Fijians didn't come from africa that was a made up story by colonizers. If we look at valid points like language, culture etc. Kaunitoni does not sound like an African word Fijians originate from Taiwan that was actual research done by historians cause there's a link in the language! Just cause Fijians are dark doesnt mean they come from africa, all of you saying that should learn the culture, language etc and you'll notice the huge difference, most of the oral history that is passed down doesnt even match what's written in our history books! Many colonizers and the Chiefs that were educated in the early days would alter the history and family tree in their favor to gain more power! Let's base our arguments of facts and not on fairy tales and skin colour
You've taken a lot of trouble to reply. Thank you. I agree with everything you said. The Africa theory is silly. I agree on Taiwan. I heard some indigenous Taiwanese singing the other day and it sounded Polynesian! Quite extraordinary!
Being a grandson of a fijian chief, our legend state we traveled down the river Rufiji in Africa south of Tanzania, Apparently we were warrior who also worked as gold mines Egypt
Kaunitoni did arrive by that time, way back as they say, but the people are already in Fiji at the time of arrival of Kaunitoni, Nakauvadra are already been settled by Natives, that's history.
It fable that about this the powerful chief Lutunasobasoba and his people followed the trade cross the Indian Ocean traveling south east Asia settled Fiji Island pacific
1st century cushites from Ethiopia settle in Tanganyika 10th century AD about this time the fable of fijian from Tanganyika ( Chronological History man in Tanganyika)
That's why fijians are part of the melanesian group including Solomon islands , native aborigines papa new guinea and Tonga samoa Hawaii polynesian... if fijians had stronger ties to Asia they would look like polynesians
@@justcallmebrian793 that's like saying Canada is a good blend of multi cultures. Keyword is Kaiviti , native fijians are the darkest. Just like Aborigines, Solomons, Papa new guinea.
@@justcallmebrian793 that's true some look Polynesian because they already mix but we talking about where original indigenous Fijian. They not part Taiwanese, they are original African cos they sailed all the way from Africa
Why do Fijian circumcision No doubt the fijian brought the custom with them in remote times, and it's origin is probably the same in their case as in that of the Nacua of Central America and Bantu race
Ancestors of Fijians other Melanesians came from Papua New Guinea then later on intermixed with the Taiwanese Aboriginals who further went further east to populate the Polynesian Islands.
@@ThePaleBlueDotPeople in the coastal areas of PNG had intermixing with the Austronesians that came through and headed eastward. Prior to that Papuans had been living in New Guinea for more than 50,000 years.
@3335AO Genetics did. Ancestors of present day Melanesians are Papuans and that is a fact. Polynesians and Micronesians would trace theirs back to Taiwan
@3335AO Research it. Google it. Look up fellow Melanesians (Fijians) on TH-cam who took DNA test it clearly shows Papuan in their DNA. Where do you think Melanesians originated from, obviously not Taiwan although they do have Austronesian influences to varying degrees?
@3335AO It looks like you're either uneducated or basically ignorant of genetic and anthropological evidence. Genetics don't lie. You can't ague with FACTS.I will leave you to your own delusional beliefs. FULL STOP.
Truer words have never been spoken! Good video and we can thank our Crown colonizers for fabricating stories about Fijian origins. We did not come from Africa the same way we did not reach Vuda first. More likely, we are from Asia, Taiwan specifically, as well as Indonesia (refer to the movement of language). If there was a more plausible explanation to the first landing spot on Fiji, it'll be the sand dunes area of Nadroga where Lapita pottery was found (these pottery date back as far back as 1600 BCE).
Thank you, Roberto. I’ll be doing a follow up vlog on the subject. Sand dunes of Nadroga is a very good candidate. There are a few other places too. I’ll give my suggestions in the forthcoming vlog.
@@kingoesm1357 What is your source? If you subscribe to the artificial separation of the Pasifika into the 3 ethnographic groups, then you naturally align to the myth of the African diaspora resulting in Melanesians (back then, it was foreign to associate rich melanin to the proximity to the equator). Genetically and linguistically, Fijians are not even close to Africa , rather, more to South East Asians, like all Pasifikas are). Fee free to browse the vast catalogue at the "Journal of Human Genetics" from scholars who have done this research. Genetics my friend, is "irrefutable science".
How is it islanders have the same climate but totally different Gene's. Sorry maybe your ancestors came from asia but native fijians are African origin
What does a European know about fiji's history........we as kids...growing up in the village listen to the stories of our grandfather's...telling the strory of ancient fiji....Where we came from...the village were from......How important it is to know who u are....i think we should listen to this stories....rather than take the word of a man..who know's nothing about what his saying....we as I taukei need to protect history tradition and culture....those and our belief in God is the only thing keeping us strong....stay blessed😇🇫🇯🇫🇯🇫🇯
Absolutely, but then when God comes in the picture and shows us the truth. The myth and legend will always be ..'myth & legend!! Where we come from, Africa maybe, Asia maybe only God knows, all i know i am a Kaiviti
The Fijians came from Africa just like other race of people in Ancient times . There were more landmasses in those days compared to today as sea level was much below . Another thing they did not start there Journey on sailing ships but on land . Trekking from Africa into Asia until Southern Parts of Indian Subcontinent. From Africa to here it took not one but many generations . Later they made there sailing ships maybe somewhere there or down South Indonesia . There were landmasses connecting Indonesia, Indian subcontinent and towards Papua new guinea. There must have been also shallow waters hear and there connecting landmasses . Some Groups sailed while others just walked or waded through . Some Groups reached PNG , Vanuatu , others to New Coledonia, Solomon islands and rest to the Fiji Islands . There may have been several groups of people from Africa and become mixed up in this Great Journey . That's why Today Melanesian Groups look different from each other . For the Fijian groups some mixed up with the Polynesians much later . Remember all this Journey not from a single generation but several until they reached here what it is called The Fiji Islands. I support this theory coz there are still aboriginal people living in the Indian oceans . They are direct descendants of the original migration from Africa . There are several Indian tribes of Afro origin still living on Andaman Islands near Thailand . These groups still living in stone age as hunter gatherers and avoids western contact .So these groups descendants also migrated from Africa and ended up on those Islands . Maybe they did not went downwards but stayed on that place .One thing more those Islands are on direct path from which place the Ancestors of the Melanesians came from .
Very detailed and lengthy contribution, Sam. There are so many theories on the origins of Fijians. Yes, I know about the Andaman Islanders. There are also Africans living in India who are recent arrivals and who have adopted Indian customs. It's a fascinating world out there.
No man!!! Why the hell would they take the risk to sail thousands of miles into the unknown? Did the Africans know about the pacific before sailing, were they already aware of the location? Fijians didn't come from africa!!!!!!! Stop being narrow minded!!! Fijians came from Taiwa/Indonesia thats why the language they speak is polynesian and not melanesian thats also why their culture is polynesian!!!! Do some research man!
The irony. It was the Colonizers/Brits who ingrained the African-origin into you but all of a sudden, this fact presented in this video is an issue because it comes from a non-native? He is doing a much better job than you can ever imagine, and if you're not willing to change your mindset, that's on you, the worlds moving along as scientific discoveries are made.
@@robertonestaj1329 the irony is Kaivitis are a dying breed. The irony is indians were brought to plant sugar cane by british and have nothing in common with black people 😂
@@robertonestaj1329 Thank you Roberto. That Carl Johnson is incredibly ignorant. I've taken down some of his other comments but I think I'll leave this one.
@@nicm8909 Have you been watching a different video? He never mentions that Indians have anything to do with "black" people, whoever "black" people are. So I'm afraid you're arguing against yourself here.
Fijians didn't come from africa that was a made up story by colonizers. If we look at valid points like language, culture etc. Kaunitoni does not sound like an African word Fijians originate from Taiwan that was actual research done by historians cause there's a link in the language! Just cause Fijians are dark doesnt mean they come from africa, all of you saying that should learn the culture, language etc and you'll notice the huge difference, most of the oral history that is passed down doesnt even match what's written in our history books! Many colonizers and the Chiefs that were educated in the early days would alter the history and family tree in their favor to gain more power! Let's base our arguments of facts and not on fairy tales and skin colour
You've taken a lot of trouble to reply. Thank you. I agree with everything you said. The Africa theory is silly. I agree on Taiwan. I heard some indigenous Taiwanese singing the other day and it sounded Polynesian! Quite extraordinary!
@@ThePaleBlueDot Wow! Hope you recorded it and it's going to be in an upcoming episode..?
@@robertonestaj1329 Hi Roberto! The singing was on the radio. If you want I can send you the link.
@@ThePaleBlueDot That'll be fantastic, yes please!
@@robertonestaj1329 Have a listen to this: th-cam.com/video/-lAI5QFXEFM/w-d-xo.html
Being a grandson of a fijian chief, our legend state we traveled down the river Rufiji in Africa south of Tanzania, Apparently we were warrior who also worked as gold mines Egypt
Fascinating. 😃
Thank you Azeem SHK for your blog on Fiji 🇫🇯 much appreciated.
My pleasure, Karoliza. There’s more on my TH-cam channel. Enjoy. 😃✌🏽👍🏽👌🏽🙏🏼
Always interesting and entertaining.
Thank you Katie! :)
Kaunitoni did arrive by that time, way back as they say, but the people are already in Fiji at the time of arrival of Kaunitoni, Nakauvadra are already been settled by Natives, that's history.
So many narratives, nuimaia, depending on whom you speak to. :)
love the stories after all the off topic comments and stories ...stay on point
Vinaka, Vince! I have so many more stories to tell. Fijian history is absolutely fascinating.
good job bro
Thank you! :)
Keep up on your journey boss👍🏾 ignore these ignorant comments from people who don't know what they're talking about. Genuinely intrigued.
Thanks, Holy. Will do. Just waiting for things to return to some normalcy after the wave of Covid-19 infections that has swept the country.
You are not an ilander
It fable that about this the powerful chief Lutunasobasoba and his people followed the trade cross the Indian Ocean traveling south east Asia settled Fiji Island pacific
Totally agree. 😃
1st century cushites from Ethiopia settle in Tanganyika
10th century AD about this time the fable of fijian from Tanganyika ( Chronological History man in Tanganyika)
Thank you for sharing. 😃
Myth....Fiji was already occupied before those settlers landed. It is said there were al ready signs of smoke around Viti Levu
Interesting comment. Where did you read or hear this?
@@ThePaleBlueDot you might want to have a read core.ac.uk/download/pdf/29198512.pdf
Vinaka Azeem...Great job and interesting clips...vinaka Azeem Kai Viti
Vinaka Taina! Lots more to come. Stay tuned! 😃
That's why fijians are part of the melanesian group including Solomon islands , native aborigines papa new guinea and Tonga samoa Hawaii polynesian... if fijians had stronger ties to Asia they would look like polynesians
Many Fijians do look Polynesian especially people the lived in Eastern Fijian, Fijian is a good blend of both Melanesian and Polynesian.
@@justcallmebrian793 that's like saying Canada is a good blend of multi cultures.
Keyword is Kaiviti , native fijians are the darkest. Just like Aborigines, Solomons, Papa new guinea.
Spot on! Many Fijians from the eastern group such as Lau do look Polynesian because of the Tongan influence.
nic m, thanks mate and thas very true. Tell them that we not Taiwanese
@@justcallmebrian793 that's true some look Polynesian because they already mix but we talking about where original indigenous Fijian. They not part Taiwanese, they are original African cos they sailed all the way from Africa
Originally circumcision custom ancient times
Brought with them Remote times
Vuda and vereta
Two names still Tanzania to day
Too many interruptions and that kills the story for me.
Oh, dear!
Circumcision custom culture
Sign
Where grandfather came from
Two lake Tanganyika
Rukwa and Rufiji
Rukwa means fijian words Rukuwa
Thanks for your input. 😃
Why do Fijian circumcision
No doubt the fijian brought the custom with them in remote times, and it's origin is probably the same in their case as in that of the Nacua of Central America and Bantu race
Please complete your story and don’t let things interrupt you.
Don't worry, more coming soon! :)
Ancestors of Fijians other Melanesians came from Papua New Guinea then later on intermixed with the Taiwanese Aboriginals who further went further east to populate the Polynesian Islands.
Well said. That is almost certainly true. Apparently New Britain in the Bismarck Archipelago of PNG is an important stopping point in this migration.
@@ThePaleBlueDotPeople in the coastal areas of PNG had intermixing with the Austronesians that came through and headed eastward. Prior to that Papuans had been living in New Guinea for more than 50,000 years.
@3335AO Genetics did. Ancestors of present day Melanesians are Papuans and that is a fact. Polynesians and Micronesians would trace theirs back to Taiwan
@3335AO Research it. Google it. Look up fellow Melanesians (Fijians) on TH-cam who took DNA test it clearly shows Papuan in their DNA. Where do you think Melanesians originated from, obviously not Taiwan although they do have Austronesian influences to varying degrees?
@3335AO It looks like you're either uneducated or basically ignorant of genetic and anthropological evidence. Genetics don't lie. You can't ague with FACTS.I will leave you to your own delusional beliefs. FULL STOP.
Truer words have never been spoken! Good video and we can thank our Crown colonizers for fabricating stories about Fijian origins. We did not come from Africa the same way we did not reach Vuda first. More likely, we are from Asia, Taiwan specifically, as well as Indonesia (refer to the movement of language). If there was a more plausible explanation to the first landing spot on Fiji, it'll be the sand dunes area of Nadroga where Lapita pottery was found (these pottery date back as far back as 1600 BCE).
Thank you, Roberto. I’ll be doing a follow up vlog on the subject. Sand dunes of Nadroga is a very good candidate. There are a few other places too. I’ll give my suggestions in the forthcoming vlog.
The Polynesians came from Taiwan.The Melanesians came from East Africa.2 Different People
@@kingoesm1357 What is your source? If you subscribe to the artificial separation of the Pasifika into the 3 ethnographic groups, then you naturally align to the myth of the African diaspora resulting in Melanesians (back then, it was foreign to associate rich melanin to the proximity to the equator). Genetically and linguistically, Fijians are not even close to Africa , rather, more to South East Asians, like all Pasifikas are). Fee free to browse the vast catalogue at the "Journal of Human Genetics" from scholars who have done this research. Genetics my friend, is "irrefutable science".
How is it islanders have the same climate but totally different Gene's. Sorry maybe your ancestors came from asia but native fijians are African origin
So what your saying is black colored people cannot travel from east africa because of distance , but asians have no problem traveling to hawaii😭😂
My great grandfather Is Lutunasobasoba he was the first Fijian to arrive at vuda Point
Wow! You must have a few family stories.
lmho
What does a European know about fiji's history........we as kids...growing up in the village listen to the stories of our grandfather's...telling the strory of ancient fiji....Where we came from...the village were from......How important it is to know who u are....i think we should listen to this stories....rather than take the word of a man..who know's nothing about what his saying....we as
I taukei need to protect history tradition and culture....those and our belief in God is the only thing keeping us strong....stay blessed😇🇫🇯🇫🇯🇫🇯
We were also told that monsters will attack you if you whistle at night. There's a difference
@solitary ... the new itiktok-ei, living in vitiktok
... so, how come ya have a european name there, mosese? hmm?
Absolutely, but then when God comes in the picture and shows us the truth. The myth and legend will always be ..'myth & legend!! Where we come from, Africa maybe, Asia maybe only God knows, all i know i am a Kaiviti
Fijians Are Mixed @ They Are All From Small South Pacific Countries Like Tonga Tuvalu Vanautu Kiribati Papa New Guinea.
Truth is no one knows.
I think we have some idea but we can't say for sure. I'll revisit the topic at some point.
in the words of Peter Tosh ' no matter where you come from, as long as you're a black man you're an African'
Peter Tosh, what a talented singer. Much missed.
Not vunda, it’s vudah
Yes, that's correct! :)
pronounced voond-da
@@squidjames7735 Nice one.
Nope it's vunda are you even fijian the letter d is pronounced "nd" like nadi is Nandi
This is from an Indian perspective right❓ Good photography 📍
No, it’s from the perspective of history. You should try it some time.
... nah mate, it is just a historical take
@@squidjames7735 Well said.
@@ThePaleBlueDot Noted. Like your pointing out the #uto (breadfruit). The Fijian Language meaning of it too. Well done there. 👍🇫🇯🌴
@@ThePaleBlueDot Noted. Like your pointing out the #uto (breadfruit). The Fijian Language meaning of it too. Well done there. 👍🇫🇯🌴
The Fijians came from Africa just like other race of people in Ancient times . There were more landmasses in those days compared to today as sea level was much below . Another thing they did not start there Journey on sailing ships but on land . Trekking from Africa into Asia until Southern Parts of Indian Subcontinent. From Africa to here it took not one but many generations . Later they made there sailing ships maybe somewhere there or down South Indonesia . There were landmasses connecting Indonesia, Indian subcontinent and towards Papua new guinea. There must have been also shallow waters hear and there connecting landmasses . Some Groups sailed while others just walked or waded through . Some Groups reached PNG , Vanuatu , others to New Coledonia, Solomon islands and rest to the Fiji Islands . There may have been several groups of people from Africa and become mixed up in this Great Journey . That's why Today Melanesian Groups look different from each other . For the Fijian groups some mixed up with the Polynesians much later . Remember all this Journey not from a single generation but several until they reached here what it is called The Fiji Islands. I support this theory coz there are still aboriginal people living in the Indian oceans . They are direct descendants of the original migration from Africa . There are several Indian tribes of Afro origin still living on Andaman Islands near Thailand . These groups still living in stone age as hunter gatherers and avoids western contact .So these groups descendants also migrated from Africa and ended up on those Islands . Maybe they did not went downwards but stayed on that place .One thing more those Islands are on direct path from which place the Ancestors of the Melanesians came from .
Very detailed and lengthy contribution, Sam. There are so many theories on the origins of Fijians. Yes, I know about the Andaman Islanders. There are also Africans living in India who are recent arrivals and who have adopted Indian customs. It's a fascinating world out there.
The Fijians came from East Africa and the Polynesians came from Taiwan...2 Different People.
No! No! No!
Lol brother it's not that some people "cant" see it they "dont want to see it".
Apparently Africans arent aloud to immigrate but everyone else can.😂
All this "scientific" talk but no talk on continental drift.. The earth's surfaces moves like its people.
No man!!! Why the hell would they take the risk to sail thousands of miles into the unknown? Did the Africans know about the pacific before sailing, were they already aware of the location? Fijians didn't come from africa!!!!!!! Stop being narrow minded!!! Fijians came from Taiwa/Indonesia thats why the language they speak is polynesian and not melanesian thats also why their culture is polynesian!!!! Do some research man!
Taiwan and Indonesia ❌❌❌ Seriously 🤦♂️ Who told you that??? Taiwan and Indonesian people 🤣
Lots of confabulation
Too much.
Watching indo fijians spread knowledge about Kaivitis is like watching Europeans teach native American culture 😂
The irony. It was the Colonizers/Brits who ingrained the African-origin into you but all of a sudden, this fact presented in this video is an issue because it comes from a non-native? He is doing a much better job than you can ever imagine, and if you're not willing to change your mindset, that's on you, the worlds moving along as scientific discoveries are made.
@@robertonestaj1329 always indians claiming to be fijian because they're ashamed to be called indians 😂
@@robertonestaj1329 the irony is Kaivitis are a dying breed. The irony is indians were brought to plant sugar cane by british and have nothing in common with black people 😂
@@robertonestaj1329 Thank you Roberto. That Carl Johnson is incredibly ignorant. I've taken down some of his other comments but I think I'll leave this one.
@@nicm8909 Have you been watching a different video? He never mentions that Indians have anything to do with "black" people, whoever "black" people are. So I'm afraid you're arguing against yourself here.
All bullish story