Crawler Canyon Presents: Enduro SE. Putting the X in the XF (OD gears in XF gearbox)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- This is the final "upgrade" for Baseline. This is his final form.
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I think I've watched almost all your videos in the last week. Love the videos and course your making. You should add some woods or a forest with some rivers water falls that would be cool u have so much property for make a great course. You could hold events
Great timing. Just finished watching an SCX24 video while wrenching on my custom build, and this drops. :)
Amazing what the gears and slow motor did for Baseline on slick rock. SO capable. The caster looks really apparent driving on the flat ground too. I think mine is set one spline less than that but might be worth a revisit
Now I'm torn weather to go arftful/element or artful/vanquish. That underdrive was just about perfect and really looks to have improved the grip of the pin seekers.
I've not done artful/vanquish, but the GFO is artful/element, and it's remarkably good. Doesn't have an ounce of added weight and handles great.
If you're thinking about Artful Dodgers at all, you cannot go wrong. Really well made stuff.
Baseline is coming along nicely. Can't wait to see how he does with the SE. Watching your show while I convert a TRX4 onto a GMade R1 cage. Proving to be near impossible, there are no 4 link front conversions for it.
I share your pain of trying to cram a 3-link axle into a chassis that is clearly made for four-link. Offset pumpkin brings it's own set of challenges, I've learned.
@@CrawlerCanyon yessir, the links are hitting the driveshaft. Gonna need to get creative with link bending. That and trying to find the sweet spot where the suspension will go full travel and not let the driveshaft hit the motor case
@@SivartCustomRCs the number of links I tried in the front end just to get the suspension to cycle… ugh. Skid forward is another layer of frustration atop the 3-link.
I DO have a question! Does my motor flip "kit" fit the StealthX gearbox? The 3-gear & StealthX look pretty similar where the motor plate mounts to the transmission.
I have all the extra parts put into a stealth housing, so I will find out ASAP.
@@CrawlerCanyon very much appreciated! I don't have any X's outside of rigs currently.
Upside/downside. The downside is it doesn't line up. The upside is it's SO CLOSE. The orientation of the four holes that mount to the box need to be clocked slightly, and the center hole needs to be enlarged on the inner plate to clear the round bit on the gearbox case. But it's like... 95% of the way there. You can tweak it and start making FauXFs.
@@CrawlerCanyon bummer...but awesome! I just remembered my buddy has one waiting for a build. I bet he'd let me develop with it.
I really want Element to offer an XF kit.
I mean if you have an element with the X all you’d need was the case, idler gears, and the thing the spur mounts to. Also maybe the motor mount plate idk if the case comes with one probably only cost you about 50 bucks
Yikes ignore the ignorance just went on amain and put everything needed in a cart and it came out to 93 bucks 😮 maybe eBay has some xf trannys for sale for cheaper
@@camrendoucette5592 I have a custom build using an Element skid. So I need case, motor plate, and all the guts. I priced out everything needed and it's about $130. They could charge $85 for a kit and I'd probably buy a couple of them.
Hi CC. I'm getting ready to put my SE together, have the HobbyWing 1200, the 24t pinion you recommended, the extended links for the rear, pin comps and injora blues. To get the overdrive, I can buy the whole XF transmission with the 18% installed for about the same price as the kit you linked to. (I'm in Canada). You think this is a good way to go? Cheers
Buying the XF kit is still pretty much the way to go, as the individual components to upgrade the stock XF cost nearly as much as buying the whole gearbox. I would take the intermediate gear from your SE stock box and put it in the kit box, as the kit has both a slipper eliminator and a plastic intermediate gear-- pretty much the first time you bind it up, that gear goes kablooey. I don't know if the SE still comes stock with the metal intermediate gear, though I would guess that it does. You can't even buy the plastic intermediate gear outside the XF kit.
@@CrawlerCanyon Thanks for getting back CC, that and the advice are greatly appreciated. This is my first 1/10 scale crawler, as I only have an SCX24 and my Tamiya Lunchbox. You and your channel are an immense help! Cheers
did you have any IFS crawlers? could be entertainign watching you worrk on those.
Speaking of new year, i am looking forward to projects. finish MSt CFX with Boomracing BRX90 axles and Tamiya sand scorcher body. a crawler with the Peugeot 504 pickup body, most likely an element IFS chassis.
No IFS crawlers, no. Absolutely not ruling it out, through.
A 15 turn 5 slot is equivelent to a 25 turn 3 slot.
I just wish there was a chart to show me the equivalent 540 to 550--- like, a 21T 3-slot 550 should have around the same wheelspeed as a 27T 3-slot 540. But then you start throwing 5-slots into the mix, and a 15T 5-slot 550 is supposed to be slower than a 27T 3-slot 550, which is around the same range as a 35T 3-slot 540.
I was told there would be no math, and there's so much math. SO MUCH
Hey could anyone enlighten me about Element part #42339 called "Overdrives". Im wondering can i just toss in the actual overdrive gears, part number 42338, without having to use those "overdrive" parts that look like two halves of axles.????
The answer of yes and no depends on a couple of things: if you have the XF that comes in the Enduro SE, the answer is no. If you have the XF kit, it already comes with the 55T gear, so you don't need the 42338. If you have a Stealth X and want to go to the 18% overdrive, you can just replace the 26/54 in your case with the 25/55.
If you want to add overdrive of any kind to the RTR XF, you basically need all the guts out of the X, and the cheapest way to do this is to buy a whole Stealth X kit. Which at that point, might as well just buy an XF kit. They've got you cornered, is what they've done.
@@CrawlerCanyon i dont own the SE yet, and the only version available here in Finland is the rtr kit, so i would get the non-overdrive XF transmission. Associated has this little pdf file showing xf transmission (kit?) with readily installed overdrive, but in same pdf, they list the pair of overdrive gears, and two part axle too,and i got to think, do i rrrrreally need more than these 2 part numbers to achieve the overdrive. Its still like 50 percent cheaper than buying the readily overdriven xf trans. Sorry if i sound confused, but i am😁. And thank you👍🏻
@@osmoahma they'll nickel and dime you, because beyond needing ASC42338 and ASC42339, you also need ASC31350 (M2.5x10) and ASC41077 (M2.5x14) to attach the gears to the carriers, and a pair of 10x15x4 bearings. Luckily, the new outdrive PN (42339) still comes with the bearing spacer.
So if you have bearings and screws (and a pin for the 25T gear,) you can do it with just the 338 and 339. I still think you get a lot more buying the kit.
@@CrawlerCanyon yeah i realised later that i need a few screws / bolts as well.
Do you have a 4 point scale? I’d love to se how the weight is on baseline
He hasn't been scaled recently, but I did do a full CGH calculation when he was fresh out of the box-- IIRC, about 5.25lbs, 55/45 split, perfect 50/50 cross, and CGH was respectable at around 3.75" or so. For an RTR that's quite good.
$30 for two Hoovo 3s that is what I got the other day.