How To: Make a Post-Hardcore Song in 6 Min or Less (+ Full Song at the End) || Shady Cicada

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ความคิดเห็น • 523

  • @johnmarques1611
    @johnmarques1611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    This reminds me so much of early escape the fate

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      That was definitely one of the references I used when trying to get a refresh on the genre :)

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      kinda sad that this kind of post-hardcore doesn't exist anymore. Most post-hardcore bands have transitioned into metalcore.

    • @Odie50000
      @Odie50000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      blackknightkanos Dance Gavin Dance tho.

    • @audkyrie
      @audkyrie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      blackknightkanos Stolas G, modern post hxc is still good especially the stuff off of Blue Swan Records

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      really you still consider them post hardcore? I like them tho :))

  • @teppizini
    @teppizini 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    no matter how many times I go back and rewatch this I can never get over how totally badass this song is. that chorus is SO killer!!!!

  • @Shadycicada
    @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Tuning is Drop C (CGCFAD) for those asking!

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good job !
      I have 2 questions to you )
      1.What is an effect at the start of this song ?
      ( fade in + eq shift ? )
      2. What do you do when you just cant finish the song ?
      ( for example im working on a song , 3\4 got intro,main riff,2-d riff and just stuck )
      your suggestions ?

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hey man! For the effect, I had a separate master track with the mids solo'd out on the eq. I slowly had it fade out while the main master track faded in.
      When I can't finish a song, I might loop a part of it and try to come up with new leads over it. If I find something I like, I'll usually get an idea on how to structure the rest of the song and come up with new material. If not, I might even take a break and come back to it later. Don't try to force it, but experiment a little. Even playing around with an instrument you're not familiar with can help. Hope that helped! :)

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks !

    • @AxLZ1
      @AxLZ1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can I use drop d for similar results?

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** Many PHC Bands use drop D, C#, C, B tunings , so yes you can )

  • @corgioverlord2464
    @corgioverlord2464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Damn it now i'm addicted to the example song, it's sooo good

  • @ProjectGenesisMusic
    @ProjectGenesisMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Fucking love this! Punk and Hardcore have always been my biggest influences playing guitar and post hardcore has been a big influence on me the past 6 years.

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hey dude! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's a good mix of influences as well :D

  • @underath7776
    @underath7776 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    that melodic metalcore riff at 3:45 - 4:05 always playing on my mind anytime 😅

  • @Gaothdusk
    @Gaothdusk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Sounds like an anime opening. That's a good thing btw

    • @kevinpardo8046
      @kevinpardo8046 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lily I read that in Mario's voice

    • @DeviousKid45
      @DeviousKid45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ew

    • @old3dn18
      @old3dn18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr

    • @numburger
      @numburger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not a fan of that general kind of "anime op" type sound but bc it's Shady, I'm willing to blow it off

  • @Daelitegamer
    @Daelitegamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The fact this is a tutorial and it produced easily not only a top post hardcore song for me, but honestly, a top all time for my list. Absolutely insane.

  • @GramGramAnimations
    @GramGramAnimations 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Always love these how to's. Next up: How to Make an Anime Intro!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I'm glad you enjoy them! I will definitely give that one a shot sometime, seeing as I'm currently writing anime music for a certain *cough cough* project *cough cough*

    • @maxd11111
      @maxd11111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      couldn't tell if this comment was meme or not lol

    • @Josh-it6uy
      @Josh-it6uy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Anime was a mistake.

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Josh Nice overdone meme m8 👍

    • @andetius
      @andetius 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fake Name too bad its serious..

  • @RKfromPartsUnknown
    @RKfromPartsUnknown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This How-To's song "The Rise" gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it. It's calm...yet it has this brooding thing about it.

  • @AHmusic
    @AHmusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Dude the song was so catchy and awesome!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey dude! Thanks so much :D I'm glad you liked it!

  • @cinnaminion1351
    @cinnaminion1351 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    love these how to videos. i sometimes rewatch them all when I'm writing stuff for my band xD

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh damn, that's awesome! I'm glad you enjoy them, bud!

  • @tysonreesmusic
    @tysonreesmusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Man I would love some more in depth 'how to's' stuff from you guys! As a noob just saying "Play sweet rhythm with lead!" doesn't help me much :(

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I will be making tutorials eventually when I get the chance :) I don't really know any music theory, but if I find a proper way to explain myself, I will definitely be making some!

  • @Kellen0102
    @Kellen0102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    you should do a video on these "emotional" and melodic chords and how to play them

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    1:16 "Will you miss me when I'm goooooooone" #theamityaffliction

    • @Cymoar
      @Cymoar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fairy C Rat yooooo love that song

  • @balicuda
    @balicuda 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video brings back all the genuine, overwhelming appreciation i had for post-hardcore when i was 16. feeling so many feels right now. thank you for this ;^;

  • @tizianofratini7407
    @tizianofratini7407 7 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    what about Prog Metal? that'd be a challenge for you

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I would love to give that a shot sometime!

    • @tizianofratini7407
      @tizianofratini7407 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And I'd love to see it

    • @lorenzosarli2310
      @lorenzosarli2310 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was just gonna suggest that! :) GO FOR IT GUYS!!!

    • @Lure74
      @Lure74 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was searching for some prog in you channel, too ^^

    • @batty213
      @batty213 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really my style but all these "how to" videos have made you one of my favorite channels on TH-cam :) rock on brother :)

  • @DacianGradaMusic
    @DacianGradaMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, you always say to not take these too seriously, but I think they're legit songs, catchy and awesome! I'd totally buy an album with these. *hint hint*

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah man, thanks a lot, dude! I'm really happy you dig them :) Despite the comedy side, I really do try to make the songs catchy/enjoyable. So I'm glad people can get into them!

  • @yayayyayayayayayayup5476
    @yayayyayayayayayayup5476 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the lead parts are actually reminds me of BlessTheFall! anyways you're sick as always man!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot, bud! I haven't listened to BTF in forever, but I was pretty into them back in the day :)

    • @yayayyayayayayayayup5476
      @yayayyayayayayayayup5476 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Shady Cicada Cool man! im glad that you're into them back in the day haha i just wondering if you can make a tutorial of how to create a song like CHON? that would be awesome man!

  • @adamrafieljuanil4085
    @adamrafieljuanil4085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sounds like a theme song for an epic final battle in a video game.

  • @pietromoroni
    @pietromoroni 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching you two playing is one of the most exciting things ever! Keep it up!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot, bud. It really is a lot of fun jamming out together, and we look forward to doing it many times more. So we will definitely keep it up!

  • @Shadycicada
    @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I have no puns. LATE FOR A MEETING. Hope you guys enjoy this one! It was a load of fun to make. Full song example starts at 2:07! The next "How-To" will be coming soon! Along with some other things involving.......*cough cough* an album and tabs *cough cough* *P.S* New cover coming this Saturday as well! *P.P.S* That feel when you forget to put the word "seriously" in the intro. 10/10

  • @corgioverlord2464
    @corgioverlord2464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best tutorial i've ever seen tbh

  • @samsloot
    @samsloot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would be great of you would tab out those song examples man! I know that i'm not the only one who'd appreciatie that!

  • @apollothe1a192
    @apollothe1a192 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I can’t tell you why but when you guys started shredding I got emotional lol. Caught a lump in my throat

  • @lillydalliesaboutthings
    @lillydalliesaboutthings 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    this didn't sound like the type of post hardcore I like. This like 2010's post hardcore. I would have expected it to be more like at the drive in. But the video was good. That's what matters.

    • @elk3407
      @elk3407 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nontree11 This didn't even sound hardcore. I miss bands like I Create.

    • @audkyrie
      @audkyrie 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      its all good g's

    • @desolatesoul2304
      @desolatesoul2304 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      FOR THOSE OF YOU OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER, this sounds a lot like 2005'ish bands that I used to listen to. It is Post-Hardcore; especially in the Calif. scene.

    • @MayonnaiseOreo
      @MayonnaiseOreo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out the first album from Secret Lives of the Freemasons. The one with the really shitty album cover. One of the best in the genre. There's also Goodnight Alchemy from Trophy Scars.

    • @derek.invyckb
      @derek.invyckb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      reminded me of odd project. you had posthardcore and in about 2002 2003 it got morphed into few things. thursday, saosin, from autumn to ashes, norma jean, poison the well, thrice. well a little while after... we wanted to throw our metalcore metal influences into it and you got songs that sounded like this. Chiodos did this style really well... I was hoping for a good ol fashion tremelo breakdown with minor 2nds. a la dillinger escape plan or botch.

  • @felixstuemke4164
    @felixstuemke4164 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video!!! really sounds like old escape the fate stuff

  • @tylerhoffman4037
    @tylerhoffman4037 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to say after all this time this still rocks in my Spotify playlist. Cheers from 2019

  • @purple2cheeseburger
    @purple2cheeseburger 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same dude from Part 2. Same question as before. Same love for your prodigal music talent.

  • @hyperdazedesu7350
    @hyperdazedesu7350 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    love to see you do a How To: Math Rock

  • @MrLeviathan34
    @MrLeviathan34 7 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    "How to be 2008-era Silverstein"

    • @hakongray
      @hakongray 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andy Frey It kinda reminds me of the theme going in the album "Death dealers" by adept, and its soooooo pretty!!!!!

  • @nou.5822
    @nou.5822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me a lot of Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas. Sounds very good!

  • @N8sLaxLife
    @N8sLaxLife 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how after using this as inspiration to rewrite one of my old songs, I made something awesome. I hate how after searching Post Hardcore on Apple Music to get more inspiration literally the first song I listen to (Tears Don't Fall by Bullet For My Valentine), I ended up writing something in the same key, tempo, and using the same notes for some parts. Ah, music.

  • @travisnelson4035
    @travisnelson4035 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You make everything look and sound so easy! Props to you, brother.

  • @dmpunk
    @dmpunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 second in and I know this will be one of the best things I've ever heard!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aw man, you're too kind. Thank you very much!

  • @LouieNJ
    @LouieNJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If this had "clean interlude/verse picking" it would basically be old school Saosin.

    • @the.negative
      @the.negative 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This IS old school Saosin lol

  • @IvanShlyk
    @IvanShlyk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow this song is really good

  • @derrfair
    @derrfair 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need more people doing post hardcore, its an amazing genre

  • @Taylor74b
    @Taylor74b 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THIS GIVES ME INSPIRATION AGAIN!!!!

  • @dragonoid510
    @dragonoid510 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just am in love with that chorus
    TBH this sounds perfect for an anime op

  • @brendanbagwell
    @brendanbagwell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I caught that Punk-O-Matic riff in there ;)

  • @COYM_1908
    @COYM_1908 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most underrated channel on youtube.

  • @kionmahuermicio9860
    @kionmahuermicio9860 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:49 sounds like *"One night and one more time
    Thanks for the memories even though they weren't"*

  • @DaJerseyJunkie
    @DaJerseyJunkie ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best kind of music I don’t care what anybody says.

  • @St33zy-P
    @St33zy-P 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was expecting a pierce the veil vibe but this is equivalent to that, keep this up man!

  • @Instate_dnb
    @Instate_dnb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    please put these examples up to download! some of the most beautiful instrumentals I've heard!

  • @stseraf
    @stseraf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think part of lead these things show go to vocals, anyway outstanding work, thanks guys, looking forward to your djent song

  • @dragonkitty7519
    @dragonkitty7519 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent a good couple of minutes looking for this song and I finally found it! I love it :)

  • @jamieso7
    @jamieso7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are brilliant dude, the format and layout is fun and easy to follow. Mega-talented!!?

  • @reyla3132
    @reyla3132 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMFG THIS IS SO GORGEROUS
    IM IN LOVE WITH THIS SONG

  • @christopherfairchild2185
    @christopherfairchild2185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    First video of yours that i'vr seen. I subscribed within the first minute and I hit that stupid bell shortly after. This would be so fun to add vocals to!

  • @SenseiIceman
    @SenseiIceman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subtle hint of rise against this is so great

  • @az1m3th
    @az1m3th 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for those tabs to be released... hopefully in .GPX format and with drums to play to!

  • @Twizzlahs
    @Twizzlahs 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos help me learn a lot more than might be expected lol

  • @jaekdoe3029
    @jaekdoe3029 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That chorus honestly is beautiful

  • @drewcaudill8393
    @drewcaudill8393 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You broke that down really good and made a really awesome song. Nice job my doods

  • @xMasterxRazorx
    @xMasterxRazorx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video explains why I love this genre

  • @TheDutchDemon010
    @TheDutchDemon010 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    got goosebumps nice dudes keep up the good work :)
    i learn alot thanks to you guys
    greetings from holland !!!

  • @nunolance23
    @nunolance23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having some real fun watching your "How to" series, and I guess I'm your 19.000th subscriber! Have a great day :D

    • @nunolance23
      @nunolance23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      came back to this video after 5 years and you have 300k subs more! your channel got huge! congrats man!!

  • @deangoff4748
    @deangoff4748 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually really good

  • @ksatriabajahitam1140
    @ksatriabajahitam1140 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is A BIG HELP for me , thanks guys

  • @kuchi214
    @kuchi214 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    my kind of music. subscribed

  • @yanlatawiec7519
    @yanlatawiec7519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    they are actually sick at making songs, keep it up

  • @coopza
    @coopza 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @Ian-Threaded
    @Ian-Threaded 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is beautiful

  • @niteshademusic5262
    @niteshademusic5262 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your tunes man

  • @VTRDC27
    @VTRDC27 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that chorus lead riff sounds awesome

  • @alexsurh1472
    @alexsurh1472 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are inspiration! Thanks for existing!

  • @karangupta2292
    @karangupta2292 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I listen to this song all the time

  • @sgbhawkman6649
    @sgbhawkman6649 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    By far my favorite one to date! Keep rocking man!

  • @mrfender5001
    @mrfender5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz do a tutorial on how you record your guitar tracks!! Like plug-ins if you use any amp Sims or pedals. How you mix, quad tracks? Panning, how you EQ and compress and how you master!! Plz Plz do a video on it!!

  • @shanetrain90
    @shanetrain90 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is weird but the second part of the intro riff reminds me of "We Didn't Start The Fire" by Billy Joel Lol. You guys killed it great job! Rock On \m/

  • @thecampfire4877
    @thecampfire4877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That sounds frickin amazing!

  • @chrislopez9997
    @chrislopez9997 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic composition skills

  • @UncertainSound
    @UncertainSound 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was awesome!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heyyy thanks, buddy! :D

  • @mus1cal4ddict76
    @mus1cal4ddict76 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kinda reminds me of early paramore. Good jobs huys

  • @michaelroberge4400
    @michaelroberge4400 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick riffs dude

  • @professorreligion
    @professorreligion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, I know which power chords I’m playing in Drop C tuning (C5, C5#, and D5#). Does this mean I’m in the key of C since C is the first power chord? How do I know which minor scales do I use? Do I use the scales dependent on the notes in the progression? I need some clarification 😅

  • @guitarist4life00
    @guitarist4life00 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    killer work man

  • @insxmnialas1637
    @insxmnialas1637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s tone is killer asf!! It sounds like Chunk! No Captain Chunk! What gear did you use?

  • @kabztube
    @kabztube 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice playing and writing!

  • @juliodefreitas157
    @juliodefreitas157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome 💙👍

  • @stevenlicatesi9453
    @stevenlicatesi9453 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving these videos guys! love the vibe and skill. \m/

  • @LEWDBD
    @LEWDBD 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your music dude, do something with your talent you are so good

  • @tigrederd
    @tigrederd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude thank you for this series!

  • @kirakirai8321
    @kirakirai8321 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sick, you guys are sick as hell! love ur videos

  • @MotivGuy94
    @MotivGuy94 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hate to be a weeb... But i can easily see this as an anime song some vocals over the danananana na na part if... You can actually tell what part im even talking about. Awesome vids awesome songs surprisingly helpful

  • @b3yourself91
    @b3yourself91 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do a how to make Power metal!

  • @LucasGonzalez-yu6ny
    @LucasGonzalez-yu6ny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love your Guitar

  • @dethkok3869
    @dethkok3869 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    your songs sound like anime openings and i love them

  • @bfedwi9489
    @bfedwi9489 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video dude. this sound like escape the fate (Y)

  • @karolsomething7143
    @karolsomething7143 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just what I was looking for! Damn it! you guys are awesome.

  • @danielbn97
    @danielbn97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the more accuracy tutorial i ever saw on yt

  • @youngmosh
    @youngmosh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is rad as hellllll

  • @wenie417
    @wenie417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love you so much for this

  • @jimcurtis9052
    @jimcurtis9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    and yet you make it all look so easy. :)

  • @wertknickster
    @wertknickster 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This most closely resembles saosin. Love this video.

  • @desolatesoul2304
    @desolatesoul2304 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aww, great little tutorial. Thanks!

  • @Shamoomusic
    @Shamoomusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Bitchin Octave Chord Leads. Step 4, I felt that.

  • @resemble6596
    @resemble6596 ปีที่แล้ว

    This goes to my playlist brother :> make more pleaseee💯