it's important to note is not a free ability. You have to trash a card from your hand to cancel the oponent's on play effects, you can't use it every turn because you are going to self starve. It's going to be an extremely tactic leader to use the ability correctly in the right moments
This exactly. It's potential for oppression is high for sure but being in black with out having your own on plays means your not adding many cards to hand. No on play searchers or cards draw. They will eventually run out of steam especially with having to pitch cards to block attacks
it still has [active:main] to draw card I think this is control deck, to block on play card on 8-10 cost for maybe 3 turns to defence kinda like 8 cost moria etc. the other 10 costs character black beard remove opponent leader skill in the rest of the game sounds like ruin enel 🤢🤢
You lost me when you said Nami is a good design and getting aggressive toward the opposite facts. It's not skill issues; it's facts she'S bad design, Blue can't have straight draw effect anymore because of her. The opposite is also true: you can play perfectly and just lose to a nami because you can't interact with how she plays. Poor take. Biased toward your preferences.
I think everyone is over reacting. They already released the red Sanji leader that will obliterate this Blackbeard. Same thing happened in OP08 with people freaking out about Marco and King and the Kaido & Big Mom card.... They don't even see play and both decks are only okay not broken. The ability is flashy but I'm not sure it's going to have as much relevance as people make it out to be. I'll save my reaction for when the support gets released and we actually see what the deck will look like. p.s. I think it's funny a Nami player is talking about how their deck isn't breaking the game and it's the most skillful matchup while sitting behind the leader lol. I don't hate playing into Nami but I just find it funny. Glad you at least addressed it right after talking about Blackbeard. Not bringing up Nami would have been even funnier
Trashing a card every turn is everything but free or static in a game that is designed around card advantage. And saying that nami is the most skillfull leader is a gross overstatement. There are decks like R/G law that require a whole lot more skill in different areas of the game. Nami in comparison to many other Leaders is even a more simple leader since most of the time you only need to worry about your cards and what they do. I am not saying nami does not require skill but it is a very different and in my opinion easier way to play the optcg than most other decks in most metas.
I find it interesting how mysterious op09 remains. We know more about sets coming next year. I think they don't want to say how good this set will be because of the scalpers.
you saying nami is objectively the most skill testing leader in the game is so jokes , you literally just pass turn and counter and hit triggers. its literally free wins against slow decks.
What I dont get is that they print all the counter mechanic against black in... Black. The increase in cost aswell as the new "on play" effect on "acrivate main: if this card was played this turn" I dont know. Give identity back to other colors aswell.
Lol Blue identity is litterally raging tiger and that's it. It has been a sucky color since release, sonI hope that whoever the Blue leader is this set (buggy🤞) It can give some identity back to the color.
The effect of blackbeard is definitely needed for this game. It shuts down the most annoying on play effects in the game. Especially yellow and black. The game has turned into removal piece and this slows down the game to the level it needs to be.
I have been playing BB on the sim a ton and am absolutely loving it. That deck has tons of draw power and is able to be played differently depending on the matchups. With cards like Jesus and Catarina you can play very agro or you can play very slow if the deck you’re against has a lot of on play cards. This is the only deck I have played where I was comfortable with having 0 cards in my hand.
The leader seems powerful but thankfully black does not have card draw so discarding a card can be harmful in the overall scheme of things. I am more concerned with the black support we will be getting for op09 because it usually is thematic and revolves around whatever leader is in the set. If black geta a bunch of useful cards that work around on play abilities it may very well turn into that one color being the only playable color and end up hurting the game.
I think the anxiety around BB is overblown. Ultimately, he is a leader who's presence in the meta means sometimes you'll be denied value from particular card effects (on play effects) some of the time. I don't see how that's different from strong nami presence making your blockers and 2k counters weaker or strong BY luffy presence making your KO effects weaker.
I can’t say I agree. BB only stops on play effects and only on a selection of specific turns that the user must choose wisely (since you just won’t be able to realistically discard every single turn while also defending yourself and developing your board). Additionally, there are cards that are still good with other types of effects and adapting to the meta us to be expected regardless of who is the meta leader. BB is no different in that respect. Nami is frustrating because it tries to eliminate interaction where BB only limits it (it doesn’t say your opponent can’t activate effects at all). Just like any format, people will just have to build their decks respecting Blackbeard and just have a compromise of both types of effects.
probably means his blackbeard crewmates will have either absurd passive effects, activate main or end of turn abilities. or in worst idea senario, has some sort of opponent turn draw effect to maintain leader ability
A more apt comparison would be if Teferi's ability was -1 instead of static. If you can keep bodies on the board and keep pressure on the BB player, they're going to run out of hand or life very quickly. I have a feeling this card isn't nearly as oppressive as people think
I find it funny how you criticize an unique leader effect with Teach but embrace an unique leader effect like Nami's 😂 Also lore wise his effect is perfect
I completely disagree with BB being too strong. It can shut down some TURNS, but not entire decks, as it costs cards to activate his effect. You can't be discarding cards every turn, unless you're not developing your board or countering out. I think it's a high ceiling card that can really delay some crazy turns (8C Moria, 10C Doffy, etc.), but it wont delay forever.
Players that hate Nami don’t normally suck at the game lol. Most hate Nami because there is little interaction and the whole game is one sided. Very boring battle that usually ends in Nami losing anyway.
His crew will be coming with overpowered stats but with negative on play effects ill garantee. so he will not have the negative effects but other decks will have when they want to use that characters and there will be more use of events because they are main and not on play. also there will be more activate main stuff coming
activate main: search blackbeard cards other activate main and maybe the new game element with on play: negative effects (so blackbeard doesnt get negative but other leaders will do if they want to use these chars)
i will think they will have a high cost stage like birdcage so the early game using the stage will not be there to negate the on play something like that
The metagame is all arround "on play" effects and hard removals... If you play anything that doesn't do something in the same turn, it probably will just be a wasted card... The game needs a way to play against it.
I think blackbeard will be fine. His "static" ability in terms of affecting you (the opponent) is an activated ability, so they have to make the choice of discarding a card and losing value whether its a character or counter, or allowing you to make plays. Turning off On Plays is strong but it still leaves behind a fairly statted body usually, in the case of stuff like Big Mom, so i dont think its totally gamebreaking. Obviously no support is revealed so far so we'll have to see how that goes, but even as a nami player i think hes fine as a leader
"you have to rely on your triggers and rng" too frustrating to play, that statement alone makes me never want to play NAMI, I want to be able to win because I did well. NAMI may be balanced and I don't have a problem playing against her, but alternate win conditions shouldn't be abundant they should be few and far between
It's annoying but at the end of the day you hold onto those on plays when the BB discards the card netting them 0 value- Yes if your deck is full of on plays you'll suffer a bit with maybe some less bodies on board and you'll have to bite the bullet maybe to get a big body out but it's REALLY good for the game having this as an active threat. There are so many cards not seeing use because of their ability being Active: Main and people saying it's too ''slow'' but the reason Active: Main is too slow is because of the On Play meta we're currently in, BlackBeard is going to encourage a mix of OnPlay/Active/Vanilla meta as long as it's relevant, or even if blackbeard ends up being horrible as a leader- the fact of the matter is the leader exists and people will need to build around it a little at least. This leader could bring back alot of old op02 cards like Garp/Tashigi which I feel should make the game a little healthier(depending on what support BB gets on release) and i'm all for it.
I don't think will be too popular with regular players because this does sound like you will be playing characters with no effect and a not too big percentage of characters with activate main, on ko and when attacking effects. on play is clearly the most representative effect label (?) in this game, so either if blackbeard is very popular, the meta will shift towards not relying on on play. but then, a "normal" deck would probably be very advantaged against a "new meta" deck, so it will depend on each community where that meta ends up at. personally, I like this possible schism because it can foster variety, and I hope the card designers decide to add more variety in terms of effect activation. personally, I play katakuri and I love it, and even though I wouldn't be able to play my linlins, the thought of having even more reasons to take gedatsu out of my deck for something else (basically the new st20 katakuri blocker) is a dream. as for every leader, there's no telling on whether it will work until we've seen the cards and we've played them. but I can't say my perspective isn't entirely skewed because my community isn't the kind of pool of people who will only play meta leaders and lists, and I don't think blackbeard as a character has too much of an appeal here. I just hope teach doesn't end up as a ban worthy leader like saka honestly
The amount of cope in this video is hilarious. Teach forces your pet deck Nami to actually play the game. Lmao Sorry. I don't think Teach is that problematic, the clickbait got me clickin'. Teach is certainly not more problematic than Nami that restricts card design. On play cards are so powerful in the game, because removal decks (Sakazuki, Moria, Lucci, Law) require on play value. Your characters can't stick, so you need immediate value. There are lots of great cards that can't be played because they have when attacking triggers. So we are in a meta where, if your cards don't have immediate value they are unplayable. Teach is going be like Nami you have to change your strategy, you can't just helmet your way through. Beating Teach will be a skill issue.
I don't understand the discussion... You can't play all the good black cards and you have to trash a hand card EVERY time so that the opponent can't use on paly effects... Currently it's not Blackbeard but Trashbeard... The leader needs extreme support to make it playable.
Unless the support is s+ he's just going to be a b tier deck that's really annoying if you don't have things to deal with it (which all colors do to varying degrees, yellow being hurt the most). It's like when you play a control deck and go into nami, that kinda sucks because your entire deck doesn't get to do what it wants lol
i would not say i hate Nami, but after losing to it 5 times in a row with R/G Odin and only getting 2 attackers through feels rough. might be i dont know the match up, but playing against nami that just waits for your opponent to attack, just to counter with events, is not the most engaging for the opponent. again i am new to the game and those might have been god hands for nami but i was not engaged,
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Blackbeard searching for Kuzan wouldn't make sense he says 😂
From one perspective yes I guess it would make sense haha
very much a shame the op02 secret kuzan isn't up to date right?
@@MoreThatMillGuy-wu9lfI mean the 10c lore wise absolutely makes sense
To be the art depicts him at the end of punk hazard before we knew in the manga, he was a part of the crew
saying BB going to add negative game designs and playing Nami is utterly cringe
Exactly
Nami is an interesting matchup, BB is a yugioh style floodgate.
it's important to note is not a free ability. You have to trash a card from your hand to cancel the oponent's on play effects, you can't use it every turn because you are going to self starve. It's going to be an extremely tactic leader to use the ability correctly in the right moments
This exactly. It's potential for oppression is high for sure but being in black with out having your own on plays means your not adding many cards to hand.
No on play searchers or cards draw. They will eventually run out of steam especially with having to pitch cards to block attacks
it still has [active:main] to draw card
I think this is control deck, to block on play card on 8-10 cost for maybe 3 turns to defence kinda like 8 cost moria etc.
the other 10 costs character black beard remove opponent leader skill in the rest of the game sounds like ruin enel 🤢🤢
You lost me when you said Nami is a good design and getting aggressive toward the opposite facts. It's not skill issues; it's facts she'S bad design,
Blue can't have straight draw effect anymore because of her. The opposite is also true: you can play perfectly and just lose to a nami because you can't interact with how she plays.
Poor take. Biased toward your preferences.
I think everyone is over reacting. They already released the red Sanji leader that will obliterate this Blackbeard. Same thing happened in OP08 with people freaking out about Marco and King and the Kaido & Big Mom card.... They don't even see play and both decks are only okay not broken. The ability is flashy but I'm not sure it's going to have as much relevance as people make it out to be. I'll save my reaction for when the support gets released and we actually see what the deck will look like.
p.s. I think it's funny a Nami player is talking about how their deck isn't breaking the game and it's the most skillful matchup while sitting behind the leader lol. I don't hate playing into Nami but I just find it funny. Glad you at least addressed it right after talking about Blackbeard. Not bringing up Nami would have been even funnier
Remember yamato too lol
@@Rayquaza894 Yea green should be trouble in general for him Bonney doesn't have a ton of on plays
Trashing a card every turn is everything but free or static in a game that is designed around card advantage.
And saying that nami is the most skillfull leader is a gross overstatement. There are decks like R/G law that require a whole lot more skill in different areas of the game. Nami in comparison to many other Leaders is even a more simple leader since most of the time you only need to worry about your cards and what they do. I am not saying nami does not require skill but it is a very different and in my opinion easier way to play the optcg than most other decks in most metas.
I find it interesting how mysterious op09 remains. We know more about sets coming next year. I think they don't want to say how good this set will be because of the scalpers.
you saying nami is objectively the most skill testing leader in the game is so jokes , you literally just pass turn and counter and hit triggers. its literally free wins against slow decks.
and then you immediately say you have to rely on triggers. holy lol
What I dont get is that they print all the counter mechanic against black in... Black.
The increase in cost aswell as the new "on play" effect on "acrivate main: if this card was played this turn"
I dont know. Give identity back to other colors aswell.
Lol Blue identity is litterally raging tiger and that's it. It has been a sucky color since release, sonI hope that whoever the Blue leader is this set (buggy🤞) It can give some identity back to the color.
The effect of blackbeard is definitely needed for this game. It shuts down the most annoying on play effects in the game. Especially yellow and black. The game has turned into removal piece and this slows down the game to the level it needs to be.
I have been playing BB on the sim a ton and am absolutely loving it. That deck has tons of draw power and is able to be played differently depending on the matchups. With cards like Jesus and Catarina you can play very agro or you can play very slow if the deck you’re against has a lot of on play cards. This is the only deck I have played where I was comfortable with having 0 cards in my hand.
The leader seems powerful but thankfully black does not have card draw so discarding a card can be harmful in the overall scheme of things. I am more concerned with the black support we will be getting for op09 because it usually is thematic and revolves around whatever leader is in the set. If black geta a bunch of useful cards that work around on play abilities it may very well turn into that one color being the only playable color and end up hurting the game.
Black wants stuff in trash though...
bro black actively wants stuff in the trash, in fact, this leader effect has no downside lol XD
@@Hanaronxd gecko moria is an on play so this leader cannot use him
I think the anxiety around BB is overblown. Ultimately, he is a leader who's presence in the meta means sometimes you'll be denied value from particular card effects (on play effects) some of the time.
I don't see how that's different from strong nami presence making your blockers and 2k counters weaker or strong BY luffy presence making your KO effects weaker.
I can’t say I agree. BB only stops on play effects and only on a selection of specific turns that the user must choose wisely (since you just won’t be able to realistically discard every single turn while also defending yourself and developing your board). Additionally, there are cards that are still good with other types of effects and adapting to the meta us to be expected regardless of who is the meta leader. BB is no different in that respect. Nami is frustrating because it tries to eliminate interaction where BB only limits it (it doesn’t say your opponent can’t activate effects at all). Just like any format, people will just have to build their decks respecting Blackbeard and just have a compromise of both types of effects.
probably means his blackbeard crewmates will have either absurd passive effects, activate main or end of turn abilities. or in worst idea senario, has some sort of opponent turn draw effect to maintain leader ability
Could be a card that plays a Blackbeard pirate from the trash while attacking to allow BB to go wide while promoting to use his ability often.
A more apt comparison would be if Teferi's ability was -1 instead of static. If you can keep bodies on the board and keep pressure on the BB player, they're going to run out of hand or life very quickly. I have a feeling this card isn't nearly as oppressive as people think
We already have Mansherry, which return a 3-5 black character to your hand, every turn for 1 don. She will be played in BB 100%.
I find it funny how you criticize an unique leader effect with Teach but embrace an unique leader effect like Nami's 😂 Also lore wise his effect is perfect
Cause Nami is different 😂
I completely disagree with BB being too strong.
It can shut down some TURNS, but not entire decks, as it costs cards to activate his effect. You can't be discarding cards every turn, unless you're not developing your board or countering out. I think it's a high ceiling card that can really delay some crazy turns (8C Moria, 10C Doffy, etc.), but it wont delay forever.
Players that hate Nami don’t normally suck at the game lol. Most hate Nami because there is little interaction and the whole game is one sided. Very boring battle that usually ends in Nami losing anyway.
His crew will be coming with overpowered stats but with negative on play effects ill garantee. so he will not have the negative effects but other decks will have when they want to use that characters and there will be more use of events because they are main and not on play. also there will be more activate main stuff coming
I’m ready to see what the rest of the Blackbeard pirates are going to do.
activate main: search blackbeard cards
other activate main
and maybe the new game element with on play: negative effects (so blackbeard doesnt get negative but other leaders will do if they want to use these chars)
i will think they will have a high cost stage like birdcage so the early game using the stage will not be there to negate the on play something like that
The metagame is all arround "on play" effects and hard removals... If you play anything that doesn't do something in the same turn, it probably will just be a wasted card... The game needs a way to play against it.
If you cant beat blackbeard you suck at one piece lol angry nami player hella salty 😂😂😂
I think blackbeard will be fine. His "static" ability in terms of affecting you (the opponent) is an activated ability, so they have to make the choice of discarding a card and losing value whether its a character or counter, or allowing you to make plays. Turning off On Plays is strong but it still leaves behind a fairly statted body usually, in the case of stuff like Big Mom, so i dont think its totally gamebreaking. Obviously no support is revealed so far so we'll have to see how that goes, but even as a nami player i think hes fine as a leader
"you have to rely on your triggers and rng" too frustrating to play, that statement alone makes me never want to play NAMI, I want to be able to win because I did well.
NAMI may be balanced and I don't have a problem playing against her, but alternate win conditions shouldn't be abundant they should be few and far between
With the 12k Blackbeard announced this just prove Blackbeard is gonna change how the game is played
It's annoying but at the end of the day you hold onto those on plays when the BB discards the card netting them 0 value- Yes if your deck is full of on plays you'll suffer a bit with maybe some less bodies on board and you'll have to bite the bullet maybe to get a big body out but it's REALLY good for the game having this as an active threat.
There are so many cards not seeing use because of their ability being Active: Main and people saying it's too ''slow'' but the reason Active: Main is too slow is because of the On Play meta we're currently in, BlackBeard is going to encourage a mix of OnPlay/Active/Vanilla meta as long as it's relevant, or even if blackbeard ends up being horrible as a leader- the fact of the matter is the leader exists and people will need to build around it a little at least.
This leader could bring back alot of old op02 cards like Garp/Tashigi which I feel should make the game a little healthier(depending on what support BB gets on release) and i'm all for it.
I don't think will be too popular with regular players because this does sound like you will be playing characters with no effect and a not too big percentage of characters with activate main, on ko and when attacking effects. on play is clearly the most representative effect label (?) in this game, so either if blackbeard is very popular, the meta will shift towards not relying on on play. but then, a "normal" deck would probably be very advantaged against a "new meta" deck, so it will depend on each community where that meta ends up at.
personally, I like this possible schism because it can foster variety, and I hope the card designers decide to add more variety in terms of effect activation.
personally, I play katakuri and I love it, and even though I wouldn't be able to play my linlins, the thought of having even more reasons to take gedatsu out of my deck for something else (basically the new st20 katakuri blocker) is a dream. as for every leader, there's no telling on whether it will work until we've seen the cards and we've played them.
but I can't say my perspective isn't entirely skewed because my community isn't the kind of pool of people who will only play meta leaders and lists, and I don't think blackbeard as a character has too much of an appeal here.
I just hope teach doesn't end up as a ban worthy leader like saka honestly
Sasaki is gonna see some play at last. Jack could also be a contender
Do you think R/G Oden could counter Blackbeard well?
The amount of cope in this video is hilarious. Teach forces your pet deck Nami to actually play the game. Lmao Sorry.
I don't think Teach is that problematic, the clickbait got me clickin'. Teach is certainly not more problematic than Nami that restricts card design.
On play cards are so powerful in the game, because removal decks (Sakazuki, Moria, Lucci, Law) require on play value. Your characters can't stick, so you need immediate value. There are lots of great cards that can't be played because they have when attacking triggers. So we are in a meta where, if your cards don't have immediate value they are unplayable. Teach is going be like Nami you have to change your strategy, you can't just helmet your way through. Beating Teach will be a skill issue.
On gawd I’m playing Blackbeard
I don't understand the discussion... You can't play all the good black cards and you have to trash a hand card EVERY time so that the opponent can't use on paly effects... Currently it's not Blackbeard but Trashbeard... The leader needs extreme support to make it playable.
Whomp whomp, no more 10 mom and 8 drop gecko meta
Moria is probably getting banned anyway
Well someone doesn’t watch one piece black beards effect kinda fits his powers in the anime
Unless the support is s+ he's just going to be a b tier deck that's really annoying if you don't have things to deal with it (which all colors do to varying degrees, yellow being hurt the most). It's like when you play a control deck and go into nami, that kinda sucks because your entire deck doesn't get to do what it wants lol
The answer to r/p law
i would not say i hate Nami, but after losing to it 5 times in a row with R/G Odin and only getting 2 attackers through feels rough. might be i dont know the match up, but playing against nami that just waits for your opponent to attack, just to counter with events, is not the most engaging for the opponent. again i am new to the game and those might have been god hands for nami but i was not engaged,
7k and 9k attacks are the sweet spots, requires nami to use two cards per attack more often.
it should be discard 2 cards to activate his effect.
Tell me you're upset for nami without telling me you're upset.....Oh wait, you did. Lets just wait to see the support Teach gets and go from there.
now sakazuki looks reasonable lol
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All I can say is fuck the meta. Black beard beats all