I just took my 64 Corvair on its first spin in 35 years. My grandpa laughed at me from the sky when I accidentally started in 3rd and flooded it, but it sure was fun anyway.
I love the 1960 Corvairs so many 1 year only parts engine , & body ! I had a 1960 model 700 Cascade Green 4 door that I regret selling ! I like how the choke wasn't even connected directly to the carbs. & it had the single bellow thermostat , & controlled the amount of air that came into the top of the engine ! I also remember I hand fabricated the choke tube line that came off the right side of the exhaust manifold ! & nobody could tell , I loved the gasoline heater in it the instant heat ! I was happy that I put another Corvair back on the road , It had sat in a carport for over 20 years ! & the engine had 3 bent push rod tubes from some trying to adjust the valves ! Long story short I got it running like a top , & it ran so quite running down the interstate at 70 mph! The only reason I sold it was because I bought a 67 Monza convertible , & had 2 other Corvair's a 65 Corsa Turbo , & a 64 Greenbrier ! & I didn't have room for the 60 anymore , & a friend of mine in the local club wanted to buy it ! Thanks for saving this 1960 model 700 from the crusher , & the video on how to get it back running ! IMHO the 1960 Corvair was done right from the beginning ! As Ed Cole design it .& I still have the other 3 Corvairs.
Love Corvairs and what you are doing and not wanting to be one of THOSE guys, but your car is 475th from the Leeds plant in KC. Assembly began there much later than Willow Bend. If it was a WB build, at that number, it would have horn slots on the drivers side below the front bumper and would indeed be a RARE bird, holy grail level, worth the effort. Still a solid car worth saving. Keep up all the good work.
I agree but I've heard the horn slot cars were only 300 and lower.. Pete Cohler (sp?) is the 1960 expert - I should ask him.. But what I really like about this car is from what I gathered from the grandson I bought it from - it never left the KC-Topeka area it's whole life. Just farm road driving in the flint hills to check on the cattle.
I had a 1965 Corsa convertible I bought used in 1966. Drove it for 6 years and absolutely loved it. It had really good performnce and handling, 4 carbs, high compression and posi-traction. I live in Minnesota so the "heater" was an issue and the road salt just ate it up.
My father and I had #754 a few years ago. We "restored" it. Back to White over Back with exact match paint and Silver patterned upholstery matching original, again last of the NOS. Other than that unmolested. Loved that car, wish we had kept. Had all options including gas heater!
I had car number 348 (00769W100348). Lots of unique parts even Clark’s didn’t have back in the late 90’s. Lost that car 20 years ago. Still have a box of random parts that fit only 1960. My car had the first edition parking brake with the little release lever that popped out, seemed much stronger than the other Corvairs I had after that.
I first saw a Corvair at a car show in Pennsylvania in 1992. I had never heard of it, and when I saw the front opened, I was all like, "Where'd the engine go?"
Very cool. I myself have a '60 700 four-door that I bought from a relative in Minot, ND It was likely a farm car, but was in a better condition than yours. I still haven't gotten it running since I got it last June, but I'm almost there. The body is in excellent condition and some of the paint is still very shiny. The interior is livable. The engine bay was as bad as yours, with a huge mouse nest under the shroud. I'm STILL cleaning that all out. The underside of the car had a lot of mud and gravel from it's rural life. I keep finding more every time I get under there. '60s are underappreciated as Corvairs go.
My dad bought a '60. He could change the fan belt in no time. He kept them in the engine compartment so the job would go faster. After the belts came out that had the wire running through them, the belt problems all but went away.
Does your 1960 have the horn slots up front? I had a wagon that sat since 1972 and I removed all of the tins, top and bottom. I use a nice drywall saw. and you can clean all the fins better than new. I like your videos, I think I will do one for my van!
I just bought a -60 corvair. Turns out it was amongst the first in Europe (I live in Sweden), with the VIN ending in 6857. Registered in late -59 (December 15 to be exact), and according to Corvair Club Sweden, it's THE oldest surviving corvair in all of Europe. My plan is to restore it to factory condition. The previous owner started the journey, but he got too old and too sick to continue, but I hope I can do it justice.
I wanted a Corvair for decades, and finally got my hands on a '65 Monza project car last year. Liked it so much, that I acquired a decent '66 140 Monza, and a driver quality '65 Monza this year. Addictive they are... Also inherited my Dad's old '59 Thunderbird Convertible, and love the old squarebirds, too! Had lots of issues with my '66 Monza running poorly intermittently. Turns out the cheapo fuel pump had a loose check valve, and eventually it fell out and flipped upside down. Car came with six other fuel pumps in pieces, so these things must be problematic... Cheers from Vancouver Island...
The bug will bite you!! These cars are addictive for sure. I'd rather be learning guitar but can't breeeak this Corvair habit.. They used to make quality fuel pump kits - I bet if someone did they would make pretty good income from it for sure.
@@grillsandaxlegrease3578 I use an electric fuel pump ahead of the engine bay and just run the fuel line straight through a hollowed out fuel pump on the engine. Looks stock, but it runs reliably. Today's gas with 10% ethanol kills the rubber diaphragm in an older style mechanical fuel pump in a month or so.
Cutting the spring is the secret to having them last a long time and not flood the carbs. My first 'Vair was a '61 4dr and the pump and carbs were a headache for a while. I finally got it all working great though. Just wish it had been a manual trans. The PG is nice but the performance is crap with it on a 80hp engine LOL
Yep - my other 60 is a 3-speed. I don't like that but found a 4-speed and have a 64 suspension to install w/ the proper differential body. Ideally a 60 coupe would make the best city car - lighter than a Valiant and some tricks to really get impressive fuel economy for what it is.
My dad bought a 60 , red two door, 2 carb, dang slow 2spd automatic....delivered for $20 bucks and some beer from a coworker. I wish we had the mechanical skills we have now as we could have had a good car.
My Mother and Father had a 1963 Corvair it was the first new car that they had bought and back in those days you didn't lock your cars or even your house and we lived on a steep hill the car was in the driveway and someone let the brake go and it rolled down the street and knocked someone's porch down and the car was totaled.
I had a low vin1960 that went through the may flood in New Orleans. It had a correct 3speed transmission .sadly it was stolen off my property sold for scrap.
It's cool that you answer the posts. Did I see you had a Roger Parent linkage on one of your cars. Are they worth it and are they that complicated to install on a 140?
Wow! What a great video. My understanding is they made them starting in 59' until 69' making the run a calender decade. I guess they called the cars manufactured in 59' - 60' models. ??? This must be one of them, right? Do you have any idea what month they actually started? Also, and this may not be true, but I've heard there are an estimated 50,000 left running out there. Can this be true? If it is, the math suggests your car is that much more special. Also, you seem to be a very knowledgeable Corvair mech.-do you work on them often?
Thank you and Interesting thoughts.. I can calculate about 17,000 driving ciorvairs on the road based on CORSA Club membership estimating 3 cars per person - so that's pretty acdcurate as a mean number.. So I would also estimate 20,000 cars that are not running but in OK shape. If you look at the activity in CA, TX, AX and the rest of the more suitable weather states there are more corvairs seen than 60-65 Falcons, Valiants or the other cars mass produced to compete with them... Yes, I've worked on them all my life but like to keep them solid efficient drivers over show cars or trailer queens. The cost to use one is probably much lower than the other classics..
Hi just a suggestion, if your talking about a part put it in the camera, your were talking about the fuel pump but you had it out of the camera view.and its nice that you know what your talking about but some people have no idea what your talking about.
Tear the car down and then take note of what you really need to do to make it right. early models were overbuilt(which is why I like them) and tough cars. I have been in love with Corvairs since '65. The '60 model though is a beast of its own design. A lot of things got changed in '61. I would never use a combustion heater though. They can be tempestuous and could be dangerous if not properly cared for. I had one in a '67 Beetle and got lucky it worked correctly but the amount of fuel it used was atrocious. It reduced mileage to about 10mpg in a Beetle...ouch!
I agree 100%. My restored 60 (future video) I drove all over. (several Dallas to Tucson, corvair conventions, Nebraska trips, Dallas traffic, etc) and really loved it. And that was on Bias tires by the way.. The gas heater was OK but the better are these diesel ones which one gallon will keep the cab 80F for 24 hours! But the small jet on the gasoline versions is very temperamental.. If I keep this one for any extended time I'll tear into it and see if it has good parts inside,. I do have a new set of heads with the larger intake valves to put on my other 60.. Can't wait to see how that works.
It’s been a while since I have seen 13 inch tires on a car. I had forgotten just how small those are. And how small the brakes behind them are. Part of the reason these cars are so light, and what makes them easily powered by small hp engines.
I've removed dozens of them but that wasn't the purpose of this video or part II (soon to come) But besides it's -11 outside here so that wouldn't be an option anyway. There's only so much you can cram in 1 hour and 20 minutes. And I want to keep it's sale price under $1500. That's for the next guy.
The 1960 Corvair is an amazing specimen. Also amazing is that a horizontally - opposed engine didn't seize up over all these years.
I just took my 64 Corvair on its first spin in 35 years. My grandpa laughed at me from the sky when I accidentally started in 3rd and flooded it, but it sure was fun anyway.
I love the 1960 Corvairs so many 1 year only parts engine , & body ! I had a 1960 model 700 Cascade Green 4 door that I regret selling ! I like how the choke wasn't even connected directly to the carbs. & it had the single bellow thermostat , & controlled the amount of air that came into the top of the engine ! I also remember I hand fabricated the choke tube line that came off the right side of the exhaust manifold ! & nobody could tell , I loved the gasoline heater in it the instant heat ! I was happy that I put another Corvair back on the road , It had sat in a carport for over 20 years ! & the engine had 3 bent push rod tubes from some trying to adjust the valves ! Long story short I got it running like a top , & it ran so quite running down the interstate at 70 mph! The only reason I sold it was because I bought a 67 Monza convertible , & had 2 other Corvair's a 65 Corsa Turbo , & a 64 Greenbrier ! & I didn't have room for the 60 anymore , & a friend of mine in the local club wanted to buy it ! Thanks for saving this 1960 model 700 from the crusher , & the video on how to get it back running ! IMHO the 1960 Corvair was done right from the beginning ! As Ed Cole design it .& I still have the other 3 Corvairs.
Love Corvairs and what you are doing and not wanting to be one of THOSE guys, but your car is 475th from the Leeds plant in KC. Assembly began there much later than Willow Bend. If it was a WB build, at that number, it would have horn slots on the drivers side below the front bumper and would indeed be a RARE bird, holy grail level, worth the effort. Still a solid car worth saving. Keep up all the good work.
I agree but I've heard the horn slot cars were only 300 and lower.. Pete Cohler (sp?) is the 1960 expert - I should ask him.. But what I really like about this car is from what I gathered from the grandson I bought it from - it never left the KC-Topeka area it's whole life. Just farm road driving in the flint hills to check on the cattle.
Willow Bend, or Willow Run?
I had a 1965 Corsa convertible I bought used in 1966. Drove it for 6 years and absolutely loved it. It had really good performnce and handling, 4 carbs, high compression and posi-traction. I live in Minnesota so the "heater" was an issue and the road salt just ate it up.
I’m from Michigan, so I know of what you speak.
Yours didn’t have a gasoline heater, I suppose, by then.
I know they discontinued those at some point.
My father and I had #754 a few years ago. We "restored" it. Back to White over Back with exact match paint and Silver patterned upholstery matching original, again last of the NOS. Other than that unmolested. Loved that car, wish we had kept. Had all options including gas heater!
I had car number 348 (00769W100348). Lots of unique parts even Clark’s didn’t have back in the late 90’s. Lost that car 20 years ago. Still have a box of random parts that fit only 1960. My car had the first edition parking brake with the little release lever that popped out, seemed much stronger than the other Corvairs I had after that.
I first saw a Corvair at a car show in Pennsylvania in 1992. I had never heard of it, and when I saw the front opened, I was all like, "Where'd the engine go?"
I remember the first one I saw - was a late model in Phoenix. It caught my eye because it looked like it was driving backwards with the short hood.
Very cool. I once had a '63 Biscayne 2 door, I paid $50 for it, built in St Louis, #1 off the assembly line.
WOW!!!!
I'm 63 my Uncle had a 60 Corvair that he and a cousin use to take me to school in the early to mid 60's
Finally someone saves a four-door Corvair!!!!👍
For a fun fact- you can push start corvair automatic. Key on push to 45mph drop gear lever in to drive an go.
Nice work!
Very cool. I myself have a '60 700 four-door that I bought from a relative in Minot, ND It was likely a farm car, but was in a better condition than yours. I still haven't gotten it running since I got it last June, but I'm almost there. The body is in excellent condition and some of the paint is still very shiny. The interior is livable. The engine bay was as bad as yours, with a huge mouse nest under the shroud. I'm STILL cleaning that all out. The underside of the car had a lot of mud and gravel from it's rural life. I keep finding more every time I get under there. '60s are underappreciated as Corvairs go.
Yes to Part 2!!
Congratulations on getting the 1960s Corvair running waiting for when you get it out on the road again , a car like you rarely ser them on the road.
I had a 64 Monza with a 4 speed back in 1977. Wonderful car.
My favorite year - and was my 1st Corvair - now in a field in the Ft. Worth area,. I'm thinking of rescuing it!!
My dad bought a '60. He could change the fan belt in no time. He kept them in the engine compartment so the job would go faster. After the belts came out that had the wire running through them, the belt problems all but went away.
do you still have this one?
Corvair museum has it now!!
Said bye to my Corvairs forty years ago but I feel the disease coming back. Didn’t know about the external bowl vents
Does your 1960 have the horn slots up front? I had a wagon that sat since 1972 and I removed all of the tins, top and bottom. I use a nice drywall saw. and you can clean all the fins better than new. I like your videos, I think I will do one for my van!
I just bought a -60 corvair. Turns out it was amongst the first in Europe (I live in Sweden), with the VIN ending in 6857.
Registered in late -59 (December 15 to be exact), and according to Corvair Club Sweden, it's THE oldest surviving corvair in all of Europe.
My plan is to restore it to factory condition. The previous owner started the journey, but he got too old and too sick to continue, but I hope I can do it justice.
I am your big fan, buddy, I would be happy to working on your cars with you. ;)
Thank you Vinnie!! I sure could use some help.
I finally got it finished today so I can get a part 2 video done!!
@@grillsandaxlegrease3578 Awesome!!
I wanted a Corvair for decades, and finally got my hands on a '65 Monza project car last year. Liked it so much, that I acquired a decent '66 140 Monza, and a driver quality '65 Monza this year. Addictive they are... Also inherited my Dad's old '59 Thunderbird Convertible, and love the old squarebirds, too! Had lots of issues with my '66 Monza running poorly intermittently. Turns out the cheapo fuel pump had a loose check valve, and eventually it fell out and flipped upside down. Car came with six other fuel pumps in pieces, so these things must be problematic... Cheers from Vancouver Island...
The bug will bite you!! These cars are addictive for sure. I'd rather be learning guitar but can't breeeak this Corvair habit..
They used to make quality fuel pump kits - I bet if someone did they would make pretty good income from it for sure.
@@grillsandaxlegrease3578 I use an electric fuel pump ahead of the engine bay and just run the fuel line straight through a hollowed out fuel pump on the engine. Looks stock, but it runs reliably. Today's gas with 10% ethanol kills the rubber diaphragm in an older style mechanical fuel pump in a month or so.
Cutting the spring is the secret to having them last a long time and not flood the carbs. My first 'Vair was a '61 4dr and the pump and carbs were a headache for a while. I finally got it all working great though. Just wish it had been a manual trans. The PG is nice but the performance is crap with it on a 80hp engine LOL
Yep - my other 60 is a 3-speed. I don't like that but found a 4-speed and have a 64 suspension to install w/ the proper differential body.
Ideally a 60 coupe would make the best city car - lighter than a Valiant and some tricks to really get impressive fuel economy for what it is.
My dad bought a 60 , red two door, 2 carb, dang slow 2spd automatic....delivered for $20 bucks and some beer from a coworker. I wish we had the mechanical skills we have now as we could have had a good car.
My Mother and Father had a 1963 Corvair it was the first new car that they had bought and back in those days you didn't lock your cars or even your house and we lived on a steep hill the car was in the driveway and someone let the brake go and it rolled down the street and knocked someone's porch down and the car was totaled.
So, if you drill the weep hole in the fuel pump, where does it drain?
I likes dis car!
I had a low vin1960 that went through the may flood in New Orleans. It had a correct 3speed transmission .sadly it was stolen off my property sold for scrap.
had hard time starting my 64 from cold start every time put electric fuel pump on a issue gone
Do you like getting Corvair work?
It's cool that you answer the posts. Did I see you had a Roger Parent linkage on one of your cars. Are they worth it and are they that complicated to install on a 140?
you should have filled the float bowls in the first place
Wow! What a great video. My understanding is they made them starting in 59' until 69' making the run a calender decade. I guess they called the cars manufactured in 59' - 60' models. ??? This must be one of them, right? Do you have any idea what month they actually started? Also, and this may not be true, but I've heard there are an estimated 50,000 left running out there. Can this be true? If it is, the math suggests your car is that much more special. Also, you seem to be a very knowledgeable Corvair mech.-do you work on them often?
Thank you and Interesting thoughts.. I can calculate about 17,000 driving ciorvairs on the road based on CORSA Club membership estimating 3 cars per person - so that's pretty acdcurate as a mean number.. So I would also estimate 20,000 cars that are not running but in OK shape. If you look at the activity in CA, TX, AX and the rest of the more suitable weather states there are more corvairs seen than 60-65 Falcons, Valiants or the other cars mass produced to compete with them...
Yes, I've worked on them all my life but like to keep them solid efficient drivers over show cars or trailer queens. The cost to use one is probably much lower than the other classics..
Hi just a suggestion, if your talking about a part put it in the camera, your were talking about the fuel pump but you had it out of the camera view.and its nice that you know what your talking about but some people have no idea what your talking about.
Tear the car down and then take note of what you really need to do to make it right. early models were overbuilt(which is why I like them) and tough cars. I have been in love with Corvairs since '65. The '60 model though is a beast of its own design. A lot of things got changed in '61. I would never use a combustion heater though. They can be tempestuous and could be dangerous if not properly cared for. I had one in a '67 Beetle and got lucky it worked correctly but the amount of fuel it used was atrocious. It reduced mileage to about 10mpg in a Beetle...ouch!
I agree 100%. My restored 60 (future video) I drove all over. (several Dallas to Tucson, corvair conventions, Nebraska trips, Dallas traffic, etc) and really loved it. And that was on Bias tires by the way.. The gas heater was OK but the better are these diesel ones which one gallon will keep the cab 80F for 24 hours! But the small jet on the gasoline versions is very temperamental.. If I keep this one for any extended time I'll tear into it and see if it has good parts inside,.
I do have a new set of heads with the larger intake valves to put on my other 60.. Can't wait to see how that works.
Wow. This may be the earliest build production Corvair left! Or in the top 5. And it’s in very decent shape for an unrestored example.
I wonder if the transmission was low on transmission fluid. The wheel turn engagement seemed a little abrupt instead of smooth.
It’s been a while since I have seen 13 inch tires on a car. I had forgotten just how small those are. And how small the brakes behind them are. Part of the reason these cars are so light, and what makes them easily powered by small hp engines.
That origInal paint color is a good looking color for that car. The white roof trim sets it off nicely.
* * * * Add A T F to the engine oil on old engines , it helps clean the internals , and free up those lifters . Ask your AMZOIL Experts .
Cuanto vale
It would be 10 times better to just remover the engine and do things right. Not that hard to remove.
I've removed dozens of them but that wasn't the purpose of this video or part II (soon to come) But besides it's -11 outside here so that wouldn't be an option anyway. There's only so much you can cram in 1 hour and 20 minutes. And I want to keep it's sale price under $1500. That's for the next guy.
Add some oil to that fuel squirt bottle
Yes - you got me on that one. I always forget to do that but you're right.
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