I've always maintained that Ali is PEAK karachi comedy! Everything, from his mannerisms and diction, to his narrative style, it's such a brilliant sample of textbook Karachi humour! Love this😍
@@ThePakistanExperience Shahzad bhai sorry to say, islam mein nikah ka lia 3 gawah hona chahiyan and they delcare their nikah in public, aik masjid mein ho sakta ha sirf Dates and water ka sath, asa tu ham phir har date marna sa phela soch lain kah bhai ya lark and mein nikah mein hain or date ka bad nikah khatam
One problem about Shehzad is that while he speaks about being woke, he also disrespects people with beliefs different to his. One simple example is when he said Junaid Jamshed ka koi ehsan nahi tha to enable Tariq Jamil on the internet . I have observed his political biasedness as well. Do take this as a constructive criticism bro besides this I am a regular follower
Loved this episode as well, especially the discussion on middle class morality and the consequences of military rule in Pakistan. It might be small, but it's a start. Had a wonderful time listening to both of you ❤
As a hafiz from a middle-class family, I had a similar experience growing up as Ali. Really enjoyed hearing Ali's journey. Looking forward to watching his comedy.
Brother Ali really Is the best. And I must say I am so proud of our young brother who are brave enough to discuss some of the serious issues. Thank you 🙏
I m from gwalior, currently working in Bareilly near to badayun where tabish sir belongs. I have watched almost all videos of tabish, qws during lockdown. Great admirer of tabish hashmi.
I hope such critical minds as Shehzad Ghias sahib and Dr. Tamkenat Mansoor, inspire our youth who may one day start thinking differently than their elder generation.
Ali has a balanced approach and relatable concepts towards the issues. On the other hand Shehzad Ghias Shaikh is western extremist liberal who doesnt leave any chance to shame islam and religious people. He is clearly a PPP supporter when he is always criticizing PTI but praising PPP efforts. Shahzad needs to understand that just verbal vomit after watching netflix shows/documentaries doesnt make one a research oriented scholar. Shahzad should study and research with some authentic books from muslim scholars to clear his concepts. Stop spreading the bs that " if west is doing than must be right" or Adler's doctrine. He is spreading hatred towards men with sexist comments towards men.
sir on the topic of "Rohaani maamlaat" and "Sadka" I am a software engr with good clients abroad sometimes old clients delay the payment, I am not very religious but hardly skip a jummah, on jummah i pray for the payment sometimes while i come back and sit in my office payment is deposited, its indeed very magical.
@1:20:37 100% agree tragedy makes comedy, thanks for the great podcast i m really enjoying listening to this comedian podcast series its a good change of pace from discussing series topics haha
Ali Abdullah is the quintessential Karachi ka londa. Like when I picture Karachi ka londa in my head or I want to show someone what a Karachi a londa looks like I picture him. There are very few people that capture the look or essence of a city. Like Jay-Z is a dude from NewYork, like Ronaldhino is Brazilian, like Junaid Jamshaid was Islamabad. These folks just capture the essence of a city/country in their personality.
The host is soo firm on his own mindset, I felt he was as too stiff and not receptive to what is coming from the opposite end. Not supporting Khan at all but the damage PPP has done to Sindh and it’s people is unjustifiable ( I am from Sukkur so I know ground realities). Moreover, the strict stance on religion and not regarding Junaid Jamshed and Moulana Tariq Jameel was disrespectful. You can have views but there can be a respectable way of sharing those. Also, reliable resources are needed to prove your points especially on religion not something ABC because you feel is right can be right.
Just an opinion, shehzaad just wanted to question things, rules, islam to sound intellectual, period. On the other side, Ali is enjoying the podcast and fulfilling the purpose of podcast, entertainment. ❤
A poolish 80 year old to me on a train in switzerland said "are you indian?no, pakistani" i know 2 things about your country, your capital is Dhaka and your PM is Benazir bhutto, lol
What's happening in Sindh has nothing to do with resources. The feudal system and PPP have damaged the province more than others have done in their provinces.
@1:03:48 Shehzad Bhai اعلان is also a part of Nikkah. If a woman verbally proposes to a man and he accepts it verbally and immediately then they are in Nikkah and they would have to do اعلان of that Nikkah otherwise it's not complete. I read it somewhere. Will drop references if I find them. EDIT: This is according to Jafari'a school of thought @1:18:00 lots of love and hugs Ali Bhaii
Amazing discussion. Always always felt Shehzad's bias towards ppp and sindh. No doubt the zehni ghulami is far more evident in sindh and so is the wadera system. No two ways about it. No denying the fact that it's throughout Pakistan but we can't shy away from the far more clearer picture of the sindh.
With due respect Shehzad This is the second podcast of yours that I am watching, the first one was with NFP. The recurring theme seems to be even-ing out PPP and PML-Ns history and bashing IK. I am not an IK supporter but as someone who is from urdu speaking background we have to give IK credit where he deserves, he has been able to unite people from multiple ethnicities with a common purpose, I remember there being an extreme political divide based on ethnicity when I was growing up in the 80s, why do you think NRPs support IK? Or the so called intellectual elites support IK? Because they don’t see any hope in others. You have also mentioned in both your podcast how Mr Zardari could have used the peoples sentiments when Mohatarma Benazir Bhutto was martyred, ofcourse he was looking at his own benefit, how someone like you is oblivious to Zardaris sahabs modus operandi is beyond me, from Land mafia to KE, hes only benefited from her passing. She was an inspiration but she lost immense credibility due to her association with Zardari. You want to ask Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Junior or Fatima Bhutto to come on your podcast to give you a reality check? Also taking a dig at animal right activists, people in this country are not empathetic towards animals, accept it. Look at the stats and look around your neighbourhood. Children are not taught compassion towards animals, animals are not considered beings with feelings. Check out ACFs page, which I am sure you have, that’s just tip of the iceberg. You lose credibility when you don’t have a solution and your viewpoint is biased. This country has only gone downhill thanks to bad politics and young people like you have the power to make a difference, use your platform responsibly. As for this gentlemen on your podcast today, his journey seems truly amazing. I believe I represent Pakistan being married to a Punjabi and my sister in law is a Sindhi. There is no bias here.
Fascinating! best, most informative discussions are always conversational. Shehzad you are natural storyteller. Ought to be compulsory listening for curious minds
@@ThePakistanExperience No, thank YOU! I learned heaps. You are one of the most grounded, sorted person I've come across on Pakistan TH-cam. Many thanks & much love
I've myself studied in four madarsas and I've never faced any sexual abuse and even there were cameras installed in 2-3 of them so no one can do any inappropriate thing. There are madarsas which can be a role model such as baitusallam . They are integrated cambride system and doing well . And education is very good in madarsas as well but you shouldn't only study in madarsas or only in schools . We should keep both things together.
I respect both of them for sharing their perspectives in a calm rational manner but that is not the perception i got as Shahzad had a rebuttal for all of his points which were all surface level points taken from PTI posts.
When I visited centaurus mall Islamabad, they charged 300 PKR if some one without family., I asked them the reason, and they told me that many local boys were coming to see the girls, which was causing congestion in the area.
Sir , Humble request from your huge Indian fan . if possible can you please upload your stand-up comedy on this platform or at any other platform. We love you sir
w.r.t. public pressure on politicians humarein yahan ek nara hai, Shayad Lohia ji ka tha "Jab sadkein sooni ho jaati hain toh sansad awara ho jati hai"
Society has no money to spend on poor kids or solution for troubled kids but when madarsa people try to do their bit, its like an old grandma giving advice to kids just because advice is free and takes no efforts. Those who struggle running a home of few people cant have idea how to run any orphonage or madarsa and manage their routine with limited money. A few bad example cant take away all the good deeds they have done so far. People should infact ask question why madarsa have limited resources and why they are spending so much on party and wedding but not on resources for madarsa or its poor kids.
When stand up comedian and blogger talk about religion and its complex issues and try to make haram as halal just like a mufti, I think its like islamic scholars discuss verious genre of stand up. In fact, its still possible to discuss about comedy for religious scholars since its newer form with limited history, comedians should just make fun on things that they know and not make fun of their own limited knowledge.
Really great podcast channel i am inspired i also start a podcast channel but I have only 1 and big problem ( No interest of guests ) Kindly sir koi tip dain how to work Thanks😇
Sir apko zaida tang nai karna chahta ap ny reply kar dea wohi kafi ha but ya jo ap ny bola ha kia ap esko 1 sentence ma bata dain gay like a example bcz i don't understand this properly. Thanks😇
I really think the way Ali is potraying madrassas is something that used to be sooo many years ago.. And if you are genuinely curious about what these institutes have now become and how different they are from his view you should please go visit Jamiat ur Rasheed in Karachi and so many others.Peace out.
Salam Shehzad, enjoyable podcast as usual but I respectfully disagree with your views on the verbal marital agreement between a couple at 1:01 onwards. No doubt in technical terms a Nikah is valid when a couple verbally agree on it but making this contract public is the fundamental condition as that’s what secures the social and religious rights of the next generation. So secret marriages aren’t really marriages from Islamic perspective (in my view). I suggest you refer to Ghamidi’s arguments on this. Having said do share Shaikh Kamaluddin’s views as I’d like to hear/read the premise in which he’s discussed this topic.
Whilst I accept you’ve discussed it in a different context but I’ll give you an example. In the UK it is a well known practice amongst traditionalist Pakistani men whereby they do a verbal secret marriage (called Shariah Marriage) with newly convert women and start living with them, but they don’t publicise or officially register these marriages. The female converts are lead to believe that these marriages are Islamic i.e. two adults have agreed to form a Nikah but the country’s law doesn’t accept unregistered marriages, so it is just a live-in relationship, and one day when these men simply walk out or verbally divorce these women they can’t claim any rights (e.g. maintenance) for themselves or their children. Many men have second wives using this process as polygamy is also illegal in the country. Ghamidi on the other hand argues that Islam wants to protect the rights of the next generation and secondly we must always follow the Urf (عُرف) or the normal/legal practice of the society. So whilst the Nikah does take place when two adults accept each other, the marriage itself has to be announced to wider society and registered formally to ensure that legal rights of all parties are met.
@@DWAGON1818 The reason two witnesses were needed is so the marriage can be considered a publicly declared legal relationship and not a secret one. This was easy to achieve through a couple of credible people in a tribal setting but today the societies have evolved and so has the definition of legal framework or announcing a married relationship. The process of today is that a marriage should be made public and registered in the court of law. This is just as how today we arrange for paperwork and obtain visas to travel to other states which wasn’t the case 14 centuries ago. So this isn’t a social but a legal issue as no rights of either party can be claimed if the marriage itself isn’t recognised in the law. Without official recognition it’s just a boy/girlfriend relationship. Finally, the law of the land must be respected and adhered to. It’s part of the citizenship process in most countries today and Islam also holds a lot of value for contracts and legal obligations. Therefore if the law of the UK doesn’t acknowledge or permit polygamy, you either follow the law or leave the country to practice it.
@@DWAGON1818 Circumventing the law is also illegal and unethical. If polygamy is illegal in the country then practicing it in any form would also be illegal. UK law doesn’t recognise a relationship in terms of establishing legal rights, whether it’s called “Nikah” or any other thing, it’s just a boyfriend/girlfriend/partner relationship. Only “marriage” is a legally accepted relationship that protects the rights of both parties and their offspring. Similarly the two witness bit doesn’t make Nikah valid or legal today unless the condition to make it public as well as registered is fulfilled. Again, this is the only way to protect and ensure the legal rights of everyone. So you and I are not saying the same thing, and I think Ghamidi is right on this issue.
@@DWAGON1818 It seem we’ve quickly established that the Quran is empty of the so called two witness mandate. What is Sunnah then? And where in the Sunnah is it mandated?
@@ThePakistanExperience It wasn't a criticism Shehzad... I love your work.. it was just funny how the roles changed which isn't how your other podcasts flow but its all good.
yaar iss shehzad k sath issue kya hai?? Matlab he thinks of himself as a complete person in terms of knowledge, debate, and at the same time being an Islamist by making self-made senses of Islamic verses. I really respect Ali Abdullah, for being so humble, listening to this stupid guy patiently, and still positively presenting his pov
1:47:38 Sir dusri videos me ap sara waqt men's opression of women ko criticize krte hain, k all men are this and that (which is true btw), to awam ka kasur to hai, not everything can be blamed on the govt. everyone knows how he'd want his sister and daughter to be treated, so they have that common sense, so to assume k inko pta nai dusri aurat k sath kaise behave krna hai 'q k inko jahil rakha gia hai' is not the case. Awam ka waqai bht masla hai.
This propoganda that Hindus r now ruling ask this guy who was shivaji ,Balaji baji rao,Ashoka ,ahoms,rajputana,krishnadevaraya,(richest empire at its time)cholas built temples in Indonesia Bali,Malaysia ,Vietnam who built those Buddha statues in Afghanistan learn some history.expected since he is educated in madrasssssa
Buddha temples were not build by Hindues.. And Hinduism wasn't t a religion but ethonocity. The name "Hindu" was given by Persian to the people living on the sides of Indus River. So technically we all were hindues regardless of our religious believes or race.
This guy had no clue why it is wrong comparison between IK between Benazir because Benazir was the daughter of Bhutto within politicians beside IK he had no political background beside sports
Your podcast is really entertaining and informative .there only few podcast channels who speaks real society issues .I admire your work, your content is amazing.keep uploads these kind of content.👍🏼
Anwar bhai has realized that sell what they are buying and you are young aap log aayen hain dunya bdalnay but kch arsay m apko dunya bdal day g when you will come of age.
I've always maintained that Ali is PEAK karachi comedy! Everything, from his mannerisms and diction, to his narrative style, it's such a brilliant sample of textbook Karachi humour! Love this😍
@@ThePakistanExperience Shahzad bhai sorry to say, islam mein nikah ka lia 3 gawah hona chahiyan and they delcare their nikah in public, aik masjid mein ho sakta ha sirf Dates and water ka sath, asa tu ham phir har date marna sa phela soch lain kah bhai ya lark and mein nikah mein hain or date ka bad nikah khatam
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Worded it perfectly
One problem about Shehzad is that while he speaks about being woke, he also disrespects people with beliefs different to his. One simple example is when he said Junaid Jamshed ka koi ehsan nahi tha to enable Tariq Jamil on the internet . I have observed his political biasedness as well. Do take this as a constructive criticism bro besides this I am a regular follower
These are not Comedians.
These are Philosophers.
May Allah Protect both of them, and bless them.
🙌
Ali Abdullah is one of few for whom I wait yo listen to. His wit is spontaneous and indepth. One of great Artist of our time.
Loved this episode as well, especially the discussion on middle class morality and the consequences of military rule in Pakistan. It might be small, but it's a start. Had a wonderful time listening to both of you ❤
As a hafiz from a middle-class family, I had a similar experience growing up as Ali. Really enjoyed hearing Ali's journey. Looking forward to watching his comedy.
@@ThePakistanExperience I wish I could attend his show live. For now, I can only watch it online until he performs close to where I live.
People must listen to this. These 2 hours will teach you more Islam than most majalis and ijtema . Love you guys
Brother Ali really Is the best. And I must say I am so proud of our young brother who are brave enough to discuss some of the serious issues.
Thank you 🙏
Ali is the best. Discovered him during Covid at qws and have been a fan since. I truly pray for amazing success for Ali
1:00:55 Sunan Ibn Majah :: Vol. 3 :: Book 10 :: Hadith 2018, you said there's no reference for that Hadith.
I m from gwalior, currently working in Bareilly near to badayun where tabish sir belongs. I have watched almost all videos of tabish, qws during lockdown. Great admirer of tabish hashmi.
i am from bareilly
I hope such critical minds as Shehzad Ghias sahib and Dr. Tamkenat Mansoor, inspire our youth who may one day start thinking differently than their elder generation.
Ali has a balanced approach and relatable concepts towards the issues. On the other hand Shehzad Ghias Shaikh is western extremist liberal who doesnt leave any chance to shame islam and religious people. He is clearly a PPP supporter when he is always criticizing PTI but praising PPP efforts. Shahzad needs to understand that just verbal vomit after watching netflix shows/documentaries doesnt make one a research oriented scholar. Shahzad should study and research with some authentic books from muslim scholars to clear his concepts. Stop spreading the bs that " if west is doing than must be right" or Adler's doctrine. He is spreading hatred towards men with sexist comments towards men.
Agreed 100%.
On point
Yes, very true.
exactly 💯
Power of internet, I am indian from Gwalior, MP, India
sir on the topic of "Rohaani maamlaat" and "Sadka" I am a software engr with good clients abroad sometimes old clients delay the payment, I am not very religious but hardly skip a jummah, on jummah i pray for the payment sometimes while i come back and sit in my office payment is deposited, its indeed very magical.
Completely fell in love with your podcast.....God bless 🙏
@1:20:37 100% agree tragedy makes comedy, thanks for the great podcast i m really enjoying listening to this comedian podcast series its a good change of pace from discussing series topics haha
It was so fun listening to this you two are great together !
Just loved the podcast... Love and Respect for both of you!
Ali Abdullah is the quintessential Karachi ka londa. Like when I picture Karachi ka londa in my head or I want to show someone what a Karachi a londa looks like I picture him. There are very few people that capture the look or essence of a city. Like Jay-Z is a dude from NewYork, like Ronaldhino is Brazilian, like Junaid Jamshaid was Islamabad. These folks just capture the essence of a city/country in their personality.
The part about Nikkah is 100% true. I was at a Nikkah during the weekend in a Masjid, the bayan was about that.
The host is soo firm on his own mindset, I felt he was as too stiff and not receptive to what is coming from the opposite end. Not supporting Khan at all but the damage PPP has done to Sindh and it’s people is unjustifiable ( I am from Sukkur so I know ground realities). Moreover, the strict stance on religion and not regarding Junaid Jamshed and Moulana Tariq Jameel was disrespectful. You can have views but there can be a respectable way of sharing those. Also, reliable resources are needed to prove your points especially on religion not something ABC because you feel is right can be right.
Prove your Nikkah philosophy here
Thoroughly enjoyed it👍✨Thank you guys🌟
Just an opinion, shehzaad just wanted to question things, rules, islam to sound intellectual, period.
On the other side, Ali is enjoying the podcast and fulfilling the purpose of podcast, entertainment. ❤
Still here still loving the content
I have seen Ali perform live and he is the most underrated comedian in Pakistan.
A poolish 80 year old to me on a train in switzerland said "are you indian?no, pakistani" i know 2 things about your country, your capital is Dhaka and your PM is Benazir bhutto, lol
Wow Shehzad, really in awe of your understanding of religious concepts
🙌
Ali Abdullah is one of the finest comedian. Many more to come on his way!
What's happening in Sindh has nothing to do with resources. The feudal system and PPP have damaged the province more than others have done in their provinces.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@1:03:48 Shehzad Bhai اعلان is also a part of Nikkah. If a woman verbally proposes to a man and he accepts it verbally and immediately then they are in Nikkah and they would have to do اعلان of that Nikkah otherwise it's not complete. I read it somewhere. Will drop references if I find them.
EDIT: This is according to Jafari'a school of thought
@1:18:00 lots of love and hugs Ali Bhaii
Amazing discussion.
Always always felt Shehzad's bias towards ppp and sindh. No doubt the zehni ghulami is far more evident in sindh and so is the wadera system. No two ways about it.
No denying the fact that it's throughout Pakistan but we can't shy away from the far more clearer picture of the sindh.
Fazloos election slogan last year in interior was `Vote k badly Jannat ki zimmedari`
With due respect Shehzad
This is the second podcast of yours that I am watching, the first one was with NFP. The recurring theme seems to be even-ing out PPP and PML-Ns history and bashing IK. I am not an IK supporter but as someone who is from urdu speaking background we have to give IK credit where he deserves, he has been able to unite people from multiple ethnicities with a common purpose, I remember there being an extreme political divide based on ethnicity when I was growing up in the 80s, why do you think NRPs support IK? Or the so called intellectual elites support IK? Because they don’t see any hope in others.
You have also mentioned in both your podcast how Mr Zardari could have used the peoples sentiments when Mohatarma Benazir Bhutto was martyred, ofcourse he was looking at his own benefit, how someone like you is oblivious to Zardaris sahabs modus operandi is beyond me, from Land mafia to KE, hes only benefited from her passing. She was an inspiration but she lost immense credibility due to her association with Zardari. You want to ask Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Junior or Fatima Bhutto to come on your podcast to give you a reality check?
Also taking a dig at animal right activists, people in this country are not empathetic towards animals, accept it. Look at the stats and look around your neighbourhood. Children are not taught compassion towards animals, animals are not considered beings with feelings. Check out ACFs page, which I am sure you have, that’s just tip of the iceberg.
You lose credibility when you don’t have a solution and your viewpoint is biased. This country has only gone downhill thanks to bad politics and young people like you have the power to make a difference, use your platform responsibly.
As for this gentlemen on your podcast today, his journey seems truly amazing.
I believe I represent Pakistan being married to a Punjabi and my sister in law is a Sindhi. There is no bias here.
From one *at*uck to another *at*uck. Mad love and cheers bro ❤️
Comedians are profound people, really.
Fascinating! best, most informative discussions are always conversational. Shehzad you are natural storyteller. Ought to be compulsory listening for curious minds
@@ThePakistanExperience No, thank YOU! I learned heaps. You are one of the most grounded, sorted person I've come across on Pakistan TH-cam. Many thanks & much love
@@ThePakistanExperience 🤗🤗
I can relate with Ali Abdullah as I've spent 5 years of my life in madrissah.
I've myself studied in four madarsas and I've never faced any sexual abuse and even there were cameras installed in 2-3 of them so no one can do any inappropriate thing. There are madarsas which can be a role model such as baitusallam . They are integrated cambride system and doing well . And education is very good in madarsas as well but you shouldn't only study in madarsas or only in schools . We should keep both things together.
shehzad bhai interview kis ka ho rha h , BTW Im obsessed with your podcast
Very entertaining. Hats off!
Abdullah i like the way you tackled the biased opinionated shahzad ghias on PTI point of view. You put your point across in a good way. 🙌
I respect both of them for sharing their perspectives in a calm rational manner but that is not the perception i got as Shahzad had a rebuttal for all of his points which were all surface level points taken from PTI posts.
When I visited centaurus mall Islamabad, they charged 300 PKR if some one without family., I asked them the reason, and they told me that many local boys were coming to see the girls, which was causing congestion in the area.
wonderful people. you guys are the real hope of Pakistan. i learn and relate with you guys
Very entertaining
Ali Abdullah has great vibes ⭐️
Ps . Good stuff . Enjoyed it thoroughly.
Sir , Humble request from your huge Indian fan . if possible can you please upload your stand-up comedy on this platform or at any other platform. We love you sir
Ok sir
YOUR 1 SUBSCRIBER MEANS ALOT FOR THIS CHANNEL☺️
w.r.t. public pressure on politicians humarein yahan ek nara hai, Shayad Lohia ji ka tha "Jab sadkein sooni ho jaati hain toh sansad awara ho jati hai"
Society has no money to spend on poor kids or solution for troubled kids but when madarsa people try to do their bit, its like an old grandma giving advice to kids just because advice is free and takes no efforts. Those who struggle running a home of few people cant have idea how to run any orphonage or madarsa and manage their routine with limited money. A few bad example cant take away all the good deeds they have done so far. People should infact ask question why madarsa have limited resources and why they are spending so much on party and wedding but not on resources for madarsa or its poor kids.
When stand up comedian and blogger talk about religion and its complex issues and try to make haram as halal just like a mufti, I think its like islamic scholars discuss verious genre of stand up. In fact, its still possible to discuss about comedy for religious scholars since its newer form with limited history, comedians should just make fun on things that they know and not make fun of their own limited knowledge.
Mufti Tariq Masood has told several times about hand practice., just search multiple videos available
Nice show bhaiyo
Part @1:32:28 i agree with everything he said
such a great podcast Ali abdullah is on another level
Sir apke guest gwalior m kha se h baato plese 😂😂😂😂😂
Constant change is the rule of nature.
But in isl..
Please invite Barkat Ali & Uzmi - especially Barkat, he is an outstanding comedian
Really great podcast channel i am inspired i also start a podcast channel but I have only 1 and big problem ( No interest of guests )
Kindly sir koi tip dain how to work
Thanks😇
Sir apko zaida tang nai karna chahta ap ny reply kar dea wohi kafi ha but ya jo ap ny bola ha kia ap esko 1 sentence ma bata dain gay like a example bcz i don't understand this properly.
Thanks😇
Shukria bai jan😇
One more podcast with Ali Abdullah
Phoochta hoon Ali say
We need to have sameer on Podcast sometime.
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH that essay joke, yar kia qoum hai hum.
ali is love 👍
I really think the way Ali is potraying madrassas is something that used to be sooo many years ago.. And if you are genuinely curious about what these institutes have now become and how different they are from his view you should please go visit Jamiat ur Rasheed in Karachi and so many others.Peace out.
And take Ali with you also please.
Very funny historically true alongwith honesty i am age of 62
1:27:45 😂
@1:01:00; munassib kar lain shahzad bhai buht mushkil ho jae gi is mein, lol
58:00
Ali has a balanced approach, Shahzad on the other hand an extremist
In the beginning i thought Ali is mimicking Javed Miandad.
Salam Shehzad, enjoyable podcast as usual but I respectfully disagree with your views on the verbal marital agreement between a couple at 1:01 onwards. No doubt in technical terms a Nikah is valid when a couple verbally agree on it but making this contract public is the fundamental condition as that’s what secures the social and religious rights of the next generation. So secret marriages aren’t really marriages from Islamic perspective (in my view). I suggest you refer to Ghamidi’s arguments on this. Having said do share Shaikh Kamaluddin’s views as I’d like to hear/read the premise in which he’s discussed this topic.
Whilst I accept you’ve discussed it in a different context but I’ll give you an example. In the UK it is a well known practice amongst traditionalist Pakistani men whereby they do a verbal secret marriage (called Shariah Marriage) with newly convert women and start living with them, but they don’t publicise or officially register these marriages. The female converts are lead to believe that these marriages are Islamic i.e. two adults have agreed to form a Nikah but the country’s law doesn’t accept unregistered marriages, so it is just a live-in relationship, and one day when these men simply walk out or verbally divorce these women they can’t claim any rights (e.g. maintenance) for themselves or their children. Many men have second wives using this process as polygamy is also illegal in the country.
Ghamidi on the other hand argues that Islam wants to protect the rights of the next generation and secondly we must always follow the Urf (عُرف) or the normal/legal practice of the society. So whilst the Nikah does take place when two adults accept each other, the marriage itself has to be announced to wider society and registered formally to ensure that legal rights of all parties are met.
@@DWAGON1818 The reason two witnesses were needed is so the marriage can be considered a publicly declared legal relationship and not a secret one. This was easy to achieve through a couple of credible people in a tribal setting but today the societies have evolved and so has the definition of legal framework or announcing a married relationship. The process of today is that a marriage should be made public and registered in the court of law. This is just as how today we arrange for paperwork and obtain visas to travel to other states which wasn’t the case 14 centuries ago.
So this isn’t a social but a legal issue as no rights of either party can be claimed if the marriage itself isn’t recognised in the law. Without official recognition it’s just a boy/girlfriend relationship.
Finally, the law of the land must be respected and adhered to. It’s part of the citizenship process in most countries today and Islam also holds a lot of value for contracts and legal obligations. Therefore if the law of the UK doesn’t acknowledge or permit polygamy, you either follow the law or leave the country to practice it.
@@DWAGON1818 Circumventing the law is also illegal and unethical. If polygamy is illegal in the country then practicing it in any form would also be illegal. UK law doesn’t recognise a relationship in terms of establishing legal rights, whether it’s called “Nikah” or any other thing, it’s just a boyfriend/girlfriend/partner relationship. Only “marriage” is a legally accepted relationship that protects the rights of both parties and their offspring.
Similarly the two witness bit doesn’t make Nikah valid or legal today unless the condition to make it public as well as registered is fulfilled. Again, this is the only way to protect and ensure the legal rights of everyone. So you and I are not saying the same thing, and I think Ghamidi is right on this issue.
@@DWAGON1818 Let’s begin with where are the two witnesses mandated. Please specify. Quran?
@@DWAGON1818 It seem we’ve quickly established that the Quran is empty of the so called two witness mandate. What is Sunnah then? And where in the Sunnah is it mandated?
@01:01:23 Bhaijan Nikkah Aelaynya hota hai, yeh ap apnay GFBF scns Yes krwane k lea asi baatain kr rhay ho 🤣🤣
7:52 😂
16:35 😂
Mazaydaar 👍🏻💖
M v gwalior ka hu 😂😂😂
the most funniest karachiite comedian in Pak. love him
ali was talking about shahid anwar
Somewhere in the middle of this podcast, the interviewer became the interviewee and vice versa
@@ThePakistanExperience It wasn't a criticism Shehzad... I love your work.. it was just funny how the roles changed which isn't how your other podcasts flow but its all good.
@@ThePakistanExperience keep up the good work!
Aleem Dar is former 1st class cricker.
yaar iss shehzad k sath issue kya hai?? Matlab he thinks of himself as a complete person in terms of knowledge, debate, and at the same time being an Islamist by making self-made senses of Islamic verses.
I really respect Ali Abdullah, for being so humble, listening to this stupid guy patiently, and still positively presenting his pov
1:47:38 Sir dusri videos me ap sara waqt men's opression of women ko criticize krte hain, k all men are this and that (which is true btw), to awam ka kasur to hai, not everything can be blamed on the govt. everyone knows how he'd want his sister and daughter to be treated, so they have that common sense, so to assume k inko pta nai dusri aurat k sath kaise behave krna hai 'q k inko jahil rakha gia hai' is not the case. Awam ka waqai bht masla hai.
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This propoganda that Hindus r now ruling ask this guy who was shivaji ,Balaji baji rao,Ashoka ,ahoms,rajputana,krishnadevaraya,(richest empire at its time)cholas built temples in Indonesia Bali,Malaysia ,Vietnam who built those Buddha statues in Afghanistan learn some history.expected since he is educated in madrasssssa
Buddha temples were not build by Hindues..
And Hinduism wasn't t a religion but ethonocity. The name "Hindu" was given by Persian to the people living on the sides of Indus River. So technically we all were hindues regardless of our religious believes or race.
@@s.s.m9936 Buddha statues were built by Ashoka last time I checked he was a hindoo
@@s.s.m9936 and Buddha himself was proud about his kshatriya roots :)
@@alphasigma1869 he was converted into Buddhism. Seems ideal you forget to check this fact
@@alphasigma1869 good of him. Nobody is denying his roots.
Bhai Branch ki spelling change kar lo. It reads as Banch
This guy had no clue why it is wrong comparison between IK between Benazir because Benazir was the daughter of Bhutto within politicians beside IK he had no political background beside sports
Sports and being in the Establishments godhi
@@ThePakistanExperience yep true after politicians, lets see who’s next ???
Muhammad Shami 😂
bahot alaa bhaiyo.
Ye hoga achha stand up comedian but I don't find him sensible by listening his thoughts
meray zameer ne qabeel ko nai bakhsha
main kaisay sulha karon qatl krnay walon ko
Your podcast is really entertaining and informative .there only few podcast channels who speaks real society issues .I admire your work, your content is amazing.keep uploads these kind of content.👍🏼
My father was Atheist.
I am in the 50s, and along with my kids, we all are Athiest... but with high moral/ethical values...
@mali It is free speech.. Please be my guest and join the club debunking organized Cults.
Shehzad bhai aik tou religion ko lai kai aap nai waisai he itni controversy create kar di uppar sai PTI ko bhi ragar diya.
mini javed miandad
Ye to wohi shirt he jo abhi diwali pe pehni
Haan ❤️
I think you have you sounds like pro PPP. I think you have to discuss this kind of issue with jibran nasir or Junaid akram
bhai ad kam daala kar
Anwar bhai has realized that sell what they are buying and you are young aap log aayen hain dunya bdalnay but kch arsay m apko dunya bdal day g when you will come of age.
please don't misquote religion
Thora zyada hogaya at 1:01:01
@@ThePakistanExperience I will further research on this