I actually appreciate people that put out videos that show the other side of the coin. It helps make us at home feel somewhat better when things don't go exactly to plan.
The only real issue is the reflow is a hit or miss solution. Most times it’s a temporary fix, a reball is a more solid fix but can be spends and time consuming. Been there with lots of Xbox 360 units.
About that right to repair law, one reason it's so important for this to change is because "disposability" of electronics like these 2DS units will keep ending up in landfills contaminating our environment. Yeah you can say recycle them but that takes effort & doesn't always happen.
Maybe a follow up video using a working board to measure and compare readings between the two? Swapping components also? It would be interesting to see your approach to this type of troubleshooting.
I would consider investing in tools & equipment that allow you to diagnose issues further. A high quality thermal cam and voltage injection could quickly pinpoint "no start" issues like this. Alex at Northridge Fix does this all of the time with great success.
This is a great video regardless of success on the repair. The content is what matters. The troubleshooting process and the attempts is what’s important.
This channell should have at least five times as many subscribers such good content deserves great things for Steve one of the greatest you tubers around love the channell Steve.
I used to work tier 1 tech support and these videos when you’re not able to repair the thing reminds me of escalating a problem to a dev thinking it’s a bug and them confirming that it is one
Nice try! But, I do believe it's important to show that even some of the most seasoned techs can't fix everything. Good video Steve! You'll get the next one
I too sat reminiscing about the old days. When times were easier. People were happier. Tronicsfix was busy fixing it until it was broken - just like today..
As far as I'm aware, the 2DS needs the top assembly to boot, right? Or is that only the 3DS? A common symptom of non-booting 3DSs is a broken speaker flex cable. Not sure if the 2DS is the same.
This is a great video Mr. Porter. Most TH-cam channels only show their success with audience and obviously someone with a lot of experiences like you make things look easy on their videos so enthusiasts might think repairing stuff is easy, fast and always successful which is far from truth and it might lead to losses due to buying broken stuff with the intention of fixing them...
I for one really appreciate highly skilled people showing that it does not always go as planned. It makes us regular people not feel as incompetent. :D
Great video as usual! I was hoping for another game console repair. Total bummer how it turned out, but that’s how it goes sometimes. Loved your effort!
I think there is still more that could be done here. Maybe you did more testing and didn't show it. But I would definitely check the caps around the chips to see if any of them are shorting to ground. If they are, it's probably the chip. You can hook up a power supply at 3.7V to the battery connector and see how many amps it draws. If it passively draws >0.5A there's a short on the main power rail that should be easy enough to track down. Just some ideas.
What a bummer, nice job trying though. We really need to get RTR in effect soon so that people like you can repair an otherwise unrepairable console/handheld.
If I have to clean a board like this one I use Isopropyl Solvent and an old electric toothbrush, It seems to work ok so far, I have not knocked or damaged anything.
2ds xl's are very delicate as it seems, sometimes ago I fixed a bunch of dsi xl's I got in a job lot, and I managed to fix almost all of them, and 2 of them had the exact faults as those 2, in my case, it was blown fuses and in one the charging circuit traces where damaged, and another one was liquid damaged, altough I did manage to clean it and it worked (and still does), I am sure you already did that but, have you checked the fuses on those? Sometimes they can cause a charging but no power, other times (with the ds lite it was common) if the board was slightly bent it also produces this issue.
I thank you so much for these videos they are always entertaining and I have learned so much! I just did a full motherboard replacement on a 2ds a week ago it works great now! I have now fixed over 7 game consoles! Thank you so much for all I have learned. 😁
I have a broken nintendo switch. The part that the battery connects to is snapped. I'm not that great at soldering. Is there anyway I can get you to fix it? Me and my kids would appreciate it a ton.
I have ps3 super slim when plugged in it shows the red light and after some time it turns on by it self with no display or power to disk drive I would like some advice
if i remember correctly the nintendo ds has an selfcheck before starting up. maybe this has an selfcheck and its failing thats maybe why its not starting up because it cant get a reading from the screen or from the other components. maybe you could check
I left my $250 launch day 3ds in the yard, it was rained on for about 4 hours. When I got it back inside the house I removed the battery. and left a heater blowing on it far a couple of days. reassembled and it worked fine for years, but now the "a" button is intermittent. all in all I'll take the win.
Probably just needs cleaned and it'll be fine. Pro-tip, if your devices ever get wet unless it's glued shut, take it apart and pour IPA over it, also preferably use a toothbrush or Qtip and gently scrub it, the IPA will run the water off the board and rubbing it will remove any dirt/minerals left from the water then you can blow it with some compressed air and it'll be completely dry in a few minutes.
Great work! I hope there are diagrams there in future which help to make work easy Also, you can try voltage injection tool, which tells you where short is coming from.
I’m in the UK and unfortunately we don’t have right to repair either. Looking forward to the USA passing the law as it’ll make schematics and parts available to us as well. I’m sure they will try and geolock it down but there is always a way around that. So sick of this throw away culture. The amount of ewaste is sickening.
This may be a bit unrelated but I was fixing my 3ds and I broke off the battery connector so I soldered the battery directly to the pads with wires and it wouldn’t work with just the positive and negative terminals attached, the middle one had to be connected as well, and from what I remember it acted the same way these are with the middle terminal disconnected, but this was a while ago so I could be mistaken.
Yes battery tools tend to do the same thing, they want to know the temperature, an easy bypass is to wire a 10k or 4.7k resistor from positive or negative to the temp pin, very handy if you ever want to mod your own batteries in something.
I have a ps4 controller that won't connect to my ps4 at all, I tried every resetting technique but nothing works. When I plug it in with the USB the orange light flashes once then turns off. Have an idea on what the problem could be?
Don’t apologize for showing the real deal! Those of us who try to repair broken stuff know how it goes… you win some, you lose some. And quite often, the game is rigged… that’s why right to repair is a fight worth backing.
Although it's a pity you couldn't turn broken consoles into working consoles this time, but it was still jolly good content for the channel. Plus I'm sure all of your viewers appreciate your honesty in showing that sometimes you simply can't fix electronics without more resources at your disposal.
what to do when u stumble upon a tight screw? i tried to open my 3ds to glue down a one of the ribbon cable, but couldnt even open it when i came across a screw that wont budge...
Hi Tronicsfix I love your videos they sure put a huge smile on my face when I’m upset. But what is your eBay cause my mom was gonna get my little brother a ps4 slim.
Have you seen this new xbox possible ssd adapter to use 3rd party ssds with the console? Are you going to do a video on it? Like to see your in depth take on it
what are your thoughts on doing analog signature analysis on your troubleshooting? you have a lot of known goods and you can make reference signature database for game systems you attempt to fix.
Steve, have you tried removing each lead/ribbon/connector on a known working console to see if any are required for it to power on? Not sure if it's needing a completed circuit or something. E.G. remove screen ribbon, see if working, continue until fail.
I know we all hate failures but I think it's important to show that you show not everything is fixable and we can learn from them and make a push for right to repair laws to make fixing things more accessible
Excuse me Mr. Steve, I have a regular 3DS console, the lower screen has on its corner a yellow spot, it bothers me, because the rest of the screen seems normal, What could it be? Should I replace the whole screen?
I actually appreciate people that put out videos that show the other side of the coin. It helps make us at home feel somewhat better when things don't go exactly to plan.
It’s a totally bummer when that happens, I have learned a lot and still learning from you Mr. Steve Sir I really enjoy your videos
Thanks 👍
Right to Repair: TronicsFix joins the battle!
Just for the sake of reducing e-waste right to repair should just be mandatory in every part of the world.
Really great effort and explanation! Thanks for showing us all how the diagnosis goes and how it can end up sometimes when you go to fix things.
The only real issue is the reflow is a hit or miss solution. Most times it’s a temporary fix, a reball is a more solid fix but can be spends and time consuming. Been there with lots of Xbox 360 units.
About that right to repair law, one reason it's so important for this to change is because "disposability" of electronics like these 2DS units will keep ending up in landfills contaminating our environment. Yeah you can say recycle them but that takes effort & doesn't always happen.
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. In that order
Maybe a follow up video using a working board to measure and compare readings between the two? Swapping components also? It would be interesting to see your approach to this type of troubleshooting.
You just keep pumping these VIDS out! Love the passion keep it up brotha.
Once a week for the last several years! Good thing I enjoy it most days!
@@Tronicsfix is it your full job or do you have another job?
I would consider investing in tools & equipment that allow you to diagnose issues further. A high quality thermal cam and voltage injection could quickly pinpoint "no start" issues like this. Alex at Northridge Fix does this all of the time with great success.
He has those tools. He probably just isn't familiar with this particular system
I was thinking similarly, a FLIR cam could quickly point out an overheating/shorted component.
I came to the comments to tell him to try a thermal camera if he doesn't already have one. Good job.
Unlucky Steve, it will just make the next fix feel amazing! Very well explained also 😁👍
steve, reflowing, and re-soldering chips
meanwhile, --me watching ... reflowing soda's and juices on my tummy and eating potato chips XD
Hope we see a re-visit, sad seeing them stay broken. Great video though
It's so satisfying to watch things being repaired. Found you on Facebook. And I subbed as well. Hope you get 1 million.
This is a great video regardless of success on the repair. The content is what matters. The troubleshooting process and the attempts is what’s important.
Love your videos, Steve! Your channel is an automatic go-to every Friday to see what's new!
Glad you like them!
I love when you do any sort of 3ds or ds!
This channell should have at least five times as many subscribers such good content deserves great things for Steve one of the greatest you tubers around love the channell Steve.
Wow, thank you!
I hardly know anything about fixing consoles but damn is it interesting to see
So glad you enjoy my vids!
Thanks for showing both your successes and failures, and for inspiring me to make my own videos!
I used to work tier 1 tech support and these videos when you’re not able to repair the thing reminds me of escalating a problem to a dev thinking it’s a bug and them confirming that it is one
I like it that you show the fixes where you failed.
Also it adds a little narrative tension if you don't know that it will be fixed during the video.
You should use your influence to push for right to repair more aggressively
Lol...you'll like what I have coming up!
@@Tronicsfix 👍
I love that you frequently bring up the lack of Right to Repair laws when it stymies you.
Plz try to short the power button contacts ...may be the power buttons are broken..
Nice try! But, I do believe it's important to show that even some of the most seasoned techs can't fix everything. Good video Steve! You'll get the next one
this feels nostalgic
I too sat reminiscing about the old days. When times were easier. People were happier. Tronicsfix was busy fixing it until it was broken - just like today..
As far as I'm aware, the 2DS needs the top assembly to boot, right? Or is that only the 3DS? A common symptom of non-booting 3DSs is a broken speaker flex cable. Not sure if the 2DS is the same.
nah he said the blue light would flash on the 2ds xl even if it isnt fully assembled
This is a great video Mr. Porter. Most TH-cam channels only show their success with audience and obviously someone with a lot of experiences like you make things look easy on their videos so enthusiasts might think repairing stuff is easy, fast and always successful which is far from truth and it might lead to losses due to buying broken stuff with the intention of fixing them...
Drat. I still learned a lot about how to open a New 2DS XL if I should ever need to open mine. 😃
Love you mono Steve. "Fix it until it's completely broken
I for one really appreciate highly skilled people showing that it does not always go as planned. It makes us regular people not feel as incompetent. :D
Great video as usual! I was hoping for another game console repair. Total bummer how it turned out, but that’s how it goes sometimes. Loved your effort!
I love how actually show us how to fix it
I can watch this channel for hours, keek up the good work !!
just ordered the iFixit Pro Tech Toolkit
Yo I love your content I’ve been watching your channel for two years now, keep up :)
Nice repair attempt. Right to Repair is the single most important issue for ALL electronic consumers of the 21st Century!
Love to see you do some old ps2s and other things man. Love your work
He is so smart! Can fix almost anything. Awesome! Thank you Tim😁
I thought his name was Steve
@@WoobyMe yes, i know his name is Steve, i said he to refer to him. 😁😁
we appreciate the effort you put trying to fix it :)
A network of people taking voltage and signal measurments on working devices would be a great help.
While not a victory, I still really enjoyed the video. I always have respect for the fact you show the ones that don't always work out.
The nonchalant way Steve says "Imma reflow these chips" these words bring fear into my heart and he is like mehhhhhh...
Better luck next time, my friend! Keep going!
I think it could be, even though the battery is charging, but it may have a problem that it has to make it not start.
Bugger you couldn't get them working but a cracking effort nonetheless! 😊
That suck....be nice to see 1 work....well here to help get your videos out to everyone 😀 😉
I think there is still more that could be done here. Maybe you did more testing and didn't show it. But I would definitely check the caps around the chips to see if any of them are shorting to ground. If they are, it's probably the chip. You can hook up a power supply at 3.7V to the battery connector and see how many amps it draws. If it passively draws >0.5A there's a short on the main power rail that should be easy enough to track down. Just some ideas.
What a bummer, nice job trying though. We really need to get RTR in effect soon so that people like you can repair an otherwise unrepairable console/handheld.
I don't know what is it with your videos they just pull me in.
Love to hear that!
My lunch break just went into awesome mode!!!!! Yes!!!!! Will it be fixed?!?!?!?!
Send it to my mate vince 😄 let him give a go at it
Even if you don't succeed in fixing the devices, the video still holds a lot of educational value!
If I have to clean a board like this one I use Isopropyl Solvent and an old electric toothbrush, It seems to work ok so far, I have not knocked or damaged anything.
As always, awesome videos! greetings from Mexico!
2ds xl's are very delicate as it seems, sometimes ago I fixed a bunch of dsi xl's I got in a job lot, and I managed to fix almost all of them, and 2 of them had the exact faults as those 2, in my case, it was blown fuses and in one the charging circuit traces where damaged, and another one was liquid damaged, altough I did manage to clean it and it worked (and still does), I am sure you already did that but, have you checked the fuses on those? Sometimes they can cause a charging but no power, other times (with the ds lite it was common) if the board was slightly bent it also produces this issue.
I thank you so much for these videos they are always entertaining and I have learned so much! I just did a full motherboard replacement on a 2ds a week ago it works great now! I have now fixed over 7 game consoles! Thank you so much for all I have learned. 😁
Nice try to repair those 2DS Steve.
Tropics congrats on almost getting 1mill subs you deserve it :)
I love the 3ds so much. Such an underappreciated console!
We need right to repair and we need it yesterday!
I have a broken nintendo switch. The part that the battery connects to is snapped. I'm not that great at soldering. Is there anyway I can get you to fix it? Me and my kids would appreciate it a ton.
Unfortunately, I don't offer repair services but I recommend shanefix.com
Hi Goblin! This is something I do myself and would be happy to help get this done for you ASAP.
I have ps3 super slim when plugged in it shows the red light and after some time it turns on by it self with no display or power to disk drive I would like some advice
@@konsolemend how much would it cost to fix and replace a nintendo switch lite usb type c charger?
Didn't see that you checked the broken cap for short. Fractured MLCC can lead to short circuit
Your videos are just as good whether you fix them or not
Do people play these consoles while taking a bath!
if i remember correctly the nintendo ds has an selfcheck before starting up. maybe this has an selfcheck and its failing thats maybe why its not starting up because it cant get a reading from the screen or from the other components. maybe you could check
Good effort Steve! Ya can't fix em all but youll get the next one.
I've been waiting for you to upload! Lol! I'm gonna buy one and try to fix it.
Thanks for watching!
@@Tronicsfix thanks for working hard to post and bringing me some intellectual entertainment!
Can't wait for the sequel when you fix them both!
I left my $250 launch day 3ds in the yard, it was rained on for about 4 hours. When I got it back inside the house I removed the battery. and left a heater blowing on it far a couple of days. reassembled and it worked fine for years, but now the "a" button is intermittent. all in all I'll take the win.
Probably just needs cleaned and it'll be fine.
Pro-tip, if your devices ever get wet unless it's glued shut, take it apart and pour IPA over it, also preferably use a toothbrush or Qtip and gently scrub it, the IPA will run the water off the board and rubbing it will remove any dirt/minerals left from the water then you can blow it with some compressed air and it'll be completely dry in a few minutes.
Plot twist: it's just a broken blue LED light, the boards actually powered on fine.
The tiniest lightbulb change!
Great work!
I hope there are diagrams there in future which help to make work easy
Also, you can try voltage injection tool, which tells you where short is coming from.
I’m in the UK and unfortunately we don’t have right to repair either. Looking forward to the USA passing the law as it’ll make schematics and parts available to us as well. I’m sure they will try and geolock it down but there is always a way around that. So sick of this throw away culture. The amount of ewaste is sickening.
I've got 2 of the 2ds that are like new I enjoy them more then I did when I bought them for my son and I 5 yrs ago.
This may be a bit unrelated but I was fixing my 3ds and I broke off the battery connector so I soldered the battery directly to the pads with wires and it wouldn’t work with just the positive and negative terminals attached, the middle one had to be connected as well, and from what I remember it acted the same way these are with the middle terminal disconnected, but this was a while ago so I could be mistaken.
Yes battery tools tend to do the same thing, they want to know the temperature, an easy bypass is to wire a 10k or 4.7k resistor from positive or negative to the temp pin, very handy if you ever want to mod your own batteries in something.
Same here, I had problem with a New 2DS XL, tried to fixed it for days, no luck, and it is impossible to find some parts for it.
I recently threw a 3DSXL into the bin because I'd not used it in years and when I did a battery check it was bulging. Should have sent it to you. :)
Thats a bad sign. I strongly recommend you properly dipose of that battery
Noooooo...it could have been saved!
I think you should have held down the button and then let it rest for a couple seconds and then turned it back on and see if that worked.
Good job, but you should check shortage on capacitors. Check voltage, does it go through the chips etc. Just try once again :)
Thank you so much for doing these! Im trying to get a 2ds XL and all i can see (thats not drastically price inflated) are broken :(
back wit it
Great like always Steve
Glad you enjoy them!
I will always give a thumbs-up for right to repair videos!
I have a ps4 controller that won't connect to my ps4 at all, I tried every resetting technique but nothing works. When I plug it in with the USB the orange light flashes once then turns off. Have an idea on what the problem could be?
Don’t apologize for showing the real deal! Those of us who try to repair broken stuff know how it goes… you win some, you lose some. And quite often, the game is rigged… that’s why right to repair is a fight worth backing.
Although it's a pity you couldn't turn broken consoles into working consoles this time, but it was still jolly good content for the channel. Plus I'm sure all of your viewers appreciate your honesty in showing that sometimes you simply can't fix electronics without more resources at your disposal.
better to try and fail than to not try at all
what to do when u stumble upon a tight screw? i tried to open my 3ds to glue down a one of the ribbon cable, but couldnt even open it when i came across a screw that wont budge...
Give them the right to repair!
Hi Tronicsfix I love your videos they sure put a huge smile on my face when I’m upset. But what is your eBay cause my mom was gonna get my little brother a ps4 slim.
Test it again with the screen connected
Couldn't you check for shorted components or use the thermal imaging camera like you have done in Xbox videos?
Have you seen this new xbox possible ssd adapter to use 3rd party ssds with the console? Are you going to do a video on it? Like to see your in depth take on it
Nice video
Thanks
what are your thoughts on doing analog signature analysis on your troubleshooting? you have a lot of known goods and you can make reference signature database for game systems you attempt to fix.
Steve, have you tried removing each lead/ribbon/connector on a known working console to see if any are required for it to power on? Not sure if it's needing a completed circuit or something.
E.G. remove screen ribbon, see if working, continue until fail.
IIRC, the original DS required the top assembly, hence why you need to solder an extra component to convert one into a GB-Macro
I know we all hate failures but I think it's important to show that you show not everything is fixable and we can learn from them and make a push for right to repair laws to make fixing things more accessible
Why not use a thermal camera to check any power shortages?
I am curious.
Do you ever have to watch your video to figure out how to re-assemble some of the units that you don't see very often?
Not yet!
@@Tronicsfix I have to do that with still images sometimes if the repair takes more than a few hours and I get side tracked:)
Excuse me Mr. Steve, I have a regular 3DS console, the lower screen has on its corner a yellow spot, it bothers me, because the rest of the screen seems normal, What could it be? Should I replace the whole screen?
Maybe the power button itself is broken on the 1st one?