Win your lane with this one simple trick
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If, as an offlaner, you get into the situation where its 4vs4 creeps in front of your tower you will still have to deny MORE than last hit because the upcomming creepwave will theoretically always meet near the safelanes tower. But since there is now creeps in the way of that (because you managed so) you will have one or two creeps of the old creepwave survive as the new creepwave arrives.
You explain concepts like creep equilibrium so much better than any of my friends ever did trying to teach me how to lane. Thank you BSJ!
One thing I do is to block all but one of the creeps as much as possible because it lets the opposing creeps focus down one of mine and passively make it easier to draw the equilibrium back towards my tower.
manipulating the range in front works as well
@@nicksmith3431 the arteezy block
I've always done this since i learned about creep blocking back in what 2013 lmao. people say it sucks. glad i finally see someone agree with me.
@@afrocious8281 as they say whatever works for u it
works for u
@@afrocious8281 the reason why its bad is because enemy will get free cs, free cs = free gold and xp. if you are down 1 creep, enemy will do more damage to you. its fine in lower ranks (divine down) to let a creep just die because in those bracket almost no one punish anything during laning stage lmao. I know this because I smurf to play with my friends, no one punishes anything in those bracket.
I literally learned so much about this game from your videos alone.
"literally'" was not needed here.
@@souslesbombes I literally put "literally" wherever the hell I want
@@Zestieee And I'll correct you whenever I want.
@@souslesbombes deal.
@@souslesbombes but you're wrong see. Because yeah, you can learn. But you can also like literally learn like literally ya know?
The second part about keeping ranged creep outside of tower range is what I was missing :O mind blown
Ah! I do the same thing legion did. But also sometimes try too much to get the range last hit instead of giving it up. Stopping it earlier instead of right before tower. That's a great piece of info.
In herald the safelaner just creep blocks so our wave (offlane) just goes right into their tower and we end up with the equilibrium second wave
I do this every time, and every time I sit under my safe lane tower and yell at myself after... (:
I would love to see a vod on heroes in different elos and why they so prevalent and what makes them reliable and vice versa, it would really be a great help for newer players like me their are a lot of heroes and I have a job and a life so not all the time to play all heroes
I believe bjs stance on this is that you should try to copy the high MMR players the most you can
borrow from top 3 highest win rate on each position/role. The top 3 tends to be meta heroes which means they're safe picks that require no strategy.
This guy gave me a 1on1 session playing as core, and I improved my playstyle 100% no joke
from archon5 to ancient 3
It can actually be better if the opponent blocks their wave or their ranged is under tower so your creeps die faster under tower fire. Also a good thing to note is that when your 4 pulls a wave, you can drag the enemy creeps to behind your tower to perfectly last hit and deny, though make sure to not leave any allied creep to maintain the balance.
Another thing to note is that a lot of higher MMR enemy pos5 can pull their lanes using the hard camp so having both blocked might be beneficial (Enemy might block the hard camp on their own, just dont deward it)
Thanks bsj! Very concise. I love this kind of content because makes me feel clever once I get it. :)
3:00 how do u aggro the creep so that they attack the range creep first? do u manually attack ur own range creep? i usually right click enemy to aggro creep but have no idea how to do that when no enemy hero is not around, chat please share your wisdom with me
u can right click any enemy hero or creep on the map :)
@@katelouise2103 wtf thank u so much
@@katelouise2103 i know we can drag creep within 550 range by attacking hero but i thought it only work when I'm near a hero
@@kkirlin07 No it works globally too :)
@3:01 how to aggro the creeps to follow after you?
3:02 how did aggro the creeps when there was no enemy hero in range?
At 6:00 : Is it a good idea to blast the lane with spells so that the creeps die and our creeps push into their tower and get killed faster?
It is a good idea if the creeps meet closer to your tower, then you have some space to brawl but if the creeps are in front of the safelane tower you would have to tower dive, which is Dangerous
Question- At 3:02, when there isn't any opponent hero in lane.. How do we aggro the creeps?
u can aggro creeps by a-clicking any enemy hero on the map, they dont have to be in your lane. only the creeps have to be in range. the enemy hero you are issuing an attack command on does not.
can someone please tell me how to arrgo the creeps again at minute 3:00? I keep replaying it and still couldn't figure out how.
What do you do if you are mid and your enemy mid laner rotates and your team gets pissed at you for not rotating
As an OFFLANER, You might want to trade more, so doesn't it make sense to kill the melee creep so that we can trade on a creep advantage, push the wave in and pull to negate the previous push. Especially for BH and slark. I maybe wrong but thats what I do in my games
The format in this video is actually perfect. Please do more
WOW............................. thanx bro.. i love your videos.. so amazing... ive learn many things from you... thanks a lot bro..
How did he aggro the enemy creep wave to his own range creep at 3:05 once the enemy heroes are not within the aggro pull range? Did he use the global aggro to pull it? If that is the case, I didn't see him clicking on the enemy hero(because the creeps would attack bounty first, but I see they go straight for the range creep instead)... This is definitely a mechanic I am not familiar with... if anyone can explain how he did that, this is super important and will be very helpful.
No hidden special aggro mechanic there. The replay is just not showing his perspective.
and if i'm the hc playing against heroes i can't trade with (viper, necro), should i pull into the tower?
The next wave will push and it will be even harder to farm...
What do I do in this situation?
I think the best thing to do is try to pull into the range creep without getting into the tower range, am I right?
That was a brilliant video honestly thanks for the content BSJ🔥
Appreciate your making videos like this BSJ, keep 'em coming.
Thanks very much for this video. I kept hearing you mention getting defensive creep agro, but I wasn't fully understanding why it was important until now.
And of course, as carry players, do the same thing. Don't trade the ranged creep but pull aggro after the ranged is secured and then pull the wave back :)
ty bsj, could you do the same concept but as what should the pos 1, 4 and 5 do when you pull this way i mainly play 4 and 1 but to get my fast queues i gotta play some 5 as well,
thanks again buddy really love the content very helpful
This was excellent. I was missing a few things here and there.
i've been guilty of pulling the creeps to close to be unable to deny the ranged creep, it is frustrating, because i feel like i should really know the distance by now
How did you aggro creeps at 3:03? I thought you always needed to right click enemy hero in creep aggro range?
It can be any enemy hero, technically you could right click enemy mid laner or something if you don't have vision of any enemy heroes in your lane
Doesn't have to be in aggro range; it works globally.
Is this worthwhile to do as a 4 as well? I play 4/5 and I've emulated this in my games.
herald question, 3:05 how do you aggro the creeps when there's no enemy hero to target?
you can target enemy heroes that are far away (even on other lanes) to aggro creeps
@@Skzzik thank you
Sometimes, it doesn't work. Hero Dynamics matters. Sometimes, you want to get LVL 2 faster then they do and one extra spell can secure kills and zone out the supports. Offlane is not always about offlane hero. POS 4 hero matters also.
now how do i counter this when my opponents do this in my lane?
noob question but at 3:02 how do you agro creeps onto ranged with no enemy hero around to click?
drawing creep aggro works even if a hero is far away, you just have to move your camera onto any visible enemy hero on the map and right click them to draw creep aggro.
@@ppapuli9009 ah I never thought it was global! thanks
Please, how do you do to pull the aggro if no enemy hero is around? (minute 3:00)
by right clicking any enemy creep or hero on the map (u have to move ur camera quickly)
This is a CRUTIAL trick to know. Thankss
definitely gonna try this out later
BSJ doin the Lord's work.
Nice explanation very clear ty
3 out of 4 games my pos5 aggros directly, standing under tower und pulls the first wave in tower range. Pushing it out to never see it again or I have to spend so much resources.
Thx bsj this helped a lot!
Some high quality advice right here. Thanks BSJ
The ranged creep mini game! Good heuristic.
I can't believe you actually read my comment and made a video on this topic! Thanks a lot Brian!
How to agrro creeps without enemy hero?
High value content! People know how to do creep aggro but fail to use it properly!
Always brilliant BSJ
Great tips! Now, can we get a video on what to do when your support sits in lane soaking xp and pushing waves into their tower? The disparity in my games is amazing. Pure feast or famine.
you need to talk to your support
doesnt work man....talking to ur supports just makes them do it more....even if u talk to them calmly or angrily both gives same results then tried pinging only no mic didnt work either....then tried in chat only no ping or mic didnt work either....they even contest ur cs....one time i asked why are u doing that ...he/she replied i need gold for mana boots😅....i just go along with it coz its gonna be mana boots>soul ring>blink>dagon etc....they wont even buy euls or force .....btw sea server player and this is normal at all mmr brackets.....dont trust me? go watch any sea players games its sad but true ☺️
@@kv1000 Nailed it. Then I try rolling support and get stuck with cores that cant cs and havent watched any of BSJs videos on lane equilibrium. MMR hell is real.
What do u do if the safelaners pull your creep wave, get their ranged creep killed, and similarly freeze it in front of their tower? That's what i see happening pretty often in my lane. As a 4, i try to either get favorable trades or drag their wave from behind the tower, but the 3 can't really help since he's stuck freezing the wave in front of our tower.
Side pull w the large camp. Stacked camp works good too.
Don’t block the creepwave when it spawns. If it’s close to their tower they won’t be able to pull the remaining meele creeps to their second waves ranged creep without pulling the meele creeps into tower range. You can also try to block the enemies first creep wave since it doesn’t Aggro you, to have it in their tower at the first place. Since bounty runes are often contested you have to be careful pulling this off tho
I admire you dedication on educating dota society.
Thank you
REALLY HELPFULL CONTENT
BSJ started wearing tank tops to show his newfound muscles, how am I to concentrate on range creep?
Dude! I was doing exact mistakes 😂 Never again. Thanks for enlightening us!
Ty another knowledgeable content
Whenever I try to do this, my 4 tries to hit the carry and pulls the lane all over the place xD
Sir bsj can you do a counter pick in lanes of heroes I'm sorry if I asked you I'm just an archon who doesn't understand how to counter
Well, I'm just trying to think + some experience. For instance, if there's dark seer, the best counter is Oracle because he dispels the ion shell and dark seer is basically useless. If you have 2 melee heroes against, it is a good idea to pick kind of a trader, such as Slark or Legion, because of their passives. If there's large amount of burst damage such as Zeus, Dark Willow, it is better to take something like Faceless Void (his 1 ability counters burst). If there's Veno or Spirit brekaer, it is better to take Ranged carry, because they have very high kill potential. I'm trying to think like that + also think about starting items: kill potential = orb or wraith band. silly lane / pokers = stick. (btw also an archon))
Me in 3k wondering why my lane partner is nuking the creeps
comment! Wtf ive been gone for couple of weeks and so many videos! good constistency keep it up all the best :)
what about mid lane where there's little to none space to do this?
Go watch topson
BSJ, can you do a pulling video, I feel like in this video if carry player does exactly the same thing, the lane would still be near safelane tower. And if that io tried to stack pull rubick wouldn't be able to stop because CK and io could just kill him when you are last hitting creeps near your tower.
at 5:05 how can he have a 400 gold advantage even though they have the same cs?
Ck buying regen, jinada stealing gold, ck maybe missing money creep, hitting small camp instead. Could be any/all
spectre guide when
this is premium content bro
But doesn't this guarantee enemy to hit lvl 2 first?
watching this video as an enigma player is like " lmao they cant keep lanes near their towers xD"
Went your build on slark yesterday, 23-4 😁👍 gg wp, and great clips!
Thanks to you my win rate in the last 10 games as safe lane is 80% :)
Great video!
yeah, i played 4 mostly. when my offlane hoarding too much creeps i definitely go nut, they following guides but don't understand its purposes. that way, we under leveled and enemy could rush us into the tower and kill us then the creeps get cleared by the tower which nobody gonna benefit from its exp if nobody tp to the tower. a complete disaster.
it's mostly happen at level 2 to level 3 cap, in the videos dawn is level 2 while clinkz is level 3 and that's could be a huge kill potential. leading to faster level 5 and level 6 eventually.
at min 5ish, BSJ is lvl4 while CK is 5, how that happens ? I don't know why sometimes i feel i do things perfectly and still get figured out that the opponent had higher XP
Either the 5 pulling giving the hc full xp, or 5 half pulling, sending bsj a double wave that will catch him up
BSJ, new idea for a video
Where to ward in the present meta for maximum duration without getting it dewarded
How to play around your support wards
Dewarding enemy wards tactically without dying in the process
BSJ, collab with Grubby when
Dota hurt my brain sometime
Very helpful video
just the video i needed :)
do a video explaining why moonshard first item isnt very good please.. this herald moonshard fetish is getting absurd
this was a very good, basic video. Nice job.
Im looking for Pos 4 stuff atm. Guess this is tailored "more" towards offlaner, but still, might give me an edge in herald as another way to adjust the equilibrium ;)
As a pos4 In herald you could just pull the creep agro yourself to assist the offlaner and also nuke the enemy ranged creep if he isn’t going to be able to go for it. Simply sentrying their pull camp usually works at this level and eventually you’ll be able to get the lane back to a safe distance from your tower. Make sure you communicate or atleast I try to let your offlaner know not to push the lane by auto attacking the creeps and instead just last hit 😂. Best of luck in the trench mate
In herald , just pick an annoying pos 4 and keep killing their pos5 or pos1. You don't even need to do aggro tricks as your offlaner will never be able to take advantage
imagine an educational video against gorc laning xD
Unfortunately these tricks do not work in low mmr. Most low mmr players have no support IQ and likes to trade early or tends to always draw creep aggro everywhere. Oh and you can't forget that as offline your support most likely leaves lane leaving you getting 2v1 pressured with the enemy allowing them to deny and hold creep wave.
if your support leaves just side pull ? then static the creeps before your tower, ez pz
@@xtranormalCARTOONS88 how are you going to do that with 2 heros hitting you and denying you? It's a free lane if your support leaves eveytime and most matchups their pos 5 would always outburst you.
why do this, when u can pick enigma and just deny the ranged ? =)
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no idea why blocking all but 1 creep isnt more popular. pushes the wave twords you...
no wonder ppl are getting beetter at the game and I'm left behind in the rank now fkkk BSJ
DOMINATE YOUR LANE WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK! 9K PLAYERS HATE HIM!!111
Sifting through the fundamentals playlist, it's a shame that the videos change to clickbait-style titles around this point. It makes the information so much harder to parse because i dont know what concept the video is going to be about. Maybe since these videos are older now, you could consider descriptive titles instead of clickbait, in order to futureproof and integrate these videos into a more cohesive and searchable fundamentals series?
Just fucking pull bro
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upd: great tip BSJ, I hope offlaners against me aren''t watching your video xD
Wp bro
Man i miss the old BSJ
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