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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
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Within the LAST 48 hours Valve has Sent out 1 OFFICIAL update in regards to TRADING and Dozens of others with a shadow UPDATE. In the meantime all MARKETPLACES have POSTED statements of what the future holds in terms of Buying, Selling and Trading. Today’s Video we BREAKDOWN some of these statements and what the Future holds for Trading skins inside Counter-Strike 2
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AS a Mandalorian Counter-Strike Player, I make videos discussing all & everything CSGO/CS2 related. We Breakdown every CS2 UPDATE, in CSGO/CS2 News Format, Documentary, CS2 Operation, CS2 Case, CSGO Skins, Counter-Strike 2 Limited Test, Open Beta, Full Release & CSGO/CS2 Major’s. Valve’s NEW “Statement”.. (CS2 TRADING) - เกม
Do YOU think Valve will Take this Further?
nah
I hope all gamba gets curbed from CS.
I hope so.
@@Electfried nah i like them
there should be no gamba sites at all... then finally they can focus on VAC.... dreams stay dreams tho
Market can’t crash if you can’t sell anything 🧠
HAHA YES
all these site make no money to valve so they dont really care the impact it will have on them, valve should just create there own full market at that point be removing the limit, but they probably wont since it will also need them to make money withdraw possible and that just asking to get people money laundering
@@aoki6332😂they make money indirectly and everybody know that
@@aoki6332 people will stop opening cases because the hype isn't there anymore.
if there is no market, it counts as crashed
Luke... The reason it has taken steam so long to act on gambling sites is simply because they do not want to act on them. Steam historically has only taken action when the gambling sites' controversy becomes too hot and gains outside interest. What happened at the major, with csgoempire rushing the stage, is enough for steam to want to take precaution, in the event that they do catch a lawsuit for allowing gambling sites to operate, they still have plausible deniability and evidence of them 'trying' to take action. P2P trading, and gambling sites as well, like it or not, boost the skin economy. Steam only makes x amount of millions off cases and market fees BECAUSE they have a real value tied to them, with easy cash out options. I sincerely believe that this is just Steam showing these gambling sites causing drama who their daddy is, and how easy it would be for Steam to shatter their glass houses if it ever did become necessary. Steam is not ethical. Steam also allows minors to gamble. It is run and fuelled 100% by money, and as long as they aren't getting sued, or dragged into childlike controversies, I highly doubt they care about gambling sites whatsoever.
This whole situation is weird but oddly I'm not very worried despite having a lot of money in skins and stickers. I am actually kinda praying that legit sites returning to bots can lead to valve reducing trade ban on items (copium?). But anyway, steam market isn't crashing, skinport and dmarket that to my knowledge operate normally aren't crashing, so the community seems to be taking this quite well.
Valve may not have intended for skins to become what they have - I'm almost 100% sure of it. But it's a major blessing for them that they managed to hit the jackpot with their idea, and I'm sure they realise it's one of the biggest reasons why their game has managed to stay relevant, hence they can never kill the market or trading.
No Market Trades = CS2 dies 100% so i don’t think that’s what valve wants.
yessir people really think Gaben is unaware of his 3 billion dollar skin market or the 100s of millions he makes on cases yearly.... Gaben and valve are known hands off libertarians I'm sure they are very proud of this insane unregulated free market experiment thing they've made, the government may shut it down eventually but valve wont
This whole situation is weird, if valve wanted they could change stuff with the api that would affect gamba sites but not p2p marketplaces in general, p2p marketplaces were the best option to use so far imo because you can always list ur items on multiple marketplaces and it's way more faster with trade holds while still having ur items usable in your inventory which makes this thing great, but it's so annoying that tho whole community and the innocent companies/users get hurt by this.
I still think valve could have been less agressive with this by making the update more towards gamba sites and not trying to end p2p forever like that.
THANK YOU for that outro! Same!
It's so crazy how we get an update like this while the game is still broken and riddled with cheaters.
Its because one is just hacking in order to win a comp match and the other is fucking with $$$ which can be taken to a federal level very fast
@@poloval7269 billion dollar company
how can you say that, i have like 3000hrs in cs and i would dare to say that 1 in a 200 match i get it's against a cheater. you make me think about my friends when they are bottom fragging and bitching about the "cheaters". GIT GUD
@@rtsoldat you are 1000% below 10k
@@rtsoldat get to 16k and its hit or miss ive been in games in a row with em
For people claiming this is somehow meant to prevent scam, this will in fact encourage it. You won't have people reporting the scammer as they won't be able to confirm where the item went exactly
bust don't get scammed nerd 😂😂😂
Will make the people checking for expensive skins in peoples inventories have a tougher time for sure though.
One optimistic way to look at it is if p2p sites can work around this and gambling sites really die that means so many more skins will be introduced on p2p sites that would’ve ultimately end up in the gambling inventory resulting in a market boom and much more transactions happening
Problem is if P2P comes back which is most likely will with extensions, gamba is 100% going too which will make valve take further action. I don't think they have done all this so far so this doesn't work for them.
Won’t be surprised in two weeks when there’s a whole new generation of gamba sites and methods
EMPIRE already said there working on some ALT ways to make it happen
Haha and empire was the site sending the people on stage during the major 😅😅😅
@@LukeEatsnot supporting empire idc what they do lol
I tell everyone the same thing; Don't invest any money you can't afford to lose entirely. You do not actually own anything inside CS. Valve has complete control over all assets and they can delete them whenever they want. This isn't the first update to impact skins, and it won't be the last. Just don't get caught holding when the really bad ones roll out.
Yep have said this before and its some of the most controversial content ive made lol
valve deleting billions of dollars of skins I think is the least worry everyone has 😂
@@foltyn_noah Tell me you missed the point without telling me you missed the point. It's not about "Valve deleting billions of dollars of skins." It's about the fact that you don't own any of them. They're not actual assets. "Billions of dollars of skins" don't even exist. The real value is $0. All it's gonna take is one guy talking to the US Congress and IRS and this whole thing will be over. And people wonder why no other game allows this stuff...
lul bros yappin
@@stevep6317Same thing goes for actual things *you* own because ze goverment say so and wants them now!!!!
It gets even crazier because think about this. Let’s say you want to get rid of your skins on one of the trustworthy marketplaces, if Valve patch all the potential workarounds with API keys and whatnot, then if you send the marketplace your $10000 knife, for 10 full days, you won’t be able to say your knife in their inv, and they won’t be able to have the item listed for sale. Shit’s crazy. Practically just regular trading between players, and IRL buying/selling with cash.
Ive been trying to understand all of this on what's the diffrence between P2P and bots is.
Isn't trading your stuff to a Bot basically the same as it were P2P, or am I completely miss understanding what P2P is?
I thankfully have been cashing out all my skins as of the start of this year, and pretty much gotten the bigger chunk of my inv out, through DMarket.
Is cashing out gonna be affected by this?
And is there a chance that valve will rollback these patches/changes?
I sold skin on buff today, it went smoothly without any problems, so I don't know if this update kills p2p
Luke been watching for a couple years now great content, could hypothetically and this is just a crazy statement/idea could valve be moving to make steam marketplace the only trading marketplace available? Example maybe down the road steam eliminates third party trading sites but allows their marketplace to have a cash out option thus eliminating competitors and also allowing them to have a fixed percentage rate of their choice. Doubtful idea but at this rate valve is liable to do crazy things
Ive thought about the same thing and talked about it in older mando monday's I just think it would be a bad move, it sounds dumb but it strips away the players freedom and takes away what skins are for players. Not against it just think otherwise. I also think valve would HATE to deal with the hassle that would bring.
@@LukeEats they 100% won't do it for another reason: if you could cash out steam wallet funds directly, their cases would be considered illegal gambling by most relevant countries
@@LukeEats very true keeping up with KYC alone would have most of them pulling their hair out thanks for the feedback!
These gambling sites that rushed the stage how dumb can you be....Literally signed their own death warrant.
To clear up confusion, can you list good bot sites youve encountered by any chance
Dmarket is pretty solid
I hope you can make sense of this trade update... everyone is just guessing!
Is BUFF still save to use right now??
Please could you add the links in your description of all the statements you refer to.
Will next time, just look at the user or site I have briefed over, the buff one is from buff 163
Valve fixing the community's gambling addiction with one update lmao
Pls can someone answer me. I have skins in my inventory. I am being able to sell them in 10 days for real money?
Nametag also broken asf, no more red icon in inventory same with skin desciption
I thought my game was Bugged LMAO
Yes same in my inv
whats ur res in the gameplay???
1920x1080 some of the recorded footage is in 4k
Damn,this happens when i want to bulk buy alot of p250 sand dunes
All because of that gambling site and that person who ran into the stage...
I mean tbh I think they wanted to roll this out prior just couldn’t because of the major since the pros and some players cried when updated during the major
noticed you can bypass the hiding for items & storage units
how?
I bought gloves off buff market yesterday 🤷
I don't see how this is supposed to affect P2P. Buff in fact requires you steam account API code, which allows them to see your inventory at all times.
I don't know either, I just know the sites cant track the trades
traded items are not shown in inventory for 10 days so buff doesnt know if the trade happened.
What if you can't see inventory from api?
which are the preferred bot marketplaces for skins then
There is no good site, all bots sites have overpriced items so you always lose a lot on those trades, trading is pretty much dead without p2p
Valve not wanting their skins to be used as a currency is not false. Valve loves that it is a currency because it means a population of people use their buys skins. What they want is to divert the traffic going to all these websites back to their csgo boxes. The game is lowkey dying because of the player numbers decrease so much. Valve is a greedy coorporation like any other so It always traces back to influence and money.
the most funny what could happen is no site can sell the skins anymore so even dragon lore would be nothing worth anymore
Awesone move by valve. Top 10 ways to destroy your economy
Valve : There can't be gambling and scamming in my game if the game is dead 🧠
blame the gambling site owners who pulled this shit. If they would have just been cool, valve wouldn't be doing this.
The thing is, VALVE maybe never intended skins to be traded as they are. But because of that, people are so intrested in skins. And they can´t deny that their skins business is fluctuating the way it is because of the people. Otherwise they never would have made that kind of money in the first place.
Thanks for the update
Man that ending was GOLD!!!
Right?!
Whats Gamba?
So is this for only cs2 items, or for all steam items, like tf2 items and such?
Honestly don't know
Just bought cheap item for dota 2 and cs2, dota 2 was visable cs2 was not. So it seems like just cs2 for now.
Good thing
why does the market always crash instantly after i buy skins
D:
I just deposited funds on buff to buy a karambit, now I'm scared to buy but can't withdraw the funds. This is really concerning
dont be scared, valve knows the importance of these marketplaces and will find a fix
wait a few days. There's way too much money involved in buff for it to become obsolete. Whatever happens your funds are safe, they'll implement new systems soon.
If you want to sell the buff blance to me do dm im willing to buy
When new operation ... 😅
Are you by a chance the world renowned Luke foods second channel?
Sadly not
If valve wasnt so lazy, they dont want to find and stop specific sites, which i get. But, they lazy solution is to try to make a general change to stop gambling. This being any kind of restriction and what not. If they where more active to stop sites they wouldnt have to create such hazards on the marketplace and affect peoples money this much.
if gamba site got ban , so cs2 case opening is only to gamba
I haven’t even played cs in months. I havent sold my skins but I’m not playing until valve fixes the cheaters and adds some actual content
Danger zone cases the best for cs2
I've said this many times, and i think the reason valve has next to no anticheat is because modern anti cheats dont work. getting a kernel access anticheat doesnt work in the modern world. If valve wants to release an anticheat, they have to find something better than kernel access anticheat AND they need to be the first ones to make it. way too much in my opinion, and i think valve is working on that right now. i think cs2 released garbage so valve can actually update the game, cause if cs2 was crazy on launch then it would have to go crazier for the updates. just my opinion
Gamba???? Took me half the video to realise what the hell you meant.....
This is alright men
Security measures to stop scams
Like they changed upstream that now u can’t see items for 10days
Authenticating a transaction was also maybe verifying the items in inventory,
Downstream now the platforms have to make some changes to authenticate the trade
Steam market is working they need to copy how it is verifying the trade.
Steam has done there jobs , devs of other platforms need to work
Also if u can’t trade for 10 days
Prize will stonk for some items which are liquid traded 🤙🏻😂🤙🏻😂, already seeing for gamma Dopplers
lol everyone forgot that valve lawyered up recently ?
Is skin port a bot trade site? Not gambling?
Bot trade site
Was literally just about to buy my dream knife, thanks a lot valve! Can’t wait to hop into a premier game today with cheaters!!!! But noooo skins are the problem…
rip skinbid for ohne, feels bad he was so happy with it
valve's waiting for any mistakes from the trading websites, any mistake and they will be the only place to buy skins
if i only used keydrop should i revoke api?
Lol I would
@@LukeEatshow then?
@@mwtycafe /dev/apikey on end of steam link
@@mwtycafe Google - '' How to revoke my API steam key '' ( I won't sent link here ). I just did it recently with all the things happening right now
@@mwtycafe google it maybe ?
The literal only reason I care about this drama is because Valve is working on fixing it rather than the game itself rn...
I hope it doesn't lowers the value of my skins
Nothing can crash if no one can sell lol
You keep saying this effects gamba sites.
All the gamba sites still work since they never stopped using bots.
This update is wholey to stop the p2p trading sites because they require your API key which is much worse than giving your skins to a bot. Because the the API key can steal all your skins without you knowing it and even buy/gift games on your account.
They all use p2p and have been for the last few years, if you have bots they will be banned by valve. Terms of service show bot accounts specifically for gamba is a banable offense
That's a you problem if youre getting api scamned, id rather sell and trade my skins as soon as i want, deposit my money instantly to my bank, instead of trading it to a bot, then waiting a week, then waiting for it to be sold. If you cant avoid api scams maybe you should just avoid 3rd party sites as a whole
The steam market so ass to use right now. hurts my brain.
What you do with skins play with bots? when there are cheaters everywhere
Sold a skin to DMarket last night and the transaction is still pending
Damn what the heck, just be patient you'll get ur funds and use bot marketplaces after atleast for the near future, will update if anything changes!
I just sold an item on dmarket to check and it all went through and got confirmed within 10 minutes, so that's interesting. But with the new changes things may be buggy, so be patient.
Don’t use dmarket… worst website
@@LukeEatswhat you mean by bot marketplace?
@@LukeEats yeah thank goodness it wasn’t a major skin, I guess we will see what happens, cheers
My inv is around 4-5K worth, but I hope the market crashes so hard the prices went back to 2014-15 era
Honestly, I'm taking a break from the game with this update. First, Valve destroyed casual play by deleting 1/3rd of their map pool. Second, they destroyed their MM by disabling Overwatch and gimping the already barely functional VAC, and with this update, they essentially killed P2P Marketplaces, forcing the average person to use either the Steam Marketplace (Which is a crazy markup and not even worth it to sell on unless you are trying to buy games) or Bots (which are already annoying asf).
All on its own, like I'm glad that gambling sites are getting shut down, but honestly. This is the straw that broke the camels back for me. When Valve figures out a solution to their cheating situation or adds back a couple maps, then I'll come back, but even opening up the main menu of this game now just hits me with a wall of depression.
Same here, its crazy how fast they react to this but i have spin bots in every second game since release. Ill wait until trade sites work and sell my inventory. Atleast i made a good ammount of profit holding those skins but ist sad they killed the game.
Nooooooo my in game pixels, what will I do?????
The update is a W imo. I don't mind sites moving towards bots at all. It'll cut down the p2p sellers that have horrid trade times, severe the last ties skin sites like roll and empire have to skins, and we'd have peace&quiet for a week before "friends" start magically adding you after buying a few skins.
Bot sites are more expensive and it takes longer time to sell something especially whwn you want a fast cashout for one item. And cash traders also habe high fees.
@@Koelle_nicolasyeah these people dont trade. Theres zero benefits in using bots lmfao makes everything 10x worse
Do you think one day Valve will notice the anti cheat they promised and didn't deliver is still switched off and the game is quite literally unplayable while infested with every type of cheat?
fuck bot sites, I hope its not going to become that again.
now we need cheaters in T1 CS , so valve finally give a fk and make good anti cheat in 1 week
idc if they break down gamble.. but i want to sell my skins for real money ffs
Gamba is bad for the online gaming community. Thats it. Only good can come from banning it.
But its good for economy, if you want to ban gamble it means you dont really care bout economy or skins
I don't understand the issue as long as it's all legal, Pro athletes and movie stars promote gambling and nobody bats an eye but regular people do it and somehow it's a bad thing? As long as it's all legit and legal why care at all? Gambling is a choice, nobody can force you to gamble no matter how much someone promotes it.. it's called accountability, I realize more recent generations have no idea what the word means so ill assist, it means you are responsible for your choices and ONLY you. I would be careful what you wish for, it may start with gambling sites but could easily filter into bot sites too, making Steam the only place to trade/sell skins which would kill the prices and make them worthless which in turn would likely mean the end of CS.. skins are the main reason this game is even populated right now given it's current state. FYI I am not a gambler just a firm believer that those millions of people who died for our freedom and right to choose didn't die for nothing.
its not legal thow 99% are unregulated and unlicenced and dont have propper age verifcation so kids can use them
@@epic_liamgaming2342 If it wasn't legal they would have been charged/shut down ages ago so I fail to see that.
the difference is that cs gambling websites are unregulated and kids get addicted to gambling, which they shouldn't have access to.
@meanmaverick7256 hey hello hi you are everywhere
@@yanshiro6082 Where are the parents? why are they not watching the kids? At what point do we stop blaming what is accessible to kids and start blaming the poor parenting? You don't think kids could take a pic of there parents ID to make an account? Does Steam stop kids from buying cases and keys? What's the end game? To child proof the entire planet removing all responsibility and accountability? I say parents need to do better!
Would be nice if they fixed the cheating problem first.
Valve doesnt like the competition.
luke eats my roblox
WHAT XD
No for real. We do not care about skins fix your game valve
controvershies ❤️
great vid btw thanks
Finally a nerf!!!!
I will never understand why people hate the gamba sponsors so much. Cases are far worse in terms of odds. If you say cases are not the same you are delusional. You open up a crazy looking knife, the first thing you do is check the price to confirm its as good as you think. Maybe you sell maybe you don't. However, you confirm if it is good or not based on it's value in $. If keys were 2.5 and cases for same price as they are now, but skins had no resale value, would you open cases? No most likley not.
The problem is that a lot of the websites don't authenticate their users. (Don't check their ID to confirm date of birth etc.) This leads to a problem with underage gambling and a lot of the people who are watching/playing CS is under 18
Hounggungane idk how to spell it, made a fantastic video about the problem with CS gambling
Valve: NO GAMBLING IT LOSES US MONEY.
ALSO VALVE: Anti-cheat? never heard of her.
Watch the last 10 seconds of the video I mentioned that LOL
@@LukeEats I JUST FINISHED THE VIDEO LMAO.
I'm literally not having fun playing at all rn. I've switch to other games in the meanwhile but NOTHING gives that CS FEEL (Besides FaceIt).
XD why fix anti-cheat?
1cheat = 1acc = 1 prime = 15usd in their pocket
Easiest way= Uninstall Cs2(Cheaters Source 2)
#stopcs2gambling
I hope this ends (value) in skins f them and all and the youtubers involved hope they lose everything for promoting skins instead content that's not just yelling and reacts
Okay poor dude. I m sure you also hope that lamborghini should be ended in value so its owners would yell like a crazy. You also hope that money should be ended in value because they are just papers. What a brain. You need to eat some food boy
RIP CS
Maybe now people will actually play the game instead of playing roulette with glorified NFT's... Oh wait the game is infested with cheaters and borderline unplayable.
I hope skin trading etc will be permanently removed and idiots who invested money in pixels will lose everything.
brokie
I glad... so many scammed skins.
Cs2 Full hack , valve is sleep
Yooooooo first can I get a knife plz
Maybay giveaway soon? ive never done a knife one
when you make a statement that gambling is the biggest threat to cs2 economy but the whole cs2 economy is based on pure gambling to begin with... -_-
exactly
Good. Skins are the worst thing to happen to CS. Next up anti-cheat.
skins are literally the only reason the game is still alive
@@Q-hv2cband the reason the gameplay has such a low quality standard
@@hefestisllove6056 Wdym, gameplay can still be fun and interesting...
@@Q-hv2cb tell me you have a gambling addiction, without telling me.
@@Q-hv2cb and no its actually not. maybe for you and the rest of the mommy's basement dwellers
valve is killing the only thing that keeps the game alive
The game has 1m players regularly and is one of the top 3 most played games in the world. You are delusional
@@Jamacanbacni don't think you understand the point.
@@Jamacanbacnhis point was that with how bad the game currently is, skins are the only thing keeping the game alive. I don’t agree with that statement though.
@@Jamacanbacn 1m players in which 75% of them are cheating.
bruh
items under 50$ on buff process instantly, more expensive ones - under 12h. not that big of a deal compared to bot sites. p2p isnt dead. csfloat is gonna figure out their stuff in a few days and we are back on track. also very coincidentally you are sponsored by skins monkey and then telling in the video to start using bot marketplaces🤔
I cant see how this update is against gambling. Its against p2p but not against bot sites .
Websites can no longer track trades for p2p so they cannot give away money without real proof & having bot accounts for gamba is also a no go because valve would just ban them within a day