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I loved this. Great advice! I'll definately have to begin being more concious about when I can start plugging this into my stories! Always up for growth.
8:07 in lovecraft chutllu mythos, dreams are very important and there is a structure called dreamlamds that is above the universe, in the dreamlands the characters can become gods and is filled with immeasurable realms See 'How powerful are the lovecraftian gods' by literary who for actual information on how the cosmology works
@@TheTaleTinkererthey do a lot of fun stuff with dreams. For example there is a powefull wish-granting entity who lives as a 2 dimensional beeing on the wall of a room that only exists in the dream of a mysterious old man who parradoxically lives inside the world he is creating through his dream. They also make the characters feel small by sometimes showing whats happening 1000 years in the future or past or on some city in space. Humans nearly went extinct long before the story started and in the ruins of their civilisation new civilisations of all kinds of creatures have formed. Many questions arise and few are answered. Despite all the wierd things happening around them the characters feel incredibly real and grounded. I highly recommend giving this show a watch.
Thank you for this great video! In my youth I devoured Lovecraft but it only just came to me when watching that I have been, unconsciously, been writing sort of an eldritch goddess into my fantasy WIP. Dream-realm and all. Holy tentacle, the things that shape our minds.
Reminds me of how charybdis and Scylla are described. In a text 2700 years old! We know Scylla has six heads on long necks each with three rows of teeth, 12 feet and that "she's half deep" inside her dark cavern. And that she's a sight "no one is happy to see, not even gods" And charybdis is just said to swallow water. we're not told what she looks like, but when odysseus approach her when she wallow water and she's visible at the bottom of the seas, the crew is white with horror. So we have few details, but we can ruse them to imagine inhuman horrors
@@TheTaleTinkerer Your whole channel is a trove of wisdom. Many of us got our writing style after decades of being avid readers, but we lack the schematics, the charts, put them in words. You are that man.
As a matter of fact, I find it truly baffling how many people, when speaking about Lovecraft, are adamantly sure he avoided clear descriptions of his cosmic horrors. Well, you will find many phrases like "unspeakable monstrosity" and "impossible angles" in his writing, but in fact most of his monsters, be it Shoggoth, Elder Things, Yithians or Cthulhu humself, are described in minute details that actually leave almost no space for reader's imagination. _Books_, on the other side, are completely different story. Of them Lovecraft do give only hints and glimpses, showing their contents mostly through readers' reactions. So, long story short, I heartily agree with the main idea of this video, and Lovecraft surely is to praise for using this powerful storytelling tool, it's only that he used it completely differently from what most people think.
One of my characters is sokea a towering beast who crashed on a planet who had forgotten all things about technology and have regressed into middivil systems. Sokeas is an enigma to those people ravor sees his intelligence but as the sun sets sokea is gon. Turned invisible by the dark and despite 2000 tons in weight he moves with an unreal silence. Ravor marvels at the creature as high calibre chainguns open up on the all black giant just to have the devastating projectiles of those old ruins bounce of him like they were nothing. The creature clearly had lost its eyes all 18 in fact but seemed to be more aware then even 100 people together. This large predatory beast with 35m long wings has claws sharp enough to cut threw any material without even a sound but gentle so as to transport a young girl without harm. There is just one thing ravor is certain about; this thing is a great intelligent asset or a bringer of doom.
@ it’s got to do with his advanced senses and vast intelligence as well as predatory origin. In his natural environment he weighs thousands of times more. An over ambitious species though it be a good idea to clone these apex predators from a neutron star so they could soon modify themselves with their durability and functional immortality but little did they know that those creatures were already sentient. I plan on writing a separate story explaining their origins. It should read like a horror story as the head cloning expert tries to hunt down one of his creations only to find out that he was the prey all along.
I have a character I’m working on a dark magician who uses unquantifiable magic. It’s only sometimes rule is never the same way twice. If he did the same thing more than once it would put a name to what he dose thus defining the magic. Undefined and unrestrained. I’m just trying to come up with a way to counter a magic that is wielded that way. If you could have unrestricted access to magic but the catch is you ant do anything if it’s something you can put a name to how would you try and kill an enemy? How would a hero of yours kill a bad guy who can any minute turn into an elephant? Or turn your house into a gum wad?
@@dodobarthel2249 That would be an interesting way to approach this, yes. Another could be to get the dark magician to exhaust his options. If he can never do the same thing twice, there are only so many unique ways he can come up with defending himself in confined spaces for example - even against basic attacks. The idea would basically be to try and wear him out, but obviously, it all depends on the scope of the magic. If it is "endless" in power level and possibilities, it stands to reason how the hero has a chance in the first place 🙂
This was more worldbuilding and theme focused rather than actual cosmic horror. That's why the thumbnail also says "Cosmic Awe" not "Cosmic Horror" 🙂 I did go into some of the other aspects in this video here already two months ago: th-cam.com/video/DfnoRzg0a-M/w-d-xo.html - maybe that includes more of what you were hoping for 🙂
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I LOVE eldritch horrors beyond my comprehension🙌
Powerful. Very useful in my crafting. Thank you.
Glad to hear that you could find something useful in the video, have fun with it 🙂
I loved this. Great advice! I'll definately have to begin being more concious about when I can start plugging this into my stories!
Always up for growth.
Glad to hear you liked it - thank you for taking the time to comment 🙂
8:07 in lovecraft chutllu mythos, dreams are very important and there is a structure called dreamlamds that is above the universe, in the dreamlands the characters can become gods and is filled with immeasurable realms
See 'How powerful are the lovecraftian gods' by literary who for actual information on how the cosmology works
One of my favourite examples of this is a show called adventure time.
Never seen it, what exactly did they include in it? 🙂
@@TheTaleTinkererthey do a lot of fun stuff with dreams. For example there is a powefull wish-granting entity who lives as a 2 dimensional beeing on the wall of a room that only exists in the dream of a mysterious old man who parradoxically lives inside the world he is creating through his dream.
They also make the characters feel small by sometimes showing whats happening 1000 years in the future or past or on some city in space.
Humans nearly went extinct long before the story started and in the ruins of their civilisation new civilisations of all kinds of creatures have formed.
Many questions arise and few are answered.
Despite all the wierd things happening around them the characters feel incredibly real and grounded. I highly recommend giving this show a watch.
@@SentientMicrowave-dd7zq Thanks for the tip, we'll see if I can squeeze it in at times 🙂
Thank you for this great video! In my youth I devoured Lovecraft but it only just came to me when watching that I have been, unconsciously, been writing sort of an eldritch goddess into my fantasy WIP. Dream-realm and all.
Holy tentacle, the things that shape our minds.
Glad that you liked the video, have fun with that goddess of yours 😀
@@TheTaleTinkerer Oh she'll have fun... yes yes... so much fun +evilgrin+
Reminds me of how charybdis and Scylla are described. In a text 2700 years old!
We know Scylla has six heads on long necks each with three rows of teeth, 12 feet and that "she's half deep" inside her dark cavern. And that she's a sight "no one is happy to see, not even gods"
And charybdis is just said to swallow water. we're not told what she looks like, but when odysseus approach her when she wallow water and she's visible at the bottom of the seas, the crew is white with horror.
So we have few details, but we can ruse them to imagine inhuman horrors
I spent most of my teen years reading cosmic-horror and weird-fantasy. It's impossible to me to not use it as I'm doing now in my first novel.
Best of luck with your novel, hope the video helped a tiny bit then 🙂
@@TheTaleTinkerer Your whole channel is a trove of wisdom. Many of us got our writing style after decades of being avid readers, but we lack the schematics, the charts, put them in words. You are that man.
As a matter of fact, I find it truly baffling how many people, when speaking about Lovecraft, are adamantly sure he avoided clear descriptions of his cosmic horrors.
Well, you will find many phrases like "unspeakable monstrosity" and "impossible angles" in his writing, but in fact most of his monsters, be it Shoggoth, Elder Things, Yithians or Cthulhu humself, are described in minute details that actually leave almost no space for reader's imagination.
_Books_, on the other side, are completely different story. Of them Lovecraft do give only hints and glimpses, showing their contents mostly through readers' reactions.
So, long story short, I heartily agree with the main idea of this video, and Lovecraft surely is to praise for using this powerful storytelling tool, it's only that he used it completely differently from what most people think.
All roads lead to eldritch horror
One of my characters is sokea a towering beast who crashed on a planet who had forgotten all things about technology and have regressed into middivil systems. Sokeas is an enigma to those people ravor sees his intelligence but as the sun sets sokea is gon. Turned invisible by the dark and despite 2000 tons in weight he moves with an unreal silence. Ravor marvels at the creature as high calibre chainguns open up on the all black giant just to have the devastating projectiles of those old ruins bounce of him like they were nothing. The creature clearly had lost its eyes all 18 in fact but seemed to be more aware then even 100 people together. This large predatory beast with 35m long wings has claws sharp enough to cut threw any material without even a sound but gentle so as to transport a young girl without harm. There is just one thing ravor is certain about; this thing is a great intelligent asset or a bringer of doom.
Sounds like a tough beast 🙂Sneaking silently with that weight certainly means some supernatural skills.
@ it’s got to do with his advanced senses and vast intelligence as well as predatory origin. In his natural environment he weighs thousands of times more. An over ambitious species though it be a good idea to clone these apex predators from a neutron star so they could soon modify themselves with their durability and functional immortality but little did they know that those creatures were already sentient.
I plan on writing a separate story explaining their origins. It should read like a horror story as the head cloning expert tries to hunt down one of his creations only to find out that he was the prey all along.
I have a character I’m working on a dark magician who uses unquantifiable magic. It’s only sometimes rule is never the same way twice. If he did the same thing more than once it would put a name to what he dose thus defining the magic. Undefined and unrestrained. I’m just trying to come up with a way to counter a magic that is wielded that way. If you could have unrestricted access to magic but the catch is you ant do anything if it’s something you can put a name to how would you try and kill an enemy? How would a hero of yours kill a bad guy who can any minute turn into an elephant? Or turn your house into a gum wad?
Tricking the enemy into defeating himself is a classic one and should make sense since he probably doesn't understand what he is doing completely.
@@dodobarthel2249 That would be an interesting way to approach this, yes.
Another could be to get the dark magician to exhaust his options. If he can never do the same thing twice, there are only so many unique ways he can come up with defending himself in confined spaces for example - even against basic attacks.
The idea would basically be to try and wear him out, but obviously, it all depends on the scope of the magic. If it is "endless" in power level and possibilities, it stands to reason how the hero has a chance in the first place 🙂
Ah, the sublime...
I didn't see anything remotely similar to cosmic horrors in your examples, sorry
This was more worldbuilding and theme focused rather than actual cosmic horror. That's why the thumbnail also says "Cosmic Awe" not "Cosmic Horror" 🙂
I did go into some of the other aspects in this video here already two months ago: th-cam.com/video/DfnoRzg0a-M/w-d-xo.html - maybe that includes more of what you were hoping for 🙂