@@fhhu3167 Second trombonist is Rita Payés. For more from this group look at the TH-cam channel for Joan Chamorro (bass player), he's the founder and musical director of Sant Andreu Jazz Band
@@fhhu3167 Anastasia was smooth and entertaining. But a lot of her material fitted sweetly in because it was using pre-composed music we heard from other band members later. Rita, though, always delivers novelty. Its like a compulsion. Even playing her old popular pieces both instruments, voice and trombone, get new life pumped into them.
Joan Chamorro often makes faces when he's playing bass but it's not very noticeable when he's play sax. He has given us a lot of outstanding musicians.
Watching Joan respond to his students and former students is quite a pastime of mine. In fact, when talking about the philosophy of his approach to music education he is clear he cannot promise future careers in music, but what he does seek is their immediate delight in it, in having it in their lives. Watching his students approval of each other is my other pastime. They truly appreciate the achievements of each other, and that's why I haunt these youtube videos rather than spotify. (Minor League 2018)
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions This might be a fun one to tackle. Rita at 16 with her friend La Blanco in the garden (campsite actually) and with a plastic trombone.... th-cam.com/video/VVNOzyr0rCc/w-d-xo.html It just occurs to me watching the speed of that slide, that a low mass plastic slide on a metal instrument may have some real articulation advantages. Nickel/silver plated plastic might even restore all the acoustic properties. (Kuehnl and Hoyer I want 10%).
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions I'm a huge fan of Marti Serra, a jazz arranger, composer and musician of great originality. Here's aerophonist, Xavi Lozano playing a bedstead. th-cam.com/video/2sqnP-wgHPI/w-d-xo.html Sadly, there is no video of the astonishing, possibly non-transcribable. version of "Strange Fruit", again with Rita Payes. Terrifying.
Joan Chamorro, aside from his very very many genius attributes, has a very mobile face. He snarls, he rolls his eyes, he laughs---all the while keeping the music moving. playing, conducting, whatever. 3 cheers!
He also stamps his feet (Count Bubba) and imitates a jet plane when everything is cruising perfectly (Rita Payes Joel Frahm Do nothing 'til you hear from me.) Its all a great reminder to have fun. Watching Rita with the WDR, its all a bit serious. She breaks ranks and injects delighted reactions... because that's what it is all for. Try No Home No, a composition of hers for the occasion.
Rob. Lenon and McCartney flamenco style and Rita launches a glittering new melody into its midst. And it just... grooves. th-cam.com/video/NxNWrk5yhJs/w-d-xo.html
It's a normal trill, but as the trombone doesn't have valves it is achieved like an extremely quick lip flexibility exercise. (It's actually more to do with tongue level, but they're called lip trills!)
The iReal Pro app had it as a Gb-7 chord to B7, hence the Bbb, but I guess it would make more sense if it was F#-7 to B7 and written as an A. That one went under the radar!!
At this time (age 21) Rita has played trombone for 70% of her life. Myself, I can't hear "pinched" at all. She plays into a large cup towards the top, which gives her a bigger range than many, which complements her wide vocal range rather nicely.
@@fliprim It sounds like when you use pressure to reach higher notes, it's sounds as if she can't fill the mouthpiece properly at low ranges (embouchure works at high range, not at low), it's audible here at the f and f# th-cam.com/video/Hg6Aey80bVI/w-d-xo.html, and the low db here, th-cam.com/video/Hg6Aey80bVI/w-d-xo.html, the way she ends the note almost with the tongue. It sounds ok in her high range. I really like her playing otherwise. From another video: I think this one is really pinched all over, it just sounds bad to me: th-cam.com/video/9kNMVafkhuk/w-d-xo.html
@@Persillebalzm Heh! I think that last performance is one she hated doing most, with a still nursing infant over in Germany and given a piece she would never choose for herself. Her own stuff went well by comparison. Rita's pretty chill most times letting faults pass with a little cry of annoyance. Here it seems she was stressed. I think you have embouchure entirely wrong, but then again I think most of the theoreticians have it wrong also. (The wiki article is rather good covering these conflicting theories). I've always supported the idea that lip length within the aperture and lip tension constrain lip/system resonance. Rita particularly demonstrates how this works as she centres on an 2/3 upper cord of the aperture pushing the moutpiece physically down in the upper register, so higher in the aperture, giving a physically shorter lip length and higher lip tension. The lower register sound is more a product of the trombone structure and its resonances. I think you don't like the Kuhnl & Hoyer Bart van Lier typical lower register sounds.
I think a lot of the time girls like this get the attention more because they ARE girls less because of the quality of there playing. I could be wrong but I think gender plays a role in the background
Surely this is just the blandest noodling imaginable. Undynamic. Harmonically dull, and with that soft, characterless sound that tiny peashooter trombones always bleat out. There’s no doubt they are very good players but this is so anaemic.
It's particularly fun to see the musicians enjoy each other's stuff so much.
Mutual respect and fun and always evident in the St Andreu videos I've seen!
0:35 , that was a sick Eternal Triangle lick
YES THATS WHERE IT WAS FROM
Elliot mason and nick
Yeahhh!!
Is this not a quote from Estrada do Sol? It sounds just like "Quero que voce (etc.)"
This solo is a masterclass
Which one?!
Damn that uigh b flat felt like it was no effort to her at all. Real amazing style
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions both, i prefer the second one as sje works more with the cromatic scale
@@fhhu3167 Second trombonist is Rita Payés. For more from this group look at the TH-cam channel for Joan Chamorro (bass player), he's the founder and musical director of Sant Andreu Jazz Band
@@fhhu3167 Anastasia was smooth and entertaining. But a lot of her material fitted sweetly in because it was using pre-composed music we heard from other band members later. Rita, though, always delivers novelty. Its like a compulsion. Even playing her old popular pieces both instruments, voice and trombone, get new life pumped into them.
The bass player is a teacher of the soloist.
Yes, he's doing a remarkable job!
Rita is just a gem.
Rita Payes! She is the real deal. And she sings, too!
Joan Chamorro often makes faces when he's playing bass but it's not very noticeable when he's play sax. He has given us a lot of outstanding musicians.
yes! more rita !
That baby developed in a surround sound chamber of Jazz music me oh my
Wow! Great clear ideas. Beautifully done.
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Gotta post original video sources!
yeah
Yes, I forgot to do that. I'll add it asap. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
Holy shit so jazzy, so lovely.
Watching Joan respond to his students and former students is quite a pastime of mine. In fact, when talking about the philosophy of his approach to music education he is clear he cannot promise future careers in music, but what he does seek is their immediate delight in it, in having it in their lives.
Watching his students approval of each other is my other pastime. They truly appreciate the achievements of each other, and that's why I haunt these youtube videos rather than spotify. (Minor League 2018)
Yeah, you really get the impression he's cultivated an encouraging and nurturing environment.
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions This might be a fun one to tackle. Rita at 16 with her friend La Blanco in the garden (campsite actually) and with a plastic trombone....
th-cam.com/video/VVNOzyr0rCc/w-d-xo.html
It just occurs to me watching the speed of that slide, that a low mass plastic slide on a metal instrument may have some real articulation advantages. Nickel/silver plated plastic might even restore all the acoustic properties. (Kuehnl and Hoyer I want 10%).
@@fliprim Thanks for this. I'm always trawling YT for ideas and these videos have some potential. Just gotta think of a snappy title...!
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions I'm a huge fan of Marti Serra, a jazz arranger, composer and musician of great originality. Here's aerophonist, Xavi Lozano playing a bedstead.
th-cam.com/video/2sqnP-wgHPI/w-d-xo.html
Sadly, there is no video of the astonishing, possibly non-transcribable. version of "Strange Fruit", again with Rita Payes. Terrifying.
I'm in love
so many quotes!
Love this.
Man's just vibing out
Very smooth and coool solo!
Tone is crazy
Lovely smooth playing
Lovely vibe
great!! my kinda solo
Joan Chamorro always looks like he's getting a buzz from life, no matters what he's doing. Be more like Joan 👍
You're right. He's got a great thing going there with the Sant Andreu Jazz Band.
Joan Chamorro, aside from his very very many genius attributes, has a very mobile face. He snarls, he rolls his eyes, he laughs---all the while keeping the music moving. playing, conducting, whatever. 3 cheers!
He also stamps his feet (Count Bubba) and imitates a jet plane when everything is cruising perfectly (Rita Payes Joel Frahm Do nothing 'til you hear from me.)
Its all a great reminder to have fun. Watching Rita with the WDR, its all a bit serious. She breaks ranks and injects delighted reactions... because that's what it is all for. Try No Home No, a composition of hers for the occasion.
Who are the musicians? Beautiful solos by each of them.
Anastasia Ivanova and Rita Payes on the trombones. Joan Chamoro on the bass
I put the soloists' TH-cam channels at the end of the video to click on.
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions thanks!
Excelente trabalho parabéns
I think I'm in love....
Those ladies sure sound good on the trombone !
Very well done!
Thank you! I'm so glad people are liking them!
great stuff
This tone is smooth like butt
Butter??!
I'm thinking the bass player may have taught them as students in his jazz improv class and is just showing his pride in their creative playing.
Yes, he's called Joan Chamorra and he runs the Saint Andreu Jazz Band. He's doing a fantastic job and is rightly proud of his protoges!
Rob. Lenon and McCartney flamenco style and Rita launches a glittering new melody into its midst. And it just... grooves.
th-cam.com/video/NxNWrk5yhJs/w-d-xo.html
Nice! Thanks for the heads up.
What is "lip trill" ?
It's a normal trill, but as the trombone doesn't have valves it is achieved like an extremely quick lip flexibility exercise. (It's actually more to do with tongue level, but they're called lip trills!)
@@RobEgertonJazzTranscriptions thanks ! Same on trumpet for notes with the same fingering, then.
Just curious, why the double flat in the third measure instead of an a natural?
The iReal Pro app had it as a Gb-7 chord to B7, hence the Bbb, but I guess it would make more sense if it was F#-7 to B7 and written as an A.
That one went under the radar!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Truly amazing solos, mad respect to the pregnant woman 🫡
Rita Payes
wow
No rita payes is the one wearing black
But I’m wondering who’s the one wearing white
It's Russian singer/trombonist Anastasia Ivanova. She has a YT channel.
Mmmm mmm
I find Payes has sort of a pinched sound, almost like many new players have. It's especially audible in the lower register.
At this time (age 21) Rita has played trombone for 70% of her life. Myself, I can't hear "pinched" at all. She plays into a large cup towards the top, which gives her a bigger range than many, which complements her wide vocal range rather nicely.
@@fliprim It sounds like when you use pressure to reach higher notes, it's sounds as if she can't fill the mouthpiece properly at low ranges (embouchure works at high range, not at low), it's audible here at the f and f# th-cam.com/video/Hg6Aey80bVI/w-d-xo.html, and the low db here, th-cam.com/video/Hg6Aey80bVI/w-d-xo.html, the way she ends the note almost with the tongue. It sounds ok in her high range. I really like her playing otherwise. From another video: I think this one is really pinched all over, it just sounds bad to me: th-cam.com/video/9kNMVafkhuk/w-d-xo.html
@@Persillebalzm Heh! I think that last performance is one she hated doing most, with a still nursing infant over in Germany and given a piece she would never choose for herself. Her own stuff went well by comparison. Rita's pretty chill most times letting faults pass with a little cry of annoyance. Here it seems she was stressed.
I think you have embouchure entirely wrong, but then again I think most of the theoreticians have it wrong also. (The wiki article is rather good covering these conflicting theories). I've always supported the idea that lip length within the aperture and lip tension constrain lip/system resonance. Rita particularly demonstrates how this works as she centres on an 2/3 upper cord of the aperture pushing the moutpiece physically down in the upper register, so higher in the aperture, giving a physically shorter lip length and higher lip tension. The lower register sound is more a product of the trombone structure and its resonances. I think you don't like the Kuhnl & Hoyer Bart van Lier typical lower register sounds.
Each to their own!
jajajaja
Average at best… I’ve seen tons of others to this just as well if not better
links ?
Where do I start there’s just so many….
@@jonburton1935 like.... ?
Each to their own!
I think a lot of the time girls like this get the attention more because they ARE girls less because of the quality of there playing. I could be wrong but I think gender plays a role in the background
Surely this is just the blandest noodling imaginable. Undynamic. Harmonically dull, and with that soft, characterless sound that tiny peashooter trombones always bleat out. There’s no doubt they are very good players but this is so anaemic.
Most assuredly it is not….
Could you post a demonstration of what and how they should have played ? No doubt it will be very enlightening for every of us. We can't wait...