This does not refute trinitarian belief. I would implore you to check out the links I've posted on previous comments as well as read the comments. I went to a oneness church for a year and have found that the teaching of the nature of God as well as baptismal regeneration are not supported by the whole of scripture. The Bible says who the son sets free is free indeed. Jesus is not a plan of thought in God's mind but existed with God in the beginning as John's prologue eloquently states.
I used to think Jesus only came as a representative of God, and i came out of a catholic church that believed in the Trinity, I never had faith in that concept. It was only until I came to the doctrine of oneness that finally makes sense. Thank you God for giving me the true revelation of the holy scriptures
He Jesus has shown me so much ch in the last month of his Goodness his Mercy and his Grace that if it was all for sale I would be rich 😊. He is s the ONE true Lord and Savior ❣️I will always walk by my Faith and in the footsteps he has laid out for Me .I Speak Jesus !
All I am going to say is that I am going to cite this: "God in His existence as the Three-in-One is beyond the limits of human comprehension." by Charles C. Ryrie
John 17:1-4: “After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.” I believe any average person would read this and identify it as a conversation between two persons. The oneness perspective is difficult to comprehend.
Myles Shelby, when you say "The oneness perspective is difficult to comprehend.", I would suggest, the oneness perspective makes it easy to identify FALSE DOCTRINE.
Finite minds CANNOT comprehend infinity and timelessness. But it’s by faith that we live according to his word. HIS word that states I and my father are ONE. His word that states unto us a son is given, … wonderful counselor, EVERLASTING FATHER, MIGHTY GOD, prince of peace. His word that states in the beginning was the word and the word was with GOD and the word WAS GOD Just because I can’t fully wrap my head around the idea that GOD and Jesus are the same personal being, that doesn’t mean it isn’t so.
@@gabeakuo5081I agree. God the Father and God the Son are one. However, they are separate is personhood and functionality. Again, Jesus is clearly talking to another person in this text. Are we saying he’s speaking to himself (or his Spirit)?
@@pentecostTV In John 10:30 “I and my Father are one.” The mistake you make is to believe that "one" only means that it is the same when it means being in agreement. We too can be one with the Father and the Son and that doesn't mean that we are God. But we can be in the same communion or the same feeling or unity. Read what John 17: 20-23 says so that you understand: 20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may BE ONE, FATHER, just as YOU are in ME and I am in YOU. May THEY also be in US so that the world may believe that you have SENT ME. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may BE ONE AS WE ARE ONE 23 I in THEM and YOU in ME so that they may be brought to complete UNITY. Then the world will know that YOU SENT ME and have loved THEM even as YOU have loved ME. John 14: 9 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Many Oneness presents this verse to try to show that the Father and the Son are the same but this doesn't mean or imply that they are. Let it be the same word that interprets, clarifies and brings light to what is not clear. To understand better, let's see an example where Jesus uses the same type of expression: In Luke 10:16 it says: He who hears you hears me; and he who rejects you rejects me; and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me. This verse speaks or refers between us, Jesus and the one who sent Jesus. If we applied the idea that you have been taught in this other passage, we would have to deduce that you and all the other Christians are the same Jesus. This would be completely absurd. Here are other examples: Jesus tells us in: John 6:46 46 Not that anyone has seen the FATHER, except He who is from God; He has seen the FATHER. John 1:18 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the FATHER, He has declared HIM. Matthew 10:40 40 He who welcomes you welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. He who sees Jesus sees the Father, but that does not mean that Jesus is the Father. For we can see the Father through Jesus. Whoever listens to us listens to Jesus, but that does not mean that we are Jesus. Well, we can hear the words or teachings of Jesus through a brother or preacher etc. Whoever rejects us also rejects Jesus. Knowing Jesus is knowing the Father but this does not mean that Jesus is the Father. Whoever receives us receives Jesus that does not mean that we are Jesus. Whoever receives Jesus receives the one who sent him that does not mean that Jesus is the Father. In Matthew 25: 34-46 it says 34 Then the King will say to those on his right: Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in; 36 I was naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; in jail, and you came to me. 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying: Lord, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY, AND SUSTAIN YOU, OR THIRSTY, AND TELL YOU TO DRINK? 38 And when did we see you a stranger, and took you in, or naked, and covered you? 39 Or when did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you? 40 And the King answering, will say to them: VERY VERY I TELL YOU THAT HOW MUCH YOU DID TO ONE OF THESE MY SMALLER BROTHERS, YOU DID IT TO ME. 41 Then he will also say to those on the left: GET AWAY FROM ME, YOU CURSED ONES, TO THE ETERNAL FIRE PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. 42 Because I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not take me in; I was naked, and you did not cover me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they too will answer him saying: Lord, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY, THIRSTY, STRANGER, NAKED, SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND DO NOT SERVE YOU? 45 Then he will answer them saying: TRUE SAY I TELL YOU THAT AS SOON AS YOU DIDN'T DO IT TO ONE OF THESE SMALLEST, YOU DIDN'T DO IT TO ME. 46 And these will go to eternal punishment, and the righteous to eternal life. Jesus tells us in John 8: 17-19 17 And in your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am the one who testifies about myself, and the FATHER who sent me testifies about me. 19 They said to him, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered: You neither know me nor my Father; If you knew me, you would also know my Father. None of these verses you have given me say that Jesus is Father. Therefore, you should not quote the Philip passage out of context to misinterpret it. In Romans 12:5 it says: 5 so WE, being MANY, are ONE body in Christ, and individually members of one another. Jesus is not the Father God Bless!
@@msolav63 no mistake sir JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR CASE ON JUDGEMENT DAY OK EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS IT CLEAR AS I JUST DID 1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” GOD HAS NOT GIVEN YOU UNDERSTANDING YET thanks
@@pentecostTV In 1 John 5:20 it says that Jesus is the Son of God not the FATHER. As it says in 1 John 5:20 20 And we know that THE Son OF GOD HAS COME and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life. Jesus is true God but Jesus said that the FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD! John 17:1-3 17 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “FATHER, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify YOU , 2 as YOU have given HIM authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as YOU have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ WHOM YOU HAVE SENT. Jesus is God but he is not the FATHER, He is the Son. God Bless!
Pentecostals and UPCI aren't the only protestants who believe in the "oneness doctrine." Upci acts like they have a patent on oneness theology. It's annoying.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
I became a Christian in 2014 in a trinitarian church from assembly of Christian churches . In 2015 I found another assembly church named IPUL and when my wife asked me you know they’re unicitarians and explained what it meant , I said to her yes that’s what I believe. So all these years I was in a trinitarian church , asking oneness Pentecostalism questions with no answers and in 2016 I came to know that I was one with oneness Pentecostalism belief …. There’s more churches believing this same principal UPC in USA , IPUC in Colombia and IPUL in USA for Latinos . Great video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I am from Pentecostal Church background in Indonesia. We believe in Trinity God. But they are One. GOD THE FATHER, LORD JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT. THEY ALL ONE HALLELUJAH❤❤❤
Beloved Brothers & Sisters, If I have learned anything in my 60 years on Gods earth is to seriously question anyone who tells you of their vast education & achievements prior to trying to sell you something. Matthew 11:25 (NASB)_ At that time Jesus said, 'I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent, and have revealed them to infants._ 1 John 2:27 (NASB) _As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him._
The Bible says blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. I cried out that I wanted to see Him and He showed me the throne. Get a godly jealousy, and seek Him sister. Seek Him.
Rev 4:1 - After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Rev 4:2 - And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne. Rev 4:3 - And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and [there was] a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. Rev 4:4 - And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. Rev 4:5 - And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Rev 4:6 - - And before the throne [there was] a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
Revelation 5:1;5-7 And I (John) *SAW in the RIGHT HAND of HIM THAT SAT ON THE THRONE a BOOK WRITTEN within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals...BEHOLD > the LION of the TRIBE of JUDAH, the ROOT of DAVID, HATH PREVAILED TO OPEN THE BOOK, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, STOOD A LAMB AS IT BEEN SLAIN...HE CAME and TOOK the BOOK OUT OF THE RIGHT HAND OF HIM THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE.
@@proverbs3_5-8 I agree with Kasha. YHVH is one Supreme Being, and three personhoods not three beings. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, three persons, ONE GOD.
Mark 16:19 ESV / 300 helpful votes Thank you for your vote. So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Psalm 110:1 ESV / 289 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool uke 22:69 ESV / 264 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful But from now on the Son of Man shall be seated at the right hand of the power of God.” There is over 100 Scriptures that Jesus is sitting next to God
Keep up this dialogue please. It is very educational. Please explain: Amniotic Fluid teaching, Romans 10:9-10 how it is Romans 10:14-17 (applying the teachings of Jesus Christ in the Gospels), Paulinians about how they reject Matthew,Mark,Luke,& John,Act up to Acts 9 and James and 1 2 Peter...ect. Talk about how others totally reject all of Pauls teachings as he is a false teacher. Examples Ephesians 2:8 in contrast with James 2:17. Thank you and Jesus bless you two.
I am happy to see they are not against trinitarians! Some of my friends give these guys a hard time, but they seem really genuine. I think that we should start by getting the Church to be one, and then we can discuss doctrines.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
@@kennylindstrom1733 The father is God, the son is Jesus and holy spirit is the spirit of God. God is not Jesus and Jesus is not God but now Jesus is the ruler of everything until the time he comes, he is ruling on behalf of God so he deserves every respect as God but he is not God he is Jesus and that ruling power will end up after the final sentence, and God will be above everything and Jesus will be obove us as our king and God will be above everything as the owner of the whole kingdom nothing will be above him. Stay blessed.
Trinitarians believe in One GOD and Jesus is GOD in flesh as the Only Begotten Son Of GOD The Father who send Holy Spirit to empower us for the gospel and relationship ...It pleases The Father that we (The Bride Of Christ/The Church/The Believers/ etc. all be ONE in Spirit and in TRUTH according to His Word. Just dialoguing
Blessed are the hungry who searches for the hidden manna. Sadly a Truth hidden from the world. After my heart shouted "The Father is The Son" for years was i drawn to His Word below. A joy i want to share with you. What is faith? Thus has the Lord spoken to the generation of His wrath: "Faith is believing I AM WHO I AM, and that I am able to perform it. Faith can by no means be attained, nor can one grab hold of it by human means. For there are works done without faith, which are dead; and a faith which has works, which is also dead. Yet your faith came by My works, which enabled you to believe I AM WHO I AM. And all good works, which come forth from you, are My works also. Therefore if one is to be healed in accordance with My will, that same one must surrender to Me and My will, making no effort to increase their faith by human power as a means to a desired end. Rather they acquiesce... Knowing that all things will be done In their proper time and season, According to the love Of their Father in Heaven... Doubting nothing... Says The Lord." And He, the Holy I AM came down to us i the flesh so we may know, YAHUWAH caused to be YAHUSHUA, the perfect sacrifice. For He said "Let there be a Lamb without spot or blemish, sacrificed for the atonement of sin,” and so it was. A blameless sacrifice, no man was found blameless, not one. Thus it had to be God Himself, out of great love. Consider the love of The Father brothers and sisters, for since the beginning He knew you and your salvation was assured. Behold, thus says the Lord: "Behold My hands and My feet, And consider My love... For the scars of My passion remain, A holy, everlasting covenant, Written in the blood of The Lamb... Taste and see, beloved, drink! Until that which is veiled is veiled no longer, Until the void within your heart is filled... For My love was written in every stripe I endured for you, Poured out in every drop of blood I shed for you, Revealed when you pierced My hands and My feet... Beloved, I am married unto you!... A union sealed forever in the blood we share... Says The Lord YahuShua." Says He whose name is YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH, amen! Sealed forever, for all sons and daughters given to The Father, The Son shall not lose any of them. You've searched in the Scriptures of Truth, yet remained hungry. Dont be surprised, for a warning was given and remains so to this day (deutenoromy 4:2). Freely i received, freely i give you His plain Answer. Eat, drink and receive peace. For the Lord has revealed: "The Lord is eternal; HE IS! He never ends! His love, His mercy, His justice, His majesty, His glory, His sorrow, all that He is endures forever! Likewise His creation has no end, no boundaries! There are no limits to contain it, for it is as He is!... HE IS THE CREATOR!... Everlasting, eternal, The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End, The First and The Last by whom all things exist and have their being, through whom all living things have life! Kiss The Son, therefore! Bow down heavily and give Him glory! Let the knowledge of who He is fill your heart with wonder and awe, with great reverence and worship! Give Him thanks and praise! For Holy is The Lord God Almighty, His ways past finding out! For who can understand the knowledge of The Lord contained within creation, or know the depths of His wisdom?! Yet His Glory surrounds us on every side, testifying to His majesty beyond question! Indeed, we are without excuse! Behold, even the whole of creation shouts, “YAHUSHUA is YAHUWAH!” For it is He by whom all things consist, It is He who causes to be... For The Lord our God is One!" Amen! Let the Truth fill your heart with wonder and awe. Heed this trumpet call, for the Volumes of Truth are a testament of His sacrifice and love put forth again. Also a trumpet of alarm of war and recompense. Hear what the Word of the Lord spoken to this generation says of the path made straight again: "Behold, My words shall never pass away, for as I am so also is My Word. For it proceeds from Me, being manifest by He Who Is True, also being called The Word... Living... Always feeding His flock the Word which is written for their nourishment, which is to be received through that part of Himself which is also in Me, The Spirit called Holy, which speaks to the truth of who I am, glorifying Him who I sent to you who bears My name and reveals My glory in Himself, even as I am glorified through Him, His glory being the same I own. For We are One from the beginning, yet manifest as two in the earth, so those whom I have chosen may know Me and come to Me and receive life. For I am The Lord, and I do not change." ~ "Yet that which I speak at present must be put first. Thus that which is contained in the Volumes of Truth is foremost, and must be brought to the forefront for all to behold. Not that this Word is at all superior; neither shall it be considered inferior to My Word found in the Scriptures of Truth. For My Word is My Word; all I speak is Scripture and Truth. And that which I speak in the hearing of My prophets is written and put forth for the generation in which it is to be received, foremost, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear. And as it was in all times past, when I spoke by My servants, the prophets, and they in turn both wrote and spoke My words aloud, saying, “Thus says The Lord,” so it is at this time also, even during the end of this age which is upon you. Again, I say to you, that which proceeds from My mouth at present is foremost, and shall not be put second to My Word spoken aforetime. Neither is one a foundation for the other, as though the Word proceeding from My own mouth is in need of anything to uphold it; nor is any other witness required to prove My Word as My own, when I Myself have spoken it... MY WORD STANDS! Therefore, let My present Word be shown to be in full agreement with My former Word. For it is indeed in perfect agreement with My Word as it was, yet runs straight in comparison with that which men have made crooked. Here is wisdom few have considered, nor have they understood: If one who confesses Me lacks discernment, on account of ears which remain dull of hearing and eyes which remain dim in seeing, let them test My Word by My Word only. For any who test outside My Word, according to the words or doctrines of men, shall fail and be found in contempt before The Lord. For I alone sit as judge. Indeed, they have failed to see that My Word in the Volumes of Truth, also being called the Letters, is the rod by which the translations of men are to be tested, a light which shines upon the doctrines of men to expose them, revealing them to be blasphemies and heresies before God, all of which shall burn up in the Day, when the fire comes to test the quality of each man’s work. Therefore, if one professing faith be wise, He shall humble himself before Me, Calling upon the name of The Holy One For knowledge, in where all understanding Flows to the truly contrite and penitent, Flowing in pure testimony, free from corruption... And by this only shall one be wise in the reading, Comparing that which was given with that Which is put forth once again, discerning The Source and The Author to be the same... One Word, One Book, One on-going Testament to My glory; By no means shall it be divided into three!... Says The Lord."
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
This is blasphemy denying the trinity I hope you wake up quit following dogmas / doctrines/ I visited an apostolic church and God was angry at me for being there and asked me why am I sitting in this church Jesus and God were one in spirit but separate why is that hard for people to understand. I don't judge you I pray for you. Because Jesus was God come in the flesh but independent of each other here's proof john 4.16 Jesus said I will ask the father and he will give you another advocate helper apostolic believe Jesus only that's wrong. 🙏
Matthew 15:9 - "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Romans 10:2-4 - "For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God" That covers it.
Thank you for your explanation of your beliefs. Could you explain how you understand baptism of Christ by John the Baptist when Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God appeared at the same time?
God created man in his image, as a soul/conscience, and a spirit/breath of life, the living in a body, as one person, So the Everlasting father/divine conscience, and the son,eternal life/living water of life, and live in bodily form in the lamb/body of christ christ the savior of the world, the one God and person. As a person we will say to yourself what must I do, go left or right, speaking to our conscience. When Jesus christ speaks to the father out loud, He is speaking to His divine conscience, for the benefit of the disciples and the reader of the word,
Isaiah 9:6-7 For to us a child is born, and He will be called wonderful counseller,Mighty God, Everlasting father, prince of peace. So the question is the Everlasting father, Mighty God, the child, Jesus Christ our savior and salvation?
When Jesus says "Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had wih you before the world began.(John 17:5), for that to mean he was the plan of salvation in God's mind simply does not convey the true meaning of glory and is just one of the twists that shows your doctrine originated in the mind of man.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
And 1 Cor 15 quotes Ps 8 about the dominion of MAN, which Heb 2 tells us is fulfilled with Jesus Christ. The Ancient of days in heaven will put all things under the Son of God, the MAN Christ Jesus, that everlasting Ancient of days from heaven manifest in the flesh, by HIS OWN arm.
You missed the whole message of Corinthians 15:24-28 Jesus Christ subjected himself by laying down his flesh and blood in the cross. He defeats the devil and the antichrist. So that God can be in all who believe. The spirit of Christ which is God in us who believe in him. If Jesus did not subject himself in the flesh we would all perish. biblehub.com/lexicon/james/2-19.htm biblehub.com/lexicon/titus/2-13.htm biblehub.com/lexicon/titus/2-14.htm
If we all go to heaven? Will Jesus be there in human form with His immortal body as explained in the gospels, or Jesus on the throne as the God Revelation speaks about and who is at the right hand of who? Or does all the " manifestations fall away and only the human form Jesus will be in heaven?
just cant believe when he prayed he was talking to himself and when the voice from heaven spoke he was being a ventriloquists. But I cant believe there is 3 gods either
Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” Oneness: one man can be a plumber, husband, and father, but when he’s home he doesn’t know how to fix his own toilet because he’s not officially at work.
If only we stopped the division of doctrines. 1-3 or 3-1 it’s the same in the end. Jesus died in the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Can you imagine on judgement day, God focusing on doctrine? We need to be united in Christ. Not religion or doctrine. I could not help but notice that No time on the Holy Spirit was given. The Holy Spirit is with us know. We should dive into Him to receive the Spirit of Truth John 14:26 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:15-17 15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
if the bible states thats God is tree in one why the pentecostals Dont belive it and want to confuse the believers if you are a true disciple of Jesus you must belive the words of God Jesus in the bible no one goes to the father except true him that’s a fact belive and God will make you understand this people ar spiking in the flesh Not in the spirit God help does tha really Want to know him by heart God bless you
If JesusWas Godand manAnd man has the spirit of God in himThen Jesus had the spirit of God in him which made himGod Jesusand the spirit Sounds like a Trinity to me
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I'm trying to understand...Jesus is Yahweh of the OT (the Lord or God is one Lord) He was sitting on the throne as a spirit? He became God in the flesh/Son of God being fully God, fully man & Savior & it is Jesus who is sitting on the throne now and embodies God the Father and the Holy Spirit? Jesus was the Son of God during his incarnation on earth (therefore always being the Son of God) but he was not the Son before and not in this present time from the moment he ascended into Heaven? Thank you.
I was raused in chruch over 38 years and i never agreed with tv rule...if i would ofchad a tv as a kid i would of stayed home.but i ran to my friends to watch baseball. And thats were the trouble began..worse thing u can do to your kids is take there tv and game away...i wish i gad a tv at home as a kid it would of saved me years of trouble prison and gangs..now im good finally ..dont put 100 rules on yiur kids....my whole chruch youth group back slid .only 2 kids now adults be er back slide 99 percent of the kids turned to drugs.because the chruch pit so many rules on us..god is not to blame. Teach your own kids at home and tell b.j them about danger of drugs the chruch wont teach u abiut the real world..chruch teaches the basics which we need to know.but when it comes to tv and those things parents teach your own kids dont let people from the chruch run your life...god runs are life.99 perfect of the people i know left chruch.its because these days people are different gossip....lord please help the kids
Upci standards don't account for salvation. Research John Wesley and the "holiness movement" that he instituted, which eventually became the Methodist denomination. Upci "holiness standards" all begin with Wesley. Besides, "holiness standards" won't save you; we're saved by faith and not by works. God's sacrifice at calvary fulfils the law's requirement for blood sacrifice that was practiced in Judaism. The law no longer has any bearing and it doesn't even apply to gentiles in the church. God's salvation supersedes UPCI's goofy standards, such as watching t.v. or playing baseball, which aren't even considered sin. Telling kids that they're not allowed to participate in extracurricular activities at school is UPCI'S way to segregate and control its members in efforts to generate revenue for their pastors and board members. It's all nonsense and apostasy.
Y’all make major points and I agree with your comments:::That’s why some UPC churches are breaking away from the UPCI organizational legalism of rules that has nothing to do with salvation/it’s a personal walk with you and Jesus only with Holy Spirit guide / not you +Jesus +Pastor+rules /we been set free to do GOD’s will not man’s...Especially if UPCI is changing the rules as they go...Go figure/so many stipulations... it’s sad cause UPCI has so much to offer as a body of believers
📖 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 📖 Genesis 1:26 And *God said, *LET *US make man in *OUR image, after *OUR likeness...27 So *God created man in *his own image, in the image of *God created he him; male and female created he them. 📖 Genesis 3:22 And the *Lord *God said, Behold, the man is become as one of *US, to know good and evil: 📖 Genesis 11:5-8 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the *Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, *LET *US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the *Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 📖 Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the *Lord, saying, Whom shall *I send, and who will go for *US? Then said I, Here am I; send me. 📖 Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? 📖 John 1-3; 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 📖 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 📖 Psalm 110 The > Lord said unto my Lord Sit thou at my right hand < , until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 📖 Romans 8:34... It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 📖 Ephesians 1:20 Which he (God) wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 📖 Hebrews 1:3;13 God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. . .But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 📖 Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; 📖 Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 📖 Acts 7:55-56; 59 But he (Stephan), being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and *saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God...And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 📖 Revelation 5:1;5-7 And I (John) *saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals...behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain...he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 📖 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Who is the Holy Spirit going to hear from in John 16:13? Why are there two witnesses if there’s just one witness John 8:17? Why has no one ever seen the physical form of the Father (John 5:37), who is “us” is Genesis 1, who is “us” in Isaiah 41:21-23, who are the Spirit and the Lord sending in Isaiah 48:16 and why was the one whom their sending there from the beginning? Who is “them both” in Zechariah 6:13?
Basically when you read John 17:5 it doesn’t say what it says it means something totally different if you only add all the oneness theology into the scriptures 🤔🤔🤔
The biggest issue here is using the OT to interpret the NT and trying to squeeze that into how God has revealed himself further in the New Testament. You cannot read the Bible and come out as oneness without It making Gods revelation of Himself incoherent.
I'm Trinitarian and when I listen to Oneness explanations, it sounds just like the Trinity. Both sides agree with everything, One God, Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God, all eternal. What's the problem people?? Stop fighting! Ha ha The only differences I'm seeing is just the terminology. Oneness don't like the words "Persons" in the Godhead because it sounds like three Gods. Or the word "Triune" etc.. When I describe the IDENTITY of God I'm no longer using those terms because it can cause division. But I do believe Father Son and HS are the same God just like both sides do.
@Carlos&fams4 Cristo, the main difference between the two is VERY STARK. Oneness teach that God manifests Himself in either the Father, the son or the Holy Spirit- one at a time. In other words all three persons do not co-exist, only one can be manifested at any one time. Trinity doctrine teaches that the three persons are eternally co-existent- always existing at the same time. When it comes to Jesus the man, Oneness seem to dissect the diety Jesus and the man Jesus. Key Scriptures to consider: 1 John 5:7 There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (The Word is one of the three). John 1:14 The Word BECAME flesh (It is not the Father or the Holy Ghost who came as a man but the Word did). The Word is not to be confused as the Father or the Spirit but He is the One who has the glory as of the only begotten of the Father. 1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [Remember, it is the Word became and who has come in the flesh, that is, the Word and not the Father or the Holy Ghost]. Genesis 1:26a And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness ... To whom is God speaking? Is it to the other two of the three that are one? If He exists only as One at any given time, why would He need to speak to the plural first person. Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. [Who does the Oneness say is this Voice from heaven? Is it the Father? From a Oneness perspective it cannot be as that would mean the Father and Son are co-existing]
@@justesaying1229 Yes thank you for sharing. Also for Oneness theology it's ALL the Father only huh. They interpret the Son of God incarnate as the Father incarnated. For them the Son was never preexisting, only in the mind of God was he preexisting. So then they deny the Son! "The spirit of the antichrist denies that the Son came in the flesh" 1John 4:3 AMEN! Glory to Jesus 🙌
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit. The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe. Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his. 10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness. 11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another. 1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD. 1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST. In the exact same way, Jesus said,... Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE. Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY) Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word; 21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY) 23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM. Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU. 18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU. Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM. Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth. In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne. Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Trinity isn’t a good explanation of theFather, Son and Holy Spirit. Look at these references to the Holy Spirit. These are from the kjv. Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, the Spirit, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Spirit of the Lord , Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the living God, Spirit of our God, Spirit of your Father, holy Spirit of God, Spirit which is of God, Spirit of His Son, his Holy Spirit, My Spirit, His Spirit, the Lord is that Spirit, Spirit of grace, holy Spirit of promise, Spirit of adoption, Spirit of life in Christ, Spirit of life from God, the Spirit itself. The way the Spirit is described in the scripture as being "of God" and "of His Son" and being "His Spirit", it doesn't sound like a third person. I don't think the Spirit is a third person. I think it is what God is. Just as you and I are human beings, the Father and Son are Holy Spirit. Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit.
I think it should be-- what the Bible says about Jesus Christ.---NOT what the UPCI says about Jesus Christ. Jesus is NOT the Father--because Jesus HAS a Father.1 Corinthians says 11:3 says God is OVER Christ in authority.
You are right in part, but what you should consider is, who Jesus is. He is both GOD and man. Spirit and Flesh As GOD creator as Flesh created. He did have a father and that is the Holy Spirit according to Luke 1:31&35 His father was Spirit (GOD) and his Mother was flesh (Mary) Also we see in scripture where Philip is talking to Jesus in (John 14: 8-18 ) and says show us the father and Jesus says he that has seen me has seen the father. We see in Colossians 2:9 where is says, for in him dwelleth ALL the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. So we can see that the father dwells in the man Christ Jesus and we can say he is the father. 1 timothy 3:16. God was manifest in the flesh. God was made visible in human flesh. So he was father incarnate, but in the flesh, Jesus was able to say God was his father.
Jesus is not God's Son in the sense of human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God's Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, "The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God." During His trial before the Jewish leaders, the High Priest demanded of Jesus, " I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God" (Matthew 26:63). "Yes, it is as you say; Jesus replied. `But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven" (Matthew 26:64). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26:65-66). Later before Pontius Pilate, " The Jewish insisted, We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God" (John 19:7). Why would His claiming to be the Son of God considered and be worth of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase "Son of God." To be the Son of God is "of God." The claim to be of the same nature as God--to in fact be God--was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus' death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15. Hebrew 1:3 expresses this very clearly, "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being." Another example can be found in John 17:12 where Judas is described as the "son of perdition." John 6:71 tells us that Judas was the son of Simon. What does John 17:12 mean by describing Judas as the "son of perdition"? The word perdition means "destruction, ruin, waste." Judas was not the literal son of "ruin, destruction, and waste," but those things where the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition. In this same way, Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1 14).
What a shame these ministers are relating to the old testament for their proof that God is singular . Yet in Genesis 's God proclaimed let US make man in OUR image . This proof positive there where more than one that represent God .Is it so hard to believe that God could be ONE and yet be three . Known as ONE because God says it is so . Who are we to rebuke what God want for his creation . .
Perplexed that the trinity doctrine does not work and also the oneness IMHO against the whole of scripture having tested both for validity. Is it possible that the adversary has blinded our eyes in the matter of true godhead doctrine that only in these end times will be wrested from him (the adversary)? I believe we are currently bamboozled and wrong doctrine to either side of the ditch. So grateful for your presentation and resources provided as I continue to explore Him.
Argh my brother; I hope I'm not a lost cause in these matters! I've never been trinitarian nor fully oneness, but my 6 years of bible college was oneness, and 3 of the 6 churches I'm involved in are oneness, I am quire more offended by the trinitarian doctrine than the oneness because they habitually use non-biblical terms to describe God as fact out if hand. Trinity and Oneness are unproven hypotheses. Note that neither sect can convince the other and convert them to their fold en-mass, and neither can point to where the early apostles laid the doctrine plainly and bare for us to see and be sure.* Admit it is for us now a mystery and the matter of determining the godhead can be reexamined in our day and times. The matter is not fully settled, we have not come to end times unity/oneness of faith. (Ephesians 4:13 and other sections in the Pauline letters) If you in this subscribed group are interested in my put in the matter I will see to making a comprehensive but succinct article on my experience and doctrine stance that lies between this disruptive to unity stalemate of T vs O. I'm kinda the middle, I believe Apostle Paul knew the Godhead well but did not tell us, the HS is saying it is right before us and the adversary blurrs it to kill conquer and destroy; at all costs he must not have us fully in Christ displaying full love and unity for then immediately comes the bride and end for him. Loving you deeply all my wonderful brothers and sisters!
@@LarzGustafsson and I was 4th generation Apostolic and by Gods grace and His word I am part of the Church of God, a trinitarian. Oneness has to omit a ton of scriptures and assume and insert so much opinion. Think about this, the entire world of Christendom believes in One God that makes himself known to us as Father, Son and Spirit. Who rejects the triune nature of God? Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. I like what Paul said to Corinth, The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ AND the love of God AND the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all! 2 Cor 13:14 Look into the Didache, its a church document that dates back probably around 70 or 80 AD and it speaks of a baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit, so it wasnt 325 AD council of NIcea, this was early on as Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit....now if the Oneness people are correct according to their doctrine they would be the ONLY ones correct. We have a huge problem, we have hundreds and hundreds of years with no trace of their baptism or people speaking in tongues until about 1920 before men started raising questions and split the church. Hebrew and Greek scholars, all of Christianity, all denominations, all accept the triune nature of God and understand that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh but within harmony of the entire bible.
@@sayetauaupee6482 non biblical terms like 'rapture'? we know that word doesn't exist in the text but we use it to speak of a teaching within the Bible. I was 4th generation Apostolic and by Gods grace and His word I am part of the Church of God, a trinitarian. Oneness has to omit a ton of scriptures and assume and insert so much opinion. Think about this, the entire world of Christendom believes in One God that makes himself known to us as Father, Son and Spirit. Who rejects the triune nature of God? Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. I like what Paul said to Corinth, The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ AND the love of God AND the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all! 2 Cor 13:14 Look into the Didache, its a church document that dates back probably around 70 or 80 AD and it speaks of a baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit, so it wasn't 325 AD council of Nicaea, this was early on as Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit....now if the Oneness people are correct according to their doctrine they would be the ONLY ones correct. We have a huge problem, we have hundreds and hundreds of years with no trace of their baptism or people speaking in tongues until about 1920 before men started raising questions and split the church. Hebrew and Greek scholars, all of Christianity, all denominations, all accept the triune nature of God and understand that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh but within harmony of the entire bible.
I like wheat Larz had to say thanks. Here's a link to a 40 years ago sermon by a oneness pastor and the last 2/3's of it not really being to debunk trinity or oneness does just that. I'm really interested in seeing a paragraph statement on the godhead that stands up to all critical exploration. I haven't seen one.
In Genesis the Bible says, “Let US make man in OUR image.” In Revelation 6:16-17 the Bible says, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of THEIR wrath has come…” In Luke 23:46 the Bible says, “Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into YOUR hands I commit my spirit.” Is Jesus talking to Himself here? In John 16:28 Jesus says, “I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” Notice Jesus did not say, “I left heaven and became the son, and now I am going back to heaven to become the Father again. In John 16:38 Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This verse is saying Jesus has His own will and the Father has His. Yes, they don’t disagree, of course, but still this verse speaks of two wills. In John 14:31 Jesus says, “…but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me.” In John 5:19 Jesus says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” In John 1:1 the Bible says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God.” If Oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” Again, if oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “No one can come to me, unless I draw him.” In John 10:15, Jesus says, “…even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.” Matthew 26:29 says, “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” Read for yourself; does this sound like oneness, or is Jesus having conversations with the Father within the triune God-head?
Sam Shamoun insulted Brother David Bernard by calling him a son of the devil. I wish David would debate him just to put to shame Sam's statements like Jesus is schizophrenic, because somebody needs to shut up those blasphemous lies.
Certainly the TRINITY doctrine does not square with either The Holy Bible, with logic, or with math; and just as certainly, neither does your ONENESS doctrine. 1. To whom was Jesus praying every time he prayed? 2. How do you explain to the word "AND" when Jesus spoke simultaneously of himself and his father? 3. What kind of "glory" (presence) did Jesus have with his father "since before the world was"?
That's because most churches believe in the trinity , we don't. Also we have rules that a lot say it's the church rules but no, we get rules from the bible.
Amen ! The trinitarians are hypocrites and refuse to bend theirs knees to the true Jesus and true God and Father of the bible. Jesus is the true God (Father) and eternal life 1John5:20
They can only deceive people who blindly follow or do not read their bibles without presuppositions. They are saying Jesus was not talking to His Father, but just “talking” so humans could hear Him? Seriously people think scripturally for yourself as the Holy Spirit reveals the truth. In the Old Testament many times God revealed Himself as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God said let Us create man in OUR image. We were not created in the image of angels, but God. So simple. David himself said my Lord said to the Lord, and both Jesus repeated him, and Luke in Acts when Peter preached repeated him. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father is true not just a metaphor, according to all of scripture rightly divided. If you do not acknowledge Jesus as God and the Son of God, not just the son of man, you cannot be saved according to the New Testament. It is a scary thing to REJECT Jesus from being God or the Son of God who Revelation tells us will be on the throne forever.
God never Died,when Jusus died,It was his humanity,The man Who died.Jesus commends His Spirit To the Father and gives up the Ghost.It was the man Christ Jesus who died.Oneness pentecostles never teaches that God died. We must make the distinctions clear. Jesus was hungry ,bod God Jesus grew in wisdom The Father needs no wisdom or knowlege becauseHe has no limit of knowledge and wisdom. Jesus was asleep in the boat The father never sleeps nor slumbers. The distinctions of the Godhead in Jesus are all between the Diety and humaiity of Christ. He was fully God and fully human.
@@kevincook8268 How about that Jesus is not the Father, but just God's son? Matt 3:17 - And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Did Jesus ever said that he was the Father? In Joh 14:9 Jesus said "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" What did Jesus mean by this? Did Jesus say that he was the Father. NO!!! All that Jesus meant was in Joh 12:45 "And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." Because Jesus knew that nobody could see the Father. Exo 33:20 - But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.” Now if you are saying that Jesus was the Father, then you are saying that all people are the Father. Because Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. (Kol 1:15.) Who else is in the image of the Father? All people are. Gen 1:26 - Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; Now I have a question for you: Why would you say that your religion is the true religion?
@@katelynschultz4191 but Jesus is not almighty. If he was almighty, then he can not die. If Jesus can not die, then what did he sacrificed? Jesus never referred to himself as almighty or that he is the Father. If you read the bible, you will see that Jesus was send. (Joh 3:16) He was given all authority. (Matt 28:18) Jesus has a Father and he has a God. (Joh 20:17) Jesus was given a higher position en he was given a name above everyone else. (Phil 2:9,10) Jesus was send to do the will of his Father. (Joh 4:34) Jesus was the first born of the creation. (Col 1:15) Jesus said that his Father is greater than himself. (Joh 14:28) The Father is the head of Jesus. (1 Cor 11:3) All things have been subjected to Jesus, but Jesus is subjected to his Father. ( 1 Cor 15:27,28) People has seen Jesus, but nobody has seen God. (Joh 1:18) Jesus is the only-begotten son. The almighty Father can not be begotten. (Joh 1:14) Although Jesus created everything, he is not the creator. God used Jesus to create everything (Heb 1:2) It is very clear to me that Jesus is not God the Father or equal to the Father.
I believe that Jesus also exists as the Holy Spirit of YHWH. I am just happy to practice that belief outside of the Pentecostal movement. "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” -John 8:58 "Modalistic Monarchianism (also known as modalism or Oneness Christology) is a Christian theology that upholds the oneness of God as well as the deity of Jesus Christ. It is a form of Monarchianism and as such stands in contrast with Trinitarianism. Modalistic Monarchianism considers God to be one while working through the different "modes" or "manifestations" of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
GOD to be One working through the different modes of Father Son & Holy Ghost DOES NOT MAKE SENSE...GOD +Father +Son +Holy Ghost +=It appears that’s Four not Three... it should be Father (GOD) working through The Son and Holy Ghost////Think about it ?
@@maryhelencampos9964 God is the word, the word is Christ. God is a spirit Only God is Holy. Thus, that equates God as the Holy Spirit. Therefore, God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit are the same person manifested in three different, but equal, forms. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14
I would recommend that you read all of John 5 and all of John 10. The Son is distinct from the Father even the demons recognized this. Checkout Anthony Rogers and Dr. Edward Dalcour for me indepth info on the Trinity. Oneness theology is in error on many doctrines. If you deny the son you don't have the father those that affirm the son has the father. You cannot escape the prepositions.
Acts 7:55 Jesus is standing at the right hand of God. If Jesus and God are one, therefore it is wrong that Jesus is Standing at the right hand of God as per ACTS 7:55
Because that is not literally speaking is spiritually symbolic , it’s showing his power because that’s we understand that right hand in our language means power and authority
@@carolineadams4037 …That is what the Sanhedrin used to condemn Jesus Christ to death. Stephen, the first martyr said Jesus had power and authority. The Jews knew what he was talking about and stoned him to death.
The Trinity or Tri-unity of God is the biblical revelation that is revealed in the holy scripture. The oneness teaching always have to rationalize verses in the Bible to try to make their point..It is tons of verses that support evidence of the Holy Trinity....John 17 Jesus is clearly praying 🙏 to God the Father...because thats what the text says....also in the gospel of John Jesus talks about the Holy Spirit coming after he leaves...who proceeds from the Father and the Son.....I am sharing this because I use to believe in the oneness teaching yrs ago until someone showed me a simple truth...just accept the Word for what it is saying, don't try to add to it to prove your point..and that's exactly what the oneness teaching does..Question...who is talking to God in the book of Hebrews 10:5-9?
1 Corinthians 15:24-28. 24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
N’komon you went wrong when you took teaching from someone who didn’t have the revelation. Matt 28:19 & Acts 2:38 is quick and simplifies any identify crisis people may have.
Let Us make Man In Our Image /exactly what Image is that? If you look into the mirror you see your image One person. Could it be possible The Father is the Soul /The Son is the Body/The Holy Ghost is the Spirit...body soul & spirit that creates one human being .I guess that’s why the Godhead is a mystery...just dialoguing
Titus 2:13 “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”
This does not refute trinitarian belief. I would implore you to check out the links I've posted on previous comments as well as read the comments. I went to a oneness church for a year and have found that the teaching of the nature of God as well as baptismal regeneration are not supported by the whole of scripture. The Bible says who the son sets free is free indeed. Jesus is not a plan of thought in God's mind but existed with God in the beginning as John's prologue eloquently states.
So thankful for this clear teaching that can be use in evangelism,saving souls.
I used to think Jesus only came as a representative of God, and i came out of a catholic church that believed in the Trinity, I never had faith in that concept. It was only until I came to the doctrine of oneness that finally makes sense. Thank you God for giving me the true revelation of the holy scriptures
He Jesus has shown me so much ch in the last month of his Goodness his Mercy and his Grace that if it was all for sale I would be rich 😊. He is s the ONE true Lord and Savior ❣️I will always walk by my Faith and in the footsteps he has laid out for Me .I Speak Jesus !
All I am going to say is that I am going to cite this: "God in His existence as the Three-in-One is beyond the limits of human comprehension." by Charles C. Ryrie
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same Yesterday, Today and Forever!! Jesus is God Alone!!!
Who was Jesus all ways praying to ?
Flesh giving way to spirit.
To the Father, not own spirit! That's his own human interpretation
I ONLY BELIEVED IN JESUS CHRIST. HALLELUJAH JESUS CHRIST AMEN.
John 17:1-4: “After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.”
I believe any average person would read this and identify it as a conversation between two persons. The oneness perspective is difficult to comprehend.
Myles Shelby, when you say "The oneness perspective is difficult to comprehend.", I would suggest, the oneness perspective makes it easy to identify FALSE DOCTRINE.
Finite minds CANNOT comprehend infinity and timelessness. But it’s by faith that we live according to his word. HIS word that states I and my father are ONE. His word that states unto us a son is given, … wonderful counselor, EVERLASTING FATHER, MIGHTY GOD, prince of peace. His word that states in the beginning was the word and the word was with GOD and the word WAS GOD
Just because I can’t fully wrap my head around the idea that GOD and Jesus are the same personal being, that doesn’t mean it isn’t so.
Do your spirit and your flesh are two person ? Does God spirit be able to talk with himself in flesh ?
@@PH_INFO_101How?
@@gabeakuo5081I agree. God the Father and God the Son are one. However, they are separate is personhood and functionality. Again, Jesus is clearly talking to another person in this text. Are we saying he’s speaking to himself (or his Spirit)?
Bear in mind that Jesus had taught us to pray and worship God the Father wholeheartedly.
Thank you nice message JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONE AND TRUE LIVING GOD amen
Jesus is God but, He is not the FATHER, amen.
God Bless!
@@msolav63 John 10:30
“I and my Father are one.”
King James Version (KJV)
@@pentecostTV In John 10:30
“I and my Father are one.”
The mistake you make is to believe that "one" only means that it is the same when it means being in agreement.
We too can be one with the Father and the Son and that doesn't mean that we are God. But we can be in the same communion or the same feeling or unity.
Read what John 17: 20-23 says so that you understand:
20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
21 that all of them may BE ONE, FATHER, just as YOU are in ME and I am in YOU. May THEY also be in US so that the world may believe that you have SENT ME.
22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may BE ONE AS WE ARE ONE
23 I in THEM and YOU in ME so that they may be brought to complete UNITY. Then the world will know that YOU SENT ME and have loved THEM even as YOU have loved ME.
John 14: 9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Many Oneness presents this verse to try to show that the Father and the Son are the same but this doesn't mean or imply that they are. Let it be the same word that interprets, clarifies and brings light to what is not clear.
To understand better, let's see an example where Jesus uses the same type of expression:
In Luke 10:16 it says:
He who hears you hears me; and he who rejects you rejects me; and whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.
This verse speaks or refers between us, Jesus and the one who sent Jesus.
If we applied the idea that you have been taught in this other passage, we would have to deduce that you and all the other Christians are the same Jesus. This would be completely absurd.
Here are other examples:
Jesus tells us in:
John 6:46
46 Not that anyone has seen the FATHER, except He who is from God; He has seen the FATHER.
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the FATHER, He has declared HIM.
Matthew 10:40
40 He who welcomes you welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me.
He who sees Jesus sees the Father, but that does not mean that Jesus is the Father. For we can see the Father through Jesus. Whoever listens to us listens to Jesus, but that does not mean that we are Jesus. Well, we can hear the words or teachings of Jesus through a brother or preacher etc. Whoever rejects us also rejects Jesus. Knowing Jesus is knowing the Father but this does not mean that Jesus is the Father. Whoever receives us receives Jesus that does not mean that we are Jesus. Whoever receives Jesus receives the one who sent him that does not mean that Jesus is the Father.
In Matthew 25: 34-46 it says
34 Then the King will say to those on his right: Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in;
36 I was naked, and you covered me; sick, and you visited me; in jail, and you came to me.
37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying: Lord, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY, AND SUSTAIN YOU, OR THIRSTY, AND TELL YOU TO DRINK?
38 And when did we see you a stranger, and took you in, or naked, and covered you?
39 Or when did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?
40 And the King answering, will say to them: VERY VERY I TELL YOU THAT HOW MUCH YOU DID TO ONE OF THESE MY SMALLER BROTHERS, YOU DID IT TO ME.
41 Then he will also say to those on the left: GET AWAY FROM ME, YOU CURSED ONES, TO THE ETERNAL FIRE PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
42 Because I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink;
43 I was a stranger, and you did not take me in; I was naked, and you did not cover me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit me.
44 Then they too will answer him saying: Lord, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY, THIRSTY, STRANGER, NAKED, SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND DO NOT SERVE YOU?
45 Then he will answer them saying: TRUE SAY I TELL YOU THAT AS SOON AS YOU DIDN'T DO IT TO ONE OF THESE SMALLEST, YOU DIDN'T DO IT TO ME.
46 And these will go to eternal punishment, and the righteous to eternal life.
Jesus tells us in
John 8: 17-19
17 And in your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am the one who testifies about myself, and the FATHER who sent me testifies about me.
19 They said to him, "Where is your Father?" Jesus answered: You neither know me nor my Father; If you knew me, you would also know my Father.
None of these verses you have given me say that Jesus is Father. Therefore, you should not quote the Philip passage out of context to misinterpret it.
In Romans 12:5 it says:
5 so WE, being MANY, are ONE body in Christ, and individually members of one another.
Jesus is not the Father
God Bless!
@@msolav63 no mistake sir JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR CASE ON JUDGEMENT DAY OK EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS IT CLEAR AS I JUST DID 1 John 5:20
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” GOD HAS NOT GIVEN YOU UNDERSTANDING YET thanks
@@pentecostTV
In 1 John 5:20 it says that Jesus is the Son of God not the FATHER.
As it says in 1 John 5:20
20 And we know that THE Son OF GOD HAS COME and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
Jesus is true God but Jesus said that the FATHER is the ONLY TRUE GOD!
John 17:1-3
17 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “FATHER, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify YOU ,
2 as YOU have given HIM authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as YOU have given Him.
3 And this is eternal life, that they may know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ WHOM YOU HAVE SENT.
Jesus is God but he is not the FATHER, He is the Son.
God Bless!
We have 1 God; THE FATHER. 1 Corinthians 8:6
Our Great Doctrine that needs to be shared to all the world. Thank you for this refresher sermon. God Bless you.
Pentecostals and UPCI aren't the only protestants who believe in the "oneness doctrine." Upci acts like they have a patent on oneness theology. It's annoying.
Why would you teach a lie to the whole world?
Amen !!!
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
This is a heretical doctrine
I became a Christian in 2014 in a trinitarian church from assembly of Christian churches . In 2015 I found another assembly church named IPUL and when my wife asked me you know they’re unicitarians and explained what it meant , I said to her yes that’s what I believe. So all these years I was in a trinitarian church , asking oneness Pentecostalism questions with no answers and in 2016 I came to know that I was one with oneness Pentecostalism belief …. There’s more churches believing this same principal UPC in USA , IPUC in Colombia and IPUL in USA for Latinos . Great video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I am from Pentecostal Church background in Indonesia. We believe in Trinity God. But they are One. GOD THE FATHER, LORD JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT. THEY ALL ONE HALLELUJAH❤❤❤
Beloved Brothers & Sisters, If I have learned anything in my 60 years on Gods earth is to seriously question anyone who tells you of their vast education & achievements prior to trying to sell you something. Matthew 11:25 (NASB)_ At that time Jesus said, 'I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent, and have revealed them to infants._ 1 John 2:27 (NASB) _As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him._
Oh, I WANNA see Him. This God of the old testament, manifested in flesh in the new. I wanna behold [in person] Him one of these days.
We will!
John 1:1-14 God Himself Cames to be flesh
The Bible says blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. I cried out that I wanted to see Him and He showed me the throne. Get a godly jealousy, and seek Him sister. Seek Him.
Wonderful teaching in the Godhead!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
Dr. Norris, thank you for this explanation on Jesus’ prayer in John 17!
Rev 4:1 - After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2 - And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne.
Rev 4:3 - And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and [there was] a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
Rev 4:4 - And round about the throne [were] four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
Rev 4:5 - And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
Rev 4:6 - - And before the throne [there was] a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
Revelation 5:1;5-7 And I (John) *SAW in the RIGHT HAND of HIM THAT SAT ON THE THRONE a BOOK WRITTEN within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals...BEHOLD > the LION of the TRIBE of JUDAH, the ROOT of DAVID, HATH PREVAILED TO OPEN THE BOOK, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, STOOD A LAMB AS IT BEEN SLAIN...HE CAME and TOOK the BOOK OUT OF THE RIGHT HAND OF HIM THAT SAT UPON THE THRONE.
@@proverbs3_5-8 I agree with Kasha. YHVH is one Supreme Being, and three personhoods not three beings. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, three persons, ONE GOD.
Mark 16:19 ESV / 300 helpful votes Thank you for your vote.
So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
Psalm 110:1 ESV / 289 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
A Psalm of David. The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool
uke 22:69 ESV / 264 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
But from now on the Son of Man shall be seated at the right hand of the power of God.”
There is over 100 Scriptures that Jesus is sitting next to God
@@proverbs3_5-8 The oneness skips these verses
Thanks Pastor David Barnard I want to join your ministry Your Study is true study
Keep up this dialogue please. It is very educational. Please explain: Amniotic Fluid teaching, Romans 10:9-10 how it is Romans 10:14-17 (applying the teachings of Jesus Christ in the Gospels), Paulinians about how they reject Matthew,Mark,Luke,& John,Act up to Acts 9 and James and 1 2 Peter...ect. Talk about how others totally reject all of Pauls teachings as he is a false teacher. Examples Ephesians 2:8 in contrast with James 2:17. Thank you and Jesus bless you two.
I am happy to see they are not against trinitarians! Some of my friends give these guys a hard time, but they seem really genuine. I think that we should start by getting the Church to be one, and then we can discuss doctrines.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
@@LUPPER. Well there you go!
@@kennylindstrom1733 The father is God, the son is Jesus and holy spirit is the spirit of God. God is not Jesus and Jesus is not God but now Jesus is the ruler of everything until the time he comes, he is ruling on behalf of God so he deserves every respect as God but he is not God he is Jesus and that ruling power will end up after the final sentence, and God will be above everything and Jesus will be obove us as our king and God will be above everything as the owner of the whole kingdom nothing will be above him.
Stay blessed.
The oneness is a sect..
Trinitarians believe in One GOD and Jesus is GOD in flesh as the Only Begotten Son Of GOD The Father who send Holy Spirit to empower us for the gospel and relationship ...It pleases The Father that we (The Bride Of Christ/The Church/The Believers/ etc. all be ONE in Spirit and in TRUTH according to His Word. Just dialoguing
Blessed are the hungry who searches for the hidden manna. Sadly a Truth hidden from the world. After my heart shouted "The Father is The Son" for years was i drawn to His Word below. A joy i want to share with you. What is faith? Thus has the Lord spoken to the generation of His wrath:
"Faith is believing I AM WHO I AM, and that I am able to perform it. Faith can by no means be attained, nor can one grab hold of it by human means.
For there are works done without faith, which are dead; and a faith which has works, which is also dead. Yet your faith came by My works, which enabled you to believe I AM WHO I AM. And all good works, which come forth from you, are My works also.
Therefore if one is to be healed in accordance with My will, that same one must surrender to Me and My will, making no effort to increase their faith by human power as a means to a desired end.
Rather they acquiesce...
Knowing that all things will be done
In their proper time and season,
According to the love
Of their Father in Heaven...
Doubting nothing...
Says The Lord."
And He, the Holy I AM came down to us i the flesh so we may know, YAHUWAH caused to be YAHUSHUA, the perfect sacrifice. For He said "Let there be a Lamb without spot or blemish, sacrificed for the atonement of sin,” and so it was. A blameless sacrifice, no man was found blameless, not one. Thus it had to be God Himself, out of great love. Consider the love of The Father brothers and sisters, for since the beginning He knew you and your salvation was assured. Behold, thus says the Lord:
"Behold My hands and My feet,
And consider My love...
For the scars of My passion remain,
A holy, everlasting covenant,
Written in the blood of The Lamb...
Taste and see, beloved, drink!
Until that which is veiled is veiled no longer,
Until the void within your heart is filled...
For My love was written in every stripe I endured for you,
Poured out in every drop of blood I shed for you,
Revealed when you pierced My hands and My feet...
Beloved, I am married unto you!...
A union sealed forever in the blood we share...
Says The Lord YahuShua."
Says He whose name is YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH, amen! Sealed forever, for all sons and daughters given to The Father, The Son shall not lose any of them. You've searched in the Scriptures of Truth, yet remained hungry. Dont be surprised, for a warning was given and remains so to this day (deutenoromy 4:2). Freely i received, freely i give you His plain Answer. Eat, drink and receive peace. For the Lord has revealed:
"The Lord is eternal; HE IS! He never ends! His love, His mercy, His justice, His majesty, His glory, His sorrow, all that He is endures forever! Likewise His creation has no end, no boundaries! There are no limits to contain it, for it is as He is!... HE IS THE CREATOR!... Everlasting, eternal, The Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End, The First and The Last by whom all things exist and have their being, through whom all living things have life!
Kiss The Son, therefore! Bow down heavily and give Him glory! Let the knowledge of who He is fill your heart with wonder and awe, with great reverence and worship! Give Him thanks and praise! For Holy is The Lord God Almighty, His ways past finding out! For who can understand the knowledge of The Lord contained within creation, or know the depths of His wisdom?! Yet His Glory surrounds us on every side, testifying to His majesty beyond question! Indeed, we are without excuse!
Behold, even the whole of creation shouts,
“YAHUSHUA is YAHUWAH!”
For it is He by whom all things consist,
It is He who causes to be...
For The Lord our God is One!"
Amen! Let the Truth fill your heart with wonder and awe. Heed this trumpet call, for the Volumes of Truth are a testament of His sacrifice and love put forth again. Also a trumpet of alarm of war and recompense. Hear what the Word of the Lord spoken to this generation says of the path made straight again:
"Behold, My words shall never pass away, for as I am so also is My Word. For it proceeds from Me, being manifest by He Who Is True, also being called The Word... Living... Always feeding His flock the Word which is written for their nourishment, which is to be received through that part of Himself which is also in Me, The Spirit called Holy, which speaks to the truth of who I am, glorifying Him who I sent to you who bears My name and reveals My glory in Himself, even as I am glorified through Him, His glory being the same I own. For We are One from the beginning, yet manifest as two in the earth, so those whom I have chosen may know Me and come to Me and receive life. For I am The Lord, and I do not change."
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"Yet that which I speak at present must be put first. Thus that which is contained in the Volumes of Truth is foremost, and must be brought to the forefront for all to behold. Not that this Word is at all superior; neither shall it be considered inferior to My Word found in the Scriptures of Truth. For My Word is My Word; all I speak is Scripture and Truth. And that which I speak in the hearing of My prophets is written and put forth for the generation in which it is to be received, foremost, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear.
And as it was in all times past, when I spoke by My servants, the prophets, and they in turn both wrote and spoke My words aloud, saying, “Thus says The Lord,” so it is at this time also, even during the end of this age which is upon you.
Again, I say to you, that which proceeds from My mouth at present is foremost, and shall not be put second to My Word spoken aforetime. Neither is one a foundation for the other, as though the Word proceeding from My own mouth is in need of anything to uphold it; nor is any other witness required to prove My Word as My own, when I Myself have spoken it... MY WORD STANDS! Therefore, let My present Word be shown to be in full agreement with My former Word. For it is indeed in perfect agreement with My Word as it was, yet runs straight in comparison with that which men have made crooked.
Here is wisdom few have considered, nor have they understood: If one who confesses Me lacks discernment, on account of ears which remain dull of hearing and eyes which remain dim in seeing, let them test My Word by My Word only. For any who test outside My Word, according to the words or doctrines of men, shall fail and be found in contempt before The Lord. For I alone sit as judge. Indeed, they have failed to see that My Word in the Volumes of Truth, also being called the Letters, is the rod by which the translations of men are to be tested, a light which shines upon the doctrines of men to expose them, revealing them to be blasphemies and heresies before God, all of which shall burn up in the Day, when the fire comes to test the quality of each man’s work.
Therefore, if one professing faith be wise,
He shall humble himself before Me,
Calling upon the name of The Holy One
For knowledge, in where all understanding
Flows to the truly contrite and penitent,
Flowing in pure testimony, free from corruption...
And by this only shall one be wise in the reading,
Comparing that which was given with that
Which is put forth once again, discerning
The Source and The Author to be the same...
One Word, One Book,
One on-going Testament to My glory;
By no means shall it be divided into three!...
Says The Lord."
Hallelujah!! Oneness God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit
The holy spirit is God's spirit which is also the spirit of Christ.
Amen! I love the Oneness Doctrine! I’m so thankful to have been taught this truth and have received it! Over 10 years ago! Jesus is Lord!
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
This is blasphemy denying the trinity I hope you wake up quit following dogmas / doctrines/ I visited an apostolic church and God was angry at me for being there and asked me why am I sitting in this church Jesus and God were one in spirit but separate why is that hard for people to understand. I don't judge you I pray for you. Because Jesus was God come in the flesh but independent of each other here's proof john 4.16 Jesus said I will ask the father and he will give you another advocate helper apostolic believe Jesus only that's wrong. 🙏
Michele you're deceived and not only that you're an antichrist he who denies the son or the father is an antichrist.
They lied to you, Jesus has a God and Father.
@Tyler B #2 Jesus Christ had a God and Father.
Jhn 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Matthew 15:9 - "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Romans 10:2-4 - "For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God"
That covers it.
Thank you for your explanation of your beliefs. Could you explain how you understand baptism of Christ by John the Baptist when Jesus, the Holy Spirit and God appeared at the same time?
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Amen great lesson
God bless you, gentlemen in His Name…JESUS
God created man in his image, as a soul/conscience, and a spirit/breath of life, the living in a body, as one person, So the Everlasting father/divine conscience, and the son,eternal life/living water of life, and live in bodily form in the lamb/body of christ christ the savior of the world, the one God and person. As a person we will say to yourself what must I do, go left or right, speaking to our conscience. When Jesus christ speaks to the father out loud, He is speaking to His divine conscience, for the benefit of the disciples and the reader of the word,
Wonderful! Thank you.
Isaiah 9:6-7 For to us a child is born, and He will be called wonderful counseller,Mighty God, Everlasting father, prince of peace. So the question is the Everlasting father, Mighty God, the child, Jesus Christ our savior and salvation?
When Jesus says "Father, glorify me in your presence with
the glory I had wih you before the world began.(John 17:5), for that to mean he was the plan of salvation in God's mind simply does not convey the true meaning of glory and is just one of the twists that shows your doctrine originated in the mind of man.
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Booyah! 🙌
Isaiah 40:10 and Philippians 3:21, the Lord GOD, or Jesus Christ, subdues all things unto HIMSELF by his own arm.
Isaiah 40:10 and Philippians 3:21, the Lord GOD, or Jesus Christ, subdues all things unto HIMSELF by his own arm.
And 1 Cor 15 quotes Ps 8 about the dominion of MAN, which Heb 2 tells us is fulfilled with Jesus Christ.
The Ancient of days in heaven will put all things under the Son of God, the MAN Christ Jesus, that everlasting Ancient of days from heaven manifest in the flesh, by HIS OWN arm.
You missed the whole message of Corinthians 15:24-28 Jesus Christ subjected himself by laying down his flesh and blood in the cross. He defeats the devil and the antichrist. So that God can be in all who believe. The spirit of Christ which is God in us who believe in him. If Jesus did not subject himself in the flesh we would all perish.
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Dear Mr. David K. Bernard ,
Neither your organization nor ours are exclusive
to the truth (Oneness)
Let us work toward the same goal ... ?
Jesus Christ, the only way. Truth found in scripture
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! ☝🏻😇
I will be publishing a book on oneness theology
Could you review
I love this thank you so much
I am pastor from India andrapradesh
If we all go to heaven? Will Jesus be there in human form with His immortal body as explained in the gospels, or Jesus on the throne as the God Revelation speaks about and who is at the right hand of who? Or does all the " manifestations fall away and only the human form Jesus will be in heaven?
Praise God's!!
just cant believe when he prayed he was talking to himself and when the voice from heaven spoke he was being a ventriloquists. But I cant believe there is 3 gods either
Matthew 24:36
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” Oneness: one man can be a plumber, husband, and father, but when he’s home he doesn’t know how to fix his own toilet because he’s not officially at work.
Jesus…The New Covenant Name
Is Jesus the man or is he God? He kept saying that Jesus the man talked with the Father. Is the Father, God? Or is Jesus, God?
If only we stopped the division of doctrines. 1-3 or 3-1 it’s the same in the end. Jesus died in the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Can you imagine on judgement day, God focusing on doctrine? We need to be united in Christ. Not religion or doctrine.
I could not help but notice that No time on the Holy Spirit was given. The Holy Spirit is with us know. We should dive into Him to receive the Spirit of Truth John 14:26 26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:15-17 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.
16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever-
17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
Amen😇
In ephesians. One lord. One faith one baptism. Which is spirit not water.
what's the difference between UPCI and ACE(apostolic church of Ethiopia)
is that about divine flesh of Jesus Christ?
Yes jesus is 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
“The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.”
- 1 Corinthians 15:47 (KJV)
@@ethiopiaspy1816 when you say "The first man is of the earth, earthy" are you talking about identity of Adam or Jesus Christ?
or ...
@COGTB & many others ...
( UPCI is not the only one )
Amen 🙏
heretix
if the bible states thats God is tree in one why the pentecostals Dont belive it and want to confuse the believers if you are a true disciple of Jesus you must belive the words of God Jesus in the bible no one goes to the father except true him that’s a fact belive and God will make you understand this people ar spiking in the flesh Not in the spirit God help does tha really Want to know him by heart God bless you
If JesusWas Godand manAnd man has the spirit of God in himThen Jesus had the spirit of God in him which made himGod Jesusand the spirit Sounds like a Trinity to me
1 Timothy 3:16
Hello brother Greetings I'm Shawn Please give me a favour I want to study more and more about Oneness of Jesus Christ and Please you can send me These books free PDF cuz I can't afford it ..
1.Oneness view of Jesus Christ by Dr. David Barnard
2.The Oneness of God by Dr. David Barnard
3. I am by David Norris
4. Glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ by Dr. David k. Barnard
I'm trying to understand...Jesus is Yahweh of the OT (the Lord or God is one Lord) He was sitting on the throne as a spirit? He became God in the flesh/Son of God being fully God, fully man & Savior & it is Jesus who is sitting on the throne now and embodies God the Father and the Holy Spirit? Jesus was the Son of God during his incarnation on earth (therefore always being the Son of God) but he was not the Son before and not in this present time from the moment he ascended into Heaven? Thank you.
I timothy 3.16
I was raused in chruch over 38 years and i never agreed with tv rule...if i would ofchad a tv as a kid i would of stayed home.but i ran to my friends to watch baseball. And thats were the trouble began..worse thing u can do to your kids is take there tv and game away...i wish i gad a tv at home as a kid it would of saved me years of trouble prison and gangs..now im good finally ..dont put 100 rules on yiur kids....my whole chruch youth group back slid .only 2 kids now adults be er back slide 99 percent of the kids turned to drugs.because the chruch pit so many rules on us..god is not to blame. Teach your own kids at home and tell b.j them about danger of drugs the chruch wont teach u abiut the real world..chruch teaches the basics which we need to know.but when it comes to tv and those things parents teach your own kids dont let people from the chruch run your life...god runs are life.99 perfect of the people i know left chruch.its because these days people are different gossip....lord please help the kids
Upci standards don't account for salvation. Research John Wesley and the "holiness movement" that he instituted, which eventually became the Methodist denomination. Upci "holiness standards" all begin with Wesley. Besides, "holiness standards" won't save you; we're saved by faith and not by works. God's sacrifice at calvary fulfils the law's requirement for blood sacrifice that was practiced in Judaism. The law no longer has any bearing and it doesn't even apply to gentiles in the church. God's salvation supersedes UPCI's goofy standards, such as watching t.v. or playing baseball, which aren't even considered sin. Telling kids that they're not allowed to participate in extracurricular activities at school is UPCI'S way to segregate and control its members in efforts to generate revenue for their pastors and board members. It's all nonsense and apostasy.
Y’all make major points and I agree with your comments:::That’s why some UPC churches are breaking away from the UPCI organizational legalism of rules that has nothing to do with salvation/it’s a personal walk with you and Jesus only with Holy Spirit guide / not you +Jesus +Pastor+rules /we been set free to do GOD’s will not man’s...Especially if UPCI is changing the rules as they go...Go figure/so many stipulations... it’s sad cause UPCI has so much to offer as a body of believers
Amen
📖 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
📖 Genesis 1:26 And *God said, *LET *US make man in *OUR image, after *OUR likeness...27 So *God created man in *his own image, in the image of *God created he him; male and female created he them.
📖 Genesis 3:22 And the *Lord *God said, Behold, the man is become as one of *US, to know good and evil:
📖 Genesis 11:5-8 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the *Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, *LET *US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the *Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
📖 Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the *Lord, saying, Whom shall *I send, and who will go for *US? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
📖 Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
📖 John 1-3; 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
📖 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
📖 Psalm 110 The > Lord said unto my Lord Sit thou at my right hand < , until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
📖 Romans 8:34... It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
📖 Ephesians 1:20 Which he (God) wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
📖 Hebrews 1:3;13 God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. . .But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
📖 Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
📖 Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
📖 Acts 7:55-56; 59 But he (Stephan), being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and *saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God...And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
📖 Revelation 5:1;5-7 And I (John) *saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals...behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain...he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
📖 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
I'd like to know how do you explain these verses? Thank you.
Yahweh is our God Yahweh is one Jesus Amen
Who is the Holy Spirit going to hear from in John 16:13? Why are there two witnesses if there’s just one witness John 8:17? Why has no one ever seen the physical form of the Father (John 5:37), who is “us” is Genesis 1, who is “us” in Isaiah 41:21-23, who are the Spirit and the Lord sending in Isaiah 48:16 and why was the one whom their sending there from the beginning? Who is “them both” in Zechariah 6:13?
Basically when you read John 17:5 it doesn’t say what it says it means something totally different if you only add all the oneness theology into the scriptures 🤔🤔🤔
The biggest issue here is using the OT to interpret the NT and trying to squeeze that into how God has revealed himself further in the New Testament. You cannot read the Bible and come out as oneness without It making Gods revelation of Himself incoherent.
God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
If you can send me it will be very helpful for me.thank you
John 1:14
I'm Trinitarian and when I listen to Oneness explanations, it sounds just like the Trinity. Both sides agree with everything, One God, Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God, all eternal.
What's the problem people??
Stop fighting! Ha ha
The only differences I'm seeing is just the terminology. Oneness don't like the words "Persons" in the Godhead because it sounds like three Gods. Or the word "Triune" etc..
When I describe the IDENTITY of God I'm no longer using those terms because it can cause division.
But I do believe Father Son and HS are the same God just like both sides do.
@WALDO Yes amen brother 1John 4:3 Referring to Jesus Christ PREEXISTING PERSONALITY came in the flesh.
@Carlos&fams4 Cristo, the main difference between the two is VERY STARK. Oneness teach that God manifests Himself in either the Father, the son or the Holy Spirit- one at a time. In other words all three persons do not co-exist, only one can be manifested at any one time. Trinity doctrine teaches that the three persons are eternally co-existent- always existing at the same time. When it comes to Jesus the man, Oneness seem to dissect the diety Jesus and the man Jesus.
Key Scriptures to consider:
1 John 5:7 There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (The Word is one of the three).
John 1:14 The Word BECAME flesh (It is not the Father or the Holy Ghost who came as a man but the Word did). The Word is not to be confused as the Father or the Spirit but He is the One who has the glory as of the only begotten of the Father.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. [Remember, it is the Word became and who has come in the flesh, that is, the Word and not the Father or the Holy Ghost].
Genesis 1:26a And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness ... To whom is God speaking? Is it to the other two of the three that are one? If He exists only as One at any given time, why would He need to speak to the plural first person.
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
[Who does the Oneness say is this Voice from heaven? Is it the Father? From a Oneness perspective it cannot be as that would mean the Father and Son are co-existing]
@@justesaying1229 Yes thank you for sharing. Also for Oneness theology it's ALL the Father only huh. They interpret the Son of God incarnate as the Father incarnated. For them the Son was never preexisting, only in the mind of God was he preexisting.
So then they deny the Son! "The spirit of the antichrist denies that the Son came in the flesh" 1John 4:3 AMEN! Glory to Jesus 🙌
Oneness Pentecostals teach the ancient heresy of Modalism. The idea that God takes on or enters different 'modes or masks'. It is error.
Revelation 3:21
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit.
The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe.
Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.
10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness.
11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU.
Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another.
1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD.
1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST.
In the exact same way, Jesus said,...
Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE.
Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word;
21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU.
18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth.
In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne.
Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Trinity isn’t a good explanation of theFather, Son and Holy Spirit. Look at these references to the Holy Spirit. These are from the kjv.
Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, the Spirit, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Spirit of the Lord , Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the living God, Spirit of our God, Spirit of your Father, holy Spirit of God, Spirit which is of God, Spirit of His Son, his Holy Spirit, My Spirit, His Spirit, the Lord is that Spirit, Spirit of grace, holy Spirit of promise, Spirit of adoption, Spirit of life in Christ, Spirit of life from God, the Spirit itself.
The way the Spirit is described in the scripture as being "of God" and "of His Son" and being "His Spirit", it doesn't sound like a third person. I don't think the Spirit is a third person. I think it is what God is. Just as you and I are human beings, the Father and Son are Holy Spirit.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit.
God the Father became his own Son
Confused!!!
@@justesaying1229 God is never confused. The trinity is confusion
I think it should be-- what the Bible says about Jesus Christ.---NOT what the UPCI says about Jesus Christ. Jesus is NOT the Father--because Jesus HAS a Father.1 Corinthians says 11:3 says God is OVER Christ in authority.
You are right in part, but what you should consider is, who Jesus is.
He is both GOD and man.
Spirit and Flesh
As GOD creator as Flesh created.
He did have a father and that is the Holy Spirit according to Luke 1:31&35
His father was Spirit (GOD) and his Mother was flesh (Mary)
Also we see in scripture where Philip is talking to Jesus in (John 14: 8-18 ) and says show us the father and Jesus says he that has seen me has seen the father.
We see in Colossians 2:9 where is says, for in him dwelleth ALL the Fullness of the Godhead bodily.
So we can see that the father dwells in the man Christ Jesus and we can say he is the father.
1 timothy 3:16. God was manifest in the flesh.
God was made visible in human flesh.
So he was father incarnate, but in the flesh, Jesus was able to say God was his father.
Jesus is not God's Son in the sense of human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God's Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, "The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."
During His trial before the Jewish leaders, the High Priest demanded of Jesus, " I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God" (Matthew 26:63). "Yes, it is as you say; Jesus replied. `But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven" (Matthew 26:64). The Jewish leaders responded by accusing Jesus of blasphemy (Matthew 26:65-66). Later before Pontius Pilate, " The Jewish insisted, We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God" (John 19:7). Why would His claiming to be the Son of God considered and be worth of a death sentence? The Jewish leaders understood exactly what Jesus meant by the phrase "Son of God." To be the Son of God is "of God." The claim to be of the same nature as God--to in fact be God--was blasphemy to the Jewish leaders; therefore, they demanded Jesus' death, in keeping with Leviticus 24:15. Hebrew 1:3 expresses this very clearly, "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being."
Another example can be found in John 17:12 where Judas is described as the "son of perdition." John 6:71 tells us that Judas was the son of Simon. What does John 17:12 mean by describing Judas as the "son of perdition"? The word perdition means "destruction, ruin, waste." Judas was not the literal son of "ruin, destruction, and waste," but those things where the identity of Judas' life. Judas was a manifestation of perdition. In this same way, Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1 14).
What a shame these ministers are relating to the old testament for their proof that God is singular . Yet in Genesis 's God proclaimed let US make man in OUR image . This proof positive there where more than one that represent God .Is it so hard to believe that God could be ONE and yet be three . Known as ONE because God says it is so . Who are we to rebuke what God want for his creation . .
THE GREEK WORD ...KAI...CAN BE TRANSLATED AND OR EVEN. SO IN JOHN 17.3 IT CAN BE THERE IS ONE GOD THE FATHER ...EVEN..THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
You must not know you're sinning
WHO WAS RULING HEAVEN WHEN THE LORD JESUS WAS A BABY ?
Jesus is omnipresent
As the son Jesus is God
Jesus is the Father, Son and holy spirit
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Perplexed that the trinity doctrine does not work and also the oneness IMHO against the whole of scripture having tested both for validity. Is it possible that the adversary has blinded our eyes in the matter of true godhead doctrine that only in these end times will be wrested from him (the adversary)? I believe we are currently bamboozled and wrong doctrine to either side of the ditch.
So grateful for your presentation and resources provided as I continue to explore Him.
Argh my brother; I hope I'm not a lost cause in these matters!
I've never been trinitarian nor fully oneness, but my 6 years of bible college was oneness, and 3 of the 6 churches I'm involved in are oneness, I am quire more offended by the trinitarian doctrine than the oneness because they habitually use non-biblical terms to describe God as fact out if hand. Trinity and Oneness are unproven hypotheses. Note that neither sect can convince the other and convert them to their fold en-mass, and neither can point to where the early apostles laid the doctrine plainly and bare for us to see and be sure.* Admit it is for us now a mystery and the matter of determining the godhead can be reexamined in our day and times. The matter is not fully settled, we have not come to end times unity/oneness of faith. (Ephesians 4:13 and other sections in the Pauline letters)
If you in this subscribed group are interested in my put in the matter I will see to making a comprehensive but succinct article on my experience and doctrine stance that lies between this disruptive to unity stalemate of T vs O. I'm kinda the middle, I believe Apostle Paul knew the Godhead well but did not tell us, the HS is saying it is right before us and the adversary blurrs it to kill conquer and destroy; at all costs he must not have us fully in Christ displaying full love and unity for then immediately comes the bride and end for him.
Loving you deeply all my wonderful brothers and sisters!
@@LarzGustafsson and I was 4th generation Apostolic and by Gods grace and His word I am part of the Church of God, a trinitarian. Oneness has to omit a ton of scriptures and assume and insert so much opinion. Think about this, the entire world of Christendom believes in One God that makes himself known to us as Father, Son and Spirit. Who rejects the triune nature of God? Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. I like what Paul said to Corinth, The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ AND the love of God AND the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all! 2 Cor 13:14
Look into the Didache, its a church document that dates back probably around 70 or 80 AD and it speaks of a baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit, so it wasnt 325 AD council of NIcea, this was early on as Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit....now if the Oneness people are correct according to their doctrine they would be the ONLY ones correct. We have a huge problem, we have hundreds and hundreds of years with no trace of their baptism or people speaking in tongues until about 1920 before men started raising questions and split the church. Hebrew and Greek scholars, all of Christianity, all denominations, all accept the triune nature of God and understand that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh but within harmony of the entire bible.
@@sayetauaupee6482 non biblical terms like 'rapture'? we know that word doesn't exist in the text but we use it to speak of a teaching within the Bible. I was 4th generation Apostolic and by Gods grace and His word I am part of the Church of God, a trinitarian. Oneness has to omit a ton of scriptures and assume and insert so much opinion. Think about this, the entire world of Christendom believes in One God that makes himself known to us as Father, Son and Spirit. Who rejects the triune nature of God? Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. I like what Paul said to Corinth, The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ AND the love of God AND the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all! 2 Cor 13:14
Look into the Didache, its a church document that dates back probably around 70 or 80 AD and it speaks of a baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit, so it wasn't 325 AD council of Nicaea, this was early on as Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit....now if the Oneness people are correct according to their doctrine they would be the ONLY ones correct. We have a huge problem, we have hundreds and hundreds of years with no trace of their baptism or people speaking in tongues until about 1920 before men started raising questions and split the church. Hebrew and Greek scholars, all of Christianity, all denominations, all accept the triune nature of God and understand that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh but within harmony of the entire bible.
I like wheat Larz had to say thanks.
Here's a link to a 40 years ago sermon by a oneness pastor and the last 2/3's of it not really being to debunk trinity or oneness does just that. I'm really interested in seeing a paragraph statement on the godhead that stands up to all critical exploration. I haven't seen one.
@@sayetauaupee6482 Have you written anything to bring harmony between Trinitarians and Oneness?
In Genesis the Bible says, “Let US make man in OUR image.” In Revelation 6:16-17 the Bible says, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of THEIR wrath has come…” In Luke 23:46 the Bible says, “Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into YOUR hands I commit my spirit.” Is Jesus talking to Himself here? In John 16:28 Jesus says, “I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” Notice Jesus did not say, “I left heaven and became the son, and now I am going back to heaven to become the Father again. In John 16:38 Jesus says, “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.” This verse is saying Jesus has His own will and the Father has His. Yes, they don’t disagree, of course, but still this verse speaks of two wills. In John 14:31 Jesus says, “…but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me.” In John 5:19 Jesus says, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.” In John 1:1 the Bible says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word was God.” If Oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God.” John 6:44 says, “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” Again, if oneness was true, shouldn’t this verse say, “No one can come to me, unless I draw him.” In John 10:15, Jesus says, “…even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.” Matthew 26:29 says, “And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” Read for yourself; does this sound like oneness, or is Jesus having conversations with the Father within the triune God-head?
7:06 - this is Christology is questionable (the doctrine of Christ). Please explain Isaiah 9:6.
If you believe that there is two or three Gods you are more than a devil because the devil believe that there is one God and tremble.Read James 2:19
Yes one God is the father one God is the son Jesus and one God the Holy spirit
Brethren, Jesus was God in flesh, Jesus was the indwelling Spirit of God .Jesus Christ is the one God manifested in the flesh
Sam Shamoun insulted Brother David Bernard by calling him a son of the devil. I wish David would debate him just to put to shame Sam's statements like Jesus is schizophrenic, because somebody needs to shut up those blasphemous lies.
FULLY GOD...AND... FULLY HUMAN...MAKES MOST SENSE.
Certainly the TRINITY doctrine does not square with either The Holy Bible, with logic, or with math; and just as certainly, neither does your ONENESS doctrine.
1. To whom was Jesus praying every time he prayed?
2. How do you explain to the word "AND" when Jesus spoke simultaneously of himself and his father?
3. What kind of "glory" (presence) did Jesus have with his father "since before the world was"?
@Tyler B #2 NOP
@Tyler B #2 Thomas NO refers to Jesus as his God in John 20:28.
if Jesus Chriest was with God and his name was word in John's gospel how is he created
Here in Northeast India , ( Mizoram) the believer of Oneness (UPCI) is insulted by other Christian...I dont know the reason
That's because most churches believe in the trinity , we don't.
Also we have rules that a lot say it's the church rules but no, we get rules from the bible.
Cos its heresy
For the last 2,000 years, Orthodox Christianity has always been Trinitarian. Much like Mormonism, they look and sound the same, but they aren’t.
Amen ! The trinitarians are hypocrites and refuse to bend theirs knees to the true Jesus and true God and Father of the bible. Jesus is the true God (Father) and eternal life 1John5:20
They can only deceive people who blindly follow or do not read their bibles without presuppositions. They are saying Jesus was not talking to His Father, but just “talking” so humans could hear Him? Seriously people think scripturally for yourself as the Holy Spirit reveals the truth.
In the Old Testament many times God revealed Himself as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God said let Us create man in OUR image. We were not created in the image of angels, but God. So simple. David himself said my Lord said to the Lord, and both Jesus repeated him, and Luke in Acts when Peter preached repeated him.
Jesus is at the right hand of the Father is true not just a metaphor, according to all of scripture rightly divided.
If you do not acknowledge Jesus as God and the Son of God, not just the son of man, you cannot be saved according to the New Testament. It is a scary thing to REJECT Jesus from being God or the Son of God who Revelation tells us will be on the throne forever.
Is God almighty? If He is almighty, how can he die?
God never Died,when Jusus died,It was his humanity,The man Who died.Jesus commends His Spirit To the Father and gives up the Ghost.It was the man Christ Jesus who died.Oneness pentecostles never teaches that God died.
We must make the distinctions clear.
Jesus was hungry ,bod God
Jesus grew in wisdom
The Father needs no wisdom or knowlege becauseHe has no limit of knowledge and wisdom.
Jesus was asleep in the boat
The father never sleeps nor slumbers.
The distinctions of the Godhead in Jesus are all between the Diety and humaiity of Christ.
He was fully God and fully human.
@@kevincook8268 How about that Jesus is not the Father, but just God's son? Matt 3:17 - And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Did Jesus ever said that he was the Father? In Joh 14:9 Jesus said "He who has seen Me has seen the Father" What did Jesus mean by this? Did Jesus say that he was the Father. NO!!! All that Jesus meant was in Joh 12:45 "And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." Because Jesus knew that nobody could see the Father. Exo 33:20 - But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.”
Now if you are saying that Jesus was the Father, then you are saying that all people are the Father. Because Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. (Kol 1:15.) Who else is in the image of the Father? All people are. Gen 1:26 - Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
Now I have a question for you: Why would you say that your religion is the true religion?
@@hannessteyn2402 because Jesus Christ, the Almighty living God, is my friend.
@@katelynschultz4191 but Jesus is not almighty. If he was almighty, then he can not die. If Jesus can not die, then what did he sacrificed? Jesus never referred to himself as almighty or that he is the Father. If you read the bible, you will see that Jesus was send. (Joh 3:16) He was given all authority. (Matt 28:18) Jesus has a Father and he has a God. (Joh 20:17) Jesus was given a higher position en he was given a name above everyone else. (Phil 2:9,10) Jesus was send to do the will of his Father. (Joh 4:34) Jesus was the first born of the creation. (Col 1:15) Jesus said that his Father is greater than himself. (Joh 14:28) The Father is the head of Jesus. (1 Cor 11:3) All things have been subjected to Jesus, but Jesus is subjected to his Father. ( 1 Cor 15:27,28) People has seen Jesus, but nobody has seen God. (Joh 1:18) Jesus is the only-begotten son. The almighty Father can not be begotten. (Joh 1:14) Although Jesus created everything, he is not the creator. God used Jesus to create everything (Heb 1:2)
It is very clear to me that Jesus is not God the Father or equal to the Father.
I believe that Jesus also exists as the Holy Spirit of YHWH. I am just happy to practice that belief outside of the Pentecostal movement.
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” -John 8:58
"Modalistic Monarchianism (also known as modalism or Oneness Christology) is a Christian theology that upholds the oneness of God as well as the deity of Jesus Christ. It is a form of Monarchianism and as such stands in contrast with Trinitarianism. Modalistic Monarchianism considers God to be one while working through the different "modes" or "manifestations" of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
@@LUPPER. God is a spirit. Jesus said to worship in Spirit & truth. YHWH was God in flesh through Jesus. The flesh was subservient to His own Spirit.
GOD to be One working through the different modes of Father Son & Holy Ghost DOES NOT MAKE SENSE...GOD +Father +Son +Holy Ghost +=It appears that’s Four not Three... it should be Father (GOD) working through The Son and Holy Ghost////Think about it ?
@@maryhelencampos9964 God is the word, the word is Christ. God is a spirit Only God is Holy. Thus, that equates God as the Holy Spirit. Therefore, God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit are the same person manifested in three different, but equal, forms.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14
I would recommend that you read all of John 5 and all of John 10. The Son is distinct from the Father even the demons recognized this. Checkout Anthony Rogers and Dr. Edward Dalcour for me indepth info on the Trinity. Oneness theology is in error on many doctrines. If you deny the son you don't have the father those that affirm the son has the father. You cannot escape the prepositions.
Acts 7:55 Jesus is standing at the right hand of God.
If Jesus and God are one, therefore it is wrong that Jesus is Standing at the right hand of God as per ACTS 7:55
Because that is not literally speaking is spiritually symbolic , it’s showing his power because that’s we understand that right hand in our language means power and authority
@@carolineadams4037 You sound confused.
@@carolineadams4037 …That is what the Sanhedrin used to condemn Jesus Christ to death.
Stephen, the first martyr said Jesus had power and authority. The Jews knew what he was talking about and stoned him to death.
The Trinity or Tri-unity of God is the biblical revelation that is revealed in the holy scripture. The oneness teaching always have to rationalize verses in the Bible to try to make their point..It is tons of verses that support evidence of the Holy Trinity....John 17 Jesus is clearly praying 🙏 to God the Father...because thats what the text says....also in the gospel of John Jesus talks about the Holy Spirit coming after he leaves...who proceeds from the Father and the Son.....I am sharing this because I use to believe in the oneness teaching yrs ago until someone showed me a simple truth...just accept the Word for what it is saying, don't try to add to it to prove your point..and that's exactly what the oneness teaching does..Question...who is talking to God in the book of Hebrews 10:5-9?
1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
24.Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
25.For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26.The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.
27.For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
28.Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Amen
N’komon you went wrong when you took teaching from someone who didn’t have the revelation. Matt 28:19 & Acts 2:38 is quick and simplifies any identify crisis people may have.
There is no Trinity in the Bible but only one God
Deut 6:4
1 Timo 3:16
God bless you
Let Us make Man In Our Image /exactly what Image is that? If you look into the mirror you see your image One person. Could it be possible The Father is the Soul /The Son is the Body/The Holy Ghost is the Spirit...body soul & spirit that creates one human being .I guess that’s why the Godhead is a mystery...just dialoguing
The title is misleading because all oneness people do not think Jesus is Yahweh.
The only problem is the the church historically rejected reading scriptures in this manner.
Except your theology is fundamentally flawed.
Cov-19 has been a blessing in some ways
..wearing a mask makes it better...to familys tgat lost love ones sorry to hear that...
Did Jesus Christ the Son of God have a God and Father?
Yes 👍🏻