The Dangers of REIT Investing: 3 MUST KNOWS Before Investing in Real Estate Investment Trusts!
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- In this video, I discuss the dangers of investing in REITs and what you MUST know about REITs! Check out my Instagram (nickpeitschinvesting): bit.ly/3fkByXC
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In this video, I discuss the dangers of REIT investing and the 3 things you need to know about REITs before you invest! REITs, otherwise known as Real Estate Investment Trusts, can be a great alternative investment to buying real estate. You don't need a down payment, you don't have to deal with tenants, and you can earn passive income through investing in REITs. Furthermore, REITs are excellent dividend paying stocks and actually have very high dividend yields! However, there are several concerns I have with buying REIT stocks that investors MUST understand before investing into REITs, which I'll be discussing in this video.
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Do you own any REITs in your portfolio? Let me know!
Is O stock a REIT? If so, then I own that one haha
I own EPR , SPG
3500 macerich stocks
Yeah it's a great one!
@@NickPeitsch cool!
Every crash/collapse brings with it an equivalent market chance if you are early informed and equipped, I've seen folks amass up to $1m amid economy crisis, and even pull it off easily in favorable conditions. Unequivocally, the collapse is getting somebody somewhere rich.
I do not disagree, there are strategies that could be put in place for solid gains regardless of economy or market condition, but such execution are usually carried out by investment experts with experience since the 08' crash
The issue is people have the "I want to do it myself mentality" but not equipped enough for a crash, hence get burnt. Ideally, advisors are reps for investing jobs, and at first-hand encounter, my portfolio has yielded over 300% since 2020 just after the pandemic to date.
i'm blown away! mind sharing more info please? i am a young adult living in Miami where i've encountered several millionaires, and my goal is to become one as well.
NICOLE ANASTASIA PLUMLEE' is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I just curiously searched her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon. Thank you
Housing crisis, health crisis, cost of living crisis, debt crisis, inflation crisis, middle East crisis. How many crises can a koala bear? I'm approaching retirement with comfortable millions, yet scared of a market crisis and how to benefit from a possible correction. Where do I best grow my money?
Diversify… T bills, CDs, Gold, dividend stocks, Municipal bonds, Bitcoin, Real estate, etc assets speak when cash has no value
I would advise the counsel of a seasoned financial pro. It may be expensive, but as the old saying goes "You get what you pay for." "Expert solutions require Expert providers" - my mantra
Truth is, investing with the help of a financial advisor set me up for life, retired as a millionaire at 55. I worked hard everyday as a teacher for 32 years, and my salary was over 100k annually. But if it wasn't for 2020 covid lockdown, I wouldn't have supplemented my income with stocks and alternative investments.
bravo! I've worked in real estate for over 25 years and have neglected a major stock portfolio, however I need a different plan now... mind if I look up the professional guiding you please?
Melissa Elise Robinson is the licensed advisor I use. Just google the name and you’d find necessary deets. To be honest, I almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, But so glad I did.
Real Estate provides cashflow, tax benefits, equity building, competitive risk-adjusted returns, and inflation protection on its own. Whether you invest in physical properties or REITs, real estate may help you diversify your portfolio and reduce volatility. Dividends are what got me into investing in REITs, great way to secure the accumulate wealth, I hold AMT, CCI & PSA. $290k in profits made in 2022.
Consistently investing in high quality dividend paying REITs & companies over the long term is a relatively easy strategy to create generational wealth. My "boring" REITs portfolio paid me over $4,000 in dividends last month.
It's time to make high value games! Discounted dividend stocks. Ever grateful to my CFP "Catherine Morrison Evan’’ I now have a six-figure REIT portfolio, which includes, but is not limited to; AMT, SPG & PSA.... I now have 606 shares of AMT which pays dividends of $3800 per year.
I want to play the long term game with well diversified fund. Please how can i reach this CFP of yours?
Most likely, you can run a google search on her name and find her basic information online; you are welcome to do further study.
Thanks for this tip. Her website popped up on the first page immediately I searched her, I read through her resume and it seems pretty tight. So, I dropped a message & hopefully she replies soon.
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family
Hi. I’ve been forced to find additional sources of income as I got retrenched. I barely have time to continue trading and watch my investments since I had my second child. Do you think I should take a break for a while from the market and focus on other things or return whenever I have free time or is it a continuous process? Thanks
@@Donnafrank-k6e However, if you do not have access to a professional like Clementina Abate Russo, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.
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@@Donnafrank-k6e Clementina Abate Russo is her name.
Lookup with her name on the webpage.
The most important risk is management. Make sure to only invest in REITs that have good management teams. Many suffer significant conflicts of interest, especially in Canada. Stay away from REITs that are externally managed, unless they have very high insider ownership. That on its own should help you avoid many losers. I will soon cover some of the REITs to avoid on my channel. Thanks for the great video!
I own a reit with a historic 13% ea in a non taxable account, ecah dividends is reinvested in the reit. Great investment.
Awesome!!
what ticker?
What’s the REIT called?
It is easy to understand the value of reits because the property is regularly independently valued. You can buy reits when the share price is below the Net Tangible Asset value and sell when it is above the NTA. There is also a lot of security that comes from the long leases. And it is a great way to hedge against inflation, and now we are seeing a lot of money printing.
Yes, plus you get paid the distribution while you wait for the NTA to recover to its fair value which it usually does at some point in the cycle. Personally I own some REITS and try to reinvest the distributions in the REIT also so that value of the holding compounds even in the absence of any capital appreciation in the share price.
Thank you for the information. Nice delivery. You have a beautiful smile. I don't have REITs, but I'm thinking about it.
Very important point about the distributions. That's exactly why I only own REITs in a tax-advantaged account
You're doing it right, Pierce!
Pierce Jordan - Personal Finance what you mean by tax advantage account ? You mean HSA or IRA ?
Quick Silver yes!
Pierce Jordan - Personal Finance thank you sir
I’m totally new to this. But what happens if you don’t own a reit in a tax advantages account? Can I transfer them to a tax advantages account?
i don't know what you were going for, but you pretty much just convinced me to invest in reits
Very informative video. First channel I have subscribed to on TH-cam.
Most REITs are at all time lows right now, so I bought a lot of them recently.
Sumit Basnet nice thanks!!
Hey Nick do you agree this is the perfect time to buy into REITs everything seems at its lowest to me
I was literally about to comment, "Does a TFSA protect you from being taxed on REIT dividends/distributions" until 2:38 played lol.
To anyone reading and haven't gotten to this part yet, yes the TFSA will protect you from being taxed on REIT dividends aka distributions.
Informative, Thank you. Subscribed
Great video, people always get blinded by the benefits of an investment ignoring the drawbacks. Thank you for informing us of these.
THANK YOU for SHARING this with the COMMUNITY....................Cheers
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I have several RIETs in my portfolio and I have generally done well with them. But I have also taken my largest loss on any investment when one of the RIETs dropped 75% over the last year. I'm holding on to it for the time being since I think it's over sold. But I know I will never be whole on this investment.
I invested around 5% of my saving in vanguand reits ETF (VRE) and I didn't knew much about reits. Thank you for the information! You have a new subscriber! What do you think about bitcoin? Would you allow a part of your portfolio to bitcoin?
I would have bought bitcoin but I wouldnt buy bitcoin 🤡
You can buy REITS during economic downturns to maximise $ per share. Because reits have very stable values you can clearly pick up a bargain! Be greedy when others are fearful.
4:28 while REITs are required to distribute as dividends 90% of their net income,it means, or at least in our country Phils., the year-end income or the URE, which excludes allocations for payables. This allows a REIT to acquire (in most instances from its sponsor), real properties that cost more than its 10% net income since payments can be done in yearly ammortizations, which are excluded from its net income as payables.
*I own a good amount of REITs. Some lowered their dividends.*
Passive Income Tom nice Tom 👍 great passive income vehicles!
Yea they have been cutting in half like crazy right now
We're keeping our eye on this too... dividends on REITs were always taxed at higher rates (as ordinary income), but that was fine b/c they maintained higher distributions. Now that dividends are being slashed, the calculus is looking a little different 🤔
Remote Ventures hopefully some are stable!
So true but it is a long game Passive Income Tom
I wouldn't call it share dilution if they are raising money to buy more property because the additional shares is offset by the additional value from the property purchased.
4 hour work week, great book! Great video also
Yes! Thank you!
90% distribution rule is only in USA, not in Canada
I'm based in the UK, investing in stocks and REITs, UK-based and US-based & some shares. My US-based stockbroker allows me to invest internationally. Thanks for sharing this info!
Always great to invest in internationally, how passive has this been for you investing from the UK.
Thinking of an investment that can make good passive income, dividend and REITs ain't a bad idea.
@@ryanwickham1707 my portfolio has seen a significant increase over the years investing in the market, my stockbroker Jeff Dakin whose in charge of growing my portfolio has always ensured there are numerous opportunities to diversify my Investments.
@@niyashaasad369 true.
@@markcyrus7898 I have always wanted to own some stocks which would serve as a means of passive income, would be glad if I can be in contact with your broker.
That's very interesting. An excellent informative video.
This is great. I was just thinking about making a video on $O to explain how REIT's work... looks like you (kinda) beat me too it 😬
Rick Daum hey there’s always room for improvement 😜
If I get a Target-Date-Fund Roth IRA will I be able to throw REIT stocks in there on Top of the plan or do i have to switch my TDF plan to an index IRA?
Awesome info man! I am now smarter having watched this
Haha I'm glad to hear it!
Great video. Sensible without a bunch of dramatic hype.
About 80 percent of my networth is in stocks with the rest being in bonds and the value of my house. I plan on retiring young and selling my home to travel the world rather than renting it out. Don't want to deal with the hassle of renting. At the same time I do want to have some ownership of real estate in the US and REITS fit exactly what I'm looking for. So most of the return I get from selling my home will go towards REITS.
That sounds cool! Where you gonna travel?
Investments suck, cause I'm so addicted to them! I'm curious to check out your other videos.
EDIT: Just finished the video, thanks for the info! I've got some REIT investments already, but I must admit this was really helpful.
When you think they will recover to pre covid levels? Taking a while... currently own IVR, TWO and NYMT
Very nice video, thanks!
I just turned 19 and I'm looking into investing into REITs along with other invesments (ROTH IRA, stocks, forex, etc.) and this video was extremely helpful. Thanks for posting! I'd love to hear any advice anyone could provide
Brian Chang awesome 👏 and glad I could help out!
I guess I am missing a key point. Everything I have read about passive income says to invest in REITS as a possible income source. They also say to put REITS into a retirement account or risk losing gains to taxes. How does that help me pay my monthly bills?
Great video. I like my reits for the dividends.
Hey can you help me
Is these are the con’s, I will invest in REIT tomorrow!
I have O and APLE so far, i would like to have DEA too
Good choices!
Hi, Fantastic content! I have created a new REIT portfolio on M1 and I have 11 holdings in it. One of the holdings is VNQ and was wondering if it makes sense to have VNQ with my other REIT stocks.
I know too little of REITs to invest in it myself, but great video Nick! Learned a lot
Zero To Hero Investing glad I could help out!
Very clear explanation, thanks!
Amazing video! Keep it up man! Quick question, talking about REITS do you prefer individuals or ETFS such as VRE, XRE, etc.
Thanks! And for me, I would probably invest in a single company like I do with bank stocks rather than an ETF to possibly see more capital appreciation! :)
Thank you for this explanation.
Such great insights, share buy backs are nearly essential. Right now I like PFE, FMC and CPT. I'm a new TH-camr and if anyone in the comments needs solid stock analysis, I can help. Thank you in advance!
Do you know if REIT'S are taxed differently if owned in an IRA or 401K account in the US? I would assume since its taxed deferred, you just pay the tax for the withdrawal .
I would add, Real estate is a good diversifier and " not correlated " to stocks
I would agree!
Not sure about where you are, but im Australia they are almost 100% correlated to the stock market.
@@GrimTTL Hello, I'm in Canada, but this article explains my initial comment. Correlation between real estate and stock market is around 0.2 to 0.4, which is relatively low. Reason is they can be affected by the same variables, but not at the same time. awealthofcommonsense.com/2018/09/is-real-estate-a-non-correlated-asset-class/
I don't know about Australian real estate, but anyway a diversified REIT will do the trick.
VNQ, O, DEA in my current holdings
Great video! I love reits for (future) income. VNQ, ABR, NRZ, GLPI, LTC, O, IIPR ...all in my portfolio...I might be a little heavy lol
Nice! Just like I’m heavy in banks hahah
Very helpful guidence regarding REITS. Thank you for sharing the video.
Nice video very well spoken, I own atleast a half dozen REITS and live off the dividends I get about 5500 a month after taxes which is a pretty good income I could not get on regular stocks I did not buy them for share value just for the dividends, one of them had lowered the dividend during covid { others did too } when the share price dropped by almost 2/3 rds fortunatley I bought most of my shares in the low point and they are now up by 90% but the dividend has not returned to the pre-covid level even with the share price approaching pre-covid they did raise the perferred back up but common only went up by 3 cents this video seems to offer very possible reasons for it thanks for the insight I have been debating dumping them due to the high share price it would take me a long time to make that kind of money from the dividend alone.
thats my plan too to live off the dividends, by the way, when markets crash will you just add to your REIT position, just buy more? lower the stock price the higher the yield gets.
How much investment do you have to generate that much of cash flow?
@@shrutighughal8171 with a 5.5% yield he has about 800k in Reits
If the REIT sells more shares and immediately buys more real estate, there is not a dilution of shares because more assets are owned at the same time.
Great information! When I learned about REITs my mind was BLOWN at how amazing they are, but those points are very valid.
What if continue to invest those distributions back into buying more shared? How much that'll increase the total amount? Please share numbers if possible, thank you. Amazing video.
REITs are wonderful when your networth and income are still pretty low. Because tax isn't much of an issue there. But once your income is high, stocks could be better for legally reducing taxes.
Do stocks have lower taxes? Is this on a certain law? Sorry I'm pretty new at this :(
Pay your taxes. I rather buy reits and pay taxes
Pay your taxes
Apartments and condo prices falling off the cliff where I live but inflation is sky high
Love the quarantine haircut man! I'm close to shaving it all off myself. Cheers!
Thanks Shane! That should make for an interesting video. Can't wait to see haha. Cheers
I thought he is a cancer patient and that he is in a hospital gown, and was making this video while waiting for treatment.
Then again he might be in a psyche ward.
Evan Erickson , Same here! 🤣 I thought he’s in a hospital gown! Bless his heart!
Thank you for sharing. I learned a lot.
Cheers
Awesome content Rick, i own, NRZ, IVR & RioCan, good to know about the info before investing in REITs, thanks for sharing, thumbs up
Right on!
Excellent video. Very informative 👍
I am waiting for the market to go lower to buy VNQ.
Matilde C Calderon I might as well!
Like your video. Raised out some good point like share dilution and cash flow per share that we need to consider and concern.
Thank you!
Thank you for this useful video! I learned new things about REITs, especially about the concerns that come with those investments.
So glad I came across this video. Thanks for the info!
You got it man!
IVR, GPMT, NYMT, TWO, NRZ, ABR, AHH 💪🏻🐗
1. Dividends susceptible to dividend cut due to 90% payout ratio
2. Share dilution
3. Low or no capital appreciation
FOCUS ON * FUNDS FROM OPERATIONS * PER SHARE
Wow! Great information
Glad it was helpful!
Very well done video. The three concerns for REITs are things I've noticed many new investors (or even some who have invested for years) are unaware of. The issues with taxation and dilution will impact overall returns, and depending on our tax situation, we certainly need to be aware and planning accordingly.
Stock Investment Analysis absolutely! Thanks for dropping by again :)
I am half-way in reading The Intelligent Investor!
You should do a portfolio reveal at this point, think it would be insightful and calm some peoples nerves too :)
David Sitarek I’ve been thinking about it and yeah I might!
Agreed! Would love to see examples of portfolio reveal during this time
So first I have to buy a Roth then fund the Reit through the Roth.
Found your channel, I am looking at investing into REITS because I heard it's a great way to avoid certain taxes. Thanks for creating this video and also love the 4 hour workweek book int he ack ;) just earned my sub and like!
Joy Mae awesome thanks! Glad to have you here 😎
Finally found a Canadian channel about investments 🙌🏾
The Plain Bagel is another investment-focused channel run by a Canadian.
@@philipmcniel4908 I found that channel by accident, I do follow him, but didn't even realize he was also Canadian, thanks!
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If you can pick up a reit at its lowest they are an amazing investment..Buy them in your TFSA.
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! Video starts at 1:42
Jin B. You’re very welcome!
Awesome info!
They like to keep the stock value fixed by dilution. I setup dividend reinvestment. It creates a compounding effect, which is powerful. You then look at total equity you hold, not their stock value.
Great point on the compounding effect
When i invest with reits im not hoping for grwoth. I just enjoy free passive inc. for growth i go with tech stocks. I sometimes swing trade with reits cause i know they go up and down ! Easy money !
Pokiblue Yes. Only thing to watch out with REITs is that they can be get hugely over leveraged and (as the COVID crash showed) can dramatically lose value if there’s instability, even when property values haven’t budged. They’re actually sneaky because they can look very stable for long periods then suddenly tank. Now isn’t a bad time to buy in though, as they’ve been mostly corrected.
@@deraktdar i swing trade some reits looking at the RSi making some good 100$ swing. But yea as the REITs go down i use the dividends to lower down my average cost ! I have 1 swing trade account and 1 account that i never touch except increasing my positions. Im extremely patient and look for those opportunity when it drops, i try to detect a patern and secure a 75% chance swing trade.
What do you mean by "dilution"? Also, what do you mean by then looking at your total equity and not focusing on stock value?
REITs make up a huge chunk of my portfolio that pays out over 10% yearly..but I will use the dividend to buy aristocrats... I just wanted to yeild load so I have cash on hand in case I need it.
Question: what if I’m considering starting an LLC and buying REITs and investing in dividend-paying company stocks? Would that reduce taxes and/or mitigate any of these risks? Great video! 👍
Thank you for this information! I will send it.
I've been studying and looking hard into EPR especially at it's current price. This is a long term game. Everybody wants quick money (which is nice) but at the same time, preparing for the future is a must. With reinvesting your returns and steadily adding more shares you could easily be bringing in 1k/month or more potentially within 10-15 years if you're wise with your money. That does seem like a long time when you say think of it, but for younger people (20-30y.o.) then it will be just in time.
Thank you for your comment
EVO Brand, why did you choose EPR over O or WY? EPR seems vulnerable to pandemics which might be good times for buying into the company. O and WY seem to be pandemic proof, especially since people have to continue paying their rent regardless and what better way to social distance than in a forest.
I've been so surprised how the high dividend funds have been doing. VNQ, SPYD...I thought the high yielding stocks and funds would be doing well but I guess not since they're mostly energy, financials and real estate.
And tech--VIG has been doing amazingly! Opposite of what I thought.
Right? Totally opposite to my thoughts going into the next recession. Thought the most overvalued tech companies would take a beating. Guess it all comes down to strongest balance sheets and "at-home" functionality of these companies.
Most REITs raise funds by having Dividend Reinvestment Plans. So on the point of share dilution he isn't entirely correct. Any listed company will have share dilution by issuing new stock, not just REITs.
I own REITs in my Roth IRA and nearly everything else in regular accounts. Valid points about payouts. I don't own REIT ETFs though, All individual REITs. Investing in the right REITs makes sure the shares don't get unjustifiably diluted. Issuing equity for projects with a good cap rate and scheduled rent increases will result in great growth all around. If equity is instead used for projects with flat returns over time then it can be very harmful to shareholders.
wish I saw this before I bought a bunch of reits...
Peter Hsu they are still solid investments, but just some things to be aware of! I’m sure you’ll be fine
@@NickPeitsch ... I got RioCan and Allied (2 grand). But I didn't know anything about Reits until I saw your (Very Informative) video. A concerning factor is Amazon which may affect malls, and a recessionary environment may hurt office rentals. Maybe I should have dumped the money into TD bank stocks instead. Love your videos!
Peter Hsu that is a concern, but it’s similar to Tesla taking over the oil and gas industry - a long ways away! You should be fine with RioCan since they’re one of the biggest in Canada. And thank you!!
I'm liking the hospital prison gown look.
Love REITs for passive income! But definitely not capital gains 😂
Exactly!!
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Yea, something we're keeping our eye on... seems like key part of the value prop for REITs was their high distributions, which allowed you to justify the higher tax rate (being non-qualified dividends). Now that dividends are being slashed, net returns aren't looking so hot either 🤨
17% div 28% yoy capital growth.. its all about when you buy it and how good the managment is.
If the prices rise with inflation why would you not get capital gains.
Just invested a ton into 8 different reit companies. I am alright not having capital gains since I am going to be reinvesting my dividends anyways.
5% yield is actually not that great, REITs that pay around 10% are easy to find.
Not easy anymore, 8% yes. Most stock screeners will find over 10%, but unknown very small companies. Even the mReits are paying that high. Unless you have found some jewels
@@stevenobinator2229 some are under 10%, some are over so an overall portfolio average yield of 10% is what I'm driving at.
Any thoughts on REITS vs bonds? Which is better and why?
Totally different securities however their prices are correlated because REITs are viewed as bond alternatives. E.g. They'll both drop in value if interest rates go up
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Thanks for sharing this video, I found it super informative and as well easy to follow.
Glad it was helpful!
Investing in REITs in my tax advantaged accounts. Kind of scary these days. Might look into retirement communities, I don’t think the virus will do what people are thinking it will in those communities. Might look into the Royal Bank of Canada. Thanks!
(Relentlessly) 😉
Nice man! RBC will be a solid dividend payer through this quarantine I believe :)
how likely will it be to drop 20%?? asked in April 2020...
Really good informative breakdown of REITS just when I needed it. Many thanks
Very welcome!
Good video. Informative as always. I have BTB.UN and VRE. Considering others at some point (individual stocks, not ETFs).
Seems to have very low volatility! Would be a nice buy right now
@@NickPeitsch good to know I made ok decisions. Kinda learning as I go.
OMG, I thought you were doing this video inside a hospital...lol
Same
LMAOOOOOOO
Same, its the shirt and hair style
I thought the same thing lol
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