I had a comment all done and I lost it so I will try again. I LOVED the concertos and I must be a fan in the making of Ritornello Concertos since my favorites, by a whole bunch, were 3 of the first 5. I really enjoyed to Mozart, the Haydn and drum roll..... the Dvorak. What I got from these selections was what I was looking for when I decided to "try to get into" classical music. I really enjoyed the Trumpet Concerto so more of that please. Again, thank you so much for doing this and all the enthusiasm and work you put into it. My mother is at that stage of her medical/life journey that she is becoming very difficult and even belligerent to me and the nurses and you and this program have been a lifeline by giving me something to focus on that takes my mind off the grief caused by caring for a declining elderly parent. I am not sure I would make it through this difficult time if I did not have music in my life so again thanks to you, all the music makers and all the music lovers for this wonderful gift.
I am terribly sorry about what you are going through, and honored that I am able to help you get through it. I am sure that everyone here is with you in spirit, and wishes you all the best.
I also read that the cellists were not so popular. Violinists were much more famous. That also when Dvořák did the 40 concerts with Lachner and Wihan in Czechia before going to US, violinist Ferdinand Lachner had much more opportunities than cellist Hanuš Wihan. Then Wihan said ideas for cello concerto, but Dvorak didn't agree with some ideas. But the new book about their collaboration is in Czech language. But in violin concerto he made lot of changes according to Joachim. Its interesting cellists are now popular very much too.
Thank you! I've been listening to these 10 concertos for years. Your talk helped me gain a deeper understanding of the pieces which has increased my enjoyment immensely! I'll keep listening and you keep talking!
An excellent, concise elucidation, along with your typically well chosen set of examples. (I might have blown a gasket if Beethoven PC4 had not been included.) You definitely have a gift for presenting your various topics. If the Critic/TH-cam gig ever gets tiresome, I think you'd make a fine teacher of classical music appreciation.
In this video you remind me of my beloved late music teacher who taught me everything about music I needed to become a life-long enthusiast. Thank you David.
I have zero complaints about this list. ALL are excellent concertos. If there is a list of the 11-20 essential concertos, I vote for either (or both) the Piano Concerto No. 2 or Cello Concerto by Saint-Saëns.
Great list…and as always, so wonderful to listen to your thoughts, analysis and explanation of each work’s structure/form…dare we hope for a second installment, continuing the timeline onwards, following on from the Rachmaninov?!
“Good old Rachmaninov. The second piano concerto. Never misses!” For me this music will always be about Tom Ewell fantasising over Marilyn Monroe in The seven year itch.
Not particularly familiar with the Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven or Sibelius concertos mentioned here. Also, not come across the returnello term before. I seem to know symphonies better. As I really like Beethoven and Sibelius symphonies, I think that it really is worth me listening to those two concertos. I remember hearing about the premier of the two Beethoven symphonies that went with the piano concerto, yet somehow never got round to hearing it.
Dave, I've always wondered if Beethoven could have known Mozart's 'Jeunehomme' concerto, No.9, which also introduces the soloist right at the outset? And why might Mozart never repeated the idea?
Dave, I love your series. I wonder if you will ever get to a widescreen format for your channel? I would love to see you get out of that 4:3 configuration. Just a thought. 🤔
It’s not 4:3, not on my iPad anyway. I already have black bars at the top and bottom in full screen mode. If it was 4:3 the bars would be on the sides (I am referring to landscape orientation of course).
Wonderful work as always. I should have known this list 50 years ago. But I think beginners don’t care much about form or structure. It’s the next step or next-next step. What about the list for very beginners just to take them into the classical music world. Rodrigo’s Aranjuez wil be in it.
I disagree with you. I think "beginners" are interested in what they are listening to and want to now as much about it as possible. I don't think there's any need to dumb it down.
@@DavesClassicalGuide OK, I understand what you mean. I never intended to look down beginners, but maybe I did unconsciously. I myself was very late to notice or feel about form-structure things. Thanks anyway.
Yes! After a few years of listening to classical music I still consider myself a newbie. Over the summer I heard Aranjuez and it hit me like no other piece of music to date. I own 4 different versions, listened to at least 20 more and have gifted many for birthdays and Christmas.
Are there composers' pieces where they were out of comfort zone, taking risk with unusual ideas, not conventional. Tchaikovsky noticed Clesta instrument. And that he didn't want any other of his colleagues to use it first in their compositions. He wanted to be first one. He admired composers though.
Says he's asthmatic and short on breath and then goes on to talk 30 minutes plus and uploads a video every other hour. Trumpeters could learn a thing or two from you.
Sometimes I come across TH-cam hidden channels that make me wonder: how on Earth this one doesn’t have 1m subs?
Thank you. I often wonder the same thing! How do we do that?
I had a comment all done and I lost it so I will try again. I LOVED the concertos and I must be a fan in the making of Ritornello Concertos since my favorites, by a whole bunch, were 3 of the first 5. I really enjoyed to Mozart, the Haydn and drum roll..... the Dvorak. What I got from these selections was what I was looking for when I decided to "try to get into" classical music. I really enjoyed the Trumpet Concerto so more of that please. Again, thank you so much for doing this and all the enthusiasm and work you put into it. My mother is at that stage of her medical/life journey that she is becoming very difficult and even belligerent to me and the nurses and you and this program have been a lifeline by giving me something to focus on that takes my mind off the grief caused by caring for a declining elderly parent. I am not sure I would make it through this difficult time if I did not have music in my life so again thanks to you, all the music makers and all the music lovers for this wonderful gift.
I am terribly sorry about what you are going through, and honored that I am able to help you get through it. I am sure that everyone here is with you in spirit, and wishes you all the best.
I also read that the cellists were not so popular. Violinists were much more famous. That also when Dvořák did the 40 concerts with Lachner and Wihan in Czechia before going to US, violinist Ferdinand Lachner had much more opportunities than cellist Hanuš Wihan.
Then Wihan said ideas for cello concerto, but Dvorak didn't agree with some ideas. But the new book about their collaboration is in Czech language.
But in violin concerto he made lot of changes according to Joachim.
Its interesting cellists are now popular very much too.
Thank you! I've been listening to these 10 concertos for years. Your talk helped me gain a deeper understanding of the pieces which has increased my enjoyment immensely! I'll keep listening and you keep talking!
An excellent, concise elucidation, along with your typically well chosen set of examples. (I might have blown a gasket if Beethoven PC4 had not been included.) You definitely have a gift for presenting your various topics. If the Critic/TH-cam gig ever gets tiresome, I think you'd make a fine teacher of classical music appreciation.
I was able to recognize Tchaikovsky's intro as the intro of Classical Baby just by your rendition! :)
In this video you remind me of my beloved late music teacher who taught me everything about music I needed to become a life-long enthusiast. Thank you David.
I have zero complaints about this list. ALL are excellent concertos.
If there is a list of the 11-20 essential concertos, I vote for either (or both) the Piano Concerto No. 2 or Cello Concerto by Saint-Saëns.
I can never decide between the Beethoven fourth and fifth. But still, after sixty years, my favorite concertos.
Great list…and as always, so wonderful to listen to your thoughts, analysis and explanation of each work’s structure/form…dare we hope for a second installment, continuing the timeline onwards, following on from the Rachmaninov?!
Yes, actually.
@@DavesClassicalGuide oh yay you! Thank you! Blessings from California 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🥰
“Good old Rachmaninov. The second piano concerto. Never misses!” For me this music will always be about Tom Ewell fantasising over Marilyn Monroe in The seven year itch.
Not particularly familiar with the Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven or Sibelius concertos mentioned here. Also, not come across the returnello term before. I seem to know symphonies better. As I really like Beethoven and Sibelius symphonies, I think that it really is worth me listening to those two concertos. I remember hearing about the premier of the two Beethoven symphonies that went with the piano concerto, yet somehow never got round to hearing it.
Fascinating stuff. ❤️
Dave, I've always wondered if Beethoven could have known Mozart's 'Jeunehomme' concerto, No.9, which also introduces the soloist right at the outset? And why might Mozart never repeated the idea?
There's no way to know, but it's not an especially revolutionary idea.
Also David Bowie's Life on Mars is based on Rachmaninoff's 2nd!
Dave, I love your series. I wonder if you will ever get to a widescreen format for your channel? I would love to see you get out of that 4:3 configuration. Just a thought. 🤔
It doesn't bother me. I don't even really know what the difference is.
It’s not 4:3, not on my iPad anyway. I already have black bars at the top and bottom in full screen mode. If it was 4:3 the bars would be on the sides (I am referring to landscape orientation of course).
Wonderful work as always. I should have known this list 50 years ago. But I think beginners don’t care much about form or structure. It’s the next step or next-next step. What about the list for very beginners just to take them into the classical music world. Rodrigo’s Aranjuez wil be in it.
I disagree with you. I think "beginners" are interested in what they are listening to and want to now as much about it as possible. I don't think there's any need to dumb it down.
@@DavesClassicalGuide OK, I understand what you mean. I never intended to look down beginners, but maybe I did unconsciously. I myself was very late to notice or feel about form-structure things. Thanks anyway.
Yes! After a few years of listening to classical music I still consider myself a newbie. Over the summer I heard Aranjuez and it hit me like no other piece of music to date. I own 4 different versions, listened to at least 20 more and have gifted many for birthdays and Christmas.
Are there composers' pieces where they were out of comfort zone, taking risk with unusual ideas, not conventional.
Tchaikovsky noticed Clesta instrument. And that he didn't want any other of his colleagues to use it first in their compositions.
He wanted to be first one. He admired composers though.
Beginners? Was hoping for the inclusion of a *Concerto for Gong & Triangle* or two. Oh, well...
Says he's asthmatic and short on breath and then goes on to talk 30 minutes plus and uploads a video every other hour. Trumpeters could learn a thing or two from you.
That's why God made Albuterol.