Drink Deep & Descend, a Lancer Lore Series: Paracasual

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  • @tecguySD
    @tecguySD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    stays together. The lancer squad that breaks spacetime together,

    • @raiu6438
      @raiu6438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      There you did, I see what.

    • @Rattleboneses
      @Rattleboneses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      is powerful, This statement

    • @falken8642
      @falken8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      A master of the paracasual speech pattern, Yoda is.

  • @InchonDM
    @InchonDM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    Little bit of language here might help make it easier to understand, because there's another term that gets paired with paracausal but does not come up in Lancer whatsoever, because Lancer doesn't truck with its nonsense compared to the Bungie game Destiny, which is where they both originate. That word is _acausal._
    _Acausal_ uses the Greek prefix, _a-,_ which is used to indicate complete lack or opposition. Asymmetrical, atheist, asexual. Things that are _not in any way._ _Acausal_ shit is things that break cause and effect, which completely ignore the rule. Lancer has none of those.
    The prefix _para-_ is not "opposition." In the original Ancient Greek it's "beside" or "beyond". Paramedic and paramilitary are examples that are probably going to make this make the most sense. A paramedic isn't a medic, because a medic is a doctor, someone who practices medicine. A paramedic works alongside doctors, and will occasionally do things we understand as medical like first aid treatment, but legally and definitionally, they aren't a doctor. Paramilitary forces are not part of a nation's regular military, but they do military combat things and often fight in conjunction with standard militaries. Things that are _like, but not identical._
    Thus, paracausality is _like_ causality. It produces effects from causes. But it defies other things we expect causality to do, like respect the other laws of physics, or linear perception of time. RA came into being at a particular instant in time for particular reasons. This is undeniable, it is observed, it is a _cause._ RA fucks around and does things, this is an _effect._ But RA can go wherever and whenever in time and space it wants, because its effect doesn't need to follow the rules. There's no reason it couldn't set up the circumstances of its own creation, that would just be another effect. That it involved going back in time is the ??? in the middle that normal causality just puts in "via the linear flow of time and the laws of physics, matter, and energy, this happened" usually.
    FUNCTIONALLY, however, paracausality is, basically, magic. It's also surprisingly easy to tolerate, in my experience, because even in real life we're constantly running into shit in physics that tells us to take our generalizations and assumptions and ram them where Mentat Aun's light cannot reach.

    • @InchonDM
      @InchonDM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Also I was real self-conscious about writing this huge wall of information for a bit. It's basically what I've been put on this planet to do, collect and relay information, but, y'know, it's also not my video, so it's a little weird.
      But if Dragonkid keeps liking the comments, then, well, who am I to say it's a bad idea?

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      in other words, the [Light]'s influence or the *[Darkness'] influence* (from the Destiny verses) are high tops [Paracausal]. At least now more so during and after [T=0].
      the Patterns are entirely acausal, and their uses of ontological sources. of course, the [Two] up top overshadows even this one.
      and the rest are randomized causal-bounded still (while some few are Either helped by the [Sky] or mostly by the *[Deep]* ).

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      'Small minds might call it 'magic'.'.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Asher Shunn it Truly never is much. Especially back in that certain franchise.
      (yet still some people keep mistaking the 2 systems as 'one and the same'. especially in some who sees the Lore differently or aren't too deep still by the vast scope of the [Paracausal] Rule currently these Days).

    • @lead6231
      @lead6231 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So if I read this right, was the thing Eren was doing in attack on Titan like a Para-causal ability going to the past and taking to his dad?

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    "The government is paracasual" is a hilarious statement.

  • @patrickb.3117
    @patrickb.3117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    One other example of paracausality that dragon touched on exists in Fate;
    Cú Chulainn's legendary spear Gáe Bolg has the ability to invert causality to deliver unerringly fatal blows. In essence, instead of 'your heart was pierced because he thrust his lance into it', what happened was 'he thrust his lance into your heart because your heart was pierced by it.' Have fun trying to wrap your head around that logic.

  • @JS-od4wo
    @JS-od4wo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    The simplest example of paracausality is paracausal ammunition. You shoot things with bullets, things die. You shoot things with paracausal bullets, things die. They have the exact same cause and effect, but the paracausal ammo takes a different causal route which circumvents all normal countermeasures. In a similar sense, an omninet node is a paracausal network router and a blinkgate is a paracausal doorway. Of course, not all paracausal stuff is as prosaic as this.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean 'G.O.W'-like near-indestructible beings Permanently die on the spot by a [Paracausally]-influenced 'bullet'?.... [flatly said]
      because that is what most things happened easily by members of Humanity reforged in [Paracausal] [Light]. when one Looks underneath all of that Physical form and 'natural state'. (when speaking about the *[Taken]* , the *Hive* , Ahamkara, even some Axis Minds back in a Vault of Glass-like Space where they were supposed to have full ontological control (by their [old rule]....rules).

  • @starbomber
    @starbomber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    11dragonkid: yeah by the way don't poke the paracausal entity
    Typical Pegasus Pilot: "PROVOKE GUN!"

    • @Attaxalotl
      @Attaxalotl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GUN:GUN

  • @Temporal94
    @Temporal94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    O boi this is basically like weaponizing a Keter isn’t it

    • @camramaster
      @camramaster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude, NHP's are potential Keter events that are used to run cities. 😂

  • @FanOfMostEverything
    @FanOfMostEverything 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    It's a black box, if the box were outside the conventional universe and full of fractals that only replicate if pi is exactly 3.
    In other words, it's how many people over sixty view their Internet routers.

  • @thoughtprism2963
    @thoughtprism2963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    A notable paracausal entity is King Crimson.

    • @Rattleboneses
      @Rattleboneses 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      My tired brain "oh no, did someone name an NHP King Crimson like a Jojos stand? Are we doing that to NHPs now?"

    • @richmcgee434
      @richmcgee434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Rattleboneses Rather be named after good music than some dodgy deity any time.

    • @phonetheory7056
      @phonetheory7056 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its funny how this goes for any time-affecting jojo stand. Or really any jojo stand.

  • @lucasfv1357
    @lucasfv1357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    My favorite writer once spoke of "going sideways in time": with causes that lack effect or have effects corresponding to different causes. Might be a form of paracausal activity.

    • @CaptainPilipinas
      @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      'Time is like a river' - to the Patterns.

  • @iank1419
    @iank1419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Q: What do airborne troopers call their non-dress uniforms?
    A: Paracasual
    😎

  • @VGM00021
    @VGM00021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    One excellent metaphor for paracausality is the voodoo doll, or the sympathetic magic idea. To an outside observer, this phenomena is either a crazy person mutilating a doll or someone suddenly falling ill (or falling into seizures or expressing wounds with no source). There is still cause and effect, but to the normal human perspective the two are so far removed from each other that no rational explanation is available. Seeing the results without knowing the process. It's enough to make a man superstitious.

  • @naseraljaser4601
    @naseraljaser4601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    ...interesting, how it works and can break. How time is thought to be linear and how it never breaks goes to show how comfortable and used to this linear mindset we stuck ourselves in. But a mental exercise in linear *and* non-linear time like this truly shows that its quite...

  • @LeafseasonMagbag
    @LeafseasonMagbag ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Imagine if, on your way from A to B, you took a detour through the Imaginary Numbers, arrived late for tea at Infinity, and reach B younger then when you started

  • @reygarza2727
    @reygarza2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    GUN:GUN

  • @OrrinSalton
    @OrrinSalton ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “- funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a funny thing. See, right now, this weapon technically doesn’t even exist. You’re shooting them with a gun that isn’t real, and yet it is! Don’t worry about it. RA’s like that. Just, here, know that because it exists at some point, we’ve made it. That’s causality, and causality is a -"

  • @a-blivvy-yus
    @a-blivvy-yus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's probably worth noting that paracausal effects are a fairly prominent feature of many models of quantum physics and mechanics. They don't (yet) use that term in an official sense, but it fits with the way certain elements of causality break down within environments where quantum models are applicable.

  • @flamingstone7265
    @flamingstone7265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I learned about lancer only a few weeks ago, and I have to say your videos are some of the most comprehensive and useful videos on the subject out there. They are entertaining and very informative, and have made me as hyped as possible for our first game.
    Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @tecguySD
    @tecguySD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lot of good memes and references in this one.

  • @scottjennings503
    @scottjennings503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's paracausality, I ain't gotta explain sh*t.

  • @Runarisu
    @Runarisu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You ain't the boss of me, I'm gonna poke that paracausal entity!

  • @lornbaker1083
    @lornbaker1083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dont mess with paracasual tech
    Average Balor pilot: 'evil laughter as they recite ancient old testament verses mid battle and the odd blaring scream of "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"'

  • @AhegaoEinstein
    @AhegaoEinstein 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can’t wait for Field Guide to the Aunic Ascendency cause then we get the aunic minds (which are basically space magic wizards). I know it’s in draft rn but here’s hoping.

  • @galer15dx
    @galer15dx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is very diferent from destiny definition of paracasuality, but both are different flabors space magic

  • @erwinthedodo9205
    @erwinthedodo9205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yesss yess YESSS

  • @balrog4103
    @balrog4103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YESSSSSS

  • @skullywully653
    @skullywully653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i have even more questions now that i watched the video

  • @RedDingo777
    @RedDingo777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That which comes after determines that which comes before.

  • @petersherman2187
    @petersherman2187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ah, my bi-weekly highlight. Couldn't have come on at a better time.

  • @me21t20
    @me21t20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooh another batch of lore. Yay

  • @ActAppaIled
    @ActAppaIled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It just works!
    Good stuff as always

  • @GrimLocke161
    @GrimLocke161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There’s so much more to be explored, but I look forward to a possible Eidolon episode most of all, and hopefully some good WarFrame jokes along the way. 😄

  • @Kaz_makes_art
    @Kaz_makes_art 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My brain feels diagonal after this.

  • @NicholasMarshall
    @NicholasMarshall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:11 Is it safe to calmly pet paracausal entities?

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In keeping with the theme of the vid, I hit the "like" button before actually listening to it. :)

  • @slickdoom7447
    @slickdoom7447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice! I was just re-watching some Drink Deep & Descend Videos, good timing

  • @zekenelsons2069
    @zekenelsons2069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah~ my beloved Duskwing got screen time in this one!

  • @rosallora
    @rosallora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But what if poke... with love?

  • @JandarLefey
    @JandarLefey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnum Opus HYPE at 4:08 !

  • @villepelkonen2257
    @villepelkonen2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just started reading into Lancer, purchased the core book, and looking to start a campaign. These lore videos are fantastic! Thanks for all the work you do.

  • @Hozak
    @Hozak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was that The Shrike I saw at the end, there?

  • @TaleSeeker
    @TaleSeeker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like I was just told a lot and yet very little, which I guess was the point, so uh... good job?

  • @Nukesnipe
    @Nukesnipe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paracausality aka massif clearly liked Destiny lol

  • @CaptainPilipinas
    @CaptainPilipinas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    [when speaking about the [New Rule] of the [Two] Ontological Principles of personified gd's or *Evl's* , that Rare term is mostly used and taught back in the main [Flower Game(s)] franchise itself.]

  • @Solohunter6
    @Solohunter6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Paracausal being is The Witness from Destiny 2

  • @kaipoh265
    @kaipoh265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr Bean lol

  • @martinmauras6794
    @martinmauras6794 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude! I finally get what the hell paracausal is

  • @TheDiver3
    @TheDiver3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be a banger of a video if it was just entirely TTS.

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos, but the titles can be very confusing.
    The playlists are particularly hard to choose videos from, for example the one that goes through the mech builds is very difficult to find particular Mechs.
    Guess I'll just have to watch them all.

  • @wyattgrodzins5214
    @wyattgrodzins5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tell us about the rock in great details! I wanna know about the God rock taking it to HA

  • @cmaslan
    @cmaslan 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You guys seen paracousal???
    (Prob from destiny and Lancer)
    Wait till you see the patacousal that I just cooked up!!! 🤭🤭🤭

    • @cmaslan
      @cmaslan 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And now add metaphysical as well as lower level mundane para and patacousalities of the physical that accounts for random bs of the physical world and say metaphysical has more paracousal and paracousal stuff going with it and you just equalised the physical and metaphysical relams, and don't even get me started on the pataphysical and their effects!!!

  • @alexr6008
    @alexr6008 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are domain expansions from jjk paracausal????

    • @11dragonkid11
      @11dragonkid11  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, because like any shounen series, it got an explanation that's like 2000 pages long

    • @alexr6008
      @alexr6008 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the reply.

    • @alexr6008
      @alexr6008 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Ushabti Omnigun is really the only reason I brought it up because they seem similar.

  • @lukelblitz3627
    @lukelblitz3627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it paracasual or paracausal?

  • @richardkeith9498
    @richardkeith9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't understand a word you're saying at 3:30

    • @11dragonkid11
      @11dragonkid11  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably rambled a bit there...