Hi Russ... excited to see you using and reviewing RoguePanda. I found them a few years ago and as you probably learned Nick is awesome to work with. I have a 2016 Salsa Fargo and I did the same thing with sending in a picture with tape measure. I wanted a frame bag but didn't want it to fill the entire triangle. I have a large framed Fargo. Nick was able to do just what I asked and that was to leave that area that on the seat tube open for the water bottle cage. It actually looks sort of cool having that area still available and the bag stops just short of that yet has plenty of storage. He was able to give me a divider wall inside the bag that made separate compartments. Sort of a floor to it and I could either use it or flatten it open so to have full access. He could explain that part better. What I found about RoguePanda is their quality. The bag is super well made. Very durable. Like you said with the bigger zippers etc. Attention to detail. He even made me a water tight pocket inside the frame-bag for my phone just to be sure in case of a downpour. I have ordered four bags from him probably from within the first year of having my bike. Two custom and two that they call universal stock items. They were different styles of tool bags called the "Oracle." It is a small bag but probably my favorite and connects to the down tube under it. The one I got from him is not on his site but he could probably still make it. It had the zipper versus the new style is a roll pouch. The zippered one was the best IMO but the pouch holds more. It is crazy quality too and he uses nothing but the best in way of Velcro straps that are rubberized where they touch your frame. Backs that up with a quality buckle closure and that thing is not coming off!! The other custom item I bought was a handle bar bag to match the frame bag. (Black/Camo) He outdid himself on that one too with good quality and added a zipper across the top to give me the access I wanted. I am picky and Nick was patient and listened and was always polite and professional. They give you some decals of the Panda head too which is sort of cool for the car window.
Custom frame bags are the only way to go. Congrats for getting one. Quite cool.... even though I also make bags, Rouge Panda is one that I always enjoy seeing.
have noticed your frame bag many times. Spent much time trying to figure out thru searching "traditional" bike packing bag company websites looking for that elusive bag. Did not binge watch or go backwards thru your videos, would have saved me some time. Did learn about other bags in the process. Thanks for this video though. I loved the pattern of your frame bag, it may be my Christmas gift to myself. So appeciate the other content you produce.
Suggestion - place sticking tape vertically at the back of the measuring tape across the top tube & down tube so the tape numbers & bike frame aren't obscured.
A good tip would have been to photograph the bike with bottles on. I’m quite keen on the possibility of ordering a tweedy style bag for my vintage three speed!
My Kona Rove ST 2020 Medium fits the full frame Revolate bag so perfectly that I think it might be what they used as a template! I'm about to make a custom saddle bag. Send me tips. 😁
@@josephcornwell3578 Ha! We've got no interest in getting into clothing manufacturing ... but a banana print is a fun idea! We've got two new food-themed prints coming soon, avocados and coffee beans.
What size is the frame of the Warbird? I am having a tough time finding a bag that fits mine and still allows for 2 water bottles to be mounted comfortably. PS: Thanks for the awesome videos!
When I think of half bag I think of the one like Russ just got here as being a half bag. The one I got from RoguePanda I had them fill the frame triangle top to bottom but leave about 5 to 6 inches away from the seat tube so i could get into and still have that water bottle that stands vertically on the seat tube. I thought I would regret not getting the full bag but I end up liking it as it's plenty storage and didn't loose that water cage. Of course later I got one like the one Russ has and love it too for certain rides.
@@nicksmolinske7786 Hey Nick! You've made so many bags and wasn't sure if you remembered that one for me. I'm using it later this week on a four day ride in Pennsylvania. It is a great option for sure and tough as nails!
Russ, why don't you use stainless steel water bottles? They feel more in line with the supple life to me. I use Hydro Flasks (vacuum insulated) with their sport tops that have air inlets, and hold them down with King Cage Iris cages (I've never lost my bottles while tossing the bike around on crazy terrain). I get great tasting cool water, with no plastic leach (which becomes worse the warmer the water becomes in plastic bottles).
What’s easier than taking a photo? Working off a 1:1 photo is more accurate so you can also design around bottle bosses did some one wants to bolt the bag on. It also compensated for any measuring mistakes from people.
Just to save some time for anyone else who can actually use a sewing machine, this video doesn't have *any* information about "how to make a custom frame bag." It's just an ad for a made-to-measure company. I was hoping to get some tips on sealing seams but the entire contents of the video were an introduction, the manufacturer explaining that they use a digital photo and projector to scale the template and lay out strap locations, and then the presenter restating the exact same information. The weirdest thing about the clickbait title is that nobody with the skills to make a custom bag would buy one of these, though they do look like a cool option for people who aren't interested in experimenting and learning on their own.
Hi Russ... excited to see you using and reviewing RoguePanda.
I found them a few years ago and as you probably learned Nick is awesome to work with.
I have a 2016 Salsa Fargo and I did the same thing with sending in a picture with tape measure.
I wanted a frame bag but didn't want it to fill the entire triangle. I have a large framed Fargo.
Nick was able to do just what I asked and that was to leave that area that on the seat tube open
for the water bottle cage. It actually looks sort of cool having that area still available
and the bag stops just short of that yet has plenty of storage. He was able to give me a divider wall inside the bag
that made separate compartments. Sort of a floor to it and I could either use it or flatten it open so to have full access.
He could explain that part better.
What I found about RoguePanda is their quality.
The bag is super well made. Very durable. Like you said with the bigger zippers etc. Attention to detail.
He even made me a water tight pocket inside the frame-bag for my phone just to be sure in case of a downpour.
I have ordered four bags from him probably from within the first year of having my bike.
Two custom and two that they call universal stock items. They were different styles of tool bags called the "Oracle."
It is a small bag but probably my favorite and connects to the down tube under it. The one I got from him is not on his
site but he could probably still make it. It had the zipper versus the new style is a roll pouch. The zippered one
was the best IMO but the pouch holds more. It is crazy quality too and he uses nothing
but the best in way of Velcro straps that are rubberized where they touch your frame. Backs that up with a quality
buckle closure and that thing is not coming off!!
The other custom item I bought was a handle bar bag to match the frame bag. (Black/Camo)
He outdid himself on that one too with good quality and added a zipper across the top to give me the access I wanted.
I am picky and Nick was patient and listened and was always polite and professional.
They give you some decals of the Panda head too which is sort of cool for the car window.
Custom frame bags are the only way to go. Congrats for getting one. Quite cool.... even though I also make bags, Rouge Panda is one that I always enjoy seeing.
I own 2 custom full frame bags from Rogue Panda, they are great and their customer service is excellent. I have a black one and a camo panda one.
have noticed your frame bag many times. Spent much time trying to figure out thru searching "traditional" bike packing bag company websites looking for that elusive bag. Did not binge watch or go backwards thru your videos, would have saved me some time. Did learn about other bags in the process.
Thanks for this video though. I loved the pattern of your frame bag, it may be my Christmas gift to myself. So appeciate the other content you produce.
Impressive process. Once you see how they do it it’s a “duh” moment. That bag looks sick.
Super awesome frame bag.. fits perfectly.. Go Rogue Panda!!
Cool bag. Slick process by Rogue Panda to perfect bag dimensions. Thumbs up!
I got a Rogue Panda bag for my adventure bike. I love it. It fits perfectly. I got the lacing tie on top (no Velcro) and the bottle cage mounts.
Love our Rogue Panda bags, I doubt you will find anything negative to say about this Russ!
I ordered the full frame bag in this pattern. Feel Aloha already 😂
I love both my Rogue Panda frame bags and get so many compliments on them.
This was so smart
It is awesome that their flag pattern bags have a Cascadia flag.
The Cascadia option is embroidered, too! We sew the tri-color design together and then have the tree embroidered on top.
One of my frame bags is Cascadia, but they don't make the same design now. Mine is one of a kind. Love it so much!
Suggestion - place sticking tape vertically at the back of the measuring tape across the top tube & down tube so the tape numbers & bike frame aren't obscured.
No worries there - we only need to see two marks on the ruler to get a distance, so it doesn't matter if some of the ruler is covered up.
@@roguepandadesigns got ya, I was also thinking about cables & cable guides that might be obscured.
A good tip would have been to photograph the bike with bottles on.
I’m quite keen on the possibility of ordering a tweedy style bag for my vintage three speed!
They know how long the standard Purist bottles are and design around them. Would be more important to allow a clear view of mounting bolts.
I like that framebag looks pretty good 😬
Hoyl shiz! I'm currently waiting for my frame bag from Rogue Panda! As is the stoke wasn't real enough.
My Kona Rove ST 2020 Medium fits the full frame Revolate bag so perfectly that I think it might be what they used as a template!
I'm about to make a custom saddle bag. Send me tips. 😁
Custom full frame roll top in Black camo with the Alamogordo in Black camo also. Great bags
Love the pattern!!
Would love to see the inside liner be either neon green or neon orange! 👍
Way cool 👍👍👍👍
Love the channel
Nice video russ, good to see the process. Love the fabric too. Maybe you could get one made in a banana pattern to match your shirt!!!.
Or...maybe Rogue Panda could make you a shirt to match the bag 😊
@@josephcornwell3578 Ha! We've got no interest in getting into clothing manufacturing ... but a banana print is a fun idea! We've got two new food-themed prints coming soon, avocados and coffee beans.
So very cool!!
You've got me thinking about this. I am thinking of going with Porcelain Rocket. I think they build custom bags.
How would it be using a dropper post on a gravel bike? Do you see any use for it or benefits?
If you're doing rougher more technical riding it can be very handy for smooth dirt roads I don't think it's necessary
I went custom full frame bag on my Fargo. Defiant. Love it but your size will get more use.
What size is the frame of the Warbird? I am having a tough time finding a bag that fits mine and still allows for 2 water bottles to be mounted comfortably. PS: Thanks for the awesome videos!
I only use a rear green guru bag now but have considered a frame bag.
Love the design/process. I'm currently debating between which half frame bag I went to get for my 54cm Salsa Journeyman, any suggestions?
When I think of half bag I think of the one like Russ just got here as being a half bag. The one I got from RoguePanda I had them fill the frame triangle top to bottom but leave about 5 to 6 inches away from the seat tube so i could get into and still have that water bottle that stands vertically on the seat tube. I thought I would regret not getting the full bag but I end up liking it as it's plenty storage and didn't loose that water cage. Of course later I got one like the one Russ has and love it too for certain rides.
@@edge8edge Yeah, that's an under-utilized option in my opinion. It's a great way to go!
@@nicksmolinske7786 Hey Nick! You've made so many bags and wasn't sure if you remembered that one for me. I'm using it later this week on a four day ride in Pennsylvania. It is a great option for sure and tough as nails!
Someday I'll have one of these made. Ideally with the Idaho state flag on one side, Arizona on the other. Definitely going to have to save my pennies!
Russ, why don't you use stainless steel water bottles? They feel more in line with the supple life to me. I use Hydro Flasks (vacuum insulated) with their sport tops that have air inlets, and hold them down with King Cage Iris cages (I've never lost my bottles while tossing the bike around on crazy terrain). I get great tasting cool water, with no plastic leach (which becomes worse the warmer the water becomes in plastic bottles).
No specific reason. We used Klean Kanteens for years (heck our cross country trip was used for their ad campaign back in the day).
Damn, now I want one
Why don't you send some of your water paintings to them and see what happens Thank you Russ for all you do
My bike frame doesn't allow for frame bags. I butchered a fanny pak for an option
I just spent the entire day making a custom bag for my bike. This looks much easier
Interesting video, thanks!
I have 2 questions, the bag is waterproof?
The Salsa has 28 or 27.5 wheels?
Thanks
No. 650b.
What material is used?
what brand is that mudguard?
hey which fabric do you use?
Wouldn't it be easier for them if you just send them the inner triangle measurements?
What’s easier than taking a photo? Working off a 1:1 photo is more accurate so you can also design around bottle bosses did some one wants to bolt the bag on. It also compensated for any measuring mistakes from people.
Who makes that frame?
I use a very economic Moosetreks bag I got off of Ebay.
Good review. I have two of their half~frame bags and echo your thoughts.
A sewing Panda, whodathunkit?
Just to save some time for anyone else who can actually use a sewing machine, this video doesn't have *any* information about "how to make a custom frame bag." It's just an ad for a made-to-measure company. I was hoping to get some tips on sealing seams but the entire contents of the video were an introduction, the manufacturer explaining that they use a digital photo and projector to scale the template and lay out strap locations, and then the presenter restating the exact same information.
The weirdest thing about the clickbait title is that nobody with the skills to make a custom bag would buy one of these, though they do look like a cool option for people who aren't interested in experimenting and learning on their own.
$140 and up
no flap on the zipper is a big letdown
Choike Bags also makes custom framebags
Just saying
Lots of people make custom frame bags. I just went with RP.
@@PathLessPedaledTV yup