Snatoms! The Magnetic Molecular Modeling Kit

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  • @FrostedSapling
    @FrostedSapling 9 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    I think the largest concern (and a warranted one) is that these cannot show double or triple bonds, but I think this is fine because, as he said in his video, he wants to create a hands on approach that can be used at young ages and this works perfectly for that. This type of product is great for spark an interest in science at a young age so I'm all for it!

    • @ghostangel828
      @ghostangel828 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah, I man, you probably won't need that kid if you are at the point of learning double and triple bond, right?

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Ivan Navarro He mentions on the Kickstarter page that he may add them to a later kit.

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      +Ivan Navarro I'm making these a stretch goal. I think we can make them work with springs and magnets.

    • @assdan27
      @assdan27 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ivan Navarro This is very true. I don't know how you could represent double and triple bonds with this model though. I don't really think that you could.

    • @deankorstjens266
      @deankorstjens266 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Veritasium Good luck!

  •  9 ปีที่แล้ว +902

    Seriously... this is how chemistry (or physics) should be taught. Keep up the good work and I do hope that many teachers are considering to adopt your methods. Much easier and more interesting way to learn stuff!

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      +Bence Illés Thank you!

    • @vaibhavgupta20
      @vaibhavgupta20 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Veritasium your CH4 representation was wrong. other then that good work.

    • @jbelang
      @jbelang 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Veritasium Snatoms is a GREAT idea!

    • @dekos2140
      @dekos2140 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bence Illés i really should be taught that way I WILL BE A SCIENTIST (CHEMIST) ONE DAY

    • @H0A0B123
      @H0A0B123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Vaibhav Gupta what is wrong?

  • @ThalesII
    @ThalesII 9 ปีที่แล้ว +493

    I'd be cool if each atom had different grades of magnets to represent their respective electronegativity

    • @alexbuckley4378
      @alexbuckley4378 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +ThalesII +1

    • @syluar
      @syluar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +ThalesII but in organic chemistry depending what substituents you have along the chain changes electrons density making some bonds easier or harder to break even if they're between same atoms but in different mollecules. So... sorry but it wouldn't realy be possible to do with magnets.

    • @ruolbu
      @ruolbu 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +syluar Maybe in a hightech version with electro magnets. Each atom communicates with the neighboring atoms to set the bond strength according to the bigger picture.

    • @GarioTheRock
      @GarioTheRock 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      600 lbs/force Neodymium magnets for uranium bonds :D

    • @djbrasier
      @djbrasier 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ThalesII This is also my answer to his discussion with Hank Green. The reason H2O and CO2 are lower energy than glucose and O2 is that many of the bonds in glucose and all the bonds in O2 are equal electronegativity, but CO and OH bonds are unequal and that is a big part of why they're lower energy (although NOT "stronger")

  • @T3DNR3D
    @T3DNR3D 9 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    > $94,000 of $42,000 funded with 41 days to go.
    Goddamn I love this community.

    • @xcandle_
      @xcandle_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      its 101k now, amazing

    • @Foc4ccin4
      @Foc4ccin4 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Its Shadox 7k$ more in 2 hours.

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      +BrightSkyFire 42 likes on this comment, so I won't like it ;)

    • @bergeronscores605
      @bergeronscores605 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Veritasium Sorry, other people did instead. God, some people just ruin EVERYTHING, right? :) Nah, I'm kidding, of course.

    • @Mrcfski
      @Mrcfski 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BrightSkyFire 69 likes on this comment, won't like

  • @tvpedroso
    @tvpedroso 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Derek congratulations. I'm an engineer and I love your videos, they are so helpful and fun to watch. I think the world should have more people that are passionate about science like you and me. Good luck on this project, I hope you can reach millions including schools, universities and enthusiasts around the globe, because chemistry, physics and mathematics are universal languages. Keep up the good work!

  • @Anyhandleidontcare
    @Anyhandleidontcare 9 ปีที่แล้ว +706

    +Veritasium This is a great idea, however I would like to make a suggestion. Don't cut the kit short of elements from the start, instead have a starter snatoms kit, which would be what you showed in this video, then an intermediate one (with nitrogen, chlorine, lithium, magnesium etc...) with more snatoms of more elements, then have an advanced one which includes hybridised orbitals and borane structures. You could even move it to organometallics and transition metal complex ions. As a final year undergraduate chemist I wish I had this sort of thing going through my GCSEs and A levels, but only the most advanced of 'kits' would apply to my studies now. Also with the 'Easy, medium, hard' type system students would get a real sense of achievement in learning enough to 'level up' to the next kit and keep pupils motivated. What I'm really trying to get across here is this is a great idea, and the kit you showed would very great for kids just starting secondary school, it just needs to be beefed up a lot more to become a viable visualisation tool to actual chemists, you could hit a totally new target audience thats ripe for the picking. I wish you the best with this venture and I hope you succeed.

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Thanks for your suggestion! I'd be happy to make the kit bigger if this one is supported

    • @spyndina
      @spyndina 9 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      +John Smith agree with everything exctept you forgot to inclue the need to scale down the size of atoms in intermediate and even advanced kits since any molecule larger than sucrose would very very impractical.

    • @marsamet128
      @marsamet128 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea! It would be so many more structures!

    • @Anyhandleidontcare
      @Anyhandleidontcare 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Aljas Skrjanc Veritasium Very good point, but need only be about 70-80% of the original size by volume. Too small is just as impractical. Just making sure Veritasium would see this idea too :)

    • @bi1iruben
      @bi1iruben 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +John Smith Not sure would need have specifically magnesium. It might be better to have a generic Group 1 , 2 and 7 (so allows consideration of sodium, potassium, chlorine). That covers simple inorganic chemistry (allowing NaCl). Nitrogen and sulphur would then complete a moderate complex kit level taken one a long way into organic chemistry.

  • @ASilentS
    @ASilentS 9 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    How does your system show the change in bond angle for double bonds?

    • @Uhor
      @Uhor 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +SilentS or the change in bond length

    • @ilostmypie
      @ilostmypie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      +SilentS I know right. its only showing Sp3 hybridised Carbon.
      The problem with all these kits is that there is just so much more wibble wobble going on than can be represented by balls of plastic.
      HOWEVER that being said, anyone who understands hybridisation, sigma and pi bonding etc will not be using this kit. More likely computational molecular models. This kit is very good for the level of chemistry that early teens are learning.

    • @YRGHY2010
      @YRGHY2010 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Nelson Mandela I agree 100%. I was commenting on another post discussing bonds. Someone said making different balls for different bonds. I replied by saying that it would be extremely inconvenient because he'd have to make several carbon types (single, double, tripple, quadruple, and all the different hybridized bonds).

    • @ASilentS
      @ASilentS 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Yousef Elraghy Just a regular ball and stick kit with spring bonds provides more insight than these magical magnet balls

    • @Zargak21
      @Zargak21 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +SilentS That is true but I think he's aiming for a younger audience to get them interested. I mean Giving kids sticks is fun but the outcome isn't always the best (and that's coming from the kid who always found the worst outcome to go by).

  • @joshdoeseverything4575
    @joshdoeseverything4575 9 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    gonna ask my teacher about this. School systems around the world need these!

    • @Nehmo
      @Nehmo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +JoshDoesEverything I don't have an MBA, and maybe I don't understand business, but doesn't a successful product succeed by orders - rather than kickstart campaigns? Indeed, orders from customers, or sales, are all you need. Something like this doesn't require an investment in a complicated fabrication facility. It should fly on its own merits.

    • @Ryan-sn7fq
      @Ryan-sn7fq 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! I'm buying one for my science teacher!

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Nehmo Sergheyev Businesses need money to get off the ground. It's mostly a matter of quality and scale. It's trivial to prototype a product, but to have everything made (such as injection molds) for the final product, and then to be able to produce a large enough batch to make it make sense financially requires a pretty big chunk of capital.
      I mean, you can't just produce one of these kits at a time to satisfy orders. That would be way too expensive. You need to produce a huge run of them that can then be sold. The proceeds from that can then go into additional runs, and you have a business up and running. That initial capital is vital though.
      Think of it like a chemical reaction. Often you have to put in activation energy to start a chemical reaction that produces enough energy to keep itself going. Like a fire burning. You need to add a spark to start the fire. Without that activation energy the fire never burns, and without capital, a business never gets up and running.
      That's what Kickstarter is for. Raising capital to get the business going and sustaining itself.

    • @Nehmo
      @Nehmo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +seigeengine These are not microprocessors. They are simple pieces of plastic with magnets inside. If you believe injection moulding should be the manufacturing technique, then for something like this (with an unproven market) contracting out the process to an injection moulding company is the only reasonable route.
      Sure, there is always a way money could be spent, but successful products persist because of the demand for them. And that's all that's needed. If Deric can demonstrate he can sell this product, that's really all he needs to get it going.

    • @oliver_siegel
      @oliver_siegel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Nehmo Sergheyev and he just demonstrated that he can sell it by getting over $130,000 in pre-orders within 24 hours. Kickstarter simply helped process the credit cards. Not sure why you think this was not a good choice to launch this campaign. Not much risk for Derek, and turned out a huge success.

  • @Jynkins
    @Jynkins 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a science student, I can say that chemistry is by far the hardest subject I've taken in college. Having something like this--something hands-on--really seems like it would help the learning process. :D I'll be sharing this info with others.

  • @kexcz8276
    @kexcz8276 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what I thought of few times! Why there were always the stick models, when in some animations, the molecules were bondless! Great idea, I hope I will buy them someday! :)

  • @jackofallspades98
    @jackofallspades98 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    CONGRATULATIONS ON 3 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS, DEREK!!

  • @Czarmzy
    @Czarmzy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I'm surprised that none has came up with that idea before.

    • @joaovitorjoaovitor
      @joaovitorjoaovitor 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      It's putting the ideas into practice that makes the difference

    • @lajoswinkler
      @lajoswinkler 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Dawid Cz Actually, these things existed way before but they aren't very good because you can't make anything a bit mode complex without it breaking apart under its own weight.

    • @itsthesola10
      @itsthesola10 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Lajos Winkler that was a matter of the past, because neodymium is strong enough for this business.

  • @JustThingKing
    @JustThingKing 9 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    What about double or triple bonds?

    • @Ariminua
      @Ariminua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has extra pieces for those too in the kits.

  • @evanscott146
    @evanscott146 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this very same idea, but I didn't have the resources to make it happen, so I am unbelievably glad that someone else, with the know-how and the public following, had the same idea. Thank you! Many future pharmacologists will be grateful to you for giving them a product to visualize the functional groups necessary for the next revolutionary antibiotic!

  • @Fummy007
    @Fummy007 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    One major disadvantage this has over ball/stick model is cost. Having a magnet in each piece limits the amount you can get for a reasonable price. You can't make much with only 12 hydrogens for example, so you will need loads of them. Driving up the price of a set further.

  • @honeyjars
    @honeyjars 9 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    There's no link in the description so I'll put it here instead!
    www.kickstarter.com/projects/veritasium/snatoms-the-magnetic-molecular-modeling-kit

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +honeyjars Thanks for having my back!

    • @honeyjars
      @honeyjars 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No prob! :)

    • @kabilang4921
      @kabilang4921 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Veritasium, effective explanation man. This is the best way to explain some complicated things like quantum mechanics the fusion process. I love your videos. Especially snatoms. Meanwhile, what is quantum Gravity ? is there any video for explanation ?

    • @alexandermcclure6185
      @alexandermcclure6185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@veritasium please pin the comment for everyone to see :)

  • @bodiesscienceofi6053
    @bodiesscienceofi6053 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3 million subs!! you guys totally deserve it! hit like for veritasium!

  • @luxtenax9175
    @luxtenax9175 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man, I feel so insignificant everytime I watch these type of videos.
    First, I am not good at physics or chemistry or maths in general, so it takes me time to understand half of what you say, secondly, I don't have money to buy or donate or support anything. Finally, I don't use neither twitter nor facebook nor anything like that because I don't have friends or followers to share these sort of stuff with.
    I just hope my one like helps, somehow.

  • @caigeeverhart8085
    @caigeeverhart8085 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would have helped me not fail chemistry last year because seeing and messing with what im learning would have given me a more in depth way of understanding this i would totally support it and im going to tell my old chemistry teacher about this so she can decide whether or not she wanta to use it. Keep up the good work and i hope this becomes a reality

  • @BigRalphSmith
    @BigRalphSmith 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an idea that has tremendous potential.
    There is no doubt you should run with this.
    I'm not even a product designer and all kinds of ideas for improvement and expansion of this idea come to mind.
    One of the secrets to successful products is appeal to as wide a diversity of people and applications as possible.
    Something like this has the possibility of ending up as a standard teaching tool in every chemistry or physics teaching environment.
    I can see this end up as an entire educational system for every level of student from young children to post-doc chemical engineers and even physicists.
    *Great Job!*

  • @mina86
    @mina86 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Wait, stupid question, how do you make the magnets all attract each other and never repel?

    • @MrRoboticWarfare
      @MrRoboticWarfare 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +mina86 I imagine each is a dipole allowed to rotate to accommodate its neighbor.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      +MrRoboticWarfare Mentions on the kickstarter that the magnets are spheres that freely rotate.

    • @PhingChov
      @PhingChov 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      that's not a stupid question at all. I wondered the same thing.

    • @jefkinbacca
      @jefkinbacca 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +mina86 It could also be mini horse-shoe magnets so each one contains a N and S end pointing outward, that can spin freely on an axis that runs from the bond surface through the center of the module atom.

    • @Astronut128
      @Astronut128 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up 'Halbach Array', that's probably the answer.

  • @milanghedia7557
    @milanghedia7557 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Extremely well done Derek!! You've solved the misconception about bonds, really great!!
    Hope you get a good support

  • @InForTheLonghaul
    @InForTheLonghaul 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you add ununoctium (118) :3
    In all seriousness though, I love the concept. :) We've been studdying carbon in science recently. I think that these would alot more appealing to us younger science enthusiasts. The satisfying clat and the big bright acrillic balls make it seem so much friendlier to the eye that the stick models my school currently uses. If I had a steady spurce of money, I would back this all the way.
    :D

    • @InForTheLonghaul
      @InForTheLonghaul 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Source bot surce lol.

    • @InForTheLonghaul
      @InForTheLonghaul 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn it, I hate writing on a phone lol.

    • @yakine259
      @yakine259 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +AIM_SideWinder THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED EDIT

    • @InForTheLonghaul
      @InForTheLonghaul 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Yakine BikeRace Not on mobil. :(

    • @yakine259
      @yakine259 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      AIM_SideWinder well on my mobile I can edit without any problems :)

  • @YoureInSilico
    @YoureInSilico 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be incredibly good for learning basic chemistry. Understanding the mechanism of bonding through these is what makes this kit the most valuable.

  • @s.m.4067
    @s.m.4067 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such an amazing product. I am currently taking organic chemistry classes for my biochemistry major and I was just searching yesterday on amazon for a model kit. The magnet idea is more realistic than sticks.

  • @yousorooo
    @yousorooo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Angles between atoms in molecules might change. There can also be double bonds and triple bonds. This model doesn't show any of those.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      +Derek Leung This model isn't intended to, but he mentions in the Kickstarter page that he specifically chose to exclude double and triple bonds from the basic kit despite having an idea of how to do them for simplicity, implying he may add them to a more advanced kit later.

    • @giampaolomannucci8281
      @giampaolomannucci8281 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +seigeengine Yes that's one of the rewards for the future, which could very well become immediate present as the campaign in really succesful

    • @socialistrecyclebin
      @socialistrecyclebin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some snatom molecules can rotate.

  • @TheGreatLordApples
    @TheGreatLordApples 9 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Over 3 Million*

    • @TARS..
      @TARS.. 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The video was recorded few months ago i think

    • @ElNeroDiablo
      @ElNeroDiablo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mikhail Armanuel Well, it was recorded a while back, those that have Vessel saw this video upto about a week ago (since folks who upload to YT & Vessel usually give it a week's headstart before the video goes live on YT).

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ElNeroDiablo I.... really don't see why he would have done that. This isn't content. It's an attempt at funding something. It wouldn't make sense to upload this early on Vessel.
      Also, the campaign seems to have been put up today on Kickstarter.

    • @ElNeroDiablo
      @ElNeroDiablo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      seigeengine He put the video up on Vessel not as "content" but as a "sneak-peak for loyal viewers" over there.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ElNeroDiablo Which would be completely pointless and, in fact, counter-productive.
      If he actually did that, and you aren't just blowing smoke, that was hella dumb.

  • @crazymarkmc
    @crazymarkmc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    maybe make magnetic or just metal circles that have 2 or 3 lines and put the in between the atoms to represent the double and triple bonds

    • @Eriochrom
      @Eriochrom 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +CrazyMarkSRB you'll still have problems with the geometry of the involved C-atoms (linear, trifold, tetrahedron...), but the idea is not bad =)

    • @crazymarkmc
      @crazymarkmc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i have no idea what thoes are cause eng is not my main language and we probably still didnt cover that in chemistry anyway

    • @Eriochrom
      @Eriochrom 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well, short story: if you use up three of the four bonding possibilities in a triple bond, you'll end up with one left, pointing in the opposite direction => linear shape of the molecule, difficult to build with the standard C-atom-ball having four different directions.
      Long story: complicated stuff with electron orbitals, hybridization and energy levels =)

    • @x87-64
      @x87-64 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A great idea

  • @Bolensgoldrush
    @Bolensgoldrush 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an awesome idea. I think you have the right idea marketing it to younger students, and they have a nice blend of professionalism and fun in them!

  • @smkogut
    @smkogut 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schools everywhere need these!! Just chipped in some $$ to help you fund this awesome project, and I hope it gains the attention it deserves. You came up with something really cool and creative, and that's pretty awesome :D

  • @Omaricon
    @Omaricon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Awesome, but please add a link to the the kickstarter :)

    • @Omaricon
      @Omaricon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Omricon nvm, found it! www.kickstarter.com/projects/veritasium/snatoms-the-magnetic-molecular-modeling-kit

    • @adammm321
      @adammm321 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Omricon It was in the description...

    • @syamfarhan3334
      @syamfarhan3334 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +God He posted this comment before he added it in description

    • @TravelWithGus
      @TravelWithGus 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.kickstarter.com/projects/veritasium/snatoms-the-magnetic-molecular-modeling-kit

  • @StanleyKingChan
    @StanleyKingChan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't believe something like this didn't already exist...

  • @InDmand
    @InDmand 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What about double/triple bonds? The only area of chemistry where models really helped me in understanding was chirality, so I don't know how useful these will be, it may help with single covalent bonds, but ion-pairs or host-guest complexes say, would need their own model kits if you assume this is the best way to learn (hands on models).

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +InDmand Yeah, that complexity quite obviously isn't the intended market.
      He answers the double triple bond question on the kickstarter page.

    • @InDmand
      @InDmand 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, fair enough. I guess it just depends on the cost of the kits then, if it can be sold for equal to or cheaper than the ball+stick models ill be on board.
      I've always found them to be pretty overpriced for what they are.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      InDmand They're specialty products for a limited audience. They're going to be more expensive than something mass-produced for the general audience.

    • @InDmand
      @InDmand 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      seigeengine ill stick to 3D computer models i guess then. poor student is poor

    • @vedant6633
      @vedant6633 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank god!! I thought i am the only one to thinks that

  • @mcarrascoo
    @mcarrascoo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a teacher in special education of visual impaired students. Some years ago I started loving accesible science, this looks like a good material to use with blind kids to help them understand how molecules work, especially the click sound and the atraction of the atoms you mention. I'm actually using sticks and playdough now, not the best materials... but the year is getting to an end, the students and the chemistry teacher I support need to learn and teach with something. This gave me some ideas to improve what I'll use next time. Keep going, this is nice! : ) Saludos desde Chile

  • @OlafBorg
    @OlafBorg 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only is your channel inspiring for young and older ones alike, but I think this product is just great.
    Wish I had had a chemistry teacher like you at school and I wish you all the success with this one... looking forward to the size of Fe and Pb ;-)

  • @RDSk0
    @RDSk0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Um..Where's the link?

    • @veritasium
      @veritasium  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +KinRedysko I like to make these things a challene, haha, but it's there now. And here: bit.ly/Snatoms

    • @RDSk0
      @RDSk0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Veritasium Thanks! You're awesome, btw.

    • @adamkatz6532
      @adamkatz6532 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Veritasium I would not donate money, but I might invest

    • @adamkatz6532
      @adamkatz6532 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Adam Katz I have a big suggestion.. which involves some of the superiorities of stick models over your design (as it stands).

  • @ModernDayWarrior
    @ModernDayWarrior 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
    This is such a simple and elegant idea that it's hard to believe it hasn't been done before. BUT I WANT IT.

  • @pinkdispatcher
    @pinkdispatcher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like a nice idea for first-year students, but can be just as misleading as the sticks model for anything more advanced. Can you make double- and triple-bonds? Because these do store energy, e. g. in ethyne.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +pinkdispatcher Bonds do not store energy! Breaking of bonds require energy, while the formation of new bonds releases energy. If the energy required to break the initial bonds is more than what is released when the new ones are formed, it's an endothermic reaction, while if the energy required to begin the reaction is _less_ than what is released, it's an exothermic reaction. The former tends to slow down as it gets too cold to break the bonds, while the latter tends to speed up as it gets increasingly hot.

    • @pinkdispatcher
      @pinkdispatcher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nillie Yes, you are technically correct (the best kind of correct). Normally I'm also a stickler for using correct terminology.
      But often breaking the triple bonds in many cases requires less energy than typical newly-formed bonds would release in total. Which is why you get more out of burning alkynes than from alkenes (or alkanes).

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pinkdispatcher _"But often breaking the triple bonds in many cases requires less energy than typical newly-formed bonds would release in total."_
      That's just an exothermic reaction.

    • @pinkdispatcher
      @pinkdispatcher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nillie
      Um, yes. I understand that. So just disregard my earlier nonsense. It's late and I should go to bed.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +pinkdispatcher From the Kickstarter
      "What about double and triple bonds?!
      They can easily be made with springs and magnets. The reason they are not included in the basic kit is because they would technically be 'small parts' and I wanted to make Snatoms safe and accessible for all who want to use them."

  • @bobbycone2
    @bobbycone2 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic idea! I will absolutely support it! Hope to see these in every science/chemistry classroom one day! I can imagine the various kits with all different types. When this gets big don't sell it to a big company when they come knocking on your door. Keep it! Build it! And be Proud of it! Great job man!

  • @floral.arrangements
    @floral.arrangements 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if you don't care about learning please help this project. This is the best thing I ever kickstarted. Thank you so much for all you do for science. Specifically chemistry.
    Btw. Make more videos solely about chemistry. It's my fav.

  • @GrayShark09
    @GrayShark09 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait a minute! If forming a bond gives energy, and breaking a bond needs energy; where does the energy from burning methane comes from, for example: 2 O2 + 1 CH4 = 1 CO2 + 2 H2O, so, you have 6 bonds is the first form: one in each oxigen molecule, and four in the methane molecule, and you end up with 6 bonds: two in the Carbon dioxide molecule and two in each water molecule. This means 6=6 ,it breaks even!

    • @djbrasier
      @djbrasier 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Akira Mishtokaru CO and OH bonds are unequal electronegativity, making them lower energy bonds than CC or CH bonds.

    • @djbrasier
      @djbrasier 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +masonery123 I don't like the term "stronger". It misleads A LOT. A C-C or C-H bond is non-polar and (comparatively) high energy. The electrons are not held tightly by the nuclei. However, in a C-O or (even more so) an O-H bond, the electrons (and the bond) are lower energy because the oxygen holds them more tightly (more electronegative).
      What is misleading here is people often conclude that an OH bond is "stronger" than a CH bond. In fact, the H-O-H (aka water) rapidly and easily breaks apart all the time into OH- and H+. Whereas if you have methane (four hydrogens bonded to a central carbon) those bonds NEVER spontaneously dissociate. So from the perspective of bonding two atoms together (the definition of a bond), the low energy bonds are WEAKER than the high energy bonds. They happen to hold electrons more tightly, which is why they're lower energy, but the bond itself is weak.

    • @seigeengine
      @seigeengine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Akira Mishtokaru IT comes from the fact that the products of combustion contain even less energy than the reactants in combustion.
      Bonds are not all the same.

    • @The_savvy_Lynx
      @The_savvy_Lynx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Akira Mishtokaru The bonds of CO2 and H2O are releasing more energy when forming these bonds than it takes energy to break the bonds of O2 and CH4 apart. But you still need to first add enough energy to break them apart. That's why O2 and CH4 are stable at room temperature but react (burn) if held into a flame.

    • @descittonks5835
      @descittonks5835 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +DJ Brasier
      The problem with this argument is that you're talking about bond strength, which refers to bond dissociation energy, which is a homolytic process (breaking O-H to O radical and H radical)
      O-H bond strength is significantly stronger than C-C bond strength for bond dissociation energy (110 kcal/mol vs ~83 kcal/mol)....
      When you bring up water going to H+ (which you really should say hydronium) and hydroxide... that is heterolytic bond cleavage, which is reflected upon by pKa.
      So....please be more careful when you make claims about relative bond strengths. When someone compares bond strength, they are inherently talking about homolytic bond cleavage. When someone talks about things such as deprotonation, they are referencing more to acidity.

  • @lean84
    @lean84 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it's great! Just one suggestion, I think that, in addition to the sp3 carbons, the kit should also include sp2 and sp1 carbons in order to make more complex organic molecules

  • @SprollusTube
    @SprollusTube 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm not quite sure I'm getting this. So when I invest in this Kickstarter, will I be receiving equity in your company or will you just provide your investors with bonds?

    • @heh2393
      @heh2393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Bonds" xD

  • @jkennedy299
    @jkennedy299 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been almost a year, and I am so happy that I've finally received my snatoms kit, I am so happy to have helped make your dream a reality, I will be donating my kit to my former high school

  • @user-mq1qk5gm8h
    @user-mq1qk5gm8h 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually a _really_ great idea. Earlier this trimester in my AP Bio class, we were using the balls and sticks, and they always broke, got stuck together, and just weren't very convenient or consistent. These look so much better, and I can already tell science departments all around would be ecstatic to use these! Nice work!

  • @JayBates
    @JayBates 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very cool. Good luck :)

  • @elfran01
    @elfran01 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I´m from México. Where's the link to buy a kit?

  • @azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn
    @azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    do actual atoms attract each other through something like magnetism?

    • @falconbanshee
      @falconbanshee 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn Pretty much, actually.

    • @luizp07
      @luizp07 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn i belive it has more to do with the nature of the atom to always try to stabilize(by having 8 electrons on the last layer), however, some molecules form through magnectic attraction.

    • @HanMasho
      @HanMasho 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +azsxdcfvgbhnjmh It is electromagnetism that causes molecules to bond together to form different compounds so using magnets is a great way to help students visualize and get a feel for what's going on at the molecular scale.

    • @R0DGES
      @R0DGES 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn A basic model of a covalent bond is the two positive nuclei with two negative electrons in between, they are attracted by the electrostatic force. This goes further but that would be the whole of chemistry :)

    • @ilostmypie
      @ilostmypie 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +azsxdcfvgbhnjmhn Not magnetism, but electronic attractive (and repulsive) forces.
      More like static and a balloon. But more complicated.

  • @Jibily1
    @Jibily1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not a science professional or science anything, really. But I have a passion for science, and a passion for education. Seeing this made me so happy. I go to school full time, but I have some extra money every now and then, so I put in $10. If I had more, I would pledge more. I hope you reach all of your stretch goals. This is an amazing idea. And if it catches on I am sure you'll make it even more amazing. Snatoms 2.0 will probably be a killer product. Multi-bonds and more atoms. Imagine the possibilities!

  • @chillsahoy2640
    @chillsahoy2640 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope this gets funded properly and fully! It's a fantastic idea and it deserves all the money people can afford to give it.

  • @zephyrsimon
    @zephyrsimon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is good for organic chemistry, but what about inorganics?

  • @adityarao3589
    @adityarao3589 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is soo much better to understand chemistry than staring at the black board at school...

  • @austinfahrenheit3191
    @austinfahrenheit3191 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love how the kid's just making dogs at 3:02

    • @aapjeaaron
      @aapjeaaron 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, dog. totally not alcohol.

    • @MilanMilan0000
      @MilanMilan0000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      "maybe if i make enugh alcohol molecules, i'll get some beer!"

    • @adfasfuiuiui1056
      @adfasfuiuiui1056 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Propane.

    • @saltyman7888
      @saltyman7888 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes. definitely dogs. hair of the dog.

  • @shawnnoyes2776
    @shawnnoyes2776 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it! Right before Christmas may not have been the ideal time to launch this, but I shared this with my Chemistry-centric friends, and pledged $42 for the original kit. I am looking forward to playing with these with my kids in the years to come (they are 2.5 years, and 3.5 months old now, so I'll have to wait a little while)!
    -Shawn

  • @beakz
    @beakz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Backed on Kickstarter. This will be great for my two boys when they're a little older. Am glad to be in at the start. A great idea for teaching the basics.

  • @MilanMilan0000
    @MilanMilan0000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would totally LOVE to have the expansion pack, but its to expensive!! D,:

  • @DavidWeijzen
    @DavidWeijzen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    42 dollars is a lot for me. it's pritty overpriced for a indevidual like me but for schools it's awesome.

    • @jeranichols2002
      @jeranichols2002 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try and find, or get 1 dollar a day for 42 days!

    • @TARS..
      @TARS.. 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jera Nichols thats a good way to think

    • @andrewtripoli5161
      @andrewtripoli5161 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but the o ther types of models can cost upwards of $150

    • @forder4751
      @forder4751 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude just get molymods. They’re very good for the small price man

  • @daphnea5447
    @daphnea5447 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this! This seems fun to have and show/give to my teachers. By the way, so the people screamin' about double/triple bonds, he's only been working on the product for a short time! It's not even being sold yet!! It's still in development!!! Calm yourselves, and enjoy this wonderful idea. I love it.

  • @Allendoesntlift
    @Allendoesntlift 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a cool and smart invention. These are much better than the old ones because you can take them apart and put it back together. They also seem very fun. These represent way better than the old types. Good Job!

  • @normskilight
    @normskilight 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats some of the best stretch goals I've ever heard. Actual added value. perfect.

  • @ts552
    @ts552 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    we love you & your ideas man seriously you are doing one of the best contribution to education of science... I personally feed sorry for not having a wage & not being able to financially support this... I guess at this point the best I can do is to spread your channel among everyone I meet...

  • @guidofreire9530
    @guidofreire9530 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This idea is nuts! Every school in the world should teach with this as it has a great hands-on approach than modelling clay and bamboo sticks cannot give you. I would defenitely buy this. Cant wait to see them in the shopping!

  • @ozskeeter
    @ozskeeter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My own KS kit arrived today ... simply amazing ! Thank you for designing and making available to us.

    • @mdburghs
      @mdburghs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you received your snatoms kit? We have yet to receive ours... :(

    • @ozskeeter
      @ozskeeter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark Brandenburgh yep, my full order of Kickstarter Snatoms arrived in Australia

    • @mdburghs
      @mdburghs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Maybe it's a "this side of the world" thing. Are they cool?

    • @ozskeeter
      @ozskeeter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark Brandenburgh my opinion ... they are fantastic. I wish they were around when I was learning chemistry. My 4 yo grandson loves them ... makes animals and spaceships with them!

  • @joemonster55
    @joemonster55 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In under 12 hours you have more than doubled your goal. Way to go Derek!

  • @sw00natra
    @sw00natra 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    TAKE MY MONEY! One day and already more than double the initial goal. This community is awesome! Every science class should have Snatoms!

  • @maherf768
    @maherf768 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in a place where we don't have any online payment method ... Syria
    and I want to contribute so bad, this channel is one of my favorites and all I can offer is a lousy Thank you and good luck :/

  • @rodriguezangel62
    @rodriguezangel62 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Veritasium , Awsome idea. As a high school senior that now understands Chemistry basics a bit more I can say that this would have been a huge help back in 6 the grade me. Stick with it. Just an idea, if you make more elements from the table, you will be attracting high-schools as well as Gradeschools

  • @tobylister8221
    @tobylister8221 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Snatoms kit came yesterday, it has been nonstop fun since the second I opened the box. I really hope an app is developed.

  • @psynostic
    @psynostic 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Hank Green interview got me into Veritasium. I just completed Organic Chemistry with the wonder if it would be possible to create magnetic models instead of stick models. I must have learned something from you, because I'm catching up on your thought process. Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @cidshroom
    @cidshroom 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just checked out your kickstarter and was happy to see this
    "$144,171 pledged of $42,000 goal"
    Very excited to see an entire snatom universe!

  • @donronny16
    @donronny16 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very plausible idea for building the foundation of organic chemistry to kids! Double bonds/Triple bonds/Free electrons/Conjugate bonds etc. are not yet explained using snatoms but still this has a great potential in future. Veritasium (Derek) phenomenal job! :)

  • @liamshaw666
    @liamshaw666 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Veritasium. I've donated some money to your kickstater! I hope this takes off and you can introduce more elements to your kit. This would be perfect for schools in helping to understand to kids on how chemicals are formed. I would have loved somehthing like this growing up so I hope this does get to the target in order for the next generation to develop into the best scientists. All the best and when it does come on the market I will be buying this for my kids!

  • @kasperholck5928
    @kasperholck5928 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy damn this is great, why didn't anyone think of this before? Thumbs Up for the good work, couldn't live without this channel!

  • @ixnine
    @ixnine 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Payday is tomorrow and my funds are going to this Kickstarter! This idea is brilliant! Thanks, Derek!

  • @Naratis
    @Naratis 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is actually a great app being designed right now, that my school had the chance of trying in early development. It teaches students how atoms are made, how the protons relate to the neutrons and to the electrons, the amount you need per shell, uses a quantum based model to show electrons in shells and so much more, such as covalent bonding and how atoms bond by charge. This app was amazingly fun and hands on and helped the class learn about and understand the atoms further.

  • @cameronsmith632
    @cameronsmith632 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Initially I thought, "Isn't this just a Moly-Mod kit?" But using magnets is actually a much better idea.
    This is espcially true given that it is the same fundamental force that bonds the atoms together that also holds the representations together - the electromagnetic force. There are obviously some hurdles to overcome like in an oxygen molecule, two bonds are made, and this would be difficult to represent. This definitely seems like a brilliant idea though, the teaching example you gave of bonds needing energy to be broken and giving out energy when they're made is represented much better with this as opposed to Moly-Mod kits or similar stick-bonded stuff. This will go far Derek, well done.

  • @Calpurnia917
    @Calpurnia917 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Financially, I can't support the Kickstarter account, but I wanted to give my support to your project. Having taught science on a junior high level, this modeling kit would have been a much better demonstration of molecular bonding then the kit we used. Keep up the good work and I look forward to getting my hands on a kit when the time comes. Peace be with you

  • @potatoman7895
    @potatoman7895 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    just last week we watched one of your videos I science class. I think it was "Misconceptions About Temperature." So many people in my class understood it. I think if we had a few sets of Snatoms, the learning experience. would have been far greater.

  • @mathew-x7f
    @mathew-x7f 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think every school should have these !!! Keep up the good work. Love your videos!!!

  • @georginabw6571
    @georginabw6571 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is a brilliant idea especially for schools and tutor groups !!! 100% supportive

  • @Air-Taxi
    @Air-Taxi 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey VE!! I'm a big fan and have been for a while. I absolutely love physics, chemistry and all types of science. Ur videos have been so interesting and taught me so much so thank you. I actually used some of the things I learned here and stunned people in the street and other places☺. Keep up the good work, your doing great!

  • @josephshaffer8218
    @josephshaffer8218 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant idea! This will end up being a million, if not multimillion dollar product. I can definitely see these being the new "norm" in the chemistry classroom across the country, if not the entire globe. I wish I would have thought of it! I can't get over how clever the magnetic coupling being a representation of the atomic bond it's genius!

    • @josephshaffer8218
      @josephshaffer8218 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      To clarify, by the new "norm" I do not mean replace the standard model. I mean it will be normal to see these in every classroom worldwide along with the current model which allows for single/double/triple bonds being able to be visibly demonstrated.

  • @李愚-f7j
    @李愚-f7j 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that is really a GREAT IEDA, i am a fresh undergraduate who struggling with organic chem , looking forward ,you always bring surprise!!

  • @llarejayll
    @llarejayll 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Allied Health Major and student of the sciences, this would be perfect for me in my chem class right now. After learning the foundations of dimensional analysis and conversion factors and equations, we will start the next section which will be the concepts of atoms and molecules in the few weeks to come. I am soo tempted to buy a personal set yet with a student budget but maybe in the near future. But I can gaurantee to bring more awareness to this campaign as this will benefit many scholars!

  • @L0rdSuNdAy
    @L0rdSuNdAy 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow so much funding already, great job Derek I have to say that the project sounds awesome and who knows maybe they'll be in every school in 5 years because the way the funding is going it looks like it not out of the realms of possibility!!!

  • @michaelstiemke1346
    @michaelstiemke1346 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep working on this idea it's grate and innovative.I'm sure teachers and kids around the world will love it too

  • @leninheads
    @leninheads 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coooool. I love this idea. I think it will help many people learn how amazing chemistry is. I think that the idea of magnetism is great because it is more realistic. I'm all for this!

  • @LaOliveJayne
    @LaOliveJayne 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be amazing to model Bowen's reaction series and how the complexity of the silica molecule changes as it progresses through the series. The entire idea is amazing!

  • @markalvarado7884
    @markalvarado7884 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im studying atoms right now in 8th grade and im having a really hard time understanding it. This is genius and i really wish my teacher would just take out a box and pull these out. Veritasium, you've done it again!

  • @OnlyinMiamiFlorida
    @OnlyinMiamiFlorida 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    No app yet! These are amazing! Keep it going!

  • @jordansmith2520
    @jordansmith2520 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this is awesome. I'm really glad the kickstarter campaign is going so well and I hope that continues. I really hope this is adopted by the education systems so that students can more easily understand molecules. Thumbs up from me.

  • @foxfff123123
    @foxfff123123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing. This could make chemistry so much more appealing to kids from a younger age

  • @BrowserTheWhippet
    @BrowserTheWhippet 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've shared your video on my Google + page and a few people have shared it from me. I hope it helps you raise enough money!

  • @KavLal
    @KavLal 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am 100% for this!! Great work Derrick

  • @robkuijer9273
    @robkuijer9273 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great initiative! Let me know when you get this to work for silicate crystal structures. There is a lot more of those on this planet than there are glucose molecules.

  • @ishwar8119
    @ishwar8119 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    520,000 bucks goddamn this thing is epic! Derek,I hope it reaches a million dollars!! This would be a lot of cool ideas possible!

  • @islandnatalia
    @islandnatalia 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our family is excited to fund this and we hope to do that soon. Slight bit of feedback: please make it clear that Kickstarter only shows payment in US funds. This would be a helpful tidbit at the point of payment and at the point of declined credit card. Love your Snatom idea! xo

  • @jo94127
    @jo94127 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This should be something for my chemistry class ,because we have like paper pieces in colors that represents the atoms. So this should be a awesome project. Great Thinking Keep up the good work!!!

  • @proamateur64
    @proamateur64 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    A wonderful idea for introductory chemistry. I hope you'll come up with a way to show double and triple bonds.

  • @dominicsauve9915
    @dominicsauve9915 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You ask two things I don't have. Money and friends. But I think this is a great idea, and knowing you from your videos, I sincerely hope you make it big with this product.