Warrior Cats Canon Hierarchy

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  • follow me on twitter to see me talk even more about warrior cats canon inconsistencies: / fawnskip
    and to see me swear.
    But seriously, please feel free to talk to me about this if you have something to say/disagree.

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  • @pigeoncolada2142
    @pigeoncolada2142 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3750

    plot twist Brokenstar is the fox that killed the kits

    • @spiritwolf8596
      @spiritwolf8596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      wow...yessss thats ...just...crazyy..never though of it that way...mind blown!!!

    • @sentientshoelace111
      @sentientshoelace111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      *x files theme plays*

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dripping Honeycomb
      (Conspiracy music intesifies)

    • @p1nkpawz571
      @p1nkpawz571 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dripping Honeycomb are u sure that he was close to foxheart cause it didn't look like it

    • @p1nkpawz571
      @p1nkpawz571 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dripping Honeycomb the reason cats thought his mother was foxheart it because she spent a lot of time around him and then made her dep. so cat theorized that they were mates

  • @SelinaLee
    @SelinaLee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4392

    Petition for Moon to write her own Warriors Wiki

    • @sleepylark
      @sleepylark 7 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      butterflyidentity *signs petition*

    • @eiixiirs4155
      @eiixiirs4155 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      yes

    • @wizardwolf5242
      @wizardwolf5242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      butterflyidentity I'm in !

    • @leo-qf1cc
      @leo-qf1cc 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      butterflyidentity *signs*

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +468

      I have a full time job, pls don't sign this petition

  • @QuietRage
    @QuietRage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    I was browsing the Warriors wiki once and I saw this glitch on Patchpelt's page where it moved all the names in the family tree box one step down. According to the Wiki, Adderfang, Patchpelt's father, is now Patchpelt's son. Swiftbreeze, Patchpelt's mother, is now his father, and Redtail is his mother. Spottedleaf, Willowpelt, and Leopardfoot are his brothers. His BROTHERS.
    And you thought the website family trees were messed up.

    • @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659
      @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Quiet Rage O.O

    • @neonskylite2242
      @neonskylite2242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They revamped the code so it looked better and didn't glitch.

    • @arionarts9756
      @arionarts9756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Another error with a warriors info source: The "official app" of warriors that moonkitti mentioned, that says firestar' she parents are unknown, but then says who his mother is, I own that app, and it has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm

    • @psychticambitin7987
      @psychticambitin7987 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Quiet Rage that happened in the tigerstar page too

    • @eridenthe
      @eridenthe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      oml ur prof pic says it all XD

  • @amberpaintedglitch6891
    @amberpaintedglitch6891 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1575

    I vote Moonkitti make a Moonwiki XD

  • @Lilacuity
    @Lilacuity 7 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    Yo where can i get one of hollyleaf's chainsaws, they would sell amazingly well among the dark forest cats

    • @omithedank1262
      @omithedank1262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lilacuity a

    • @Bitchypoetsblog
      @Bitchypoetsblog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol!

    • @lovealways6456
      @lovealways6456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao ya

    • @Tobynotfox
      @Tobynotfox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My OC, Spottedsky walked up to you. "I can give you one for five mice! Just come down to twoleg place..." Spottedsky stared at you mischievously.

    • @copicc
      @copicc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Leaf creek walks up* what? I heard mice. Wheres the mice?

  • @eliza_da_hamilfan2636
    @eliza_da_hamilfan2636 7 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    Holy crap! I didn't know Brokentail was also a shapeshitter!!

    • @asshatdotorg
      @asshatdotorg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Xx_The1stPalmsway_xX Omg XD

    • @Weirdanimalboy
      @Weirdanimalboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Xx_The1stPalmsway_xX "a shapeshitter"

    • @iwakeupandboomimarat
      @iwakeupandboomimarat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      sTARKIT!??!!?

    • @riddledaj3055
      @riddledaj3055 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Eliza_Da_Hamilfan All I can think of is a cat's poop being little shapes.

    • @subspace2913
      @subspace2913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh yeah, a shitter of shapes.

  • @binary6254
    @binary6254 7 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Fun fact: Yellowfang ran into crookedjaw at a gathering once
    I think he was with Willowbreeze or Bluefur were there as well

  • @Flameswipe
    @Flameswipe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    To be honest I always took the 'Whitestorm having kits with multiple queens' things as just providing future warriors for the Clan. No romance, no cheating.

  • @stopitn0w
    @stopitn0w 7 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Erin Hunters: Lets make an official website! But we won't update it any time after 2010 though trolololl

  • @seago4t
    @seago4t 7 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    0:47 Maybe Brokenstar made them fight the fox? it could make sense..?

    • @Gxylord
      @Gxylord 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      MissSeaGoat That's what I thought, maybe Brokenstar then used Yellowfang as a way to pin the death of the kits on to another cat rather than a fox (I'm guessing he just didn't like her for some reason)

    • @lre834
      @lre834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Bleach Martini Yellowfang threatend him that she will make Star Clan punish him, so he got rid of his mother (he also killed his father so yeah great cat)

    • @lre834
      @lre834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bleach Martini i just looked up to see if its, like mentioned in the video, a fact that the fox killed them which is not. And there i also read the part were she threatend him. Poor Yellowfang her only son choose the wrong road despite having the choice

    • @Weirdanimalboy
      @Weirdanimalboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +Tom Don't forget about what he did to Mufasa

    • @lre834
      @lre834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weirdanimalboy who? xD

  • @shulbur
    @shulbur 7 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    it's 5 AM and im awake watching THIS
    i love it.

    • @kitti6273
      @kitti6273 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh
      its 10 pm here

    • @koinokakeras
      @koinokakeras 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      NeonGreenFox :3 Here were I live, it's 5:44 a.m

    • @shulbur
      @shulbur 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Pelo de Folhas now its 1 pm

    • @shulbur
      @shulbur 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +NeonGreenFox :3 aka in norway

    • @shulbur
      @shulbur 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i seriously wasn't hoping this comment get 51 likes XD

  • @jiexin1886
    @jiexin1886 7 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I believe that Yellowfang's mother has some trust issues. The so called Marigoldkit and Mintkit were Yellowfang's siblings, and for her mother to believe she killed them is really messed up. Also apparently on the wiki it says she's in the Dark Forest? Uhhhh

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Her being in the dark forest is another one of Su Susann's claims that doesn't add up.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Moonkitti that’s even more confusing

    • @katestarnes1709
      @katestarnes1709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      TheStylishWolf
      She was actually one of the best Warriors mothers up until right then

    • @missldoherty7271
      @missldoherty7271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Moonkitti• do u mean theyre saying yellow fangs in le dark forest?

    • @huggawuggafamily
      @huggawuggafamily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think they mean that because in Fading Echoes, (spoilers for oots) Yellowfang and Jayfeather visit the Dark Forest because they want to know what's going on there.
      Yes, I know this was 3 years ago.

  • @hattercat_23
    @hattercat_23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    DANG IT I wanted smudge to be Cloudtail's dad

    • @glass_2526
      @glass_2526 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      HatterCat !
      Ikr! Same!

    • @hattercat_23
      @hattercat_23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually they never said he was tho

    • @peasinapodproductions1996
      @peasinapodproductions1996 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HatterCat ! Yeah

    • @Weirdanimalboy
      @Weirdanimalboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      HatterCat ! Didn't Firepaw say he smelled different when he met him again as an apprentice? I thought they had a conversation about him going to the cutter?

    • @parrotenthusiast1181
      @parrotenthusiast1181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      No. Jake should be his father . Jake is everyones father. Jake is YOUr father.

  • @cadenwiener9686
    @cadenwiener9686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +658

    For the entire Cats of the Clans book Mosskit was a tom. Does this bother no one else.

    • @mocha3730
      @mocha3730 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      IT BOTHERS MEEEE

    • @BlackHeartKitti2
      @BlackHeartKitti2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      The first time Mosskit was mentioned s/he was a tom. I wonder if the gender of cats changes based on which author wrote the book.

    • @ratajamieson5828
      @ratajamieson5828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Caden Wiener Apparently according too Bluestar's prophecy, Crookedstar has two mothers. Isn't he lucky!
      (His moms are called Lilystem and Rainflower

    • @arionarts9756
      @arionarts9756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Another error with a warriors info source: The "official app" of warriors that moonkitti mentioned, that says firestar' she parents are unknown, but then says who his mother is, I own that app, and it has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm

    • @featherthethirdwheel3738
      @featherthethirdwheel3738 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Not as much as Dovewing's second power. Her eyes can't decide on their colour! (Also, Patchpelt had kits with a sibling **Pukes**)

  • @Kittennedy
    @Kittennedy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    That's a lot of what I have wondered I do and don't trust the Warriors WIKI for those reasons
    It would be funny if you animated the Warrior Cats movie

    • @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659
      @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stormwhisker Productions Yes please X3

    • @Weirdanimalboy
      @Weirdanimalboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stormwhisker Productions With the running cycle Bluestar had in the spoiler video of Rising Storm? It would be amazing.

    • @sammyhewens5893
      @sammyhewens5893 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lmao i'd watch it if she animated it in the way she animates the I Spoil videos.

  • @ellacatman
    @ellacatman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Moonkitti, the queen of consistency.

  • @onionisking7021
    @onionisking7021 7 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Oh yes PLEASE don't let the wiki change the descriptions for the cats to the ones from the movie when it comes. I'm scared the movie'll will use ''Realistic" cat models, and not have 'some fun' with the cats, and make them look unique. Even the official book art can't decide what cats look like, and neither can us as a fandom. But the unique designs are the point. I almost wish we WEREN'T getting a movie, because I feel it'll bring 'official designs' and the wiki may feel the need to use them, but I really hope not. Thanks for the great video, Moon, Love it :3!

    • @leobull4533
      @leobull4533 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      OnionIsKing they'll be using the main book cover cat designs probably as they are the realistic illustrative designs of the character

    • @pearlytheegg3838
      @pearlytheegg3838 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I'd like realistic cats in the movie, especially if they're well animated like Legend Of The Guardians: The Owls Of Gahoole. That movie was gorgeous.

    • @aislynlastname6975
      @aislynlastname6975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OnionIsKing
      And I rlly hope that it's Handdrawn

    • @samanthot_
      @samanthot_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Pearly The Fried Egg
      I remember seeing that movie when I was five or something, it was gorgeous... Too bad I can't remember much of it tho

    • @sparkishay1499
      @sparkishay1499 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That actually makes me sick. Like the over-dominance of CGI created animated movies is pathetic. There haven't been any 2D style animated movies in the US in like... over 10 years. This would've been perfect, but no, let's jump on the CGI bandwagon like everyone else.

  • @lre834
    @lre834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    all fine but you made one mistake: in Yellowfangs secret it is *suggested* that it was a fox an then (Spoiler) Yellowfang got blamed for it. And she believes it was a fox but when Thunderclan trys to get their kits back she probably realizes that he killed the Kits. it was never proven to be an Fox (Note there was also no fox scent)

    • @meowtube89
      @meowtube89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I noticed that too, it wasn’t a fox, yellowfang thought it was.

  • @spira543
    @spira543 7 ปีที่แล้ว +608

    I'm extremely scared for the movie

    • @thefailinghawk5785
      @thefailinghawk5785 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spira - literally me

    • @akinarii1
      @akinarii1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      me too

    • @maddiek8474
      @maddiek8474 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I live under a rock.
      I HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A MOVIE

    • @stumpy1012
      @stumpy1012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed, but I'm gonna try and drag my warriors fan friends to it anyways.

    • @Chimera_VA
      @Chimera_VA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spira HELLBENT!!!!!!!

  • @ratajamieson5828
    @ratajamieson5828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Also, I have an incest theory-
    Everyone that trained in the dark forest in Thunderclan is related to Tigerstar. Ivypool is anyway...

    • @yourfriendlylocalhitman667
      @yourfriendlylocalhitman667 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chicory sugar and tigerheart r realatd

    • @ashanimates1716
      @ashanimates1716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How is Ivypool related? I’m only on Omen of the stars book 4

    • @quantumflare
      @quantumflare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ivypool isn’t related to Tigerstar

    • @ashanimates1716
      @ashanimates1716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      O O F I finished omen of the stars now

    • @nix.i
      @nix.i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@quantumflare Not blood - related, but mate related.Tigerstar was Bramblestar's farther, who mated with Squirrelflight who is related to Ivypool through Cloudtail.

  • @jillianfry4520
    @jillianfry4520 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    petition for moon to do an asmr or a video where she is just laughing.
    all her fans just love that laugh omg

    • @valiendovrgasenores6943
      @valiendovrgasenores6943 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *How do you delete someone else's comment?*

    • @hokmabattle3
      @hokmabattle3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@valiendovrgasenores6943 I don't know but I need to know

    • @hokmabattle3
      @hokmabattle3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment is interesting

  • @morbius
    @morbius 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I have a bad fact.
    They were all in the matrix all along, and scourge was the boss of it all.

  • @mariacastellano6760
    @mariacastellano6760 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Moonkitti becomes lzrdwzrd.

  • @orangeyellow7066
    @orangeyellow7066 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The Warriors Website Family Tree is probably where BrindlefaceXWhitestorm was born.

  • @wacky9888
    @wacky9888 7 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    7:45
    Pffttt
    Thorrkit?
    Where's Lokikit?

  • @somepersonoutthere1068
    @somepersonoutthere1068 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Legend says that if your on time moon will reply

  • @arionarts9756
    @arionarts9756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The "official app" of warriors has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm.

    • @motorcitymangababe
      @motorcitymangababe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Who had a better story than brankenpaw the broken? Sadface.

    • @true_lovers_knot
      @true_lovers_knot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I REMEMBER THAT and my friend ATE IT UPPP

    • @ZirconiaGacha
      @ZirconiaGacha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know this comment is old, but...
      Give that trivia to someone who just started reading and has finished arc 1, but only the arc 1 questions. And then give them the "right answers".

  • @MythimnaImpura
    @MythimnaImpura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think a lot of the first series stuff should be canon, yeah, except for some of the dumb early things.... like shadowclan being angry 5 times

    • @Weirdanimalboy
      @Weirdanimalboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mythimna Don't you mean EdgyClan?

    • @MythimnaImpura
      @MythimnaImpura 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Weirdanimalboy theyre not edgy, they're misunderstood(sarcasm sarcasm)

  • @sherriannarnold3778
    @sherriannarnold3778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Moon is not allowed as a prefix, but is fine for a suffix, at least that's what I've always believed.

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sydney Arnold but based on what evidence

    • @sherriannarnold3778
      @sherriannarnold3778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      WTF you replied :P. None, it's just what I've always thought, since they use is as a suffix quite commonly.

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sydney Arnold ahh, I see. I was just wondering if you knew something I didn't

    • @sherriannarnold3778
      @sherriannarnold3778 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No, I'm just saying what I've always believed, though I never use 'Moon' for anything anyways.

    • @iman5425
      @iman5425 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Moonflower is triggered

  • @mysryuza
    @mysryuza 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That moment Violetpaw reminds you of Starkit because of the name. XD

  • @sunk1sed
    @sunk1sed 7 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    im deceASED thornclaw is over twice blossomfalls age why cant they just leave him be

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      At the very least it's Blossomfall and not some new warrior like Hollytuft or Sorrelstripe

    • @jindedspeakevolution8461
      @jindedspeakevolution8461 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @jindedspeakevolution8461
      @jindedspeakevolution8461 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i think he's always been putting his head together with blossomfall, sort of makes sense but it is better than like sparkpelt.
      probably related somehow though

    • @shadedrse569
      @shadedrse569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's true. Tbh I honestly never thought he would get a mate

    • @ThunderclanOakfang
      @ThunderclanOakfang 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Eh, they're both consenting adults so I don't really care. I think the only relationship in Warriors where I cringed at the age difference was Pinestar and Leopardfoot. That was just...unnecessary and uncomfy.

  • @hallgeir9306
    @hallgeir9306 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You can actually trust more on the website than the app

  • @somepersonoutthere1068
    @somepersonoutthere1068 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love how they make these wonderful mistakes

  • @waffleweirdo1252
    @waffleweirdo1252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dovewing having blue eyes, then switching to green, WHY!?

  • @toastedlite3034
    @toastedlite3034 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I was wondering why all those kits suddenly had names in the wiki

  • @theorisingmatrix_mouse8991
    @theorisingmatrix_mouse8991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I tried the quiz on the warriors app, and because i smelt something was apaw (get it?) i checked each question in the books and on the wiki. It gave me 0, even when i knew i answered correctly. One question I got was "In Fire and Ice, which cat fell into the gorge and died?" My options were Leopardfur, Sandpaw, Whiteclaw, and Graystripe. Obviously I chose Whiteclaw, as i had recently read his death scene. The app said "NO DUMBARSE, IT WAS SANDPAW!!!" Obviously not like that, but it said Sandpaw fell off the edge and died. I deleted the app whilst flipping it off the entire time

  • @ratajamieson5828
    @ratajamieson5828 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think Warrior cats app should be lower on the list...

    • @mebanks-smith9079
      @mebanks-smith9079 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is very outdated and doesn't have many facts

  • @Savannahmrowl
    @Savannahmrowl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    idk if i like this su susann '^' were all ultra warriors fans

    • @spiritwolf8596
      @spiritwolf8596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      yes..thank you...just what I was saying!!

    • @fickyfince4332
      @fickyfince4332 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about that one friend I have..... ya Know..... that only read power of three Up To book 4 And the ultimate guide.
      And then stopped.

    • @Goldy12378
      @Goldy12378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Savannahmrowl Yeah I don't think there is a such thing as a casual Warrior Cats fan.

    • @mimi-wh8jw
      @mimi-wh8jw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup!

    • @nix.i
      @nix.i 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, I spend my hard earned money on Warriors books.Try me

  • @maple_wing--
    @maple_wing-- 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I personally agree but. I'm confused how Thistleclaw changed through the books Xd

    • @TobyandMavisforever
      @TobyandMavisforever 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have a theory. By OotS, Thistleclaw had spent so much time in the DF that the place corrupted his mind.

    • @celestialdetective
      @celestialdetective 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TobyandMavisforever i read OotS as oooots

  • @strawberryqueen0382
    @strawberryqueen0382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like the wiki for when they have the summaries for books but the info on characters they have is so wrong like I believed Redtail was a dark-ginger for months until I reread the series.

  • @crownedhyacinth
    @crownedhyacinth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my hearts hurts for Rosetail
    (look at what they did to her design in the wiki, it's just... uh yeah)

  • @tiptaphooves
    @tiptaphooves 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Leafpool isn't on the app info because she's a disappointment.

  • @colorfulchameleon9891
    @colorfulchameleon9891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Okay, I watched this video when it came out, and I hadn't read Yellowfang's Secret. I assumed Brokenstar killed the kits by sending them to a fox, but after reading Yellowfang's Secret, something hit me.
    The book never says a fox killed the kits, only that Yellowfang detected the scent of a fox. She didn't even guess Brokenstar killed the kits.
    That's why it makes sense he had his "I killed Mufasa" moment in Into The Wild when he reveals he killed Mintkit and Marigoldkit. Yellowfang had no clue.
    Maybe Brokenstar spread fox-dung around the area, or just killed the kits somewhere there was fox-scent?
    Sidenote -
    Brokenstar in Into The Wild seemed like a boring, generic, "I am evil and am going to kill you!" villain, but when reading Yellowfang's Secret, he was sometimes kinda sweet as a kit (especially around Yellowfang), but as he descended into evil, he became really convincingly manipulative.

  • @nathanhuerta4445
    @nathanhuerta4445 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I really dont like the new covers for the books.Seeing a image of one gets me really annoyed.The new ones are all "Epic" and "Gritty" looking when I think they look far worse than the old covers.Have you seen the new covers for "The Darkest Hour" and "The Last Hope"?They look terrible and I hope they dont change the cover for the first one again when the film comes out.That was my rant about the covers.Also I gave up on "Continuity" for the series and just said "whatever book i'm reading is the continuity i'm going with" because its much simpler that way.

    • @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659
      @rosebudrosesnotificationsq5659 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nathan Huerta Actually, Dawn Of The Clans and Omen Of The Stars have the new covers (I believe) and they have some of the prettiest covers I have ever seen!

    • @kukuandkookie
      @kukuandkookie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Nathan Huerta
      I love the new covers! It's aesthetically pleasing and the old ones could be pretty in their own right, but they don't fit into the modern aesthetic and were often pretty inconsistent/contradictory in terms of art. The new ones are just really pleasing to look at, but that's me speaking from an artist's standpoint. To each their own!

    • @nathanhuerta4445
      @nathanhuerta4445 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      kuku88 I'm just a crotchety old man who thinks things were better "in the old days" and have a hard time accepting change.

    • @kitti6273
      @kitti6273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im like that too haha

    • @lre834
      @lre834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nathan Huerta well in the German Version its a Giant head of either Firestar or Sandstorm with 2 cats fighting (probably Firestar and Tigerstar or Bramblepaw) and a black cat beside them

  • @TStewart1973
    @TStewart1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moonkitti: Mangas aren’t usually contradicting
    Me: *C O U G H* millies pelt color in the full color graystripe’s adventure vs main series

  • @pixelapocrypha
    @pixelapocrypha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video helped me figure out why I've had a harder and harder time getting into the books as the series goes on. It's the author's version of "too many cooks in the kitchen".

  • @djayrainstorm7834
    @djayrainstorm7834 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You are the best in the youtube world *how much do I get paid to say this?*

  • @LZRDWZRD
    @LZRDWZRD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for making this and I 100% agree with your order, especially the decision to separate the main series from the super editions. Like you said they're contradictory at points and don't always fit neatly into the events described in the first series. I think they should be seen more as "legends" or "stories" passing on rather than the usual omniscient third person storytelling. Guardians of Ga'Hoole had "prequels" and hell even classics like The Hobbit told stories with an admittedly limited or erroneous writer iirc. Heck they could have run with that premise and given these books an all new style to them. Anyways, great job!

  • @MsCreeperCrafter
    @MsCreeperCrafter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Well, did anyone notice that in Crookedstar's Promise, Shellheart is a boy... On the other paw, in Bluestar's Prophecy, Shellheart is a girl... FIRST EVER TRANSGENDER CAT!

  • @asri3l671
    @asri3l671 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes a lot of sense and I will honestly be using it to organize canon in my head 👍🏻 while also shamelessly inserting a few headcanons as well.
    Also, your voice is adorable and very enjoyable to listen to.

  • @noxixx
    @noxixx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:25 Brokenstar turned into a fox and killed them

  • @jeretoon8350
    @jeretoon8350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Authors: moon can’t be used in a name
    Moonkitti: *sweats nervously*

  • @charadreemurr1818
    @charadreemurr1818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When someone says Moon, and other clan names are forbiden: Ahem...MOONFLOWER, RUNNINGWIND MOONSHADOW, AND AMBERMOON (I'm sure there are more)

    • @streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659
      @streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume Moon- and Clan names are forbidden as prefixes but not suffixes, and I think I heard that Moonflower was a mistake. But there's no excuse for the cat Windflight at all. Especially since he's PART WindClan.

    • @Tsukiakari-qb3tk
      @Tsukiakari-qb3tk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 Skywatcher, Shadowsight, Windflight, and others

    • @streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659
      @streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Elizabeth Moore I commented 3 years ago before Shadowsight was even a kit. So my point is moot.

    • @Tsukiakari-qb3tk
      @Tsukiakari-qb3tk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 okay! Have a nice day!

    • @Tsukiakari-qb3tk
      @Tsukiakari-qb3tk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 okay! Have a nice day!

  • @Epiccatqueen-un1ew
    @Epiccatqueen-un1ew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg I’ve never seen the actual cover of Crookedstar’s Promise, like without the jacket and wthhh he literally looks like something from the exorcist

  • @McMerlin11
    @McMerlin11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Bramblestar's Storm, Graystripe stated Mistystar and Stonefur were his kits. They were born before he was! Get your crap together Erins

  • @LooneyLei
    @LooneyLei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just started the series, haven’t finished into the wild yet. But I love seeing this types of videos :)

  • @tmaxim2651
    @tmaxim2651 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wait but is the Brokenstar thing an actual contradiction? The way I always saw it was that the kits should not have been outside the camp, it was Brokenstar who pushed for them to be outside the camp, training too hard, too soon. In their training they were killed by a fox. It's still almost entirely Brokenstar's fault as he disobeyed the code(?), common sense and ignored or didn't care about the heightened danger he put the kits in. I mean original I did assume Brokenstar was the one who actual fought them to death... I don't know, I don't remember the details...

  • @lincolnlogsforleeches1422
    @lincolnlogsforleeches1422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The messages I was getting before Bluestar died was that Whitestorm had had a romantic relationship with her or before she went insane, had a crush on her and that was what we continuosly observed from Fireheart's point of view, Whitestorm caring for Bluestar, I still ship it

    • @shadowy_o.o
      @shadowy_o.o 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this was from 11 months ago but Whitestorm is Bluestar's nephew.

  • @ryu6699
    @ryu6699 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reason viki is not writing warriors anymore is bc she is recovering from cancer and she has had no time to wright warriors bc she is recovering is says so on her face book somewhere and that is why they didn't tell us the name of the new author bc it wont last for long from my understanding

    • @ryu6699
      @ryu6699 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could be wrong

  • @codorlune6672
    @codorlune6672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For some reason I’m rewatching so many of your videos during quarantine,
    But my thoughts on the thistleclaw thing, the only thing I can think would make sense is that Bluestar’s view on Thistle was tempered with age, obviously this only kind of works if you take it in a bubble, but this is a halfassed possible explanation for Bluestar’s feelings about Thistle. Bluefur in the SE is incredibly dramatic and emotional, the whole book is about her dealing with grief and how that made her a not so great person, so her taking thistle WAY too seriously and being HELLA dramatic about how he’s gonna cause the end of the world could work. So her being older and having hindsight in forest of secrets she could be like..huh 20/20 I was pretty paranoid.

  • @emberaj3330
    @emberaj3330 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another thing:
    Dovewing is considered Bumblestripes (formal) mate in the wiki, which is DEFINITELY not true considering she just wanted to be friends with him, and not agreeing to be mates with him.

  • @kendollguy97
    @kendollguy97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know, I know everything about Warriors because I keep up with chats, read all the books, proofread, and still people don't know anything. Wiki doesnt know anything, they got the story for Yellowfang's Secret wrong, her kits were killed by young age. I do agree with the things you say Moonkitti, I feel all the pain.

  • @ki4099
    @ki4099 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Btw Su Susan isn't canon anymore... let's party.

  • @pixelatedcorpse
    @pixelatedcorpse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't even watched the video yet but It's a rant video so it's already amazing

  • @imitationinfinity7962
    @imitationinfinity7962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So...does this make Mosskit a tom or a she-cat?? Because NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW.

    • @parrotenthusiast1181
      @parrotenthusiast1181 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mosskit does not obey your puny human genders

    • @kroduss4802
      @kroduss4802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mosskit is *_A L L ._*

    • @numberjacksoctonauts7138
      @numberjacksoctonauts7138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think she's a girl since Bluestar's Prophecy is her biggest appearance.

    • @cosmicleonids
      @cosmicleonids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When explained in Forest of Secrets, Mosskit is male. But all throughout Bluestar’s Prophecy Mosskit is female.

    • @UUEBWISJSVUSSNIFFUEUE
      @UUEBWISJSVUSSNIFFUEUE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SHE-CAT!!!!! (uhhh....yeah, I read the books in two languages, and counted how often the, were named a she-cat, and how often a Tom, and the she-cat "won", so she is a she-cat for me)

  • @old4586
    @old4586 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fireheart gets to keep the kit he found...su susans suspicious van...it all makes sense now. My mind has been blown

  • @nightridges7344
    @nightridges7344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so scared for the movie 😰

  • @neonkitty3574
    @neonkitty3574 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Su Sussan's Suspicious Van" I Get It Now.

  • @mayoi_nui
    @mayoi_nui 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the 2nd book in the new seires, I think page 45, Twigkit is mistaken for twigpaw..

  • @AmyMist
    @AmyMist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't always agree with your Warriors opinions... But this time I do completely. Especially when it comes to the field guide stuff, since there's so much information there that just plain doesn't add up.

  • @clairemyers1443
    @clairemyers1443 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Maybe Brokenstar did kill the kits and Yellowfang thought it was a fox?

  • @-lightshadow-616
    @-lightshadow-616 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I looked in the wiki not to long ago and Dovewing was .5 years older than Tigerheart

  • @maemarbles3786
    @maemarbles3786 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I thought LionFart was AssFur and FernCloudHasTooManyKits' father?

    • @loupie
      @loupie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, Lionheart is CinderPelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart and Thornclaw's dad :3

    • @rickbeter9898
      @rickbeter9898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought of runningwind being the father

    • @minccinoluna805
      @minccinoluna805 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought it was Redtail

    • @fangleanimation244
      @fangleanimation244 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      iM sO cOnFuSeD

  • @nikko1044
    @nikko1044 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moonkitti can u explain why I'm up at 12 am watching your videos?nvm your the best in stardorm and honestly, i have literally no place in any dorm but i don't care about anything so i officially name you the god of AncientDorm where only the best go no matter how many subs

  • @peachtea7269
    @peachtea7269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually, I have a theory: Brokenstar scared a fox after murdering the kits. Problem solved.

  • @pokeslash1416
    @pokeslash1416 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually really helpful. I'd be interested in seeing you write up a collection of your own Warriors timeline, but of course that wouldn't be a TON of work.
    Thanks for the info on Su Suzann, I had no idea Vicky was even no longer answering stuff because I've been totally out of the loop on Warriors. I'm getting hardcore into it again (never really left the fandom) and still very passionate about the lore, so it's nice to see a vid about it.
    Totally agree on both the movie and the website. The website has always been frankly terrible for getting info on the cats, and a movie will likely have serious changes from the actual series purely because they're crunching it down for a movie (see Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole) and shouldn't be treated the same as book-canon.
    I'm curious on your opinion of Dawn of the Clans vs the Warriors Guidebooks. The Guidebooks are rather inconsistent sometimes but they did give us our first look at the lore of how the clans started, and it's been a subject of debate between my friends and I on whether it's what actually happened, has been warped by time and forgetful generations, or it's just an error. I gave up reading Dawn of the Clans because even though the lore fascinated me, I found the first book to be incredibly inconsistent and the I didn't like the jumpy writing or the weirdness characterization much. I might give it another try because I was younger then, but I distinctly remember completely losing track of which character was who because they couldn't stay consistent.
    Anyway, I'm sticking to the special editions for now. I really enjoy that people like you are still having fun in the fandom and just paying attention to your own canon, it's always good to know we can discuss our fanstuffs in a calm environment. I hope the movie isn't to detrimental to the fandom at large.

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I consider dawn of the clans main series books, so at the top of my list, over the field guides. The dawn of the clans gets better as it goes, honestly.

    • @pokeslash1416
      @pokeslash1416 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just occurred to me...
      Could we solve the Brokenstar issue by saying that a fox attacked, and he forced the kits to fight it instead of defending them? Allowing a couple of kits not even at apprentice age fight a fox alone is close enough to a murder by his own paws.

  • @honkerenthusiast
    @honkerenthusiast 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    your voice is so cute i'm jealous

    • @honkerenthusiast
      @honkerenthusiast 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but good heirarchy i agree. and great video!

  • @Hazelstiltskin
    @Hazelstiltskin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos :0 this one was a turn from comedy but still great content, I totally agree with your opinions and presentation of which fact gets priority and even if I didn't, which would be weird because you are completely logical here and you backed every single thing you said, I would still appreciate the time and effort you put into sourcing your words and explaining why you think the ranks you placed are correct. I also totally agree with you on the movie adaption. if it even makes it out of production, it better stay in its own little quarantined corner and not taint our canon world™ with its budget-cut edited abridged one

  • @TehWhiteTiger
    @TehWhiteTiger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ahh where would wsrroors be without contradictions.. pretty sure the facts page on my site is somehow all not fact anymore.. like how Thunder has three different reasons for his name in......

    • @clawcakes
      @clawcakes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      W S R R O O R S

  • @ibeamemeyboi9098
    @ibeamemeyboi9098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations for another thousand subscribers

  • @gracek3846
    @gracek3846 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YOU TOLD ME YOU NEVER READ YELLOWFANG'S SECRET, GIRL.

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Grace things change

    • @gracek3846
      @gracek3846 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, good to know.

  • @Stounyx
    @Stounyx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moonkitti, I love your animation style ^^ and there too many things that happen that contradict the main series to count

  • @jonas8481
    @jonas8481 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about incosistencies in the main series?

  • @pokemoon7367
    @pokemoon7367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s my personal head canon for the ash paw and from fern paw stuff: it was dark’stripe who was the father and they weren’t close by the time we saw them in a book and when brindle’face took in cloud’kit that’s when they broke up offscreen and after cloud kit,ash kit and fern kit were Apprenticed, white storm finally took his move and had kids with her. This is my personal head cannon and I think it makes the most sense due to the fact the dark stripe looks like both of them, and could reasonably be their father due to the fact he’s a young Tom that had no mate in his life that we know of.

  • @duasii1335
    @duasii1335 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Help I'm lost in all these comments

    • @duasii1335
      @duasii1335 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** thank

    • @koinokakeras
      @koinokakeras 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arcticmoon Jamaa I've found you in this sea of comments

  • @MORTICIDE
    @MORTICIDE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those are the only Super editions i read, Bluestar's prophecy, Yellowflang's secret, and currently reading Crookedstars promise!

  • @venenososerpentine9865
    @venenososerpentine9865 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe they were killed by a fox during a train lesson to kill foxes

    • @venenososerpentine9865
      @venenososerpentine9865 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or learning to defend themselves against foxes by brokenstar getting a fox for them to fight

    • @georgecat2291
      @georgecat2291 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think apprentinces are forced to fight foxes, but hey maybe i'm wrong

    • @Donnegail
      @Donnegail 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're not but BrokenStar was insane, let's face that.

  • @GiaBird-The-Jumin-Han-Lover
    @GiaBird-The-Jumin-Han-Lover 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:53 oh thank goodness the "moon" name is safe, i have a warriord oc "MoonDust" and i wanted to use her in my own comics/mangas im making. (lol they probably wont really be published but just for me and my vids) and i really don't want to break any warriors "rules" because then i'd sound immature, and that i dont respwct true warriors, which i DO love the warriors books with all my heart.
    So now i have an almighty Moonkitti that says its ok, so now its fine!
    Thx for clearing this up for me Moonkitti!

  • @abandonedchannel24
    @abandonedchannel24 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    make the warrior cats movie

  • @fantasiesbyjuls
    @fantasiesbyjuls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I remember correctly, in yellowfangs secret, the kits that she was blamed for killing were her mother’s newest litter...

  • @dragonflower5193
    @dragonflower5193 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I made 666 likes turn into 667

    • @WowieItsMeowie
      @WowieItsMeowie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blossoming Story Good job. You're our hero.

  • @g.snapdragon9817
    @g.snapdragon9817 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For The yellow fang and kits problem I think broken Star DID kill them but he blamed it on a Fox in yellow fangs perspective, making it look like she couldn't heal a fix bite and in turn as a bad medicine cat or something like that idk

  • @gaunjee4182
    @gaunjee4182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't know why su susann is even a thing.

  • @rowanheart8122
    @rowanheart8122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I read Ravenpaw's Path and I was super confused and bothered when Brambleclaw was referred to as an apprentice, but Squirrelkit and Leafkit were there

  • @rayjensen4799
    @rayjensen4799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't mean to be rude but, I was wondering about your voice.. were you born like that or did you just not go through puberty?

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i mean, born like that and not going through puberty would be around the same thing

    • @rayjensen4799
      @rayjensen4799 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya i guess so! but you still have not answered my question. Again i dont mean to be rude.. cause... asking that might be a little offensive.

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yeah sorry it's kinda personal

    • @rayjensen4799
      @rayjensen4799 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok then, thats fine. i wont ask anymore

    • @lostsouls1573
      @lostsouls1573 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Moonkitti
      I like your voice! :3

  • @kannonmcwhinney1617
    @kannonmcwhinney1617 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 year aniversary of this. Noice

  • @finnium2814
    @finnium2814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do really hope they don't put the movie pictures into the wiki, everything would be scrambled up XD

  • @venusserina
    @venusserina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Canon list:
    1. What I like the most
    2. Everything else

  • @jz1866
    @jz1866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of books getting it wrong, did any of you realize in bramblestar' s storm it said 1. BRAMBLESTAR/CLAW WAD SQUIRRELFLIGHT'S MENTOR, ( dustpelt, who?) 2. When graystripe is moving to the elders den he has this big speech and what not, and he said he was SO PROUD of his daughter, MISTYSTAR/FOOT for becoming leader of riverclan, and wished his son, STONEFUR could see this day, ( like, who are stormfur, feathertail, bluestar, and oakheart anyway?) Anyway I died laughing and was in a fit when reading this book lol

  • @sophie2858
    @sophie2858 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel, it's like being in a book club and getting split sides with a friend that is funny as hell.