I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s I ran with an older guy (in Texas hill country), of whom was in the “game dog” sport very heavily. He had a lot of old blood on his yard: Mayfield, Tudor and others that I can’t recall at the moment. While he recognized and claimed red nose game dogs were very often early starters and very game, I don’t recall him having any but a couple of pied red dogs on his yard. With respect to larger vs smaller game dogs, I was told the smaller dogs were easier to handle in the ring, and most of the red nose dogs or (actually game dogs period) that I saw were smaller often time under 55lbs. “Liked” & “subscribed” thanks!
Hey man, RESPECTS! I like your style, your mannerisms are on point. Thank you for your time and effort you put into these videos. They're very informative, keep striving. Salutes from the Lone Star State .... DALLAS ✌🏽
The most defining characteristic of an OFRN dog is the behaviour around the family . Exremely laid back , obedient and respecful around thd familty but unmatched tenacity , drive and agility when put to work. They can be socialized to get along with all animals but have a deep unbridled raw hatred for cats . OFRNs on chain weight or pet weight look like XL american bullies because of the big bones and one feature that really distinguishes them from other pitbulls is the super strength in their Jaws compared to other pitbulls
There are pure OFRN dogs of various shapes. Many of the best look like they are part greyhound, they're so wiry and thin boned. Others look like part bulldog they're so broad chested and low slung. Both types can come from the same 2 reds 5 generations behind. It just depends on which pups you breed off of and to what purpose. Back when they were bred strictly for the pit, you bred off of the best performers in the litter. Sometimes it was the short pup with the big head who could bite like a hyena. Other times it was the lanky, wiry one who could maneuver like a cat in the pit. Sometimes he looked like a damn red mutt but he was the gamest one of the bunch. Just look at Farrel's Red Buck in the video, who was a supposed foundation dog of the family. He has terrible structure and is built nothing like what 50 years of selective breeding created today. Besides the full body paint job, other characteristics I have found particular to this family is the shape of the head. It is like an alligator. It looks heavy with bone on top so the jaw muscles don't pop out as much as they do on other lines of pits who have narrower snouts. They also have extremely fine coats that look like velvet, very short, on a tight skinned frame. I was a student and fan of the breed since before I got my first one in 1976. I've had many since then. The variety in phenotypes has gone in different directions because only the pros breed for the pit. And different looking dogs are going to have success at different weights. So different looking dogs are going to stud out pups that reinforce that particular phenotype, and a line begins. If you aren't breeding for the pit, then your dogs don't matter in the evolution of the real APBT. Your dogs are a representation of a modern pit dog. Which is what I have now, an excellent representation of an OFRN pitbull. Just because a pups great grandfather was a 5x winner, doesn't mean the pup is going to have any of what made his great grandad great.
its still a CUR regal....it that a bloodline,like colby tudor,williams,lightner,wallace,hemphill,garner.feely...i have a lightner dog OFRN look it up then maybe you get rid of your CUR
@@goodguardiank9workingdog508 thank you, I will send you the pictures later on this evening when I return from work. I appreciate everything that you're doing and the content that you're posting.
Back in the 90’s, I had a female heavily bred off Wilder’s Red Satin. Seems like I can’t find this blood in California anymore. Any suggestions or leads?
Disrespectful. My dog is regal. People aww. Her manner is above par by far. I’ve owned many different types of dogs from Australian shepherds to Shiba Inu.
Good video👍🏼 i remember in the late 90s the Red Nose dogs i seen alway where on the bigger side. But just a solid color with a lil white
I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s I ran with an older guy (in Texas hill country), of whom was in the “game dog” sport very heavily. He had a lot of old blood on his yard: Mayfield, Tudor and others that I can’t recall at the moment. While he recognized and claimed red nose game dogs were very often early starters and very game, I don’t recall him having any but a couple of pied red dogs on his yard. With respect to larger vs smaller game dogs, I was told the smaller dogs were easier to handle in the ring, and most of the red nose dogs or (actually game dogs period) that I saw were smaller often time under 55lbs. “Liked” & “subscribed” thanks!
The true old family and old family red nose is that which has the lineage that supports it... 👍💯👍 love you video... 👏👏👏
Hey man, RESPECTS!
I like your style, your mannerisms are on point. Thank you for your time and effort you put into these videos. They're very informative, keep striving. Salutes from the Lone Star State .... DALLAS ✌🏽
@TejasZavala - Thank you for the complement. Parts 2, 3 & 4 are also available. Take care, GGK9((WD)
The most defining characteristic of an OFRN dog is the behaviour around the family .
Exremely laid back , obedient and respecful around thd familty but unmatched tenacity , drive and agility when put to work.
They can be socialized to get along with all animals but have a deep unbridled raw hatred for cats .
OFRNs on chain weight or pet weight look like XL american bullies because of the big bones and one feature that really distinguishes them from other pitbulls is the super strength in their Jaws compared to other pitbulls
my OFRN loves cats
you did not have an OFRN they DO NOT look anything like XL bullies how dare you. you had some kind of schatter bred CUR
@@donwalsh4445 thats because yours is a mix bred street mutt . Street mutts love cats 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@donwalsh4445 bafoon 🤣🤣🤣
There are pure OFRN dogs of various shapes. Many of the best look like they are part greyhound, they're so wiry and thin boned. Others look like part bulldog they're so broad chested and low slung. Both types can come from the same 2 reds 5 generations behind. It just depends on which pups you breed off of and to what purpose. Back when they were bred strictly for the pit, you bred off of the best performers in the litter. Sometimes it was the short pup with the big head who could bite like a hyena. Other times it was the lanky, wiry one who could maneuver like a cat in the pit. Sometimes he looked like a damn red mutt but he was the gamest one of the bunch. Just look at Farrel's Red Buck in the video, who was a supposed foundation dog of the family. He has terrible structure and is built nothing like what 50 years of selective breeding created today.
Besides the full body paint job, other characteristics I have found particular to this family is the shape of the head. It is like an alligator. It looks heavy with bone on top so the jaw muscles don't pop out as much as they do on other lines of pits who have narrower snouts. They also have extremely fine coats that look like velvet, very short, on a tight skinned frame.
I was a student and fan of the breed since before I got my first one in 1976. I've had many since then. The variety in phenotypes has gone in different directions because only the pros breed for the pit. And different looking dogs are going to have success at different weights. So different looking dogs are going to stud out pups that reinforce that particular phenotype, and a line begins. If you aren't breeding for the pit, then your dogs don't matter in the evolution of the real APBT. Your dogs are a representation of a modern pit dog. Which is what I have now, an excellent representation of an OFRN pitbull. Just because a pups great grandfather was a 5x winner, doesn't mean the pup is going to have any of what made his great grandad great.
Great video Alton
its still a CUR regal....it that a bloodline,like colby tudor,williams,lightner,wallace,hemphill,garner.feely...i have a lightner dog OFRN look it up then maybe you get rid of your CUR
Does anyone here in Canada still have that blood, I am in Toronto, great video, A good female red nose throws almost with anything
@yordanmateo748 - Hi, contact me on Instagram. Thanks, GGK9(WD)
I love my old family red . He’s pedigree is dated back to Ireland
Got all my pedigree info to prove it !
@@WaCkO744 Hi would you be able to share some photo of your OFRN?
Get me a place to send
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@@goodguardiank9workingdog508 I don’t do social media bs .. well I am on social club but that’s it
How can I send you pictures?👍💯👍
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@@goodguardiank9workingdog508 thank you, I will send you the pictures later on this evening when I return from work. I appreciate everything that you're doing and the content that you're posting.
What’s your social media pages?
Instagram: @goodguardiank9workingdog
Back in the 90’s, I had a female heavily bred off Wilder’s Red Satin. Seems like I can’t find this blood in California anymore. Any suggestions or leads?
you have to go back east that is where al the real pitbull are not this schatter bred cal rubbish
HOW DARE YOU CALL THEM ROLLS ROYCE WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE MERCEDES
Disrespectful. My dog is regal. People aww. Her manner is above par by far. I’ve owned many different types of dogs from Australian shepherds to Shiba Inu.
Why do you believe they are lesser?