on this new coding because he said "I am happy to report that Atlanthian development is in a healthy flow. There will likely not be any more updates to the game until Atlanthian is done. Our goal is to be done in March". this doesn't make any sense whatsoever as they've been saying the same thing on the LTS twitter account for over a year. I can elaborate more in discord dms. my user is nvzxt
I feel like a other thing is doodle world, since the game has more replayability then loomian legacy and it a lot more free to play for hunters and pvp players. Also the devs do communicate with there fan a lot and very clear
I also personally that think that Loomian legacy should have something to interact more with your loomians like petting, giving treats, playing, or giving them baths! Because it could give another’s way of building friendships and I personally wish I could interact with my loomians and show them some love! Like how owners feel towards their pets!
As a competitive PvPer, PvP in itself has gotten stale. Not just grinding for PvPs, but also the actual metagame itself. It's the same Loomians and it has been for the past year, with a few minor additions like when Charonyx was introduced. When it comes to the general playerbase, I've made a lot of the same points that you have in this video. Brad needs to hire more programmers for the game, and I think hiring trusted coders that have worked on bigger games would be an excellent idea to make game development go faster. I personally am not mad at how long it takes to develop games, since I know a bit of scripting myself (It's a difficult and tedious process sometimes), what I am mad it as failure to produce reliable release dates. Soul burst was promised in 2021 and has been delayed more than 8 times by LTS - I don't know why Brad set the bar so high for himself.
And for those brick bronze clones... The reason why Project Pokemon (Doodle World's spiritual predecessor) doesn't receive clones is because it's heavily derived from Gen 1 Pokemon game (Red & Blue), and it doesn't have an unique story like brick bronze. It's meant to be a fangame which feels like a Gen 1 pokemon game being recreated in Roblox. Brick Bronze has so many clones cause Brick Bronze has received a somewhat universal praise from roblox gamers and pokemon fans alike. And they're created because the story or the contents weren't 100% finished. This is why the clones has finished contents but they're worked on not by the LTS team, but rather the ones or the teams who created Brick Bronze clones. I am also aware of some content creators on TH-cam promoting brick bronze clones, it's sad to see these clones managed to exist to this day... Yeah sadly, there are still people who wanting to complete brick bronze's playthrough or abandoned development with their own hands 😢
I hate how LL became just trading simulator. It's no fun it's just "erm, actually, pay money to get the gamma roaming vaporeon jar loomian or you should die" and the devs don't help by making encounters for these "COOL LIMITED TIME" loomians 1/3539572395915832165128935615361395633
Things like what you mentioned are why it's VERY hard to create content around the game. It's just really really stale! Just getting events over and over where the only content is grinding just does not work (for me).
you're so right. I had to rack my brain trying to come up with ways to make THIS VIDEO engaging. (also I hope you're ok with me using your footage in my video. I kinda had to record other people's gameplay since I didn't have any of my own)
I can agree with that. I came to a stop with the 2022 christmas update. Got the soft reset encounter with Celesting and I just did not have the patience to keep going with the event or wild encounters. That feeling leaked over with the lunar and valentine event, and I just haven't really touched the game since then except for the rainbow event for the rainbow pyramind.
@@jackzicrosky Oh I'm 100% fine with you using my clips, if you wanna do it for your future vids. My channel has been on life support for the past few months anyway, but I'm thinking of trying to revive it but the LL devs have made that very hard. Ig I just gotta play something else in the meantime and hope it works.
I haven't played this game since 2022. Even though Atlanthian part 2 is here, it's been so long that I've moved on to new games. I also don't want to get back into the game, and then get dissapointed when the next story update after takes another 1 or 2 years, with about 3 supposed "release dates" which never get met. I once talked about this on Twitter, and got absolutely berrated and insulted by Loomian legacy fans that can't handle how bad the state of the updates in this game have gotten. The LL community is a whole other can of worms which make me avoid this game.
Honestly, you're absolutely right. As a fan of the games, myself, I don't think I'll ever "stop" playing or at least looking forward to new updates, but my god... The community ACTUALLY needs to wake the hell up. I see posts all the time of people defending LTS like their lives depend on it... For what reason? All these devs have done is: lie, mislead and ignore fans. Not something any game dev should be doing. I've already said I'd stop making these kinds of videos, because the devs clearly have paid ZERO attention to them, but I guess this game is gonna remain my little guilty pleasure...
@@jackzicroskyik I’m kinda late but I think another reason that the game is dying is that they keep repeating halloween and Christmas updates, let’s take 2023 for example. Same halloween map, same stuff, same shop. Same with Jolly village. It really becomes repetitive. Atm it has 400 players, before it had 1K players which is sad to see.
Jack Ngl if you want to get that gamma pyramind or gleam pyramind i might be hunting soon for a gamma duskit if you want to hunt with another content creator im down to hunt ngl its kinda boring hunting by your self
I think a big problem is that there's kinda no way for new fans to get into it. Like half of the existing loomians come from events, lets say i want a silver geklow, how much r those things worth now , even? id just feel discouraged seeing how hard it is to climb up the trading value and pvp experience, and im saying this being an og from the very first day. At this point i just don't wanna play it anymore cuz ik im gonna find a dozen new loomians, ask where they were obtained, and surprise! they came from an event that will NEVER come back the same!
Honestly, I have to agree but personally I don't see this as such a huge problem. Events are fine and skins for Loomians are pretty much the only incentive LTS can implement to convince people to play them without making everyone angry. I personally think the events themselves are the problem. Look at all the recent updates LL gets, it's JUST event updates. It's cool to get one custom skin for a Loomian, but then if that's literally the only thing that's available then what's the point? Like when there's hundreds of unique skins for something it's like: "well then my Loomian isn't even special anymore..." LL is just becoming a glorified model showcase...
honestly i really do believe we'll get the new update october i might just be naive but i feel the next question is Whats going to happen after the update? im certain for a like a month it would spike in players but will there be enough replayability. I remember hearing from jamiy jamie that they might release a new soulburst every week so that would be great. because the next update after atlanthian will almost certainly not be here for a year or 2
I must've missed where Jamie said that, but that honestly sounds like a great idea (one soulburst a week) it keeps people invested in the game and curious about what the next one will be, I fear it might be in vain if Atlanthian city part 2 doesn't come out FIRST tho.
I found this video me new here yes we sadly can't trust the devs I can't I want to trust and love the Loomian Legacy devs like I did when the game was Pokemon Brick Bronze on Roblox I know I enjoyed the game a whole lot more when it was Brick Bronze on Roblox back in 2015-2018 to me it's sad Tales Of Tanorio and Eleon Adventures CGG I am most looking forward to playing when they are out might take me away from Loomian Legacy for good I am just very sick of waiting for like 2 years if it's that way for Loomian Legacy Battle Theatre 5, 6, 7 and 8 I feel I won't be able to stick around with Loomian Legacy I feel I'm on my last live with trying to stay with playing Loomian Legacy if faster story updates don't come around if it takes like 2 months waits for story updates I don't like feeling this way I am holding on to extreamly little faith that I got left with this game Loomian Legacy.
Honestly the thing that I really hate is how the brick bronze copies still manage to keep being re-uploaded especially the bigger one’s like the brick bronze forever discord server (as of now) has half a million people this should be catching the attention of like Roblox or Nintendo, I really hope the people re-uploading these games face legal action so they can stop re-uploading these games once and for all, and look I get it for people to keep wanting to play this game but there are some things you just have to let go and these people aren’t understanding that.
@@jackzicrosky yeah I don't believe it either lol trust me. I lost hope after the summer. The game is falling off, but if u were to make this, it would be best to make this before the teases lol
@@epicsweatstuff5139 ...I would've had to go back in time to do that... I only started working on this video after the teasers were released, and I was going to make a recap regardless of any leaks so around now is the ONLY time I could've made this...
Some of the communities are very toxic. Like project bronze forever. In the discord server, I asked why something was removed from the game and the people simply berated and insulted me. I don't know much about the communities of other clones, so maybe I'm being a little unfair by saying "I hate them all" I'm sure there's some clones that have a pretty chill community
This game used to be really good until they stopped making updates and less people kept playing the game, this game was only made because of the ban of pbb which I don’t get because of all the other Pokémon based games haven’t even gotten banned yet which are literally more similar to pbb. I feel like pbb only got deleted because of how popular the game was and they were scared they were gonna loose players from their games to a free fun Pokémon Roblox game.
I Realy Love Loomian Legacy But it been 3 months since i have played this game cuz once a player complted the story they will till the next story ubdate comes out but if they finsch that they do the same thing like last time I always feel depressed if Pl Keep Caling It dead Or that loomian legacy wouldnt make to teh future even tho soem of them a right I think the most importan thing is to add womething that makes grindidng more fun cuz this is a huge problem cuz many games died cuz the grinding gameplay is boring and i wish they could change that
When I started playing a brick bronze clone, I found out that they had actually been pumping out frequent updates with an even smaller team compared to loomian legacy, and it only made me more disappointed in loomian legacy
I didn't like the comment you made about the raids. The complaining about updates were valid. But wantin the raids to be different just for the sake of it being different is stupid. It's like telling every platformer to not have an invincibility powerup or change if because Mario did it first. Just making differences just to stand out can ruin something. The raids in pokemon were fun and is what made a lot of people to keep playing the game after the story was done. Infact, I really wish they made raids more similar to pokemon where you can do it outside of events. I hate how people get mad when GOOD features from one game is in another game of the sane genre. It's kind of with neighborvannias where people started calling games in that genre a "Stardew Valley" clone because it had an inventory.
@@helper809 I actually kind of agree and regret the point I made in this video. At the time it felt kinda lazy, but seeing how it's either that or no updates I'll gladly take the raids. I have footage from my atlanthian city part 2 stream on my channel where I mentioned the same point as you. The event raids were pretty fun, but personally I had no friends at the time to do them with. Then ACP2 came out and I DID have a friend to do the raids with... Only to find out you have to do them with a bot :|
I hope LL dies out tbh clearly LTS has no care about the playerbase nor the criticism. Even when the game updates, we only get around an hour of new content. No point in caring about a game that the creators dont like making
Brick Bronze copies beating LL is so sad. Considering Bronze Forever was able to finish and wrap up the original story while Loomian Legacy can’t even make a dinner party.
The original Brick Bronze did finish the main campaign, all that was left before it was shut down was the Elite 4 and post game
@@richardkirkland6805 I know but the Bronze Forever copy did.
@@kirbydude667it had an elite four? Wow llama train is just lazy asf if that's true
@@ImSnowyyyyy to be fair, they're just adding more to a game that has been worked on before.
@@ImSnowyyyyy But I just hate it when they have 1 CODER for a damn game.
Crazy how this game is almost half a decade old and we still only have 4 gyms
One year later someone: Yo what’s changed?
Everyone: Nothing
I find it interesting that LL devs apparently can't take criticism. It's by far the best form of feedback you can receive and if you can't take it, why make games at all?
Exactly, the criticism should happen if you have to wait an entire year for a new story update
At least the LL devs are about to improve in terms of communication with the community.
I believe they can fully improve so they can always listen to the community feedback, and they can reduce the amount of reliance on event content development for the sake of bringing more story updates.
Like how Doodle World which had a massive community also lets them make their doodle concepts to the point their concepts would get included in the game as an actual doodle. Considering DW community is filled with many talented artists.
I have given up hope about that already.. especially after they delayed the P2 update 5 hours before its release. The update was great, but the path to get there was incredibly chaotic.
even when the loomian legacy update just dropped I still feel a little upset about the state of this game and the fact that the game is dying quite a lot, I still want to stick with this game no matter what- the fact that this all has been a follow up to PBB has always been what made me hyper-fixate on the game I pray, and I REALLY DO PRAY, that things will be kept on track, otherwise, I’d be a pretty broken man.
I will still love this game and my memory of it will last forever
but all the unfortunate things and all the drama, and so much else that has negatively affected this game will still hit me hard in the heart :(
I have a feeling there’s gonna be lots of these videos
I can't say for sure about other creators but I definitely plan on taking a break. I wanna create less serious content cause these review videos are kinda stressful.
This guy is so underrated dude you will reach at least 5 mil subs one day ok? You make quality content unlike some people
*Cough cough cough* LaNkYBoX!!!
Lankybox doesn't make content they make brainrot
Its been like 9 years for 4gyms ☠️
Idk why but despite not having the greatest impressions on loomin, this video kinda makes me wanna give it another shot. Also love your videoes, kinda curious on your thoughts on the brick bronze clones
This guy speaking facts. I also want to see father legacy rise once again but this time to be better than its predecessor
I am also hoping for those Brick Bronze clones to get taken down for good, even though there are many of them considering those guys really want to finish the gameplay of brick bronze for fun...
(My god even those clones had the completed roria league on it to the point ya can even face against the champion)
Atleast they update in 3 days
Oh mb I didn’t mean to comment on ur comment Sorryyy
I remember playing Loomian Legacy about a year or two ago, and I had so much fun with the game. I really hope it comes back, we need Pokémon on Roblox again
Honestly i was a hardcore PBB Fan cause i always loved Pokemon and couldn't play cause of financial reasons, Roblox was free i had my Ipad and played PBB all day, when it got removed it was so sad, then loomian legacy was announced and i was so hyped, played it and wanted more, updates never came, i said to myself i'd come back to the game after a really long time so content would've stacked up so i could play a lot again, now im 16 and the game is still at the same spot.
In order to solve the game's issues they have to update (Story) faster which means they have to hire more coders otherwise it would just be 1 update per year which can be played from start to finish in less than a week..
90% if not more of the player-base care about the story more than side events like (Valentine, New years, meteor etc), those should be added only when the game has enough content ready because otherwise they would be sacrificing valuable time in meaningless events that would be over in a short span of time unlike the main story which stays forever.
I also think they should interact with the community more and share their progress like they used to do with PBB (Live streaming the building process etc), that helps the community and the devs feel more closer and understating of one another, which would result in less criticism and more direct advice
Welp..... that aged fast.... lol
I enjoy your content!!! :D
hopefully when loomian legacy dies the devs realise that the "deconstructive critisicm " was constructive critisicm trying to save the game
Okay speaking of which... 😅
I forgot to mention something about Tales of Tanorio's going to be released soon (fun fact: it's used to be a brick bronze clone thing or being a spiritual successor to Brick Bronze lore in a new timeline)
Well, there's some old controversy for them which is uhh... I guess they used to be brick bronze clone developers but now they changed their mind after receiving various constructive feedback to make a more original mon game instead.
Back when Metal Malachite was a thing, the game was going to be developed as a spiritual successor to Brick Bronze in terms of gameplay and lore... They even managed to bring references to the Demon's Tomb story arc in Brick Bronze for some reason...
At some point, they have changed their mind and decided to write a new original story instead, and some of the pokemon elements in the game are all removed to avoid a potential takedown
The thing about event updates that the LL devs don't seem to know is event updates often don't have the previous year's items like halloween duskit being unobtainable or nevermare being impossible to get when its not the halloween update
Great for traders but horrible for casual players who look at the wiki then go "why bother?"
If half the loomians are impossible to obtain 99% of the time then most people will not care like "oh cool lunar new year bunekki skin, wait I can't get it. then idc"
And even then, events are supposed to be celebrations not a "grind your ass off" like the best use of pride month isn't going to pride marches but trying to get a thing in a video game??? come on?
same with the 16x loomiboost like lets be real here anyone who sees that and is sane leaves instantly but eh said that before
Hi, so you said you read all the comments, well I hope you read this then.
So I watched your video and noticed a few things I could answer which would help you better understand things with Loomian Legacy, first off rainbow reskins are planned to have better odds for future rainbow events so that's good as well as raids are meant to add replay ability, as well as have special items in them (not shown off yet but were talked about), personally I don't see a issue in them being pretty similar to Pokémon's gen 8/9 raids when we were all fine with how DW did there Mega evolution system.
The Halloween 2022 event was split into two parts because the devs thought the community would be fine with hunting two reskins and two loomians and that they could add the rest of the content later and everyone would be happy, but players made it very clear that they weren't so now they know.
The Gem event was basically identical to the original Geklow event because we all begged SerXia for another Gem event and then she went and asked everyone what we wanted to see in another Gem event and well we all wanted a Geklow 2.0 event so nothing changed.
While I know we are all mad that part 2 isn't out, apparently the battle engine needed revamping again as the old PBB code is finally dying (which is good if you see it like that) and Tbradm kept on adding features for some reason so I guess its a win win, if you see it like that but I don't think people need to be at the point where they think we can't trust the devs when we already know a bunch of future story content is already done, its just that part 2 has required so much new code that it has taken this long and making new code vs recycling old code will have a very different completion date.
I understand the community thinks the devs should just cancel making events to work on the main game but do you guys even know how long it takes to make these events updates? The only events in 2023 that took time away from part 2 were raids because they plan to add those after route 9, and they wanted feedback on them early, and the rainbow event because they added a reward board feature which they have used more than once, every other has taken basically 0 time to add as you just model the loomians (no code needed) and then add them to every route which takes very little time.
As well as this the devs have already worked on multiple new story updates to the point where they are all 80% complete, what's the last 20% in the update you might ask, well I have the answer for you, cutscenes and battles and probably tiny stuff we don't know about. People have forgotten that in the past, the reason why updates took long was because building took over 50% of the development time in a update, fun fact Sepharite city, that one update that took 8 months to complete, yeah it took the devs 5 months to complete the building and only 3 months to script. Now that the nasty building time is removed from every future update (for at least a while) Tbradm no longer needs to wait and he can just start the moment he finishes with a update. Oh but what if the devs take another year to finish route 9, well guess what its just recycled code from here on out (for at least a while) so updates will be releases much much faster. Another fun fact for everyone, the only reason why the beach and part 1 took so long to complete was because we asked after Sepharite for more updates and events, well events and smaller updates took new code and time away from the already long building time, in the end by the time the devs realized they were already half way through the year and Atlanthian wasn't done,. So in the end we got what we wanted, more updates such as weather, and events but it came at a cost which we all regret.
Communication has been much better and will only get better for future updates, the reason why it has sucked until not is because if they leaked as much as we wanted them to, by the time the update releases, we would know 90% of the content in the update, but when updates release faster, they can leak as much as they want and we want.
The issue of oh the game only has one scripter and that they should hire more, all I can say to that is that they don't need another scripter. Future updates won't requires as much new code and fixing old code as much as this update has required. The only reason why part 2 still isn't out is because they had to work from the ground up instead of just using the same old code for features and such, as a example they updated the battle engine, soul burst (megas) is a mix of both Z moves and Megas, and they added a swimming mechanic. So no they don't need more scripters when future update will release faster because there won't be as much new code to script.
The devs won't add features like a voting system until part 2 is completed, they have had so many stuff planned such as fixing hunting but if they were to work on that now instead of part 2, the community would send even more hate despite it being a good update, so once part 2 is released they can work on everything they have wanted to work on for over a year now. This also answers your question about criticism, the devs do take it and do fix things when they are needed, its just that they can't fix everything we want like reworking hunting for f2p players, or item trading until part 2 is done so the community won't jump on them for working on anything else, but because of that it looks like they ignore criticism.
Pvp is getting fixed after part 2, they already announced everything planned in that update so we be eating good.
Ok now this took me an hour to write, so I really hope you read this and I apologized if there are any grammar mistakes but if you have any questions about the topics I have said, or haven't said feel free to ask me as I would gladly answer any questions. This also isn't a hate comment so please don't take it that way.
I read your entire comment and I honestly disagree with every point you've made, but I think you're entitled to your own opinion.
Also, I'm curious: Can you tell me what your source for all this information is?
@@jackzicrosky I can help out with this. I'm not sure exactly if Rainbow reskins will have their odds changed in the future (LuckyHD may have proposed that idea but I have no confirmation). It's been a while since the HW event so I'm not sure on that with that claim ( it being split into 2 parts)
The communication has sucked for the most part, you could say they're improving, but I disagree. LTS has said at least twice that they will improve communication & transperacny with their updates and such but didn't fulfill that. SerXia says tbradm doesn't want to go through the hassle of finding another scripter who most likely would have a different coding style than his.
The battle engine overhaul is a topic that should be put up for discussion as Tbradm mentioned that in a tweet he made on January 18, 2022:
"Loomian Legacy 2021 explained.
We knew that Atlanthian would take time to develop. Soul Burst, a decent chunk of story, a Battle Engine overhaul. But it is necessary for things we want to do with the game going forward. We wanted to keep giving you guys content, so
1/4 we tried juggling event development (Sweet Retreat, Cosmiore) with Atlanthian development. We tried the same with simple, frequent updates (Vari). In both cases, it significantly slowed Atlanthian development. We were able to complete the Battle Engine overhaul and a little
2/4
bit of Atlanthian story. Before we knew it, it was October. We couldn't neglect Halloween event (we've said it before, it's our favorite). So here we are. 2022 and still no Atlanthian City update. I want to assure you that this is just a speed bump.
3/4
I am happy to report that Atlanthian development is in a healthy flow. There will likely not be any more updates to the game until Atlanthian is done. Our goal is to be done in March. We appreciate your patience. Once we're past this, there are great things to come.
4/4 "
I don't think the devs even worked much, or at least brad on this new coding because he said "I am happy to report that Atlanthian development is in a healthy flow. There will likely not be any more updates to the game until Atlanthian is done. Our goal is to be done in March". this doesn't make any sense whatsoever as they've been saying the same thing on the LTS twitter account for over a year.
I can elaborate more in discord dms. my user is nvzxt
Also the this years anniversary event was influenced by the LLTC
Thank you you for your hard time and I kinda agree
This man is way too underrated
Dang has it really been that long?
I'm eight days early, but yeah... it's been pretty much a year since the first video.
Well as soon as part 2 comes out we will see what will change
I feel like a other thing is doodle world, since the game has more replayability then loomian legacy and it a lot more free to play for hunters and pvp players. Also the devs do communicate with there fan a lot and very clear
I also personally that think that Loomian legacy should have something to interact more with your loomians like petting, giving treats, playing, or giving them baths! Because it could give another’s way of building friendships and I personally wish I could interact with my loomians and show them some love! Like how owners feel towards their pets!
Two more days until Part 2!
part 2 droppin tmr
As a competitive PvPer, PvP in itself has gotten stale. Not just grinding for PvPs, but also the actual metagame itself. It's the same Loomians and it has been for the past year, with a few minor additions like when Charonyx was introduced.
When it comes to the general playerbase, I've made a lot of the same points that you have in this video. Brad needs to hire more programmers for the game, and I think hiring trusted coders that have worked on bigger games would be an excellent idea to make game development go faster.
I personally am not mad at how long it takes to develop games, since I know a bit of scripting myself (It's a difficult and tedious process sometimes), what I am mad it as failure to produce reliable release dates. Soul burst was promised in 2021 and has been delayed more than 8 times by LTS - I don't know why Brad set the bar so high for himself.
And for those brick bronze clones...
The reason why Project Pokemon (Doodle World's spiritual predecessor) doesn't receive clones is because it's heavily derived from Gen 1 Pokemon game (Red & Blue), and it doesn't have an unique story like brick bronze.
It's meant to be a fangame which feels like a Gen 1 pokemon game being recreated in Roblox.
Brick Bronze has so many clones cause Brick Bronze has received a somewhat universal praise from roblox gamers and pokemon fans alike. And they're created because the story or the contents weren't 100% finished. This is why the clones has finished contents but they're worked on not by the LTS team, but rather the ones or the teams who created Brick Bronze clones.
I am also aware of some content creators on TH-cam promoting brick bronze clones, it's sad to see these clones managed to exist to this day... Yeah sadly, there are still people who wanting to complete brick bronze's playthrough or abandoned development with their own hands 😢
There is one PP clone (polaro) but they seemed to revamp the areas and add their own stuff
I bet that’s why Crema said why they don’t add new tems to the game
I really hope the game does better in the future.
I hate how LL became just trading simulator. It's no fun it's just "erm, actually, pay money to get the gamma roaming vaporeon jar loomian or you should die" and the devs don't help by making encounters for these "COOL LIMITED TIME" loomians 1/3539572395915832165128935615361395633
Cool vid 👍
Things like what you mentioned are why it's VERY hard to create content around the game. It's just really really stale!
Just getting events over and over where the only content is grinding just does not work (for me).
you're so right. I had to rack my brain trying to come up with ways to make THIS VIDEO engaging.
(also I hope you're ok with me using your footage in my video. I kinda had to record other people's gameplay since I didn't have any of my own)
I can agree with that. I came to a stop with the 2022 christmas update. Got the soft reset encounter with Celesting and I just did not have the patience to keep going with the event or wild encounters. That feeling leaked over with the lunar and valentine event, and I just haven't really touched the game since then except for the rainbow event for the rainbow pyramind.
@@jackzicrosky Oh I'm 100% fine with you using my clips, if you wanna do it for your future vids.
My channel has been on life support for the past few months anyway, but I'm thinking of trying to revive it but the LL devs have made that very hard. Ig I just gotta play something else in the meantime and hope it works.
@@rogamu7531 I'd say just make the content you feel happy making. Wish you luck!
I haven't played this game since 2022. Even though Atlanthian part 2 is here, it's been so long that I've moved on to new games. I also don't want to get back into the game, and then get dissapointed when the next story update after takes another 1 or 2 years, with about 3 supposed "release dates" which never get met.
I once talked about this on Twitter, and got absolutely berrated and insulted by Loomian legacy fans that can't handle how bad the state of the updates in this game have gotten. The LL community is a whole other can of worms which make me avoid this game.
Honestly, you're absolutely right. As a fan of the games, myself, I don't think I'll ever "stop" playing or at least looking forward to new updates, but my god... The community ACTUALLY needs to wake the hell up.
I see posts all the time of people defending LTS like their lives depend on it... For what reason? All these devs have done is: lie, mislead and ignore fans. Not something any game dev should be doing. I've already said I'd stop making these kinds of videos, because the devs clearly have paid ZERO attention to them, but I guess this game is gonna remain my little guilty pleasure...
@@jackzicroskyik I’m kinda late but I think another reason that the game is dying is that they keep repeating halloween and Christmas updates, let’s take 2023 for example. Same halloween map, same stuff, same shop. Same with Jolly village. It really becomes repetitive. Atm it has 400 players, before it had 1K players which is sad to see.
I like the pbb clones, more fun than LL and ofcourse BB can never be toped.
Jack Ngl if you want to get that gamma pyramind or gleam pyramind i might be hunting soon for a gamma duskit if you want to hunt with another content creator im down to hunt ngl its kinda boring hunting by your self
I appreciate the offer but I've already spent way too much time hunting in LL as is. Good luck to you though!
Atlanthian part 2 on Saturday 🎉
I'm gonna be streaming it once it's released. Can't wait!
@@jackzicrosky and I’ll be watching ur stream
Yo jack want my gleam pharo for free? As you like pyramind??
honestly if you're really willing to give it away, I'd love to have it but it's really up to you. I don't want you to feel obligated.
And to this day LL is still managing to kill their game great job LL!!
Athlantian pt2 released
I think a big problem is that there's kinda no way for new fans to get into it. Like half of the existing loomians come from events, lets say i want a silver geklow, how much r those things worth now , even? id just feel discouraged seeing how hard it is to climb up the trading value and pvp experience, and im saying this being an og from the very first day. At this point i just don't wanna play it anymore cuz ik im gonna find a dozen new loomians, ask where they were obtained, and surprise! they came from an event that will NEVER come back the same!
Honestly, I have to agree but personally I don't see this as such a huge problem. Events are fine and skins for Loomians are pretty much the only incentive LTS can implement to convince people to play them without making everyone angry.
I personally think the events themselves are the problem. Look at all the recent updates LL gets, it's JUST event updates. It's cool to get one custom skin for a Loomian, but then if that's literally the only thing that's available then what's the point? Like when there's hundreds of unique skins for something it's like: "well then my Loomian isn't even special anymore..."
LL is just becoming a glorified model showcase...
Atleast they updating in 3 days!
Loomain legacy charm is so good, but really wish they're development cycle was better
honestly i really do believe we'll get the new update october i might just be naive but i feel the next question is Whats going to happen after the update? im certain for a like a month it would spike in players but will there be enough replayability. I remember hearing from jamiy jamie that they might release a new soulburst every week so that would be great. because the next update after atlanthian will almost certainly not be here for a year or 2
I must've missed where Jamie said that, but that honestly sounds like a great idea (one soulburst a week) it keeps people invested in the game and curious about what the next one will be, I fear it might be in vain if Atlanthian city part 2 doesn't come out FIRST tho.
They promised us they will make the game less predatory by adding mints and SA pills. Years later and they still haven't added those features.
I found this video me new here yes we sadly can't trust the devs I can't I want to trust and love the Loomian Legacy devs like I did when the game was Pokemon Brick Bronze on Roblox I know I enjoyed the game a whole lot more when it was Brick Bronze on Roblox back in 2015-2018 to me it's sad Tales Of Tanorio and Eleon Adventures CGG I am most looking forward to playing when they are out might take me away from Loomian Legacy for good I am just very sick of waiting for like 2 years if it's that way for Loomian Legacy Battle Theatre 5, 6, 7 and 8 I feel I won't be able to stick around with Loomian Legacy I feel I'm on my last live with trying to stay with playing Loomian Legacy if faster story updates don't come around if it takes like 2 months waits for story updates I don't like feeling this way I am holding on to extreamly little faith that I got left with this game Loomian Legacy.
Honestly the thing that I really hate is how the brick bronze copies still manage to keep being re-uploaded especially the bigger one’s like the brick bronze forever discord server (as of now) has half a million people this should be catching the attention of like Roblox or Nintendo, I really hope the people re-uploading these games face legal action so they can stop re-uploading these games once and for all, and look I get it for people to keep wanting to play this game but there are some things you just have to let go and these people aren’t understanding that.
They don't just re-upload, they save people's data and add content to the game. It's like Brick Bronze all over again
This is the legit worst time to make this lol. An update about to come out
oh yeah? Just like how they 've been saying an update will come out for a year? Suuuuurrreeeee
@@jackzicrosky yeah I don't believe it either lol trust me. I lost hope after the summer. The game is falling off, but if u were to make this, it would be best to make this before the teases lol
@@epicsweatstuff5139 ...I would've had to go back in time to do that...
I only started working on this video after the teasers were released, and I was going to make a recap regardless of any leaks so around now is the ONLY time I could've made this...
Oh alr
Spoke too soon
I have a rainbow pyramind
damn, I'm jealous...
PBF Is back?
What bone do you have to pick with the bronze clones?
Some of the communities are very toxic. Like project bronze forever. In the discord server, I asked why something was removed from the game and the people simply berated and insulted me.
I don't know much about the communities of other clones, so maybe I'm being a little unfair by saying "I hate them all" I'm sure there's some clones that have a pretty chill community
@@jackzicroskyYeah I agree their communities are pretty toxic don’t get me started on the Bronze Legacy server that is a whole other can of worms…
tbh I didn’t experience the pain cause I joined when alathian part 2 released😭
The rainbow pyramind odds weren’t that bad…
Here’s a summery: It just completely fell off
This game used to be really good until they stopped making updates and less people kept playing the game, this game was only made because of the ban of pbb which I don’t get because of all the other Pokémon based games haven’t even gotten banned yet which are literally more similar to pbb. I feel like pbb only got deleted because of how popular the game was and they were scared they were gonna loose players from their games to a free fun Pokémon Roblox game.
Bro released the vid complaining about atlanthian city part 2 3 weeks before it released
😮 my friend I am looking for a purple pyra can u hook a brother up please I just need a nimble one plz 🙏
I Realy Love Loomian Legacy But it been 3 months since i have played this game cuz once a player complted the story they will till the next story ubdate comes out but if they finsch that they do the same thing like last time
I always feel depressed if Pl Keep Caling It dead Or that loomian legacy wouldnt make to teh future even tho soem of them a right
I think the most importan thing is to add womething that makes grindidng more fun cuz this is a huge problem cuz many games died cuz the grinding gameplay is boring and i wish they could change that
i can trade u a rw pyramind if u want and a gleaming too :D just offer :D
I can give for cheap for u this video was goated
@@blazicky yeah I would really appreciate that. Don't feel obligated though, it's really up to you.
When I started playing a brick bronze clone, I found out that they had actually been pumping out frequent updates with an even smaller team compared to loomian legacy, and it only made me more disappointed in loomian legacy
All only i need just mfing Thunderfruit😭!1!1!1!1!!!!!!!!!11!1!1!
Don't want pvp battle😭😭😭😭
You unlock thunderfruit via mystery
Is ur real name xavier?
No
C'mon guys, just let the game rest in peace so the devs can actually focus on other games.
By the time the story is complete, I'll probably have a wife and kids 🤕
I didn't like the comment you made about the raids. The complaining about updates were valid. But wantin the raids to be different just for the sake of it being different is stupid. It's like telling every platformer to not have an invincibility powerup or change if because Mario did it first. Just making differences just to stand out can ruin something. The raids in pokemon were fun and is what made a lot of people to keep playing the game after the story was done. Infact, I really wish they made raids more similar to pokemon where you can do it outside of events. I hate how people get mad when GOOD features from one game is in another game of the sane genre. It's kind of with neighborvannias where people started calling games in that genre a "Stardew Valley" clone because it had an inventory.
@@helper809 I actually kind of agree and regret the point I made in this video.
At the time it felt kinda lazy, but seeing how it's either that or no updates I'll gladly take the raids.
I have footage from my atlanthian city part 2 stream on my channel where I mentioned the same point as you. The event raids were pretty fun, but personally I had no friends at the time to do them with. Then ACP2 came out and I DID have a friend to do the raids with... Only to find out you have to do them with a bot :|
I hope LL dies out tbh clearly LTS has no care about the playerbase nor the criticism. Even when the game updates, we only get around an hour of new content. No point in caring about a game that the creators dont like making
Sorry, hate to break it to you, it's a measly 20 minutes of gameplay.
Except they do. Their problem is poor work ethic and inability to reach deadlines
Pokemon brick bronze forever 😂😂😂 Me and my brothers played that. They won't play LL
Y'all want a fast game. The thing is that fast game will die in a few years. Not satisfying the developers. And Making no memories while playing it.