If umpire grants time, ball is dead until they say otherwise regardless of where anybody is at. If player calls time, but ump doesnt acknowledge it.. LIVE BALL.
the catcher left the plate and walked to the mound.the pitcher was NOT in the circle. the catcher can NOT demand time out. a player can only request time.if the runner request time and it was granted the play is dead. if the defense request time it doesn't have to be granted. runner on 3rd goes back play is dead as soon as the batter on second was granted time. hardball and softball are different. hardball the play is live and catcher left home unattended unless runner request time but why would they if play is still live
umpire at 2nd base raised their hands so time was called. personally I don't have a clue why that umpire called, but once the hands go up time is called.
Player can't call time. Player may only request time. Only the umpires may call time. This is a live ball. You can see the umpires in a ready state. Players should make sure time has been granted before abandoning their positions.
It's going to be called a dead ball, runner go back to 3rd. Why? If the commentary is correct and the umpire granted a time out, that's how they will rule it. Umpires do not overrule granted timeouts. The pitcher does not have to be in the circle for a timeout to be granted. The 3rd baseman could have called timeout before giving the ball to the pitcher and that could have been granted as long as the hitter/:runner on 1st was not advancing to 2nd. The question remains, " why was the catcher our of position "? Remember this ... anyone can call timeout, from anywhere on the field or from the dugout, but only the umpire can grant it. So, try it, if it works you're good, if not, be in position and pay attention.
32 comments on here so far, and not one person knows what they’re talking about - add in the announcers for good measure. The Batter/Runner called and was granted time. They do this all the time to take their armor off (elbow guards, etc). Would it have been better to have the ball in the circle before granting time? Yes. But the fact is the matter is that time was granted to the OFFENSE. The OFFENSE screwed themselves here. It has zero to do with the catcher. Dead ball. Runners at second and third.
Yeah, this was a good call by Blue to call the runner back to 3rd. Catcher clearly called time, and smart on her to do so BTW, and UMP clearly granted it a sec or two before the runner takes off at 3rd, meaning the ball was dead and technically the runner should be out.
The Catcher cannot "call time", only request Time. Apparently, the umpires granted the timeout, however very weak mechanics on both their parts. Since Time was granted, and the ball is dead, the Runner is simply sent back to 3rd, and not called out during a dead ball.
players do not call time, they request it. Umpires grant time. The runner takes off nearly the exact same time the umpire is raising her hands to grant time. Good call bringing the runner back. Why would the runner be out? What rule reference do you have to justify that?
Its all a matter of IF an umpire awarded time out. Voice over says home plate ump gave it, but they gave no sign of it, even stepped toward the plate as the runner came. Someone pointed out the 2nd base umpire called time, but it was very weak.
I am assuming the plate umpire (now at third) called time. The catcher's request is obvious, and the plate umpire kinda-sorta lifts her hands. (0:20-0:21, and 2:31-2:32) Without the actual sound of the game, there's no way to tell if the umpire called anything verbally. IF this is what happened, the ball is dead, period. It is poor mechanics by the umpire, but it still kills any play. Also IF this is what happened, nobody got screwed. The runner was still on third when the plate umpire apparently called time. (The catcher raises her hands a second time, [0:23, or 2:33-2:34] and some might be fooled by that, but by then time had apparently already been granted.)
For a catcher to call timeout in softball the picture has to be inside the circle for to be a dead ball, so the third base runner should be safe at home because the play is not dead.
I couldn’t find that rule that pitcher must be in circle for catcher to request timeout. If umpire here granted timeout, then ball is dead even if it’s a mistake by umpire. Again, I looked abd could not find any rule regarding pitcher bein* in circle ofr time to be called by defense.
IF,,,,, An umpire declared time then the ball is dead and the player returns to third! But it was never declared which umpire granted the time out! It was a really bad call, as after the runner began to advance the catcher requested time! once the play continued it was a live ball condition! BAD UMPIRING!!!!!!
In my opinion it is a live ball. Now the umpire granted the time out. He shouldn't have until to pitcher had the ball in the circle. Regardless he granted it and therefore must stand by it and the team at bat got screwed. But if he allowed the run the defense gets screwed when they thought they had a time out
I do not see the umpire grant time at any point in this video. The mechanic is to loudly call "time!" while raising both hands directly overhead, and both fields umpires should mimic the signal. Neither of those things happened. If the plate umpire certainly called time but just did not use proper mechanics, this is the proper result; if it was instead just confusion, this run should have scored. I have had these situations numerous times. Usually it's a failure by the defense not paying attention to runners. If you watch the umpires react, you'll see that they did not act as if time had been called (including the umpire who supposedly called time). If the home plate umpire had actually called time, she should have reiterated the "time" call and used the mechanic again to stop play, but she didn't. The pitcher being in the circle when time was called is irrelevant. If the pitcher is in the circle with the ball, there is no need to call time.
@@ronnieelkin6596 yes, and it's terrible mechanics and field control by the 3b ump. Never should have granted time for the runner on second. No one near second had the ball, so there was no reason to grant time for that runner. 3u should have allowed 1u to control the field. (When 1u is rotated to home, he becomes the pu until they rotate back.)
If umpire grants time, ball is dead until they say otherwise regardless of where anybody is at. If player calls time, but ump doesnt acknowledge it.. LIVE BALL.
U are correct
ez call live ball.Poor call by the blues.
Live and I would send the runner all day 😊
the catcher left the plate and walked to the mound.the pitcher was NOT in the circle. the catcher can NOT demand time out. a player can only request time.if the runner request time and it was granted the play is dead. if the defense request time it doesn't have to be granted. runner on 3rd goes back play is dead as soon as the batter on second was granted time. hardball and softball are different. hardball the play is live and catcher left home unattended unless runner request time but why would they if play is still live
Time was granted by homeplate umpire. It was suttle but still time called and granted.
umpire at 2nd base raised their hands so time was called. personally I don't have a clue why that umpire called, but once the hands go up time is called.
Second base umpire calls time though so the call is dead ball 0:20
Player can't call time. Player may only request time. Only the umpires may call time. This is a live ball. You can see the umpires in a ready state. Players should make sure time has been granted before abandoning their positions.
Live ball if no one asked for time
@Baseball umpires this true
live ball the umpire must let the full play develop and the pitcher was not inside the circle.
Doesn't really matter. It is soft ball.
It's going to be called a dead ball, runner go back to 3rd. Why? If the commentary is correct and the umpire granted a time out, that's how they will rule it. Umpires do not overrule granted timeouts. The pitcher does not have to be in the circle for a timeout to be granted. The 3rd baseman could have called timeout before giving the ball to the pitcher and that could have been granted as long as the hitter/:runner on 1st was not advancing to 2nd. The question remains, " why was the catcher our of position "? Remember this ... anyone can call timeout, from anywhere on the field or from the dugout, but only the umpire can grant it. So, try it, if it works you're good, if not, be in position and pay attention.
Second base umpire calls time though so the call is dead ball 0:20
No run scored.
Live Ball no time was called pitcher was outside circle
32 comments on here so far, and not one person knows what they’re talking about - add in the announcers for good measure. The Batter/Runner called and was granted time. They do this all the time to take their armor off (elbow guards, etc). Would it have been better to have the ball in the circle before granting time? Yes. But the fact is the matter is that time was granted to the OFFENSE. The OFFENSE screwed themselves here. It has zero to do with the catcher. Dead ball. Runners at second and third.
Yeah, this was a good call by Blue to call the runner back to 3rd. Catcher clearly called time, and smart on her to do so BTW, and UMP clearly granted it a sec or two before the runner takes off at 3rd, meaning the ball was dead and technically the runner should be out.
The Catcher cannot "call time", only request Time. Apparently, the umpires granted the timeout, however very weak mechanics on both their parts. Since Time was granted, and the ball is dead, the Runner is simply sent back to 3rd, and not called out during a dead ball.
players do not call time, they request it. Umpires grant time. The runner takes off nearly the exact same time the umpire is raising her hands to grant time. Good call bringing the runner back. Why would the runner be out? What rule reference do you have to justify that?
Under what rule would you call the runner out?
Its all a matter of IF an umpire awarded time out. Voice over says home plate ump gave it, but they gave no sign of it, even stepped toward the plate as the runner came. Someone pointed out the 2nd base umpire called time, but it was very weak.
I am assuming the plate umpire (now at third) called time. The catcher's request is obvious, and the plate umpire kinda-sorta lifts her hands. (0:20-0:21, and 2:31-2:32) Without the actual sound of the game, there's no way to tell if the umpire called anything verbally. IF this is what happened, the ball is dead, period. It is poor mechanics by the umpire, but it still kills any play. Also IF this is what happened, nobody got screwed. The runner was still on third when the plate umpire apparently called time. (The catcher raises her hands a second time, [0:23, or 2:33-2:34] and some might be fooled by that, but by then time had apparently already been granted.)
For a catcher to call timeout in softball the picture has to be inside the circle for to be a dead ball, so the third base runner should be safe at home because the play is not dead.
EXACTLY
I couldn’t find that rule that pitcher must be in circle for catcher to request timeout.
If umpire here granted timeout, then ball is dead even if it’s a mistake by umpire. Again, I looked abd could not find any rule regarding pitcher bein* in circle ofr time to be called by defense.
Their is no rule in middle high or college about pitcher in curcle to call time that's only in little league rules.
"Safe" at third. "Live ball". Runner scores.
Live ball
cant hear cause of the loud ass music
If rules stat that time can only be called when the pitcher is in the circle then live ball
So many mistakes here. So many.
You can not just take a time out when you want to "live ball" players have to be in the correct place to be a legal time out.
I thought after the safe that time would be called so the umpires can get back in position. They weren't in position
Runner could have called for time she did not
IF,,,,, An umpire declared time then the ball is dead and the player returns to third! But it was never declared which umpire granted the time out! It was a really bad call, as after the runner began to advance the catcher requested time! once the play continued it was a live ball condition! BAD UMPIRING!!!!!!
In my opinion it is a live ball. Now the umpire granted the time out. He shouldn't have until to pitcher had the ball in the circle. Regardless he granted it and therefore must stand by it and the team at bat got screwed. But if he allowed the run the defense gets screwed when they thought they had a time out
Umpire is a chick. Or at least born one.
I do not see the umpire grant time at any point in this video. The mechanic is to loudly call "time!" while raising both hands directly overhead, and both fields umpires should mimic the signal. Neither of those things happened. If the plate umpire certainly called time but just did not use proper mechanics, this is the proper result; if it was instead just confusion, this run should have scored. I have had these situations numerous times. Usually it's a failure by the defense not paying attention to runners. If you watch the umpires react, you'll see that they did not act as if time had been called (including the umpire who supposedly called time). If the home plate umpire had actually called time, she should have reiterated the "time" call and used the mechanic again to stop play, but she didn't.
The pitcher being in the circle when time was called is irrelevant. If the pitcher is in the circle with the ball, there is no need to call time.
Watch the ump behind second. I think she calls time for the runner at 2nd. That might be why they didn't let the run stand.
@@ronnieelkin6596 good obs. I didn't see that until your mentioning it.
@@ronnieelkin6596 yes, and it's terrible mechanics and field control by the 3b ump. Never should have granted time for the runner on second. No one near second had the ball, so there was no reason to grant time for that runner. 3u should have allowed 1u to control the field. (When 1u is rotated to home, he becomes the pu until they rotate back.)
Mark up A RUN ON THE BOARD. PITCHER IS TO BE IN THE CIRCLE
Runner at third was out.