For those of you who cannot speak Japanese, Archer: I've seen it several times. Meaningless murder, meaningless equality, meaningless happiness! Even though I rejected it, it was shown to me! That wasn't what I wished for. I didn't become a Guardian for that! Shirou: Archer, what you're regretting is that I can't lose. I can lose to someone else. But I can't lose against myself!
All I wanna say is that when I first watched this vid I was like on my second year of HS many blue moons ago and I’m really happy that I was able to find it thx again for this awesome MAD
All that is missing now is a visual novel that shows how Emiya Shirou becomes Archer after being betrayed by everyone again and again- even though he swore to never regret. Kinoko Nasu and Urobuchi Gen excel in writing tragedy, after all.
Although UBW seems to be the most awesome storyline of the three, Heaven's Feel actually is WAY better than it first seems. I encourage everyone to play through Heaven's Feel if possible.
THIS IS AWESOME !!! I'm still trying to chose which I prefer between Heaven's feel and Unlimited Blade Works... I first prefered HF but there are just too many Archer and Lancer moments for me to choose... And Heaven's feel good ending has that indescreptible "harem feeling" Sakura, Rin PLUS Rider... Shirou's gonna get some fun...
Archer was going on about how he fought throughout history, fighting to protect humanity from destruction. It could just mean that he made an appearance during the French Revolution for one reason or another.
Unlimited Blade Works and Heavens Feel are different chapters of the story, alternative stories, although what is revealed in each about the characters is the same for all stories. For instance, you learn in Unlimited Blade Works that Archer is actually Shirou from the Future, and although that isn't explained or mentioned in the Fate route, it's technically the same for the fate route.
One of? This *is* the best F/SN mad...I always see people link to this one and if you're a F/SN fan and haven't seen ya pretty much live under a rock. And doing that on the internet is pretty bad.
Sadly no, EMIYA is already outside the concept of time, thus Rin saying that if Archer dies now everything is for nothing, since archer technically speaking is only a vessels that contains the what makes EMIYA. That's why if a servant times in next war if summoned again they won't retain any memory (save for Saber since she's still alive). That's why the ending is quite bittersweet and cool.
"Rin was most likely summoned a different Archer class servant " Not necessarily. During Archer's timeline, he could be also a Shiro that met with this same Archer, but only later it hit him that it was himself... when he already became the "Archer" he knew from the War
I feel it is the same Shirou each time. The situation just makes him act differently in each ark. If not it would have to react MUCH differently tot toshaka in Heavens feel then he would have in UBW, for being what he felt for her in UBW...
Mhmm If Rin summoned the archer we know, however shiro didn't realize it until later, it will just keep looping until archer makes a perfect plan since he repeats the same scenario over and over again and learn from the past archer mistakes. It will go on and on until he is satisfied. Time traveling is confusing.
The visual novel is... well... Fate/stay night. That's what it was originally - the anime was adapted from the VN. There's also Fate/hollow ataraxia, a VN sequel, and Fate/zero, a light novel prequel.
yeah i was just saying what i thought from y point of view if you knew archer came from the ilya route but didnt know how exactly that small portion of the vid can be intense
To summarize the replys before me: It's 3 alternate possibilityes how the grail war could have happened. While route "fate" is the base story the other two are "what if"s -Fate--> mostly the same as the anime -UBW--> the sory of archer and shirou+in this route Tohsaka will be Emiya-kun's pair. Basicly it's the story of shirou's ideal to become a hero. -Heaven's feel --> the superdetailed explanation how the war is and a love story between Sakura & Shirou. UBW and HF are better than fate-
The gist of it is the Emiya Shirou who has become the heroic spirit "Archer" will always exist no matter what is done. Even Archers own plan to try and create a temporal anomaly by killing his younger self had less that a 1% chance to succeed and archer wasnt even sure if it ever had the chance to.
@wisefelipe You realize it when exploring the side material and it is slightly hinted in the game itself. The Servants aren't all Heroic Spirits. There's Heroes and Anti-Heroes, that's why a class like Assassin and Avenger could be summoned and why there are Evil and Neutral Spirits ("mass murderers are also called heroes" as Rin said). Emiya Shirou was bound as a Counter Guardian and forced to be a cleaner, a spirit who merely murders people to fix tragedies.
I suppose it could be true, heroic spirits are untouchable above Alaya and Gaia in the throne of heroes. So if Emiya were to become one he'd no longer be a counter guardian. But since EMIYA already exists I'm not sure there's any way to stop that existence; time travel is kinda wonky and Nasu has never been clear on how it works.
Actually, he didn't make it >_> (Thats why there is a link to its source) The more I watch this the more I like it, thanks for posting. I don't suppose you have original sitting around do you?
ahh, now I remember. thx, it was rly starting to bug me. and try watching Soul Eater if you haven't already. it's rly good if yur into action-comedy anime
omae ni wa makenai ... dare ka ni makeru wa ii, kedo , jibun ni wa makerarenai !!! I can't lose to you... Its fine to lose to anybody else, but , I can't lose to myself !!!
Basically though: Fate Route: Original Story, About Saber/Shirou UBW Route: About Archer/Shirou/Tohsaka Heavens Feel: About Sakura/Shirou They are only in the Visual Novel, not in the anime, the anime/manga kind of summarizes them together...sort of. But mainly follows the Fate route. There is also Fate/Zero which is what happened in the Grail War before this, that is a NovelNovel. Google BakaTsuki and find it on their website, they are translating it.
Lulz 1 month reply XP Actually the first thing that enter my head is "Cool we would see Shirou became Archer" but when i tell my other friend that also played FSN he said "So Shirou's going to take Ilya too? Oh Yeah!!!" I was like O.o at the time XP
Avalon only works if Saber and Shirou have a contract together though it only works minorly without the contract I doubt it would keep let him live through Gae Bolg. However IF Shirou reality Marble goes berserk and starts putting blades in his body to stop wounds like it did when he fell off a building or when Gilgamesh tried to explode Shirou's body then he MIGHT survive it, it matters what blades he knows of like if Excalibur is guarding his heart Gae Bolg would probably not get through.
you could only play the UBW route if you have finished the fate route, for the HF route you need to finish the first 2 routes. you could find the diversion road between fate and UBW on the day when saber was just summoned and was to attack archer, if you let her attack archer-fate, if you stop her-UBW*note that you could only see this choice after finishing the fate route, FOr the HF, starting from day 1 you should have more time for sakura and try visiting her house often, that would lead you.
yup, there can be 2 outcomes -Disaster -Awsomness -i dont realy know how they wanna do anything realy cool in 90 minutes. Thats equeal with 6 anime episodes
@vergilheartnet The protagonist of FSN is Shirou, and Archer is a possible future of Shirou. Archer made a pact with the world, but the protagonist might not (eg. Heaven's Feel Shirou is unlikely to become like Archer). Either way, Shirou will NOT become Archer, they are separate entities.
yeah i guess that is , because he came back and also knew Ilya so i guess he was the shirou back then who had Arturia as servant grew up like that and came back to save himself and the others (even tho i wanna play the games i cant find em T_T so i know only cause of the anime which is not like the novel as they told me ...T___T and i'm an archers fan :P)
@geenius3ab Even though all signs piont toward Archer being the future of Shirou after fate arc ended, Kinoko himself had stated that Archer may or may not be the result of any endings in the game. I guess TM fans in Japan were constantly arguing on this topic and he wanted to put an end to it.
@nikoniko667 I did play the three routes, maybe I missed something but I always had the impression that Emiya was a regular Heroic Spirit, and like all other had no memories of when he was called into the world, the reason he knew all that is that he already knew it when he was alive. Anyway, do you remember in which route/part of the game this counter-guardian thing is said?
@LeonGun8 I knew about the things you said, but I had thought that both Heroes and "anti-heroes" became heroic spirits, with no distinction between the two types after they were dead. I thought every heroic spirit got called as cleaners, not just the "bad ones". What does the "good" heroic spirits like Cu Chullain or Hercules do then?
@geenius3ab It's said that Emiya was the result of Ilya's path that was taken out from the game, I think it may be true, even though the Fate path is the one of three that would make more sense, it still didn't make THAT much sense, in Fate Shirou never becomes the avenger type. In a way, the Heaven's Feel path is the most similar to the little we know of Emiya's story, but the values are completely different so it couldn't be that one.
to tell the truth idk. in heavens feel. he says too stop this from happening agian means he went trough this already? and the part where he said he must kill things like this early when he was going to kill zouken. my gues he is from all arcs since he has all the information from everything that happens or will happen
@HolyDeviant Really? I thought Archer was what Shirou would become if Shirou stayed true to his beliefs of becoming a "hero". From that point I would suspect for Shirou to make the pact with the world and become a counter servant?
@HolyDeviant That's wrong, Archer is always the same archer, he only reacts depending on the choices you make, moreover its stated there are a countless number of alternate universes, Archer is a Shirou from a different universe never the same exact shirou in route, Hes not the Emiya Shirou of the fate, Unlimited Blade works, or heavens feel routes, im pretty sure that much was plain as day when i went over it.
@jvn09211 there are two more other routes besides from fate, the UBW and heaven's feel, to unlock UBW just pick "stop saber" choice when saber was going to attack RIN(forgot what night), you could only see this choice however if you finished the fate route. To unlock HF you need to go back from the beginning and choose go to sakura instead of going to work and on the other days all of your choices must be in favor for sakura and in no time youre in HF route.
@wisefelipe Actually, I'm sure some of my details are wrong but, True Heroic Spirits are not summoned to save the world from destructions. Strong humans who make a contract with the world (like Saber and Archer Emiya) become Guardians and therefore are sent to kill anyone connected to an incident, innocent or guilty.
@nikoniko667 I'm not sure what you meant exactly by counter-guardian, but if you are talking about his "job" of being called whenever the world is in trouble, that's what Heroic Spirits are supposed to be for, so every Heroic Spirit is a counter-guardian. Anyway, Archer does not remember anything of his time as a heroic spirit, his last memories are of his life, the reason he knows so much is because he knew of these things when he was still alive (since he took place in the Holy Grail War)
12年前なのに完成度たかっ！！
For those of you who cannot speak Japanese,
Archer: I've seen it several times. Meaningless murder, meaningless equality, meaningless happiness! Even though I rejected it, it was shown to me! That wasn't what I wished for. I didn't become a Guardian for that!
Shirou: Archer, what you're regretting is that I can't lose. I can lose to someone else. But I can't lose against myself!
音声があるＭＡＤは珍しい。
アーチャーの最後の笑みは感動です。
12年後、fate3章が劇場で見れるなんて。。。。
Emiya, why is that you are so awesome? It is hard to focus on real life when your life is in reach.
Damn this hits right in the feels!
Edit: Also this is very nostalgic to me!
神mad❗
このmadが俺がFateを知るきっかけになりました
YO HOWD HE MAKE THIS 12 YEARS AGO THIS IS SO WELL DONE
もう、シロウがカッコよすぎて生きるのが辛い
懐かしの名作
All I wanna say is that when I first watched this vid I was like on my second year of HS many blue moons ago and I’m really happy that I was able to find it thx again for this awesome MAD
I watched this several times in 2008 x_x
サイコーです！
All that is missing now is a visual novel that shows how Emiya Shirou becomes Archer after being betrayed by everyone again and again- even though he swore to never regret.
Kinoko Nasu and Urobuchi Gen excel in writing tragedy, after all.
Awesome, truly one of the best Fate video out there ^^
Whoever made this did a fantastic job.
this video gave me chills..... nice =) i love the scene where shirou and archer fight against eachother
the vid was too short :( AWESOME EPICNESS!! ever since I started watching these MAD movies, I haven't liked my other AMVs the same way I used to
Can't wait for the UBW movie!!! :)
Amazing
Thank you.
Sick music! I love archer!
士郎の髪の毛が白くなる仕様好きだわ。
abosulutely true, i watched the anime first by chance then learned about the VN by then. I'm glad it happened that way smae for tsukihime.
It must be hurt that this fan made is better than most F/SN openings, which are almost the exact thing just with a little changes.
but they are also huge spoilers ^^
*remembers ufotable's openings*
ok
Well...you know...the anime staffs have to think of the budget...
"si je perd contre quelqu'un cela me va...Mais je ne peut perdre contre moi même!"
Nice answer shiro !
Although UBW seems to be the most awesome storyline of the three, Heaven's Feel actually is WAY better than it first seems. I encourage everyone to play through Heaven's Feel if possible.
thank you m8
Ahh well, it's still sooner than I had expected...
I think this movie is very good!!!
Great video Love the Counter Guardian EMIYA (Archer) video!!!
Where you found it... plust the Shakugan no Shana II song was great!
ah. I really like the title. :D
THIS IS
AWESOME !!!
I'm still trying to chose which I prefer between Heaven's feel and Unlimited Blade Works... I first prefered HF but there are just too many Archer and Lancer moments for me to choose...
And Heaven's feel good ending has that indescreptible "harem feeling" Sakura, Rin PLUS Rider...
Shirou's gonna get some fun...
ohhhh thanks for clearing it up now i just feel slow lol
Archer was going on about how he fought throughout history, fighting to protect humanity from destruction. It could just mean that he made an appearance during the French Revolution for one reason or another.
indeed, you really should try the visual novel, it's SO awesome!
I'm currently reading unlimited blade works, the second story.
Damn love the vid man and i actualy watched the anime lol it was awesome to!
Unlimited Blade Works and Heavens Feel are different chapters of the story, alternative stories, although what is revealed in each about the characters is the same for all stories.
For instance, you learn in Unlimited Blade Works that Archer is actually Shirou from the Future, and although that isn't explained or mentioned in the Fate route, it's technically the same for the fate route.
fate extra was awesome too i still waiting for ccc :S
Like sasgay said, he's the writer of all those novels and he's the big mushroom that sometimes appears as a logo and in F/HA xD
One of? This *is* the best F/SN mad...I always see people link to this one and if you're a F/SN fan and haven't seen ya pretty much live under a rock. And doing that on the internet is pretty bad.
Sadly no, EMIYA is already outside the concept of time, thus Rin saying that if Archer dies now everything is for nothing, since archer technically speaking is only a vessels that contains the what makes EMIYA. That's why if a servant times in next war if summoned again they won't retain any memory (save for Saber since she's still alive). That's why the ending is quite bittersweet and cool.
Unlimited
Blade
Works
the second scenario of the fate stay night game, and also archer's Reality Marble
It's called JOINT, it's the first opening to Shakugan no Shana II.
The FSN visual novel is the FSN story. The anime you seem to be referring to is actually the first 1/3 of the VN though you'll want to download all 3.
I feel like there was another version of this that used to be around...
Be nice if it could be found.
Both are pretty great, honestly.
Omg they need a Fate/Stay Night Extra Disk Containing the Illya Route, i think they were going to call it the Mind Of Steel Route
the last time I watched this video was 10 years ago
"Rin was most likely summoned a different Archer class servant "
Not necessarily. During Archer's timeline, he could be also a Shiro that met with this same Archer, but only later it hit him that it was himself... when he already became the "Archer" he knew from the War
too true
well it still would happen since she still has the pendent that was used to heal him as the medium.
The VN is awesome, it's a MUST READ. Also if you read the VN then you'll enjoy the ufotable's adaptation more than the ones that did not read it.
faker and proud!!
I feel it is the same Shirou each time. The situation just makes him act differently in each ark.
If not it would have to react MUCH differently tot toshaka in Heavens feel then he would have in UBW, for being what he felt for her in UBW...
Mhmm If Rin summoned the archer we know, however shiro didn't realize it until later, it will just keep looping until archer makes a perfect plan since he repeats the same scenario over and over again and learn from the past archer mistakes. It will go on and on until he is satisfied. Time traveling is confusing.
The visual novel is... well... Fate/stay night. That's what it was originally - the anime was adapted from the VN. There's also Fate/hollow ataraxia, a VN sequel, and Fate/zero, a light novel prequel.
yeah i was just saying what i thought from y point of view if you knew archer came from the ilya route but didnt know how exactly that small portion of the vid can be intense
Wish I could go back in time (哭）
To summarize the replys before me:
It's 3 alternate possibilityes how the grail war could have happened.
While route "fate" is the base story the other two are "what if"s
-Fate--> mostly the same as the anime
-UBW--> the sory of archer and shirou+in this route Tohsaka will be Emiya-kun's pair. Basicly it's the story of shirou's ideal to become a hero.
-Heaven's feel --> the superdetailed explanation how the war is and a love story between Sakura & Shirou.
UBW and HF are better than fate-
"I wasn't wrong!"
The gist of it is the Emiya Shirou who has become the heroic spirit "Archer" will always exist no matter what is done. Even Archers own plan to try and create a temporal anomaly by killing his younger self had less that a 1% chance to succeed and archer wasnt even sure if it ever had the chance to.
me gusto bastante muy buen video sobre la Ruta de el juego UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS ^_^
this is opening of Shokugan no shana!!!
So...judging from the comments Fate/stay night is good? I only saw this video because Shakugan no Shana's op was used. New anime to watch now ^^
Maybe it was a trend during the time he was a hero?
@wisefelipe You realize it when exploring the side material and it is slightly hinted in the game itself. The Servants aren't all Heroic Spirits. There's Heroes and Anti-Heroes, that's why a class like Assassin and Avenger could be summoned and why there are Evil and Neutral Spirits ("mass murderers are also called heroes" as Rin said). Emiya Shirou was bound as a Counter Guardian and forced to be a cleaner, a spirit who merely murders people to fix tragedies.
I suppose it could be true, heroic spirits are untouchable above Alaya and Gaia in the throne of heroes. So if Emiya were to become one he'd no longer be a counter guardian. But since EMIYA already exists I'm not sure there's any way to stop that existence; time travel is kinda wonky and Nasu has never been clear on how it works.
UBW made me cry swords.
Actually, he didn't make it >_> (Thats why there is a link to its source)
The more I watch this the more I like it, thanks for posting.
I don't suppose you have original sitting around do you?
ahh, now I remember. thx, it was rly starting to bug me. and try watching Soul Eater if you haven't already. it's rly good if yur into action-comedy anime
Joint by Mami Kawada...first opening of Shakugan no Shana II
omae ni wa makenai ... dare ka ni makeru wa ii, kedo , jibun ni wa makerarenai !!!
I can't lose to you... Its fine to lose to anybody else, but , I can't lose to myself !!!
I’m back here for algorithm.
lol now i c y i didnt know it im currently reading UBW and so far i wish they made the anime about this 1 as well
これが現代人と12年前の人の技術の差とは、現代人は負けてしまった
Basically though:
Fate Route: Original Story, About Saber/Shirou
UBW Route: About Archer/Shirou/Tohsaka
Heavens Feel: About Sakura/Shirou
They are only in the Visual Novel, not in the anime, the anime/manga kind of summarizes them together...sort of. But mainly follows the Fate route. There is also Fate/Zero which is what happened in the Grail War before this, that is a NovelNovel. Google BakaTsuki and find it on their website, they are translating it.
Lulz 1 month reply XP
Actually the first thing that enter my head is "Cool we would see Shirou became Archer" but when i tell my other friend that also played FSN he said "So Shirou's going to take Ilya too? Oh Yeah!!!" I was like O.o at the time XP
after 10/9 years, im here another time. shit, i think that i will cry.
Avalon only works if Saber and Shirou have a contract together though it only works minorly without the contract I doubt it would keep let him live through Gae Bolg.
However IF Shirou reality Marble goes berserk and starts putting blades in his body to stop wounds like it did when he fell off a building or when Gilgamesh tried to explode Shirou's body then he MIGHT survive it, it matters what blades he knows of like if Excalibur is guarding his heart Gae Bolg would probably not get through.
you could only play the UBW route if you have finished the fate route, for the HF route you need to finish the first 2 routes. you could find the diversion road between fate and UBW on the day when saber was just summoned and was to attack archer, if you let her attack archer-fate, if you stop her-UBW*note that you could only see this choice after finishing the fate route, FOr the HF, starting from day 1 you should have more time for sakura and try visiting her house often, that would lead you.
yup, there can be 2 outcomes
-Disaster
-Awsomness
-i dont realy know how they wanna do anything realy cool in 90 minutes. Thats equeal with 6 anime episodes
@vergilheartnet
The protagonist of FSN is Shirou, and Archer is a possible future of Shirou. Archer made a pact with the world, but the protagonist might not (eg. Heaven's Feel Shirou is unlikely to become like Archer). Either way, Shirou will NOT become Archer, they are separate entities.
I'm still trying to understand the connection between the "Liberty Leading the People" and Archer at 1:47
yeah i guess that is , because he came back and also knew Ilya so i guess he was the shirou back then who had Arturia as servant grew up like that and came back to save himself and the others (even tho i wanna play the games i cant find em T_T so i know only cause of the anime which is not like the novel as they told me ...T___T and i'm an archers fan :P)
@geenius3ab Even though all signs piont toward Archer being the future of Shirou after fate arc ended, Kinoko himself had stated that Archer may or may not be the result of any endings in the game. I guess TM fans in Japan were constantly arguing on this topic and he wanted to put an end to it.
The sheer amount of gar is overwhelming.
@nikoniko667
I did play the three routes, maybe I missed something but I always had the impression that Emiya was a regular Heroic Spirit, and like all other had no memories of when he was called into the world, the reason he knew all that is that he already knew it when he was alive.
Anyway, do you remember in which route/part of the game this counter-guardian thing is said?
@LeonGun8
I knew about the things you said, but I had thought that both Heroes and "anti-heroes" became heroic spirits, with no distinction between the two types after they were dead.
I thought every heroic spirit got called as cleaners, not just the "bad ones". What does the "good" heroic spirits like Cu Chullain or Hercules do then?
@Tri3dgE027 rin can summon the future how cool is that i mean i hope they make things awesome like the novel or manga
@geenius3ab
It's said that Emiya was the result of Ilya's path that was taken out from the game, I think it may be true, even though the Fate path is the one of three that would make more sense, it still didn't make THAT much sense, in Fate Shirou never becomes the avenger type.
In a way, the Heaven's Feel path is the most similar to the little we know of Emiya's story, but the values are completely different so it couldn't be that one.
It's opening 2 (or 1, can't remember exactly) of an anime titled "Shakugan no Shana"... you should be able to figure out the rest by yourself :p
to tell the truth idk. in heavens feel. he says too stop this from happening agian means he went trough this already?
and the part where he said he must kill things like this early when he was going to kill zouken.
my gues he is from all arcs since he has all the information from everything that happens or will happen
did any1 else think that the red txt looks like what happened on the last episode of soul eater? and what anime does this song go to?
@HolyDeviant
Really? I thought Archer was what Shirou would become if Shirou stayed true to his beliefs of becoming a "hero". From that point I would suspect for Shirou to make the pact with the world and become a counter servant?
@HolyDeviant That's wrong, Archer is always the same archer, he only reacts depending on the choices you make, moreover its stated there are a countless number of alternate universes, Archer is a Shirou from a different universe never the same exact shirou in route, Hes not the Emiya Shirou of the fate, Unlimited Blade works, or heavens feel routes, im pretty sure that much was plain as day when i went over it.
@jvn09211 there are two more other routes besides from fate, the UBW and heaven's feel, to unlock UBW just pick "stop saber" choice when saber was going to attack RIN(forgot what night), you could only see this choice however if you finished the fate route. To unlock HF you need to go back from the beginning and choose go to sakura instead of going to work and on the other days all of your choices must be in favor for sakura and in no time youre in HF route.
@litemarcus
It's JOINT, Shakugan no Shana Second's first opening. Don't remember the singer,though
I am the bone of my sword!
@wisefelipe Actually, I'm sure some of my details are wrong but, True Heroic Spirits are not summoned to save the world from destructions. Strong humans who make a contract with the world (like Saber and Archer Emiya) become Guardians and therefore are sent to kill anyone connected to an incident, innocent or guilty.
ehm *more informations* ?^^
"JOINT ("Shakugan no Shana 2" OP)"
i known i´ve heared this somewhere before
i wonder what it would be like if he shot Exalibur as a broken plantasim
@nikoniko667
I'm not sure what you meant exactly by counter-guardian, but if you are talking about his "job" of being called whenever the world is in trouble, that's what Heroic Spirits are supposed to be for, so every Heroic Spirit is a counter-guardian.
Anyway, Archer does not remember anything of his time as a heroic spirit, his last memories are of his life, the reason he knows so much is because he knew of these things when he was still alive (since he took place in the Holy Grail War)