What It's Like to be a Nomad at 60 | Pop-Up Magazine
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- At 60, Jo Lynn Decker found herself trapped in a failing marriage and cramped apartment in Idaho. Inspired by TH-cam videos of senior nomads, she left it all behind to live out of a van and start a radical new chapter of her life. Filmmakers Vanessa Carr and Josh Gleason went along for the ride.
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VANESSA CARR has worked as a director of photography for a decade, filming documentaries and series for PBS, HBO, Disney+, Showtime, FX, and others. She holds a master’s in journalism from UC Berkeley. Nomads is her first feature documentary as a director.
JOSH GLEASON is a documentary filmmaker whose work has been screened at festivals across the country and featured in The Atlantic. He’s directed and produced programs for PBS, including episodes of American Experience and Finding Your Roots.
CREDITS
NOMADS
By Vanessa Carr and Josh Gleason
Original Music by Minna Choi
FOR POP-UP MAGAZINE
Story Producer
Haley Howle
Video Editors
John Woo
Rachel Shuman
Music Director
Minna Choi
Audio Mixer
Albert Schatz
Additional Production
Elise Craig
FOR VANESSA CARR AND JOSH GLEASON
Directed and Produced by
Vanessa Carr
Josh Gleason
Cinematographer
Vanessa Carr
Sound Recordist
Josh Gleason
Assistant Editor
Jennifer Stamps
Special Thanks
Phyllis Bickford
Big Sky Documentary Film Festival
California Film Institute
Suanne Carlson
KC Colter
Joni Cooper
Jo Lynn Decker
Doreane Downing
Joanne Feinberg
Allecia Gordon
Homes on Wheels Alliance
Louise Levy
Lynn Neidorf
Bob Wells
Additional footage courtesy of Bob Wells, Cheap RV Living - บันเทิง
I'm 62, and I've lived in my vehicle off and on for 18 years. Meeting people is the most rewarding part for me. Helping people is also rewarding. I spent 765 dollars yesterday helping a fellow nomad and his wife buy groceries, gas for their RV, and gas for their generator. In my apartment, I could never afford to do that. So now that I don't pay rent,, I help people, and I find that helping others as a nomad has made the road more like home to me.
Jolynn, Congratulations on moving out of despair. Life is still interesting at 60.
The nomadic lifestyle actually makes you physically and mentally stronger - it constantly builds your life skills. The caravan and connecting w/other nomads, especially those your age, is safer and more fun.
I'm nearly 60....been 3 full years in a converted minivan.....i love it.....especially during the last year with all that has been happening.
That worked out for you, buddy! Social distancing...put 'er in DRIVE.
JoLynn I’m glad you have more options.
Nomads that helped her....YOU ARE WONDERFUL (just in case nobody told you that today).
Sooo agree
Yes nomads , great people . Bob too !
The US is a fantastic place for this kind of lifestyle. So much space, variety of terrain and freedom to boondock.
Bob Wells is, in my mind, a real hero. He is so honest, helpful, and motivating. His videos inspired my van life journey. I loved this story :)
He has really touched the lives of a lot of people, mine included.
I agree
Bob Wells is a hero! I hadn't even heard of him 2 weeks ago and now he's all over my feed!!
Bob Wells is a nomad legend!
I'm hoping one day this will be my life,trying to work and save money towards my goals
She had the courage to follow through and fulfill her dream .. she figured it out and found a better fulfilling meaning in her path .. thx Bob!
Yeah, except no, she didn’t. She found out fairly quickly that living out of a mini-van in the desert is well...misery, and went back to living like a human being.
What video did you watch? If you would've watched the whole video you would have seen she said it is a lot harder than she thought, and she didn't like it, she went back and lived with her friend in a "house".
@@jazzis4u1 The fact that living a traveling life to you is "less than human" I view your opinion as insignificant.
🥰👌it's more about the journey than the end result for me ....we dont know where we will end up
Sorry, you are not worthless. You are amazing. Living your dreams. I admire you very much
My heart breaks for anyone that was made to feel less than at a young age. It’s hard to figure out how to move forward especially if you no role models.
Hugs baby , foster homes ! 💖
Pappy always told me that i would never amount to nothing,, so far he's been right
Great video. I actually cried at 63 years old. Lol On August 15, 2020 I started as a nomad in my 2014 Toyota RAV4. It was a choice and something I have been planning the last 3 years. It has given me low debt and remote income on the road.
I would have planned for something bigger to nomad in in 3 years time frame, I wish you well hope you are doing well ... hod bless
So Inspiring .... just turned 65 & planning by becoming a Minimalist... still saving
Thats really encouraging! So how do u like living out of your Rav 4? They should have done a story on you. As I sit here caring for my rapidly failing husband, I am packing my stuff to store, and trying to decide on a vehicle. I would love more success stories. I have watched all the youtubers, and even emailed them. A van is too high to get into and a mini van cant tow what i need. Thinking on a Dodge Durango.
Are you online a lot and if so, what ISP service do you use? Can you be online anywhere that you go without a lot of additional effort and expenditure? Do you have a YTube channel?
@@ArtsyLadyCrafter currently use MiFi with Verizon. Yes I have channel
This is heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time. I am so happy to see that she is free.
Bob Wells= Earth Angel.
Happy trails Jolene, let the adventure run wild!
Thank you bob wells for helping this dear lady. I hope it turns her life around.
Been a Nomadfor 4 years lived in my van for 2 of those years..Bob is awesome, he really cares. This lifestyle is freeing.
I noticed the radio announcement she was listening to after she had decided not to live in the van anymore, which talked about donating her car. I hope she gave it back to Bob so he could help someone else.
Didn’t look like it.
Maybe we shouldn’t be quick to judge other people. Keeping the van means that she is independent and can “up sticks” and move if for any reason she needs to. I wish the lady well. Life can be difficult at times. Hope hers has become easier.
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@@elizdonovan5650 - Wow, what made you think anyone was judging her? People tend to read something, then react according to their own mindset. You might have judged her by wondering if the van had gone back to help more people, but not everyone would think the same way.
@@CanYouRememberWhen Sincere apologies if I misunderstood your original comment. Best wishes.
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That would be nice if she did ....donate it back for someone else. That is if she dosen't need it .
Bob and Sue, still helping people, no matter who.
where is thier channel?
@@sandysay1332 cheaper rv living
@@citypicker4449 ty
@@sandysay1332 also Homes on Wheels Alliance
@@yourekittenme. ty ✌🏼
No one should ever feel that way about themselves! I'm so happy for Jo Lynn. I'm glad she had the courage to leave it all behind. Yes, life can be hard, but she will be so much happier. I'm glad she is with her friend now, healing herself as well as helping her dear friend.
I had done my share of car camping, backpacking, and sleeping in cars over the years being an avid hiker. Getting to destination was fun but the living in my suv got tedious fast because I had to be super organized in such a small place. I spent the last 5 years contemplating and planning for van life but decided not to do it full time or to get a cargo van to convert. I’d continue to drive to places when I desire a getaway but I’d always have my home base to come back to (and indoor plumbing).
Bob Wells strongly recommends a cargo van. That's what I'm going to shoot for. I like the idea of how much money I could save on rent. It will help me build up a better rainy day fund.
I like the home base idea. The problem with home is I get sick of it.
@@valerierogers9609 Hence the allure of getting into a car to drive away (for the time being). When you get road weary, you have a home to come back to.
@@33Jenesis You are right on point!
Cool but all in or not ? i understand i am 66 , don't want brick and morter
t's incredible: You can actually see Jo Lynn look younger as the vid progresses.
You Go Girl!
"she left everything behind including her husband" Lol
Tht got me too😂😂
Why did I bawl throughout this whole video?
I hope I meet nice people like these when I get on the road in a few months. These are the real people. Never thought when I read Steinbeck's Travels with Charley in my youth I would be chomping at the bit to do the same in my 60's. There is peace, solitude, and enrichment for your soul away from the false trappings of our societal norms.
If only we could realize sooner in life that the American dream is an illusion that gives us the false sense that we have accomplished something. In reality all we did was sacrifice precious moments we can never get back while we made someone else rich. They travel and live life to the fullest while we labor away and settle for their scraps.
Don't forget to also give Jack Kerouac's "On the Road" a read as well... Best of luck...
I have been following many Nomads for the past 4 years, including Bob Wells. I am 65 right now. Planning to be on the road in 18 months the longest. I want a travel trailer, to be off grid, NOT going to use the toilet plumbing, going to 'wrap up' the feces, buying a water filter so I can use water from creeks and rivers and store in 5 gal jugs, going solar and a wind turbine, a small pellet burning stove for heat; just a few examples. I plan to hook up with a "Tribe" to learn the ropes and start meeting my 2nd 'family' and friends.
Oh so very true and I also loved Travels with Charley!
I had the pleasure of meeting Bob Wells & Suanne Carlson and they are unbelievably nice people, exactly what you would expect from watching them on Cheap R.V. Living!
Jo Lynn you are a Beautiful soul and don't you forget it!! xoxo
Very inspirational! JoLynn I grew up the same way, Im glad you got out and found your selfworth and your freedom!!
Ditto, but I wasn't foster care.
I'm 62 I'm getting ready to do that in the near real future just preparing my van for comfort
So sad to see so many beaten down slaves to the system. It is heartwarming to see the camaraderie among nomads, whom I hope join someday. Just turned 60 and have to work to maintain health coverage. Would love to see socialized medicine in this land of the free.
Im finally 65 and want to but still hedging..
I say ill be okay..
So you didn't save for retirement? Whose fault is that?
I really don't understand the complaints about lack of healthcare, in the USA, for elderly. There is coverage. You have to register for it, but there is coverage. Get an advocate, (many Dr office have them there, in person, once a month). or help from someone younger, who can help you use the website. Low income, and over certain age, all get coverage.
@@cathycoryell2351 Losers have to whine.
@@Jj-gi2uv Why are you so judgeMENTAL?
Felt very emotional watching this...your a wonderful man Bob love from UK🙏🏽💛
Worn out worker syndrome is real in America. We have to do something about it!
This document is great!!! But this life is way harder than people think I live off the grid but in a house!!!
The video illustrates how so many are attracted to a romanticized image they see on TH-cam, but are unprepared for it on many levels, including physically, mentally, and financially. With enough planning and being realistic about the lifestyle, it can be done.
I am preparing mentally and figuring out logistics. By the time I retire, I will be ready. Have 5 more years.
@@greaterthan5052 I started last year at 63 years old and loving it.
While I agree, I think it's also important to say that nomads come from all walks of life. For some, it's really hard while for others who work on the road with a lot more comfort ... it will not be nearly as hard.
I'm 61 and what she said at the beginning explain how I feel. I did quit smoking but haven't even left town in 2 years. Hope this helps me get some motivation, 61 is not too old for whatever the yet is. I do not know if I cry for me, or for Jo.
You most certainly can do it. Remind yourself if you don't do what you want to do the people who tell you that you can't are the ones who win. It's YOUR decision. Take responsibility for your decisions. If you stay it's your decision. If you go it's your decision. You can be free, or you can be a doormat. What's the worst that can happen? Will you be even more miserable than you are now? Not likely.
Thank you for your thoughtful words. Wow someone cared enough....amazing to me.
@@M.Campbell
@@M.Campbell I agree with you, but I have been a coward most of my life. And being older and a black man scares me more now than 30 years ago... But again I believe you are right... Remember Popeye, "Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained "...
I’m 61 and building out a Ram Promaster and just waiting impatiently for my pension and retirement to kick in! In the
@@siobane5775 you go girl..
She left everything behind, including her husband LOL!
So glad to see Bob Wells and Suanne involved in this! They are amazing. Sure hope Jo Lynn gets to go traveling again.
To really enjoy and thrive during your senior years, give up cigarettes and eat healthier. It makes a huge difference.
I do not smoke anymore but i do understand that sometimes all we have to help us through is a cigarette and whatever is available to eat. Please do not judge
@Hieu TV I know. but it's not always that simple.
Maybe she has as her friend cannot be around smoke and she can clearly see the lung damage she could face.
I bet they never thought of that! What a unique bit of insight you have come up with!!! Have you ever considered becoming a life coach???
As a former smoker I can tell you the least helpful and most motivation sapping thing is to make such suggestions. When a person is ready to quit, they will appreciate help...suggesting a walk, movie, coffee in a book shop with them. Also, don’t judge if they aren’t quite able to stop - it takes many tries before success for some people. Be loving and accepting.
Wow what a way to find community. Out on the open road.
I'm also a nomad! this is a very moving and well done movie!
It sure is! I want to know what happened to these lovely precious ladies!
@@cathyjay2569 watch "Nomadland", they explain.
@@darronsanderson4837 I’m trying! I’m getting a divorce in my 60s, total surprise, and I have no streaming service where I can watch it. I have fire stick so I get TH-cam but not Hulu. It’s making me crazy because I want to see it so badly!
"It's a lot harder then I thought it would be", boy what an understatement. My wife and I have done minivan camping, fun for a short trip but I sure wouldn't want to live like that full time. Even the younger Nomads get tired of it after a bit and get a home base.
You assume quite a bit about others and their lives. How’s that working out for you? That’s harder than I could imagine.
@@graintbaksoola5242, I was commenting what she said at the 6:48 point. Nomads I follow on TH-cam are getting home bases when they can afford it, I don't blame them.
@@notanomad9320 yes they are.. Even ones on the road alot either get a house or a group get land where thet can chill and regroup. A few are on someone else's property like sitters. Or do a job where they camp so they get a chance to be a part of normal business and only sleep there.
A heartwarming story of hope, redemption & love, this is the kind of America we can all be. Pay it Forward, to Pay it back. peace, light & love ~
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH.... THE ONLY VIDEO OUT OF THOUSANDS THAT I HAVE WATCHED THAT SPEAKS TO ME PERSONALLY.....LIKE A BOLT OF ELECTRICITY..TY MANKIND FOR DOING SOMETHING RIGHT AMONGST ALL OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE WRONG
The new lifestyle that requires more MOVEMENT, Restrengthening of muscles gone weak, will save our lives!! In the 'old days' we lived on farms and worked til our last breath. We have gotten soft with technology. We sit, get fat and lose our strength, and get stiff. You can't do that as a Nomad.
Amen
I'm 61 fighting colon cancer out here. I had to change absolutely everything. I juice a gallon a day and make my own cannabis oil. No sugar or processed food. I can't imagine dealing with anymore health issues. Best to take care of yourself Seniors. Protect your mind. Pharmaceutical drugs are destroying us. 😢
We make our own cannabis oil but it's getting hard to find trim anymore for RSO. Everything is so expensive it's hard to stay healthy.
What lovely little story. I can relate to these women. They have more courage than I. Imagined doing this for years, but don't care to alone.
I'm rooting for you jo lynn...
caged bird finally free to explore life and she’s free no regrets
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Hoping to begin my Nomad life soon. Am 66, will probably go camping in my 2020 Honda CRV touring car. But am a live in caregiver for 88 year old gentleman, he doesn't want me to leave. But hate the idea of waiting for him to pass.😣 Don't know how much time I have left. Was ready to go last year but COVID wrecked that
These days you might well have another 25 years left. But he surely doesn't. I guess it is a very personal decision. But there aren't a lot of guys who live much past that fellow's age.
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 I cared for a couple in their 80s. Now im sharing space and retired but live the idea of going in a van to explore
"We all misfits " 🥰...love the freedom to be true to yourself
Bless her heart for getting out there. I wanna do it too
Blessings to all Nomads🤗
Beautiful people, beautiful stories, making healthy choices along the path of life ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Congratulations for this woman having the intestinal fortitude to take the leap of faith for freedom.. there is more to this lady than meets the eye
You can see the instant shift. A little kindness can change a life. Beautiful
VanLife is a revelation for the young as much the older ones. This life offers much for many. Thanks for this portrait of one aspect of nomadic life.
Sometimes you have to look after your soul, Jo Lynn didn't let being married or illness, stop her from experiencing life and all its beauty. Bravo to Bob Wells your kind heart changes lives. Live each moment as if it was your last.
My friend Gator sold everything, and bought a 200K RV and was sick of the road, RV parks the bugs and sold the RV for 120K and moved back into a condo in S. Florida with one of his lady friends. He is sad it didn't work out but seems pretty happy now
I bet that's more common than we know.
Looks like Jo Lynn rekindled her inner spark!!
I have the plan of traveling around in a converted cargo van. I was In the process of getting ready when I had a multiple sclerosis flare, And I can’t drive anymore. And I can’t move very well. We had already planned on pulling a small trailer behind us so I could have my walker but now I’m in an electric wheelchair, And simply I am unable to do many things you need to do if you’re going to be living in a van. So we’ll travel, I will need to stay at places where there is power, as I need to charge my chair. It was a wonderful dream though, of living the nomad life. Luckily I still can afford my home base, But my heart is out there on the road. Hopefully, I’ll see you down the road!
What a marvellous film about people with real courage, curiosity about life and the determination to really live it while they can. Thank you for this gift, Vanessa and Josh.
I'd have to buy something I could stand up in. These SUV's and mini-vans would drive anyone nuts after a while. Weekends or short trips, sure. But to live in full time? No way.
Yup impossible unless you are as fit as you were at 60 as you were at 15 -25 yo
@@tinrat-n-teet Oh, I can do it. I do it all the time on short trips. But no way I would want to full time.
Try it & let yourself know if you can or can not...UK
@@MarcelGodfrey Sky Tiger did try. She doesn't want to live like that full time. It's her choice.
I wonder how they are doing today? Thanks for a great video 🙋🌷🍀
I'm only 52 and have been watching countless videos over last two years ... money is always the issue because I am not old enough for even a small retirement check. So I am trying to figure out how to work from the road with bad knees, but it's killing me being trapped in town.
I'll offer another option....what I did, although when young, was to buy a dump of a house with friends. We lived in it and fixed it up as best we could. It was not what I would call enjoyable, but life isn't always perfect. The cost for me to get into that property was less than the price of a new van at the time (apples to apples). Over the first years all the other owners moved on and we took in renters. We sold the house as a rental property. With appreciation, the improvements we made, rent we had collected I got back my initial investment plus about 1/2 what a new van was selling for. I repeated this and eventually could buy homes on my own. I've saved a lifetime of rent and gained a lot on appreciation. It is hard work, not always pleasant. I've have moved several times to different states to buy what I could afford.
Look closely at the cost of living in van. Many of these "nomads" have made poor financial decisions their entire life and this is just one more. Living in a van is extremely expensive. Yup, initially it looks cheap. A person buys a used van and hits the road...set for life. Then the van breaks down. Almost by definition you're probably going to be in the middle of nowhere so a huge towing fee. You're not going to be able to shop around, you'll have to pay whatever the closest repair shop charges. Or you buy another used van. No refrigeration so food costs increase and probably you eat more processed food which adds to health issues. You have to drive to new places to camp, gas isn't free. Lot's of propane.
People look at nomadding as cheap because that's what they want it to be. Well living on the street is cheap. Vans and driving costs money. Some people do OK with a nomad life, but take a close look at them, they have some things in common...they're all pretty bright people, can figure things out, creative, healthy. That's their secret. But I see many videos like this one enticing people who don't have all these skills into the same lifestyle. "If I can do it you can too!" People don't like to face it but many people get into rough shape because of making poor choices their entire life. Van life will just be on more bad choice for many.
@@MrWaterbugdesign thanks for the option. I won't ever live in a house with roommates again though and I won't hit the road without a proper budget I will have lived on before hitting the road.
@@MrWaterbugdesign very sad reality nicely explained.
I have started making jewelry and t-shirts and am trying to make them sale worthy.
I'm still too far away from retirement, but I'm working on it. Plus, I have 150lbs to lose.
I'm sure you must have skills worth exchanging for some income. Think about it. I'm sure you can find that thing you would love doing despite the bad knees.
Don't give up the dream!
Bob Wells lived in a van in his town while he worked till he could retire with a pension. A person doesn’t have to wander far to live cheaply in a vehicle.
So that's it? A beginning with no middle and no end...? Bravo!
What a great way to end the day. Thank you
Amazing, how people age so differently...my Mother looked 30 at 70
Most people don't take care of themselves.
What was her diet/exercise/life regimen?
Yes, that woman has made a lifetime of bad lifestyle choices. That's why she looks like she does and also is constantly in and out of bad and unexpected life situations. Poor planning and an inability to anticipate simple things in life everyone else would know are coming is how many people like this end up where they are. And I'm almost her age so I speak with experience.
I love the progression of Jo Lynn, and how she has visibly grown stronger and wiser. She is blooming into a beautiful person❤️❤️❤️.
i relate to how she feels. Then i was diagnosed autistic an my thinking changed. I started making videos (On my other channel, Im not phishing) and writing & publishing books, entering art and photo competitions and winning.... Turns out they were wrong about me. The only dumb thing I did was believe them.
I’m 60 and I’m out there with you. Just spent 3 weeks in North Idaho and Washington.
3 minutes in and I was already crying. I was a gypsy for Halloween 4 years in a row when I was a little girl.
At 58, I'm doing everything I can to make myself ready to do this.
Go for it and best of luck
I thoroughly enjoyed this vlog, the story of Jo Lynn, the possibilities, The dream. The friendships made. Wow really wish I could try this at my ripe old age of 66 !
Yes me too
Yes me three!!
I'm GONNA do it...you won't know you can do it until you try it....come on let's go !!!! 👍
You aren’t dead! Do it
Liked it! Edited by John Woo, cameo of Bob Wells and the HOWA Volunteers! Optimism strangely is in short supply until you see hit a Homerun. I appreciate that and Thank You. And you have great screen presence. :)
This is both sad and really beautiful.
Bob is very convincing. O.M.G. I am in the same boat emotionally. I am on the verge of taking the plunge. Getting out from under the stress.
It was worth getting back on Facebook to see this! Moving and inspirational....Bravo Josh and Vanessa!
Lol you’re not on Facebook.
This is beautiful!. I am so happy for her and all the people finding happiness in doing this.
this was heartfelt.
I started crying at 2:00 minutes into this story, this is absolutely beautiful :)
Me Too.. I cried when I heard Bob's voice in the trailer for NomadLand movie too
Women go through a lot everyday. They give n give all the time. Bob is a giving guy, he doesn't hv to, u know. He brought joy to women n men both...n me too watching from far far north, thk u all
Inspiring! I'm living vicariously through all the nomad youtubers for now. Hope to be a nomad in 6 yrs.
Heart breaking but rejuvenating.
These women nomads might as well enjoy the rest of their lives doing whatever they want to do that will give them some peace of mind!
I am so proud of this woman. Rock on Jolynn
Her husband must have had a mean spirited view on the word like you seem to have. Take accountability for the fact that your post added negativity and distance
@Edwoods Philosophy please troll elsewhere.
This is so fantastic. I cried thru it. I have hope. Thank you
Jo Lynn, wishing you the best!
Love ❤️ that riddle..
Very moving video! Thank you for giving hope to so many.
I am very proud of Jo Lynn for leaving her energy wasting husband and trapped life behind. it shows courage and dignity
Thinking about being one at 70.
Me too...I'm 69...
I've already decided I'm doing this.
Nice message. So many of us fall into the trap we call "life." There are many ways for people to be happy. I am envious .
He even inspired me.. and now I'm working on my van so I can live the life I've always dreamed of
Thank you for this.
This was very precious and wholesome. I’m glad that I took the time to watch 💖
Enlightening story. TFS!
This was very uplifting.....Thank You ....
I'm 68 and have a van I could live in but it's a Plan B for me if I were to lose my home.
That's the only way I would ever live fulltime in a van and since I hate travelling I would never be a nomad but just stay in my hometown.
Me two better than living under a bridge
See ForestyForest videos on youtube. Especially his older ones where he lives in a tiny Chevy Uplander :) his new bigger van is nice but that small van is a stealth camper rig
I cried for her when I saw the video. I almost feel the same way. I'm looking for a vehicle. I'm trying to plan. I'm past retirement age. This is what I want. I want something for myself. My kids want me to keep the house. I feel like it could be a ball and chain since the house isn't paid for yet. Happy travels to Jo Lynn!
Beautiful little doc. Thank you for creating and sharing this.
I am in love with this video...I see love, I feel hope, I feel the consciousness that connects us....love