Speed limits that give 110%
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2024
- Evan & Katelyn Heling and Emily Calandrelli discuss a question about super speedy signs.
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Ever since Verstappen became world champion, he changed his number to 1. Now people have to drive very, very slowly.
Most vehicles won't even idle that slowly, so you'd have to use the brakes.
Funny, they might have done that gimmick again, but since he won the championship that year, it didn't make as much sense to do it.
@@daerdevvyl4314That's not true, most normal people have this thing called clutch control
@@daerdevvyl4314The solution: Flintstones style cars!
@@DerMarkus1982 Still too fast, you'd have to crawl.
You could have added another clue and said they changed the "MAX" speed.
Yeah, that's a missed opportunity.
@@lateralcast yeah it is, but thank you for putting this question on TH-cam, I listened to the entier podcast and this was my favourite question by far!
The King’s Day joke landed so flat. Tom instantly knew it was not for these three.
Everyone's face like, ".....you said what now?..." 😅
Im not Dutch but I did laugh 😅
Made me laugh, and I am not Dutch.
All right, I'll ask... there was a joke?
I liked it!😂 thanks Tom!
Now that Max has decided to invoke the old rule of ‘champion gets to use #1,’ the crawl trough town at 1 KPH is absolutely horrifying.
Can confirm that "people who know about this are absolutely screaming it at the speakers, right now".
I'm guessing everyone already drove 10 percent above the limit. Then with the new limit they went 10 percent over that too.
Considering how Dutch motorcyclists drive here in Germany I'd say 10% over the speed limit isn't enough, more like 100%. There's quite an old joke: "What happens when you fail your license test in Englans for the 3rd time? You get a yellow license plate. And the Dutch get a yellow license plate for every three attempts."
36.3 🙂
It's probably more about the visuals of having all the signs say 33.
The Italian town of tavullia has done a similar thing, they lowered the speed limit from 50kph to 46kph to celebrate the now 9 time moto gp world champion Valentino Rossi
The town is Tavullia, but yes, you're right
@amarantatedeschi4786 thanks! Edited to be correct
I got this one almost immediately.
I realised that it was Zandvoort but i thought that i was so that they could get more cars through (mostly from my experiences of being stuck in traffic jams outside of an F1 circuit).
As soon as Tom said that the speed limit was 30 I literally shouted '33, Max Verstappen!'
It was also extra special due to the fact that the Dutch grand prix hadn't been held since 1985.
And probably one of the reasons that it hasn't happened again was that Max won the world championship (in 2021, '22, and '23) and has since raced with the number 1. to do it again traffic would have to come to a standstill!
Well done for making it to the end of my essay, if you have made it this far, congratulations you are as big an F1 nerd as i am.
Wait, are you American or European? I ask because I live near the only purpose-built F1 track in North America, and yeah, the traffic outside it is ABSOLUTELY INSANE. So I wonder if you live near here as well. 😂
thanks tom for correcting the octoberfest haha
can you explain his joke? I didn't get it
@@arnilsso Orange is the national color of the Netherlands. So on national holidays, the country is basically orange.
Oktoberfest is fairly widely celebrated in bars in the United States (Any excuse to drink, I guess). I'm surprised it seems to not be more widely celebrated in Europe, especially in the Netherlands, which is so close to Germany.
@@BodyMusicification this is because we have our own culture and if we want to celebrate october fest we drive for 4 hours and we are in germany haha
@@arnilsso im dutch, i dont like being called german and appreciated someone correcting this so the rest of the people watching learn that its german and not dutch
Emily is such a pro. Quietly sits there thinking and just slides in the correct answers.
I got the kings day joke. But when I was working in a place that hosted many international tourists I kind of went out of me way to learn obscure cultural stuff from as many countries as possible.
I wanted to make up for the perceived ignorance of Americans. It also was a lot of fun surprising people with them. I especially enjoyed the Irish family, when they said they were from Ireland I said, "Well, if you're from Ireland, I have to ask: How's the craic?"
They liked that one a lot. The little kid asked, "Daddy, how did he know about that?"
I just said, "Not all America are ignorant dolts."
I knew the answer immediately!
Increased the MAXimum speed limit ;)
Me too, probably the first time I knew something right away!
Just from reading the title I already heard in my head DU DU DU DU 📣📣📣
*F1 theam song plays*
oh... i was thinking resin time
When they said celebration, I thought it was maybe an 80 going up to 88 for back the future.
Not sure if that's a reference for the movie or the history of Germany.
And that would have been 2015, not 2021
I thought of that too !
I’m Dutch and it took me way too much time to figure out it would be about our 30 kmh limit being increased. I didn’t even know it!
One of the rare times I have heard of the topic on Lateral before
Just fyi, even within Germany Oktoberfest is only really a thing in the south.
Big events, sure, but I've seen Oktoberfest parties in the most northern German city
@@wraldpyk6698 Fair enough but it doesn't have the sort of cultural significance in the north that municipalities there would start changing signs for it xD.
Actually Max was born in Belgium (Hasselt), has a Belgium mother and lived in Belgium growing up near the border, but spent most of his day in Netherlands before getting a Dutch Racing license. He was raised by his father (who is Dutch and a race driver) as Dutch. Fun fact Max raced in F1 before he was able to legally able to drive on the road
The following years it was not done because his driver number changed. At the end of 2021 he became World Champion and was permitted to have the number 1 in the next year (He still has it btw because of 3 successive championships)
I was misled by the thumbnail into thinking it was Carlos Sainz 😂
Win Singapore, lose your ride and not even get featured on Lateral. There is no justice in this world.
Or and Jr and Sr aren't Dutch the last time I checked :P
This might be the fastest I’ve ever gotten the answer for any Lateral questions.
A 'DNF' for me on this one. I was off down the 'vehicle/boat speedometer allowable error' route : )
When 33 emerged as the clue I thought it may have had something to do with vinyl
@@michaelocyoung Ah, you'd need the decimal fracture for the '& a 1/3rd' : )
I didn't know they'd done that, but managed to figure out the answer from the question. I was absolutely shouting at the screen when Tom predicted people would be 😂
"jeez taking them a while to get it eh" - me having no frickin idea what the correct answer was.
As someone who grew up watching University Challenge and Mastermind this was painful. Heck they didn't even get a clue on Screentest.
The maths fails in this one drove me a bit mad, I must admit. 70? 21? Really?
As soon as the number '33' was said. I said out loud "well obviously it was a Formula 33 race!" 😂
"20% extra free!"
"That's actually not a bad offer. You normally don't go lower than that."
"Oh he does."
Thanks for throwback in the thumbnail!
When are Northamptonshire going to do the same for their 40mpg roads?
Being a massive Max Verstappen fan, I got this straight away
Someone has to be I guess...
@@GryphLane I get the joke, but it makes little sense when you see the amount of Orange on any given grandstand
For real fans Formula 1 died in 2021 when they decided integrity was no longer important.
@@listey Okay, then I guess I'll be a fake fan who isn't hung up on that over 2 years later. Let's not bring that endless discussion to this comment section, we get enough arguing under actual F1 content, no need to bring that here
You could say the limit was now "super max"
Congratulations on 100,000 subscribers
I don’t usually get these but in this case i had this one right from the start.
Doing something like that in Germany would probably take a decade of bureaucracy before the event, and then they wouldn't be able to get the exception in the speed limit law passed soon enough and the altered road signs end up being delivered a week late, after the event has ended. Or had ended if it hadn't been cancelled because one pedestrian bridge along the racetrack deviates from the approved blueprint in a few details and can't be opened to the public.
First off, you'd have to have a GP! ;)
Non-spoiler comment: The people of Zandvoort must be driving a lot slower now.
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I really thought it was celebrating their liberation in World War II in '44 by raising the speed limit from 40 to 44.
By the way, a speed limit of 30 km/h is really really slow, even for a small town. That's about 19 miles an hour.
That's pretty common in the Netherlands, it keeps road noise down, makes the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists and encourages people to use those options or public transport.
It's not that slow. There are 20mph limits in urban areas of the UK
30 km/h is the standard speed limit for local residential roads in Toronto, ON in Canada, fourth most populous in North America, a city of about 2.8 million people, for safety of the population not in a car/truck. They're not roads you're meant to be driving on for very long anyway, just until you get to the larger roads (speed limit on unsigned roads is 50 km/h), so the time vs injury rate/level trade-off is worth it. The actual travel time for most trips is not that highly correlated with posted speed limits since most journeys don't have people driving at the speed limit for very long anyway in town due to traffic congestion, proximity of controlled intersections, people making turns, etc... That and a lot of the local roads are narrow enough, especially after you remove the width taken up by the cars parallel parked on them, that you really don't want to be going very fast anyway. And studies have shown that in medium congestion conditions when you can actually drive at an approximation of the speed limit, the actual average road throughput (cars/unit time) often increases with more moderate speed limits because the traffic flow can be smoother, you get fewer accidents that disrupt the flow, and safe following distance can be reduced. Now, this is dependent on the culture and driving style of the population as well as roadway design, geometry, and a number of other factors, but it applies there.
20mph only sounds slow if you don't live anywhere with actual density. I do 20mph instinctively in my neighborhood, which is all one-ways, alleys, and streets that are just wide enough to pass each other when folks are parked on both sides. Anything higher would be unsafe - especially since we have a lot of pedestrians and bicyclists.
At first I thought it would be that you weren't fined for going up to 10% above the speed limit (which is also kind of the case until 50km/h), but I was screaming at my screen as soon as I saw the first half of the question.
Also, yes, I'm Dutch :)
i already know that fact, its so fun to see poeple guess
as a dutch, i did not know that, thats quite cool that they did that
As a Dutch what? Oven? Angle? Person? ("A Dutch" is geen goed Engels.)
Octoberfest is not specific for Germany. At least in some parts of the Netherlands they imitate the German octoberfest just to have another party where they drink a lot of beer
My brain went to Back to the future first before getting the correct answer
As an F1 fan got as soon as read question
I knew once I heard celebration and driving.
Max, max, max, super max!!!
It took me longer than it should have as a lifelong F1 fan, but I did get it in time
Immediately thought of Formula 1 and that news hahaha
I'm guessing it was around the F1 Dutch Grand Prix, going from 30 to 33, due to it being Max Verstappen's race number
Yep
Not Katelyn making a guess and then a few minutes later Evan passing it off as his own 😭
Just when you thought 2024 f1 pre-season couldn't get any better, we get a question on Lateral :)
yay 27th of April joke!!! also, I know the answer at 2:36! woohoo!!!
Even when your head thinks in kilometers, there's a disjoint between European speeds and Canadian speeds. We use kilometers, but our infrastructure is built the same way American infrastructure is, so even in suburbs and small towns the base speed limit is 50. It only goes lower for special circumstances (school zones etc are 30). A general speed limit of 30 seems so slow.
It's not the general speed limit, that's 50km/h. This 30km/h limit is for specific zones like around schools and small streets in residential neighborhoods.
I am dutch and I didn't know this one.
The speed limit is already kind of 110% of what is posted on the Netherlands...
They literally teach that in driving school as it is more important to just go with the flow than to be strict as long as it is safe. Also, the police cannot write a ticket if you're doing only like 5% over the speed limit (measured with equipment which also has a more than enough margin for calibration errors). On top of that there's the difference between your speed indicator and actual speed, which is between 5% and 10% as car manufacturers generally do to be safe without having to do a good calibration
having no clue about racing of any kind, i heard "33" and "special event" and my first thought was "record store day!" (you know, because LP records spin at 33 1/3 rpm)
after i realized i was i was utterly off base, a quick googling showed me that record store day in the US is april 20th
It honestly took me longer than it should have to realise the answer. (I'm Dutch.)
I was thinking back to the future but then when they said the speed I was like nah
When they mentioned it's the number that matters, my first thought was 80 -> 88, but I don't think they'd use mph in the Netherlands, and the speed limit in the area definitely wouldn't have been this high.
I just guessed that since I live in a city where the default speed limit is 50km/h, maybe if Sammy Hagar were to headline a rock festival here, it would be amusing to increase the speed limits by 10%, thus ensuring that he did in fact have to drive 55.
0:28 Not looking at comments, not watching video yet: is it about the Dutch GP, they changed speed limits in Zandvoort from 30 to 33 because of his race number, then changed it back after the event.
That's the only time I've been truly uncomfortable knowing the answer while the people on the show actually don't
His number is now 1*, given he's World Champion, so traffic in Zandvoort the next year must have been going at a snails' pace.
Silverstone could do this with 40 (44) and 60 (63) for Lewis and George
*yes I know this is an honorific and not his permanent, assigned driver entry number
Spain could do it with Carlos Sainz (50-55) as well
We aren't a fan of orange men in some parts of Ireland but we welcomrme the Dutch. My guess is cycling.
My guess was that they were expecting a lot of british or american drivers for some event, they changed the limits to miles per hour, and with rounding to a whole number it ended up 10% more.
Initial thoughts: it could be a simple real-world trial and data gathering experiment on how people would react and its impact. But that's not much Lateral. [ Where I live (not NL), it's ok to go 110% the limit; so would people go 121% ? Would they even notice the change? What about the clash of people following the old rule and the new ones? Would people trust the new signs or dismiss them? Would it help or hinder traffic flow? Etc. ]
There could have been an event/competition/exhibition taking place over the weekend, and bumping up the speed limit for that period was simpler/easier than paperwork/certification/law-edition (e.g. cycling event). Is that Lateral enough?
But it's stated that the "signs" were changed. It's not specifically about the speed limit itself. So, is it to test if automated tools (Google Maps, GPS aids, "driverless"-car AI, traffic flow simulators, etc.) would adapt fast enough, correctly enough, or how they would react?
0:28 It could just have been vandalism/protest; maybe from a work union or related law. Change the signs just before the weekend, so they would have to stay up until the next workday Monday. An in-your-face proof of concept about the current problematic bureaucracy of things.
As a Dutch F1 fan I knew this one instantly
I mean... as soon as they said a driving event, in Europe, I figured F1. But I guess I'd think of that sooner than most Americans, because I live right by North America's only F1 track.
OMG... total guess, but I think I might have it... an increase from 30mph to 33mph would line up nicely with a certain Dutch F1 driver's racing number... 😉
Do they change it to 1 now?
30 kph is painfully slow for a town speed limit 😩
I was 90%when he said small Dutch city in 2021...then absolutely sure within a minute
I got it seconds before Emily said it.
I was hoping it was a conversion error (as in, they decided to switch to mph, accidentally made it too high, realized their mistake and brought it down to the correct speed)
His number was 33. Now he uses his right to use 1
Which has resulted in the traffic going REALLY slow
They wont be changing it to 1 now.
I'm not a racing fan, but changing it for a weekend must be linked to Max Verstappen somehow.
You know how everybody knows you can get away with driving 10% over the limit? Initially I thought they decided to up the limit to reflect that, but then everybody started going 10% over the new limit and they quickly fixed their mistake.
Oktoberfest???? wrong country :D
As an F1 fan, I’m really disappointed in myself that I didn’t get this one 🤦♂️
Imagine if this happened nowadays when his number changed to 1
I got the Orange joke.
i got it after the 30 (+10%) lol.
haven't watched the rest but im assuming it was after verstappens first championship.
edit: nvm not the championship win
Is anyone else wondering why this episode got 6 highlights (weeks apart) while their are typically only 3 ?
All f1 fans got this within 15 secs
0:30 it sounds like they were doing a pop culture reference somehow. idk what though
3:58 33 km/h... it feels familiar, but why? ... is there a road 33 somewhere?
5:10 I'm counting my pop-culture hypothesis as, like, 1/4 a point
My guess that was wrong was they had an event that was ending and they wanted all those extra people to leave the area just a bit faster. :)
Everybody did actually leave pretty quickly afterwards compared to other GPs, as most people arrived and left by bicycle and public transport. It's the Netherlands, after all.
Fun fact. Max Verstappen is just as Belgian as he is Dutch.
Haha yes!
My guess would be F1 related support of Max Verstappen
Max isn't #33 anymore, he races in car #1. I doubt they adjust the speed limits anymore 🤣
Those who follow F1 got this one VERY quickly.
I'm not a F1 fan, and when i Heard 33 i thought of Fernando Alonso and the 33rd win that never comes
70 km/h is about 45mph
Those Dutch must have thought they were on the Autobahn.
Well they won't be changing the speed limit to his racing number again until at least 2027, as his current number is a little lower than #33.
Damm I would have this in 2min.....But I am an F1 fan
About 3 minutes in and it's Zandvort and 30mph roads became 33mph, I'm guessing.
Kilometers per hour. Which translates to something like 20 mph.
After 2021 Verstappen started using number 1, I hope they don't change the speed limits to his current number while he is still world champion.
Netherlands! Oh....Oktoberfest! (C'mon people....they are not Germans and the are not Danish...grab a dang map) Hup Hup Hup!
the sign where instantly stolen if i remember corectly
"That's wholesome" at the end. So, I'm guess there weren't any major accidents/fatalities during that weekend of increased speed limit 😅
What the heck?! 30k speed limit. They are going to be giving out speeding tickets to bicyclist.
30 km/h limit inside a city is pretty normal.
tbf, 30 km/h is only on small neighborhood streets and big pedestrian areas. On bigger roads it will be 50 or 70 inside a town/city and higher outside of them.
I'm surprised they guessed 20! Guess they aren't very used to metric. But 30 seems slow to me; usually small towns around here are 50.
@@Wecoc1 Yeah, I don't buy that at all. According to a quick Google search it's normally 50 (same as here)..
@@FacePomagranate Yes, at that speed they would be ticketing the people with those new Mobility scooters (wheelchairs) that can go 22kph
I live in the Netherlands and confirm that people here are super into their F1, and the weekend that it happens is pretty rowdy.