Thank you so much for the video, you have no idea how much your videos help the community from all over the world. I am Brazilian and it is very difficult to find concise technical analysis on these Chinese motherboards, although English is not my native language it is easier to understand the specifications and advantages and disadvantages of each motherboard with the content in English. Thank you very much for making this quality content available. I wish you much success!
Only 12K Subscribers ?! You deserve more! You have no idea how much you have helped people for 3rd world countries with your valueable information about xeons! Thanks a lot..!
Thank you for the support! I am planning to update the X99 motherboard picking guide, since the market has changed a lot since this video was released.
@@Miyconst Yes, I live in the Dominican Republic... Here it's complicated and expensive to get new PC parts... I'm trying to find the best motherboard + xeon + ram combo for the money to match the performance of a Ryzen 5 3600 with 3000 DDR4 RAM in stock... Hopefuly with the new video I can pull everything up. Thanks again!
Wow, this is definitely the most in-depth video regarding the popular Chinese motherboard manufacturers on Aliexpress. Thank you for the comprehensive reviews!
Thanks for the video! Aliexpress descriptions of these motherboards are a bit confusing. In your video everything is listed and easy to understand. I wanted 7.1 audio and now I know which motherboards to consider.
Obrigado pelo vídeo. Conhecimento e profissionalismo impecáveis! Seus vídeos são fantásticos. Definitivamente recomendo a todos! Parabéns pelo conteúdo.
@@andremoncao226 @KryptoN opa, beleza? Klissre x99 D8, huananzi X99 T8 ou TF (a TF não é Full DDR4, ou seja, também aceita DDR3). Por volta do minuto 20:34 ele mostra quais são as recomendadas. Na minha opinião pessoal, caso você vá comprar, vá de Klissre X99 D8. Eu comprei e montei com xeon e5 2678v3 e é um monstro. Abraço.
Dude, you are the best! Tnx for all the info and work you put into this boards! I just ordered 2 boards for myself, Huananzhi with 2 slots and cheap X99 GT to risk it a bit, waiting for your reviews ;) And i will update you in month or two after i set it up and turbo unlock it if there were any problems
I'm extremely happy with my Killisre D4(with 2620v3), based on your previous videos. It came turbo boost unlocked as well. I haven't had a chance to try any sata drives, sdd or hdd. but the NVMe slot works perfectly fine with the Silicon Power P34A80 NVMe. The only cons I've found(outside what you've mentioned): -its a little finnicky when swapping GPUs, such at intel to amd, even when un-installing drivers ahead of time. sometimes amd drivers need to be rolled back to for full use. -It does not like the stress of heavier GPUs, when mounted vertically. Horizontally mounting the Mobo will fix this. -I cannot get some older Microsoft Xbox accessories to work with the mobo. It just doesn't seem to like the drivers, even when you force them on to say an Xbox 360 wireless adapter. Not much of a problem, just the first time I've had this issue with any w10 build, BTW whats the largest sticks of ram you've tested in these boards? I'm only using two 8gb sticks at the moment, but am considering upgrading later on. Do you have any recs?
Thank you for the info about Kllisre X99 D4, it's always appreciated. I have tested two 32 GB memory modules in this motherboard, so, at least 64 GB is supported.
Hello, congratulations on the growth and quality of your videos! I don't understand your language, is the machinist that appears at 11:38 minutes possible to unlock Turbo boost? I intend to use a low TDP processor on it. Thank you
I have not yet received this motherboard for testing, thus I can't tell you much about it. As soon as the package arrives to me, I will test it and provide the results on my channel.
@@Miyconst Thanks for answering, I also bought one the same week that you introduced it, but it is stopped in Singapore. I'll be watching your channel!
You are amazing, I have watched I many of your videos in these 2 days and very happy and thankful for your work on testing and validation of these options. I have a few questions though 1) is it better to invest in a dual CPU motherboard instead of a single CPU option? It will keep a long upgrade path available for future (start with 2620v3, then 2678, then maybe 46xx CPUs) 2) Why are all X99 options being tested only with E5-26xx CPUs, why are E5-46xx CPUs not being tested with them for higher processing power requirements? 3) When purchasing a completely new CPU+motherboard+RAM set, isn't it good to buy the DDR4 option instead of older DDR3 ?, Please guide on why anyone would buy older RAM speed.
This guy is WAAAAYYYYYYYYY underrated...should be over 300K subs easy. IMO. As well, the Miyconst turbo unlock tutorial and zip file tool package is the best available, IMO. Easy to follow for newbees like me; the process was clear and the results on my HuananZhi X99TF w/E5-2678V3, fantastic! All core turbo now 3.2Ghz with temps hovering around 50C at full load. CB R15 = 1830.
Dude, you deserve more attention you getting the job done every time. Thank you for your content i hope you continue doing it so. Just a question: wouldnt it be great to do the same for the x79 mobos? people would love it , its even more cheaper and vfm dont you think. Greets from Greece
Thank you for the support. X79 is a rapidly aging platform, and all required information about most of the motherboards is already available online, thus, I don't think such video about X79 is needed, but I will see what I can do.
Thank you for the video! I got Huananzhi F8, when it arrives im thinking of making a big passive heatsink for the vrm with some old athlon cooler, i donk like these small fans either.
I am very grateful for your tests, thank you very much! In your video you cite Klissre X99D8 as the best Chinese x99 option, I am interested in building a setup based on an E5 2460 v3 for a friend and I was wondering... Is this the safest option for this processor? I consider turbo boost but not overclock; Is there a way to achieve a ram speed greater than 1866MHz with that same processor+motherboard? Regarding the temperature of the vrms, is there any heatsink option you recommend or any other way to increase the safety or longevity of this setup?
Xeon E5-2640 V3 is a rather cold CPU, even Machinist X99Z will be fine with it. With JingSha / Kllisre D8 you surely don't have to do anything, just plug the CPU in and enjoy.
Thanks for the roundup, great job!, I have purchased two of these boards, X99-D4 and X99 8MD4, I can confirm that they work with DDR4 from Tanbassh, Team or Samsung (all 2400mhz), but couldn't work with Bigway(a brand from Taobao)
I think, memory compatibility issue is not related to the brand, but rather to the physical memory layout. 4 banks modules are not supported. Do you have a photo of the non working Bigway RAM sticks?
Thank you for this compilation! Between hunanzhi x99tf and killisre x99 d8, which one will you recommend? Also can we expect to see a recommended list of processors in a similar video?
Huananzhi X99-TF if you plan to use DDR3 memory, otherwise Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8. So far I don't plan to make such video about CPUs, but if there will be more interesting CPUs to choose from, I will do the comparison.
Another awesome video! I've got an Atermiter D4 which looks just like the Kllisre D4 and I want to say it's had no issues so far after over a month of use. I've been using it for gaming with a E5-2620v3 turbo unlocked using your modified F8 BIOS with a GTX 1070 and have been loving it. Works flawless playing 1440p@60fps. The only thing I haven't tested are the M.2 slots, but I'll be getting an NVMe SSD for it next week. I've also got an E5-2640v3 on the way for it too. After this video I'm itching to do another build with a TF and an E5-2678v3. I'd like to use it to replace my aging 2009 Mac Pro that runs Proxmox on dual X5675's.
it seems like you are getting quite some fan with the Xeon builds! Sometimes, I am thinking to ditch out my Threadripper 1950X in favor of a Xeon E5-2678 V3 or E5-2690 V3.
@@Miyconst Oh yeah, these boards are tons of fun. Have you tried gaming on Proxmox more? I'm debating putting dual GPUs on a TF and passing each to it's own Windows VM, one for me and one for my GF, so we can both play on Steam at the same time from one box. I noticed the TF has blue LEDs on the board, does the F8 have green ones?
Thanks for this video, really good! But I have a question, if I want to do the unlock turbo boost on the 26xx v3 line which board should I go for? The ones with BIOS unlocked or overclockable?
Thanks for the video! I bought the x99z v600 mini dtx because i have a itx case. One of buyer comments says clear cmos also doesn't work. You mentioned x99z v102 that a user reported having modified bios to fix clear cmos problems. Do you have more information about that?
I have the atermiter board with 2678 v3 and ddr3, I ordered it on 08 may, it arrived in Ireland 28th june. Turbo unlock worked fine, no issues so far, fingers crossed.
Miyconst, good morning! I currently intend to build a PC based on the X99 platform for work. I am very much in doubt between these two mother boards. Which one do you easily recommend? Jingsha X99-E8i or Huananzhi X99 F8 The CPU to be used will be Xeon E5 2680 V3 and I intend to use Unlock Turbo Boost. Thank you for transmitting this vast knowledge about this platform! Success to you.
I discovered your channel just a while ago, and i gotta say fantastic work! Congrats and keep up the excellent work! I've always been an enthusiast in these kind of "different" setups, I've owned in the past a Xeon and checking your videos, i'm really interested in getting back to it. I've got some questions if possible for you to answer: 1) I own a Ryzen 5 2600 with a MSI B450 and a RX570, do you think it's a good option to sell it and buy a setup from Aliexpress? 2) If so which one do you think could be an option? 3) Is a PSU Corsair 650 enough to handle a system with a Xeon 12c, for example? 4) And finally, i already checked the shipping for my country (Portugal), but since it's normal shipping i have to pay a lot for customs. How do you manage to ship to EU and bypass normal shipping? I already talked to tehm for a DHL or UPS carrier, but no luck! Thank you for your time and good luck for your channel, really great information and super detailed!
Thanks for the support. Regarding the questions: no, I don't think it's worth switching from R5 2600 to the X99 platform. If you want to invest into an upgrade - get yourself a better GPU or buy an R5 3600. I pay all the customs, unfortunately there is no way to avoid it. If you live in EU - you have to obey to the local law.
@@Miyconst thank you for the response! Yeah the customs here are always a bit high, usually you have to almost double of what you paid for. Either way, how much do you have to pay for customs there? Regarding upgrading, i've never been much a guy of doing that, since i know i'll have to upgrade a lot of stuff, that's why i was considering have a X99 with a nice Xeon so that i wouldn't had to think about upgrading, only the GPU and that's it :)
@@tiagoestrada Taxes in Sweden are about 30% plus declaration fee, so it depends on the package price. If you are looking to get a platform to serve you for let's say five years without upgrades, then get AMD AM4 or Intel LGA 1200, X99 is a dying dinosaur.
Love your testing. Just wondering for those dual socket X99 mobos, do you have a recommanded case for them? I had a X99 F8D, but does not have a pc case that will fit this large E-atx monster
Warning: newbie question! :) Do I need an wifi adapter for Jingsha X99 D4 to have a wifi connection or when it mentions that it has a built-in M2 WiFi it means that it is ready to connect to a wifi network?
Thanks for the video. Atelmiter/Kllisre x99 can be used with Ddr3 or ddr4?, I'm waiting for the kllisre version, bud I did not know that the model could be used with Ddr3, in that case, I already have 16gb for it.
There are different models of this motherboard. The look is identical, but some have DDR4 slots, others DDR3. Depends on what you have bought you might need one or another one.
Great video! I'm considering buying a X99 Mobo + E5 2620v3 kit. Can you recomend any budget cooler (from AliX, in preference) for me to use with this configuration? Do I have to take into account which Mobo I will pick before I choose the cooler?
From AliExpress I would pick the well known "Snowman" cooler. All motherboards are LGA 2011-3 mounting compatible, thus it doesn't matter which motherboard you pick.
Can you tell whether if I access your sponsored link to AliExpress but buy any different product on the same store (like if I buy a kit which has no sponsored link) will you get the support as well?
It's hard to say, AliExpress affiliated links are working very strange. Sometimes I get a few coins from such purchases, sometimes I don't get anything.
A very useful video, thanks. Question: In your summary you do not mention the BIOS and access to RAM timings / overclocking options. How would rate (best > worst) the 6 motherboards in this respect ?.
Thanks for this round up video, was in a bit of a split between the machinist x99z and the jingsha x99-d4 boards. But the possibility of accidentally bricking the machinist board has made me consider the jingsha/kllisre board.
@@ckngmad1357 true but I computer savvy as I am I still don't have the capability of flashing a bios through a USB flasher. And stability is a greater priority for me.
Then just leave the BIOS settings on default, do not overclock and do not tighten the RAM timings. Machinist X99Z does not turn into bricks on its own, it only happens when you try to apply some invalid settings in BIOS. Also, I can't yet confirm this, it's possible to clear CMOS with the following steps: connecting the clear CMOS jumper, remove the motherboard batter, let the board lie like this for a few hours.
Thank you, very good video and explanatory !!! I'm trying to save a Wovibo X99 DDR4 card you know where I can find a BIOS for it? will the BIOS of a Huananzhi, Atemier, Kllisre or JingSha work on it?
Hi ! Awesome video you are one of the rare youtuber to talk about "old" but powerful CPUs Got a question, if i buy the Huananzhi X99-F8 (8×DDR4 RAM) do you think i'll be able to install 6 × DDR4 RAM sticks and get better perf than only 4 ? Or it'll just nor work ?
You won't get any extra performance, since the CPU supports maximum 4 memory channels. You will get physically more memory, but not better performance. Anyway, I would recommend you to use either 4 or 8 modules.
@@Miyconst oh okay awesome, at least i can try and i might have more Ram available :) ! I looked at your reviews, i think i'll buy a x99 motherboard really soon, the Huananzhi seemed to be really good but i'm a bit worried i might also get a dead RAM slot at a point in time. I consider using it for at least 5-8 years with a Rx Vega 56, for VR and mainly use.. so i'd like something really reliable. Any card you could recommend to me in terms of reliability ? I saw you tested a few other ones since your best x99 motherboards video
@@Miyconst oh in terms of reliability you'd pick this one ? I cannot find your review of the JingSha x99 D8, maybe it's the same one as the Kilsire ? :)
Hi Miyconst, first I want to thank you for all your knowledge shared!! I recently bought a Kllisre X99 D8 with Xeon 2678 v3, I was in doubt about this motherboard and the Huananzhi X99-F8, but watching your video "HcKZScU88Ak" I would see that the active VRM fan would be a problem so I become happy with the choice for the Kllisre. I just want to ask you if the Xeon 2678 v3 clock is really locked at 2.5GHz with this board (in stock) and I'll can't go higher than this? If I desire to run at a maximum of 3.0GHz what I need to do? Flush the X99-F8 Bios? Sorry I'm really lost, would you comment here an easy step-step to reach 3.0GHz with this Xeon (if it be impossible with stock settings, of course)? Thank you very much!!!
Hello mate, such a great video indeed, all this info should archived for future buyers haha, btw i have a couple of questions. 1. Will the budgets versions of machinist,killsre and jingsha d4 be able to work under normal temps if the e5 2620v3 was with turbo hack? 2. Without turbo hack, do you think this same cpu 2620v2 will be able to keep playing games to come in 3 to 4 years? Thanks!
All of the recommended boards are able to handle E5-2620 V3 Turbo Unlocked. Without Turbo Unlock this CPU is just not good enough, thus I would not recommend it for gaming in this case.
@@Miyconst thanks my friend, but, why is it that you dont recommend the stock 2620v3? cause in some videos its faster at stock speed thant a 2630 v2 running @2.9.
@@dariollanos E5-2630 V2 is an older CPU, which I don't recommend at all. Running E5-2620 V3 at its stock speed is a waste, unlocking turbo boost is simple and brings a nice performance increase, that's why I don't recommend running it at the stock values, unless you are looking for a simple office PC.
@@Miyconst i see thanks a lot mate, one last thing, regarding the nvme m2, if i use will the mobo disable the sata ports? I read about it somewhere, i see the machinist have an options for ssd m.2 and i guess that will be a better option?
@@dariollanos Some Chinese X99 motherboards support SATA M.2 drives and NVMe M.2 drives. When using a SATA drive, one of the SATA ports will be disabled.
Love these videos, I keep finding the memory config/potential performance loss bit confusing, if I get X99 MB with 2xDDR4 8GB ram instead of 4 sticks, am I only getting dual-channel memory configuration and how much FPS loss in BF5?
The performance loss will be insignificant, if you have tight memory timings. You can watch my other video on this subject: th-cam.com/video/l95V_s4rVm0/w-d-xo.html
Modified BIOS files are available to download from the Turbo Boost Unlock guide: www.miyconst.com/Blog/View/2081/xeon-e5-2600-v3-turbo-boost-unlock Dual socket motherboard reviews are about to come, just need to test them first.
@@Miyconst What board do you think I should use for Hackintosh workstation (I would prefer support for RECC DDR4 at least 128GB, E5-2678/2680/2690 v3, NVME M2 at least)? Where do I find succesful builds as an example? Would you try on your hardware a build? Thanks a lot!
@@roxtaz I know a few stories of successful Hackintosh build on top of a JingSha X99 D8 with 128 GB of RAM and E5-2678 V3, thus I recommend this board :).
Hello. Great job on reviewing the motherboards etc. One thing I should suggest, add a short intro to your video and ask viewers to click on Like if they find it useful. There are over 10,000 views as of my writing and only 609 likes which is not reflective of your great work. Thank you again for doing this.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will think about it. Many TH-camrs have very aggressive begging for likes and subscribes, which is very annoying for me, that's why I don't want to do that.
This active cooling on VRM section is just silly. Reminds me some very old motherboards with such small coolers on NB. It never works good and sooner or later (and rather sooner) it will start to be noisy.
Hi Miyconst, I buy the machinist x99z thanks to you, and is rlly good I have it from 5 months ago and work great, but now i have a problem clear cmos dont work, do u know some way for reset bios? Greetings 😀
This is a known issue of X99Z motherboard. You can try to use BIOS from iEngineer, it is supposed to fix the issue, but not guaranteed. To restore the BIOS you would need a CH341A.
@@Miyconst I did some changes in the bios and now when I turn on the pc the keyboard does not work until windows starts, because of this it is impossible to access the bios 😭
@@jesuscampos2463 you can try to use another keyboard, another USB port, flash the BIOS from Windows, but in general - learn the lesson, don't mess with the BIOS if you don't know what it is :D.
Моя x99-t8 тоже застряла было в Сингапуре на три недели по дороге в Бразилию, но сегодня наконец вылетела. Через HK зато за две недели к нам всё доходит сейчас, теперь всех селлеров прошу почтой Гонконга слать.
Hi @MiyConst Do you know if there's some issues with X99 and Kllisre memory DDR4 2400mhz (PC4-19200U-CL17) ? Already had 2x16GB of this memory in a Atermiter X99 motherboard working perfectly but decided to upgrade it with 2x16GB more. No way, they are not being recognized in Atermiter X99 neither in a Jingsha X99 MH. Despite should be the same model and memory... I find the circuit is slightly bit difference. Are you aware of some incompatibilities with this memory and motherboard?. Thanks and regards!
@@Miyconst I didn't take off the thermal cooler plate, but I bet that's the issue. I appreaciate differences between the memory circuits. It's not a big deal because Aliexpress accepted my return, but anyways it's a waste of time for everyone. I'm sure they're aware of this issue, don't know why they don't warn about this compatibility. Thanks again for your answer! and take care.
Thank you for the video, i purchased a killsre X99 (still don't understand the right name... ) and just seen your video, did you know if there are solutions for USB 3 malfunctions? and what bios can i flash ?
@@Miyconst the motherboard is the one with WiFi support in the corner on the right down side, "full unlocked bios" in your video means that is capable to overclock cpu and ram with original bios? Thanks for all your videos, i were capable to understand a little in this X99 world
@@sebastianoarcidiacono5181 if I understood you description correctly, that motherboard is just another revision or modification of PlexHD X99-Turbo, which I don't like and don't recommend. "Fully Unlocked BIOS" means that it's not write-protected, and it's possible to use FPT to read/write BIOS.
@@Miyconst It's exactly that model it.aliexpress.com/item/4000974911783.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.18713867xVzM4e there is a bios i can flash to overclock? i found a 1650 v3 for 60 euros instead the 2660 v3 i have, would be interesting try to overclock it.
@@sebastianoarcidiacono5181 sorry, I am not aware of the BIOS options for this motherboard. This motherboard is known for its poor quality, and I do not recommend overclocking any CPUs with it. Still, you can search for BIOS options on this website: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011-3/plexhd-x99/
Do you recommend flashing the Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on boards that support it, in general? I have 2 JingSha X99-8D3. I use them as servers, so I need stability over performance. I cannot control the RAM timings and I have 8x32GB DDR3-1333 DIMMs on each. All of the DIMMs can work at 1600Mhz individually, maybe even more, but the boards have to run at 1066Mhz or they will freeze on memtest86. It's very difficult to run 8 four rank DIMMs on almost any board (even on branded boards). With X79 based boards they don't work out of the box, I have to put dual ranked modules, set the timings manually, and then swap to four rank modules because AUTO config fails. Another thing that I need is headless mode (boot without GPU), and it works fine even without any actual option within the BIOS. I'm missing the option to restore last power state on a power failure, thou.
No, I do not recommend using Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on JingSha X99-8D3, at least because I have never tested that motherboard and can't guarantee that it is compatible. If you are willing to experiment and risk bricking your motherboard - then it might be worth trying it. In case you dare to try - please remember to share your experience with the community. According to this page, the motherboard is supposed to work well with Huananzhi BIOS, there is also a modified original BIOS with memory timings option. Thus, if you are willing to experiment, the downloads are available here: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011-3/jingsha-x99-v1-0/#_Huananzhi_x99-TF
great content master of chinese motherboards!!! i just have one question can i use snowman cooler 6 heat pipes in any of this motherboards? thank you and godbless!!! shout out here in the philippines 🇵🇭
As far as I know, Snowman coolers are fitting well on these motherboards. There are two versions of this cooler though, one designed for LGA 2011 mounting, this one installs straight onto the motherboard with four screws, the other general version can be installed with usage of the AM4 mounting clip, which comes with almost every Chinese X99 motherboard.
Thanks for the very detailed explanation of what and why. What makes me sad (actually a lot) is that all of those boards seem to only have 1 4-pin connector. I mean, with everything going on on those boards 2 4-pin-connectors for PWM-Fans shouldn't be too much to ask for (if you have different Fans, e.g. 120 for the system and 140 for the CPU cooler/AIO running all of them on the same speed is .... not brilliant :( ) Especially as ALL 3-pin connectors are just unregulated connectors for 100% fanspeed usage (good for AIO pumps, but nothing else....)
@@Miyconst true, but to be honest why being forced to do this if it could have been included easily and with one fan profile setup in the bios you're done compared to another element and maybe she to fiddle with
@@alexanderneukam1065 I totally agree with you. These Chinese factories are doing some super silly decisions and absolutely ignore feedback from people like me.
Yes, I tried. Didn't work either. I have had a bunch of these boards. Clear CMOS worked with some of them if I wait for ~10-15 minutes with removed battery and shortened Clear CMOS jumper.
Do you have a final or an engineering sample CPU? Did you try to clean the CPU contacts with clear spirit? Are you sure that CPU itself is fully functional?
Ordered and using X99Z-V500 with 2678v3 about a month, it looks like X99Z-v102 but a bit different, I'm still using it with stock bios because I'm worry I will brick the board when flash the bios, would you review it in future? Is it require external USB programmer or just can flash it in windows? Thanks.
Hi. As far as I know, it's exactly the same board as Machinist X99Z, just a slightly different look. You can post a picture of the board if you want to double check. You can use mine Mi899 tool to flash the turbo unlock BIOS if the board is X99Z.
@@Miyconst Here's the link of my motherboard, x99z-v102 have four DDR4 slots and this one(v500) have two DDR3 and two DDR4. ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H06bf005d5b254cd5afea0398b4c02f5cv/X99-motherboard-set-with-Xeon-E5-2678-V3-LGA2011-3-CPU-2pcs-X-8GB-16GB-2400MHz.jpg
By the way, there is a DDR3 variant of the Jingsha X99 D8, that would be a good alternative to the corresponding Huananzhi boards (and costs about 79 EUR currently). My X99-TF and Xeon 2678 V3 finally arrived last week, and overall I am quite happy with both. There is a bit of BCLK variation (it stays at 99.74 - 99.94 MHz mostly but it peaks up to 108 Mhz) and the front USB3 slows down to 20 MB/s after ca. 20 seconds. My CPU also doesn't like the -20 mV undervolt on the memory controller if I try to run 2133 Mhz DDR3 memory. But I am also satisified with 1866 Mhz with very tight timings (got it to 68.4 ns latency and 58k write speed in AIDA - 4 x 8 GB SK Hynix 1866 with BFR chips and ECC). My gaming performance with a Vega 56 is better than on my Ryzen 2600 with 3466 Mhz Micron Rev. E RAM and tight timings. And as my Ryzen CPU was a very bad sample which didn't OC over 3800 Mhz, I happily sold it and got a better system for a lower price. Thanks a lot for your videos which did help me a lot!
I am glad to help and thank for sharing so much useful information. Could you please clarify about the USB 3.0 ports. The transfer speed slows down after a while, but what happens with the system itself? Does it stay stable or hangs / crashes?
@@Miyconst The system is stable, it is just that the transfer speed is below expected levels (from 60 MB/s for the first minute it goes down to around 20 MB/s after crossing a certain threshold). I will investigate it further, it could be harmless.
@@Miyconst It turned out that everything is fine with the USB ports, I tested it with a faster/better USB stick and the performance is where I expect it to be.
Hello, and thank you for your nice videos. Have you seen that there is a new bios version for the x99-tf motherboard, on the official website? I am not a computer specialist, and I don't have the USB flash tool ( in case things goes bad). But if you try it out it would be nice to know if it is any good.
It doesn't mean that the BIOS is new, it only means that it was uploaded on May 25th :). Anyway, if I get my hands on a Huananzhi X99-TF again - I will test the "new" BIOS as well.
X99 TF motherboard is known to have problems with USB speed - cameras and USB-drives are not working well. Are you aware of such problems on the Kllisre X99 D8 or not?
I have not got any reports of this issue with the Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8 boards, personally I used an X99 D8 for a few months - didn't have any USB issues.
It's very difficult to use a custom bios? I was going to buy a huananzhi f8 but I don't like the fans, so i would better buy killisre one. I don't think I would use the bios a lot but at least to configure all in the first use
Do these boards support Core i7 on 2011-3 as well and are all of them C602/X99 based.... I happen to have a Core i7 5900k on shelf that I would like to use... Because I found older variants to be based on H61
Yes, these boards support Core i7 CPUs, and the i7-5XXX can also work with ECC REG memory, just so you know. Some of these X99 boards have bad PCI-E layout which affects CPUs with only 28 lanes, but i7-5930k has 40 lanes, so it shall not be a problem.
@@Miyconst this is what the seller answered me: 1. BIOS version upgrade 2. Add WiFi card 3. Increase the motherboard atmosphere light 4. VRM has better heat dissipation effect 5. Upgrade of components
@@evgeniyk.4618 I really doubt that they have actually done anything extra except the M.2 WiFi slot and motherboard pain, but it's nice to see that they at least answer your messages.
How much difference does quad vs dual channel RAM make in gaming? Am trying to decide between a Jingsha D4 with 2 slots and the more expensive 4-slot Huananzhi TF/F8 to pair with a 2620 V3
Maximum 5% and only in the scenarios where you are CPU limited. In your case I would get a Machinsit X99Z and as good GPU as possible, for example a GTX 1660 Super would be a good match.
@@Miyconst Am a bit concerned by the clear CMOS issue on that board. Will probably spend a little more for better quality. If you had to choose between the Kllisre D8 and the Huananzhi F8 at the same price, which would you choose and why?
Montei dois kits com a X99m-h2. Ambos com 2x8Gb ddr4 2133, e5-2630l v3 (55W apenas), um com nvme m2 de 256 Gb e outro com um ssd sata de 256Gb, placas de video baratas pq não uso para jogos. UM com windows 10 pro e outro com Linux Mint 20.1. Ambos ficaram muito rápidos. Antes eu usava duas máquinas com e5450 e e5462. O material levou em média 2 semanas para chegar no RJ. Uma das placas que comprei junto com o m2, foi taxada em 177+15 e chegou 1 semana depois do resto das peças. Por enquanto tudo funcionando ok.
Thank you so much for the video, you have no idea how much your videos help the community from all over the world. I am Brazilian and it is very difficult to find concise technical analysis on these Chinese motherboards, although English is not my native language it is easier to understand the specifications and advantages and disadvantages of each motherboard with the content in English. Thank you very much for making this quality content available. I wish you much success!
Thank you for the support!
ja comprou seu kit mano?
@@matheustheo2771 já sim, tudo já está no Brasil, só estou esperando a boa vontade dos correios entregarem 🤣🤣
Manjo muito pouco de inglês, em resumo qual foi a melhor quando se fala em cxb?
@@msmatheusaugusto1 o meu tbm
Only 12K Subscribers ?! You deserve more! You have no idea how much you have helped people for 3rd world countries with your valueable information about xeons!
Thanks a lot..!
Thank you for the support! I am planning to update the X99 motherboard picking guide, since the market has changed a lot since this video was released.
@@Miyconst Yes, I live in the Dominican Republic... Here it's complicated and expensive to get new PC parts... I'm trying to find the best motherboard + xeon + ram combo for the money to match the performance of a Ryzen 5 3600 with 3000 DDR4 RAM in stock... Hopefuly with the new video I can pull everything up.
Thanks again!
@@Miyconst could you make similar video for dual cpu x99/x79 mobos? SPASIBKA!
I like and love the people who allways speak with the true... LIKE LIKE LIKE for this video, greetings from Chile...
Buena compita, saludos a chile, desde chile
Thank you for this video!
Wow, this is definitely the most in-depth video regarding the popular Chinese motherboard manufacturers on Aliexpress. Thank you for the comprehensive reviews!
Thanks for the video!
Aliexpress descriptions of these motherboards are a bit confusing.
In your video everything is listed and easy to understand.
I wanted 7.1 audio and now I know which motherboards to consider.
This is by far the best and most comprehensive video of these motherboards I have ever seem.
Excellent content keep up the good work! I watched your step by step video and got turbo boost unlocked on Asus Rampage V (2678 V3).
What a wonderful contribution to the PC building community! Thank you sir.
Obrigado pelo vídeo. Conhecimento e profissionalismo impecáveis! Seus vídeos são fantásticos. Definitivamente recomendo a todos! Parabéns pelo conteúdo.
Não sou bilíngue, pode me explicar qual ele recomendou comprar? Kkk
@@andremoncao226 @KryptoN opa, beleza?
Klissre x99 D8, huananzi X99 T8 ou TF (a TF não é Full DDR4, ou seja, também aceita DDR3). Por volta do minuto 20:34 ele mostra quais são as recomendadas. Na minha opinião pessoal, caso você vá comprar, vá de Klissre X99 D8. Eu comprei e montei com xeon e5 2678v3 e é um monstro. Abraço.
Alguém responde PFV comprei uma X99M-G v1 ela é Boa?? Quero fazer unlock turbo nela com meu 2640 v3
@@MrFoxx19 tá funcionando até hj?
@@mateusolliv1110 O VRM da placa mãe queimou. Infelizmente, tive que comprar outra.
O processador continua funcionando perfeitamente.
i really love how chonese manufacturers advertise their motherboards, like "usb!", "cpu!", "mosfets!"
I just built a workstation for my wife with the x99z and an e5 2660, this video was an enormous help, thanks!
I watched some of your videos and y can only say, you are one of the best. Very objective in your tests and complete. Very nice job. 👌
Thank you Luis! I really appreciate it.
I have been watching your videos all day today and they are very educational for me since I know nothing about exons and chinese motherboards.
Super helpful video man...thanks for the amount of time and research you've put into this
Dude, you are the best! Tnx for all the info and work you put into this boards! I just ordered 2 boards for myself, Huananzhi with 2 slots and cheap X99 GT to risk it a bit, waiting for your reviews ;) And i will update you in month or two after i set it up and turbo unlock it if there were any problems
I'm extremely happy with my Killisre D4(with 2620v3), based on your previous videos. It came turbo boost unlocked as well. I haven't had a chance to try any sata drives, sdd or hdd. but the NVMe slot works perfectly fine with the Silicon Power P34A80 NVMe.
The only cons I've found(outside what you've mentioned):
-its a little finnicky when swapping GPUs, such at intel to amd, even when un-installing drivers ahead of time. sometimes amd drivers need to be rolled back to for full use.
-It does not like the stress of heavier GPUs, when mounted vertically. Horizontally mounting the Mobo will fix this.
-I cannot get some older Microsoft Xbox accessories to work with the mobo. It just doesn't seem to like the drivers, even when you force them on to say an Xbox 360 wireless adapter. Not much of a problem, just the first time I've had this issue with any w10 build,
BTW whats the largest sticks of ram you've tested in these boards? I'm only using two 8gb sticks at the moment, but am considering upgrading later on. Do you have any recs?
Thank you for the info about Kllisre X99 D4, it's always appreciated. I have tested two 32 GB memory modules in this motherboard, so, at least 64 GB is supported.
Hello, congratulations on the growth and quality of your videos!
I don't understand your language, is the machinist that appears at 11:38 minutes possible to unlock Turbo boost? I intend to use a low TDP processor on it. Thank you
I have not yet received this motherboard for testing, thus I can't tell you much about it. As soon as the package arrives to me, I will test it and provide the results on my channel.
@@Miyconst Thanks for answering, I also bought one the same week that you introduced it, but it is stopped in Singapore. I'll be watching your channel!
You are amazing, I have watched I many of your videos in these 2 days and very happy and thankful for your work on testing and validation of these options. I have a few questions though
1) is it better to invest in a dual CPU motherboard instead of a single CPU option? It will keep a long upgrade path available for future (start with 2620v3, then 2678, then maybe 46xx CPUs)
2) Why are all X99 options being tested only with E5-26xx CPUs, why are E5-46xx CPUs not being tested with them for higher processing power requirements?
3) When purchasing a completely new CPU+motherboard+RAM set, isn't it good to buy the DDR4 option instead of older DDR3 ?, Please guide on why anyone would buy older RAM speed.
For point 3, I bought the DDR3 model because I had many ECC DDR3 sticks at my disposal. Just trying to save a bit of money
This guy is WAAAAYYYYYYYYY underrated...should be over 300K subs easy. IMO. As well, the Miyconst turbo unlock tutorial and zip file tool package is the best available, IMO. Easy to follow for newbees like me; the process was clear and the results on my HuananZhi X99TF w/E5-2678V3, fantastic! All core turbo now 3.2Ghz with temps hovering around 50C at full load. CB R15 = 1830.
Thank you for the support, it's really appreciated and give me extra motivation to work on the future videos.
Dude, you deserve more attention you getting the job done every time. Thank you for your content i hope you continue doing it so. Just a question: wouldnt it be great to do the same for the x79 mobos? people would love it , its even more cheaper and vfm dont you think. Greets from Greece
Thank you for the support. X79 is a rapidly aging platform, and all required information about most of the motherboards is already available online, thus, I don't think such video about X79 is needed, but I will see what I can do.
Thank you for the video! I got Huananzhi F8, when it arrives im thinking of making a big passive heatsink for the vrm with some old athlon cooler, i donk like these small fans either.
Make sure to share some photos of how it went.
Thanks for everything bro appreciate it
I am very grateful for your tests, thank you very much! In your video you cite Klissre X99D8 as the best Chinese x99 option, I am interested in building a setup based on an E5 2460 v3 for a friend and I was wondering...
Is this the safest option for this processor? I consider turbo boost but not overclock;
Is there a way to achieve a ram speed greater than 1866MHz with that same processor+motherboard?
Regarding the temperature of the vrms, is there any heatsink option you recommend or any other way to increase the safety or longevity of this setup?
Xeon E5-2640 V3 is a rather cold CPU, even Machinist X99Z will be fine with it. With JingSha / Kllisre D8 you surely don't have to do anything, just plug the CPU in and enjoy.
@@Miyconst
thank you, good to know =D
But why you consider Klissre X99D8 the best option?
@@see-sharp Because it has the best VRM, VRM Cooling, decent quality, and full pack of different expansion slots/ports.
@@Miyconst
sorry to be asking but which ram do you recommend for this kit? what
frequency? Thanks in advance for your attention
Samsung DDR4-2133 or DDR4-2400 ECC REG. SK Hynix is also an okay variant.
5:12 You saved my life! Flawless USB 3 is absolute must for my iFi Zen DAC.
Thanks for the roundup, great job!, I have purchased two of these boards, X99-D4 and X99 8MD4, I can confirm that they work with DDR4 from Tanbassh, Team or Samsung (all 2400mhz), but couldn't work with Bigway(a brand from Taobao)
I think, memory compatibility issue is not related to the brand, but rather to the physical memory layout. 4 banks modules are not supported. Do you have a photo of the non working Bigway RAM sticks?
@@Miyconst I have a bit blurry photo of these modules ibb.co/C1X13kv ,they work fine with a B350 mainboard.
Thank you for this compilation!
Between hunanzhi x99tf and killisre x99 d8, which one will you recommend?
Also can we expect to see a recommended list of processors in a similar video?
Huananzhi X99-TF if you plan to use DDR3 memory, otherwise Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8. So far I don't plan to make such video about CPUs, but if there will be more interesting CPUs to choose from, I will do the comparison.
@@Miyconst great! Thank you for the advice!
Another awesome video! I've got an Atermiter D4 which looks just like the Kllisre D4 and I want to say it's had no issues so far after over a month of use. I've been using it for gaming with a E5-2620v3 turbo unlocked using your modified F8 BIOS with a GTX 1070 and have been loving it. Works flawless playing 1440p@60fps. The only thing I haven't tested are the M.2 slots, but I'll be getting an NVMe SSD for it next week. I've also got an E5-2640v3 on the way for it too.
After this video I'm itching to do another build with a TF and an E5-2678v3. I'd like to use it to replace my aging 2009 Mac Pro that runs Proxmox on dual X5675's.
it seems like you are getting quite some fan with the Xeon builds! Sometimes, I am thinking to ditch out my Threadripper 1950X in favor of a Xeon E5-2678 V3 or E5-2690 V3.
@@Miyconst Oh yeah, these boards are tons of fun. Have you tried gaming on Proxmox more? I'm debating putting dual GPUs on a TF and passing each to it's own Windows VM, one for me and one for my GF, so we can both play on Steam at the same time from one box.
I noticed the TF has blue LEDs on the board, does the F8 have green ones?
Thanks for this video, really good! But I have a question, if I want to do the unlock turbo boost on the 26xx v3 line which board should I go for? The ones with BIOS unlocked or overclockable?
You can do Turbo Frequency Unlock on any X99 motherboard. Some of them have locked BIOS and you would need an external USB flash programmer.
Thanks for the video! I bought the x99z v600 mini dtx because i have a itx case. One of buyer comments says clear cmos also doesn't work. You mentioned x99z v102 that a user reported having modified bios to fix clear cmos problems. Do you have more information about that?
Great compilation video you have here. Can't wait for your review on the new Machinist X99Z and the Veineda x99! Is the package still delayed?
Yeah, the packages are still in transit.
I have the atermiter board with 2678 v3 and ddr3, I ordered it on 08 may, it arrived in Ireland 28th june. Turbo unlock worked fine, no issues so far, fingers crossed.
Let's hope you have got a good sample.
Miyconst, good morning!
I currently intend to build a PC based on the X99 platform for work.
I am very much in doubt between these two mother boards. Which one do you easily recommend?
Jingsha X99-E8i or Huananzhi X99 F8
The CPU to be used will be Xeon E5 2680 V3 and I intend to use Unlock Turbo Boost.
Thank you for transmitting this vast knowledge about this platform!
Success to you.
This video answers your question: th-cam.com/video/jYkzCZQEN2U/w-d-xo.html
I have Huananzhi t8 running ESXI 7 with 128GB DDR3 @ 1600mhz and e5 2678 v3. Very happy with my purchase
The nvme slots work at 3gbps speeds as well
I discovered your channel just a while ago, and i gotta say fantastic work! Congrats and keep up the excellent work!
I've always been an enthusiast in these kind of "different" setups, I've owned in the past a Xeon and checking your videos, i'm really interested in getting back to it.
I've got some questions if possible for you to answer:
1) I own a Ryzen 5 2600 with a MSI B450 and a RX570, do you think it's a good option to sell it and buy a setup from Aliexpress?
2) If so which one do you think could be an option?
3) Is a PSU Corsair 650 enough to handle a system with a Xeon 12c, for example?
4) And finally, i already checked the shipping for my country (Portugal), but since it's normal shipping i have to pay a lot for customs.
How do you manage to ship to EU and bypass normal shipping? I already talked to tehm for a DHL or UPS carrier, but no luck!
Thank you for your time and good luck for your channel, really great information and super detailed!
Thanks for the support. Regarding the questions: no, I don't think it's worth switching from R5 2600 to the X99 platform. If you want to invest into an upgrade - get yourself a better GPU or buy an R5 3600.
I pay all the customs, unfortunately there is no way to avoid it. If you live in EU - you have to obey to the local law.
@@Miyconst thank you for the response!
Yeah the customs here are always a bit high, usually you have to almost double of what you paid for.
Either way, how much do you have to pay for customs there?
Regarding upgrading, i've never been much a guy of doing that, since i know i'll have to upgrade a lot of stuff, that's why i was considering have a X99 with a nice Xeon so that i wouldn't had to think about upgrading, only the GPU and that's it :)
@@tiagoestrada Taxes in Sweden are about 30% plus declaration fee, so it depends on the package price. If you are looking to get a platform to serve you for let's say five years without upgrades, then get AMD AM4 or Intel LGA 1200, X99 is a dying dinosaur.
@@Miyconst Thank you, i'll keep that in mind.
Love your testing. Just wondering for those dual socket X99 mobos, do you have a recommanded case for them? I had a X99 F8D, but does not have a pc case that will fit this large E-atx monster
I was using Fractal Design Define XL for my builds.
Thank you for this guide, very concise and very in depth
Warning: newbie question! :) Do I need an wifi adapter for Jingsha X99 D4 to have a wifi connection or when it mentions that it has a built-in M2 WiFi it means that it is ready to connect to a wifi network?
You need to install the WiFi adapter yourself, the motherboard only has a slot for it. It's also known that not all adapters are supported.
I just got this and it looks like it is working fine Altermiter Mini X99 DDR4 DIMM motherboard which is the Huananzhi X99-8MD3 i believe.
If only every TechTuber were like you. Thanks.
Your videos are really excellent!!! Thanks!! I'm going for a X99 D8.
R$ 737,31 34%OFF | Huananzhi x99 placa-mãe com xeon e5 2620 v3 2*8g ddr4 2666 NON-ECC conjunto de kit combinação memória nvme usb3.0 atx servidor
a.aliexpress.com/_mK6ZDIt
Oq acha dessa
Thanks for the video.
Atelmiter/Kllisre x99 can be used with Ddr3 or ddr4?, I'm waiting for the kllisre version, bud I did not know that the model could be used with Ddr3, in that case, I already have 16gb for it.
There are different models of this motherboard. The look is identical, but some have DDR4 slots, others DDR3. Depends on what you have bought you might need one or another one.
@@Miyconst Thanks for clarify my doubt, sl2.
man, this is amazing work and dedication
Dear, thanks for Your professional review. Do You have any experience with SZMZ X99 S3? I would like to run E5-2697 V4 on it.
I am sorry to disappoint, but I didn't test the X99 S3 motherboard.
@@Miyconst thx for fast response!
Great video! I'm considering buying a X99 Mobo + E5 2620v3 kit. Can you recomend any budget cooler (from AliX, in preference) for me to use with this configuration? Do I have to take into account which Mobo I will pick before I choose the cooler?
From AliExpress I would pick the well known "Snowman" cooler. All motherboards are LGA 2011-3 mounting compatible, thus it doesn't matter which motherboard you pick.
Can you tell whether if I access your sponsored link to AliExpress but buy any different product on the same store (like if I buy a kit which has no sponsored link) will you get the support as well?
It's hard to say, AliExpress affiliated links are working very strange. Sometimes I get a few coins from such purchases, sometimes I don't get anything.
A very useful video, thanks.
Question: In your summary you do not mention the BIOS and access to RAM timings / overclocking options. How would rate (best > worst) the 6 motherboards in this respect ?.
All of the recommended motherboards either come with BIOS which has RAM timings or have a BIOS modification with the options.
Thanks for this round up video, was in a bit of a split between the machinist x99z and the jingsha x99-d4 boards. But the possibility of accidentally bricking the machinist board has made me consider the jingsha/kllisre board.
but it has quad channel tho
@@ckngmad1357 true but I computer savvy as I am I still don't have the capability of flashing a bios through a USB flasher. And stability is a greater priority for me.
Then just leave the BIOS settings on default, do not overclock and do not tighten the RAM timings. Machinist X99Z does not turn into bricks on its own, it only happens when you try to apply some invalid settings in BIOS. Also, I can't yet confirm this, it's possible to clear CMOS with the following steps: connecting the clear CMOS jumper, remove the motherboard batter, let the board lie like this for a few hours.
Great video, do you have any experience with alzenit mini dtx x99 boards?
I have not yet tested that board, but I have heard some bad things about it.
Thank you, very good video and explanatory !!! I'm trying to save a Wovibo X99 DDR4 card you know where I can find a BIOS for it? will the BIOS of a Huananzhi, Atemier, Kllisre or JingSha work on it?
pt.aliexpress.com/item/4000485288727.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.2742b90aC6Deon
I have not tested that board, since the quality is very poor, but most likely the Atermiter/PlexHD BIOS is compatible.
@@nolimits.studios looks like a Jingsha x99m-h rebranded.
Hi ! Awesome video you are one of the rare youtuber to talk about "old" but powerful CPUs
Got a question, if i buy the Huananzhi X99-F8 (8×DDR4 RAM) do you think i'll be able to install 6 × DDR4 RAM sticks and get better perf than only 4 ? Or it'll just nor work ?
You won't get any extra performance, since the CPU supports maximum 4 memory channels. You will get physically more memory, but not better performance. Anyway, I would recommend you to use either 4 or 8 modules.
@@Miyconst oh okay awesome, at least i can try and i might have more Ram available :) !
I looked at your reviews, i think i'll buy a x99 motherboard really soon, the Huananzhi seemed to be really good but i'm a bit worried i might also get a dead RAM slot at a point in time. I consider using it for at least 5-8 years with a Rx Vega 56, for VR and mainly use.. so i'd like something really reliable.
Any card you could recommend to me in terms of reliability ? I saw you tested a few other ones since your best x99 motherboards video
@@MrGeoffrey1998 I would personally pick JingSha X99 D8.
@@Miyconst oh in terms of reliability you'd pick this one ? I cannot find your review of the JingSha x99 D8, maybe it's the same one as the Kilsire ? :)
Hi Miyconst, first I want to thank you for all your knowledge shared!! I recently bought a Kllisre X99 D8 with Xeon 2678 v3, I was in doubt about this motherboard and the Huananzhi X99-F8, but watching your video "HcKZScU88Ak" I would see that the active VRM fan would be a problem so I become happy with the choice for the Kllisre. I just want to ask you if the Xeon 2678 v3 clock is really locked at 2.5GHz with this board (in stock) and I'll can't go higher than this? If I desire to run at a maximum of 3.0GHz what I need to do? Flush the X99-F8 Bios? Sorry I'm really lost, would you comment here an easy step-step to reach 3.0GHz with this Xeon (if it be impossible with stock settings, of course)? Thank you very much!!!
You have to apply so called turbo boost unlock hack. I have a tutorial for that: www.miyconst.com/Blog/View/2081/xeon-e5-2600-v3-turbo-boost-unlock
Hello mate, such a great video indeed, all this info should archived for future buyers haha, btw i have a couple of questions.
1. Will the budgets versions of machinist,killsre and jingsha d4 be able to work under normal temps if the e5 2620v3 was with turbo hack?
2. Without turbo hack, do you think this same cpu 2620v2 will be able to keep playing games to come in 3 to 4 years? Thanks!
All of the recommended boards are able to handle E5-2620 V3 Turbo Unlocked. Without Turbo Unlock this CPU is just not good enough, thus I would not recommend it for gaming in this case.
@@Miyconst thanks my friend, but, why is it that you dont recommend the stock 2620v3? cause in some videos its faster at stock speed thant a 2630 v2 running @2.9.
@@dariollanos E5-2630 V2 is an older CPU, which I don't recommend at all. Running E5-2620 V3 at its stock speed is a waste, unlocking turbo boost is simple and brings a nice performance increase, that's why I don't recommend running it at the stock values, unless you are looking for a simple office PC.
@@Miyconst i see thanks a lot mate, one last thing, regarding the nvme m2, if i use will the mobo disable the sata ports? I read about it somewhere, i see the machinist have an options for ssd m.2 and i guess that will be a better option?
@@dariollanos Some Chinese X99 motherboards support SATA M.2 drives and NVMe M.2 drives. When using a SATA drive, one of the SATA ports will be disabled.
Nice, now I know what to buy thank you !
What ya buy???
Love these videos, I keep finding the memory config/potential performance loss bit confusing, if I get X99 MB with 2xDDR4 8GB ram instead of 4 sticks, am I only getting dual-channel memory configuration and how much FPS loss in BF5?
The performance loss will be insignificant, if you have tight memory timings. You can watch my other video on this subject: th-cam.com/video/l95V_s4rVm0/w-d-xo.html
thanks, best coverage of aliexpress x99 on youtube.
Hey, did you change your picks now?
Yes, AliExpress market is constantly changing. Welcome to watch my later update here: th-cam.com/video/338EhbY8PZ4/w-d-xo.html
Great review. Like! Can please you put link(s) to the the modified BIOSes? Also can you review LGA 2011-3 dual CPUs motherboards from Aliexpress?
Modified BIOS files are available to download from the Turbo Boost Unlock guide: www.miyconst.com/Blog/View/2081/xeon-e5-2600-v3-turbo-boost-unlock
Dual socket motherboard reviews are about to come, just need to test them first.
Great presentation. If I want to choose a motherboard with dual cpu for a hackintosh workstation what would be your advice ?
Take something that is known to work. As far as I know, the Chinese dual socket X99 motherboards were not yet used for a successful hackintosh.
@@Miyconst What board do you think I should use for Hackintosh workstation (I would prefer support for RECC DDR4 at least 128GB, E5-2678/2680/2690 v3, NVME M2 at least)? Where do I find succesful builds as an example? Would you try on your hardware a build? Thanks a lot!
@@roxtaz I know a few stories of successful Hackintosh build on top of a JingSha X99 D8 with 128 GB of RAM and E5-2678 V3, thus I recommend this board :).
Hello. Great job on reviewing the motherboards etc. One thing I should suggest, add a short intro to your video and ask viewers to click on Like if they find it useful. There are over 10,000 views as of my writing and only 609 likes which is not reflective of your great work. Thank you again for doing this.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will think about it. Many TH-camrs have very aggressive begging for likes and subscribes, which is very annoying for me, that's why I don't want to do that.
Really nice improvement in video quality and editing... you are really enojable! keep it up
Thanks, got the ultra budget one. Hope it works fine.
Since you seem to know good chinese shops...any reliable recommendation for ITX MBs (or complete SBCs) ?
Sorry, there are no good mini-ITX boards from China, as far as I know.
Is there any made in Taiwan or something, I can't, I just can't even though I want too or can use one if "decent".... Also do any have UEFI Bios?
I don't think Taiwan makes any of these. UEFI BIOS, do you mean fancy UI? Why would you want that?
Hey nice channel!
Someone shared your channel on the PixelTalk discord :)
Definetly subscribed!
Welcome to the channel, hopefully you will find some interesting and useful information here :).
This active cooling on VRM section is just silly. Reminds me some very old motherboards with such small coolers on NB. It never works good and sooner or later (and rather sooner) it will start to be noisy.
Hi Miyconst, I buy the machinist x99z thanks to you, and is rlly good I have it from 5 months ago and work great, but now i have a problem clear cmos dont work, do u know some way for reset bios? Greetings 😀
This is a known issue of X99Z motherboard. You can try to use BIOS from iEngineer, it is supposed to fix the issue, but not guaranteed. To restore the BIOS you would need a CH341A.
@@Miyconst I did some changes in the bios and now when I turn on the pc the keyboard does not work until windows starts, because of this it is impossible to access the bios 😭
@@jesuscampos2463 you can try to use another keyboard, another USB port, flash the BIOS from Windows, but in general - learn the lesson, don't mess with the BIOS if you don't know what it is :D.
Моя x99-t8 тоже застряла было в Сингапуре на три недели по дороге в Бразилию, но сегодня наконец вылетела. Через HK зато за две недели к нам всё доходит сейчас, теперь всех селлеров прошу почтой Гонконга слать.
Дякую за інформацію. Нажаль, в моєму випадку, контроль на митниці, також потребує чимало часу.
@@Miyconst same shit here, I need to wait up to 2 weeks for customs release.
Amazing, thank you!
Thanks for the videos, another Brazilian in your apprentice collection! like
Thank you very much for your video. Could you recommend the motherboard of chinese for me the cpu I7 5820k? I have small budget want to build my cp.
I can't, at the moment, but I am in progress of testing Machinist X99-K9 with i7-5820k, so stay tuned.
@@Miyconst Thank you so much, I will order this motherboard
Hello, can you find the VT-x in the BIOS of Jingsha motherboard?
No, as far as I know this particular option is missing.
Hi @MiyConst Do you know if there's some issues with X99 and Kllisre memory DDR4 2400mhz (PC4-19200U-CL17) ? Already had 2x16GB of this memory in a Atermiter X99 motherboard working perfectly but decided to upgrade it with 2x16GB more. No way, they are not being recognized in Atermiter X99 neither in a Jingsha X99 MH. Despite should be the same model and memory... I find the circuit is slightly bit difference. Are you aware of some incompatibilities with this memory and motherboard?. Thanks and regards!
Yes, there are memory modules with only 4 memory banks, these are not supported by the X99 platform, unfortunately.
@@Miyconst I didn't take off the thermal cooler plate, but I bet that's the issue. I appreaciate differences between the memory circuits. It's not a big deal because Aliexpress accepted my return, but anyways it's a waste of time for everyone. I'm sure they're aware of this issue, don't know why they don't warn about this compatibility. Thanks again for your answer! and take care.
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Good video. I'll take the F8 because it has 2 M.2 and 3 PCIe. I will watercool the VRMs.
Thank you for the video, i purchased a killsre X99 (still don't understand the right name... ) and just seen your video, did you know if there are solutions for USB 3 malfunctions? and what bios can i flash ?
There are no solutions for USB issues, it's a hardware defect. To be able to answer anything about the BIOS, I need to know what is your motherboard.
@@Miyconst the motherboard is the one with WiFi support in the corner on the right down side, "full unlocked bios" in your video means that is capable to overclock cpu and ram with original bios? Thanks for all your videos, i were capable to understand a little in this X99 world
@@sebastianoarcidiacono5181 if I understood you description correctly, that motherboard is just another revision or modification of PlexHD X99-Turbo, which I don't like and don't recommend. "Fully Unlocked BIOS" means that it's not write-protected, and it's possible to use FPT to read/write BIOS.
@@Miyconst It's exactly that model it.aliexpress.com/item/4000974911783.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.18713867xVzM4e there is a bios i can flash to overclock? i found a 1650 v3 for 60 euros instead the 2660 v3 i have, would be interesting try to overclock it.
@@sebastianoarcidiacono5181 sorry, I am not aware of the BIOS options for this motherboard. This motherboard is known for its poor quality, and I do not recommend overclocking any CPUs with it. Still, you can search for BIOS options on this website: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011-3/plexhd-x99/
Great channel, thank for yor big work, you have a review of huannanzhi video cards?? are more cheap
I have got Huananzhi GTX 1660 Super & Huananzhi RTX 2060 for a review. The video is planned to come out during the next week.
Do you recommend flashing the Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on boards that support it, in general? I have 2 JingSha X99-8D3. I use them as servers, so I need stability over performance. I cannot control the RAM timings and I have 8x32GB DDR3-1333 DIMMs on each. All of the DIMMs can work at 1600Mhz individually, maybe even more, but the boards have to run at 1066Mhz or they will freeze on memtest86. It's very difficult to run 8 four rank DIMMs on almost any board (even on branded boards). With X79 based boards they don't work out of the box, I have to put dual ranked modules, set the timings manually, and then swap to four rank modules because AUTO config fails. Another thing that I need is headless mode (boot without GPU), and it works fine even without any actual option within the BIOS. I'm missing the option to restore last power state on a power failure, thou.
No, I do not recommend using Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on JingSha X99-8D3, at least because I have never tested that motherboard and can't guarantee that it is compatible. If you are willing to experiment and risk bricking your motherboard - then it might be worth trying it. In case you dare to try - please remember to share your experience with the community. According to this page, the motherboard is supposed to work well with Huananzhi BIOS, there is also a modified original BIOS with memory timings option. Thus, if you are willing to experiment, the downloads are available here: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011-3/jingsha-x99-v1-0/#_Huananzhi_x99-TF
great content master of chinese motherboards!!! i just have one question can i use snowman cooler 6 heat pipes in any of this motherboards? thank you and godbless!!! shout out here in the philippines 🇵🇭
As far as I know, Snowman coolers are fitting well on these motherboards. There are two versions of this cooler though, one designed for LGA 2011 mounting, this one installs straight onto the motherboard with four screws, the other general version can be installed with usage of the AM4 mounting clip, which comes with almost every Chinese X99 motherboard.
Miyconst thank you for answering more power to your channel!!! 👍
Thanks for the very detailed explanation of what and why.
What makes me sad (actually a lot) is that all of those boards seem to only have 1 4-pin connector. I mean, with everything going on on those boards 2 4-pin-connectors for PWM-Fans shouldn't be too much to ask for (if you have different Fans, e.g. 120 for the system and 140 for the CPU cooler/AIO running all of them on the same speed is .... not brilliant :( )
Especially as ALL 3-pin connectors are just unregulated connectors for 100% fanspeed usage (good for AIO pumps, but nothing else....)
I think, the fan connectors is not the biggest issue of these boards. You can always add an external fan controller.
@@Miyconst true, but to be honest why being forced to do this if it could have been included easily and with one fan profile setup in the bios you're done compared to another element and maybe she to fiddle with
@@alexanderneukam1065 I totally agree with you. These Chinese factories are doing some super silly decisions and absolutely ignore feedback from people like me.
machinest x99z - "clear cmos didn't work." did you try pulling the battery out for a little while? just wandering.
Yes, I tried. Didn't work either. I have had a bunch of these boards. Clear CMOS worked with some of them if I wait for ~10-15 minutes with removed battery and shortened Clear CMOS jumper.
In one of my setups I have the Atermiter x99. It works 100% with 2630v4, but when I tried to use a 4640v4, strangely the 3rd memory slot did not work.
Do you have a final or an engineering sample CPU? Did you try to clean the CPU contacts with clear spirit? Are you sure that CPU itself is fully functional?
I have watched several of your videos and was wondering one thing, does ECC mode works when using ECC memory ? thanks
It works on some boards and doesn't work on others.
@@Miyconst OK. I will use DDR4 ECC, do you think ECC mode will work on the F8 or TF ?
@@aesma2522 Yes, it does work, at least for me.
Ordered and using X99Z-V500 with 2678v3 about a month, it looks like X99Z-v102 but a bit different, I'm still using it with stock bios because I'm worry I will brick the board when flash the bios, would you review it in future? Is it require external USB programmer or just can flash it in windows? Thanks.
Hi. As far as I know, it's exactly the same board as Machinist X99Z, just a slightly different look. You can post a picture of the board if you want to double check. You can use mine Mi899 tool to flash the turbo unlock BIOS if the board is X99Z.
@@Miyconst Here's the link of my motherboard, x99z-v102 have four DDR4 slots and this one(v500) have two DDR3 and two DDR4. ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H06bf005d5b254cd5afea0398b4c02f5cv/X99-motherboard-set-with-Xeon-E5-2678-V3-LGA2011-3-CPU-2pcs-X-8GB-16GB-2400MHz.jpg
@@KH_1 I have not yet tested the motherboard myself, but as far as I know it's fully compatible with the Machinist X99Z BIOS.
hi, im looking for a good chinese Mb for 6950x, witch one would you recommand me ty. (no oc just for home server with an old cpu) ?
By the way, there is a DDR3 variant of the Jingsha X99 D8, that would be a good alternative to the corresponding Huananzhi boards (and costs about 79 EUR currently). My X99-TF and Xeon 2678 V3 finally arrived last week, and overall I am quite happy with both. There is a bit of BCLK variation (it stays at 99.74 - 99.94 MHz mostly but it peaks up to 108 Mhz) and the front USB3 slows down to 20 MB/s after ca. 20 seconds. My CPU also doesn't like the -20 mV undervolt on the memory controller if I try to run 2133 Mhz DDR3 memory. But I am also satisified with 1866 Mhz with very tight timings (got it to 68.4 ns latency and 58k write speed in AIDA - 4 x 8 GB SK Hynix 1866 with BFR chips and ECC). My gaming performance with a Vega 56 is better than on my Ryzen 2600 with 3466 Mhz Micron Rev. E RAM and tight timings. And as my Ryzen CPU was a very bad sample which didn't OC over 3800 Mhz, I happily sold it and got a better system for a lower price. Thanks a lot for your videos which did help me a lot!
I am glad to help and thank for sharing so much useful information. Could you please clarify about the USB 3.0 ports. The transfer speed slows down after a while, but what happens with the system itself? Does it stay stable or hangs / crashes?
@@Miyconst The system is stable, it is just that the transfer speed is below expected levels (from 60 MB/s for the first minute it goes down to around 20 MB/s after crossing a certain threshold). I will investigate it further, it could be harmless.
@@Miyconst It turned out that everything is fine with the USB ports, I tested it with a faster/better USB stick and the performance is where I expect it to be.
the x99-D4 link goes to the X99M-H which has 4 ram slots and matx size. wonder what the verdict would be..
I am going to test this motherboard, hopefully soon.
Hello, and thank you for your nice videos.
Have you seen that there is a new bios version for the x99-tf motherboard, on the official website? I am not a computer specialist, and I don't have the USB flash tool ( in case things goes bad). But if you try it out it would be nice to know if it is any good.
Could you please provide a link to that motherboard? So far I don't see any new revision of Huananzhi X99-TF.
It says that it is from 25 may 2020.
www.huananzhi.com:8080/driversdownload/X99-TFDrive/X99-TFBIOS20-5-25.rar
www.huananzhi.com/html/1/184/185/362.html
It doesn't mean that the BIOS is new, it only means that it was uploaded on May 25th :). Anyway, if I get my hands on a Huananzhi X99-TF again - I will test the "new" BIOS as well.
OK i see. Thank you anyways.
Are the smaller boards matx? I have an existing matx server and am considering an upgrade.
Yes, they are. I am not sure about the Veineda X99, but X99Z, X99 D4, X99-8M are fitting into the mATX format.
X99 TF motherboard is known to have problems with USB speed - cameras and USB-drives are not working well. Are you aware of such problems on the Kllisre X99 D8 or not?
I have not got any reports of this issue with the Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8 boards, personally I used an X99 D8 for a few months - didn't have any USB issues.
Thank you for this video
It's very difficult to use a custom bios? I was going to buy a huananzhi f8 but I don't like the fans, so i would better buy killisre one. I don't think I would use the bios a lot but at least to configure all in the first use
It's very easy, using mine Mi899 app you can flash a modified BIOS with just a few mouse clicks.
Do these boards support Core i7 on 2011-3 as well and are all of them C602/X99 based.... I happen to have a Core i7 5900k on shelf that I would like to use...
Because I found older variants to be based on H61
Yes, these boards support Core i7 CPUs, and the i7-5XXX can also work with ECC REG memory, just so you know. Some of these X99 boards have bad PCI-E layout which affects CPUs with only 28 lanes, but i7-5930k has 40 lanes, so it shall not be a problem.
Thanks for video. what is the difference between x99-k9 and x99z v102 please
I have not yet tested K9 variant, so I don't know the difference.
@@Miyconst
this is what the seller answered me:
1. BIOS version upgrade
2. Add WiFi card
3. Increase the motherboard atmosphere light
4. VRM has better heat dissipation effect
5. Upgrade of components
@@evgeniyk.4618 I really doubt that they have actually done anything extra except the M.2 WiFi slot and motherboard pain, but it's nice to see that they at least answer your messages.
Great video mate
does Huananzhi X99-AD4 support FPT ? and which bios is compatible with
It doesn't and I am not sure which BIOS is compatible, sorry, this motherboard didn't go through my testing.
@@Miyconst i just saw a tutorial on this motherboard but i want take the sure from you , i appreciate your reply thank you
Wow!! so good review!! Do the same review with Dual socket motherboard!!
I have to test the dual socket motherboards first. So far I have only tested JingSha X99 Dual & Huananzhi X99-F8D.
somenone knows if on machinist x99z we can control the pwm of fan? (smart fan)?
Yes, it's possible, but only with 4-pin PWM fans.
Does it support virtualization technology? I am planning to purchase JingSha X99 Dual CPU V1.1and install Vmware ESXI
It does.
How much difference does quad vs dual channel RAM make in gaming? Am trying to decide between a Jingsha D4 with 2 slots and the more expensive 4-slot Huananzhi TF/F8 to pair with a 2620 V3
Maximum 5% and only in the scenarios where you are CPU limited. In your case I would get a Machinsit X99Z and as good GPU as possible, for example a GTX 1660 Super would be a good match.
@@Miyconst Am a bit concerned by the clear CMOS issue on that board. Will probably spend a little more for better quality. If you had to choose between the Kllisre D8 and the Huananzhi F8 at the same price, which would you choose and why?
Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8. This is my favorite X99 board from China.
Montei dois kits com a X99m-h2. Ambos com 2x8Gb ddr4 2133, e5-2630l v3 (55W apenas), um com nvme m2 de 256 Gb e outro com um ssd sata de 256Gb, placas de video baratas pq não uso para jogos. UM com windows 10 pro e outro com Linux Mint 20.1. Ambos ficaram muito rápidos. Antes eu usava duas máquinas com e5450 e e5462. O material levou em média 2 semanas para chegar no RJ. Uma das placas que comprei junto com o m2, foi taxada em 177+15 e chegou 1 semana depois do resto das peças. Por enquanto tudo funcionando ok.