I recently acquired this bow in a 50lb draw, I picked it up a week ago, got myself a home target on Saturday, and it's a dream to shoot. Thank you for helping me find a good bow.
I gifted one To a friend on the completion of her doctorate . So in the UK there is a clinic psychologist who can be found with her AF Han shooting on Weekends . Thank you Master for this lovely review .
My AF Archery Han bow arrived today, my first Asian thumb release bow. The build quality is amazing at this price point IMO (US $69), no "cracks or pops" when I first pulled the string back, easy to string. Using a thumb ring, I shot a few to ground with an old arrow to get a feel, felt good, solid, light. I'm impressed. I'll give it a go at the range this weekend. Very happy so far. If this goes well, I'll be getting an AF Kadesh eventually, my next is an AC Archery Traditional Mongol bow. Thanks again for your demonstration and review, Armin.
Thank you for another great review I think I have now found the right bow to start my long draw thumb release journey, then in a year maybe the Simons raptor. Next to watch it the thumb ring and release videos. Keep up the great work
Thank Armin for putting up this review. I made a review of an AF archery bow also, and put a link to your How to start with Thumb Release to thank you.
I bought this bow from AF Archery, it creaked a bit when at full draw so i asked AF Archery if this was normal, they immeadiaely sent me a replacement bow, really cant fault the service with this company, i'm usually a bit wary of buying from China but would definately buy from them again.
Armin acts like a cat 🐈 when when he is testing bows, 😄 the way he reacted while hearing the creaking sound in the beginning of his first drawing od the bow😂😂😂
I wanted to buy one after your thorough review but it seems they only offer a FedEx shipping option to Austria for an additional whopping 120 USD which completely ruins the bargain price. Do you maybe have a workaround for this problem? I would be pleased to hear your ideas. :)
I am thinking about buying this bow. I ordered a xuanwu by Alibow and it broke in production so they have to make a new one.... I have no more patients to wait any longer. I want a 30 pound bow and every one else in my club uses 35 pound and up. So I have been using a 35 pounds bow a friend lend me. But it would be so nice to have a lighter bow. So maybe I can use this one till my Alibow arrives.
i bought this bow two years ago. my first bow and i still use it and love it. the whipping has had to be glued back on but for the price its a great bow. highly recommended. my 2nd bow, an alibow Kheshig is on its way:)
I have used the TopArchery version of the Han bow, it's basically the same as this but siyahs are a little cheaply made, no varnish and the edges were sharp enough to cut part of the string so I stopped using it because of that. But it was similarly very creaky like this bow, maybe it's just the shape of the Han bow and the whipping that makes the noise like this, kinda puts me off though. Regarding Alibow, their Fiberglass bows are amazing, I purchased a Manchu Yarha from them and it's amazing for the price, and very flexible, no noise. I did have some gripe with the first Yarha I got because the top siyah was slightly bent. They said this couldn't have been an issue with their bowmaking because they carve the siyah after they attach it to the bow, so it must've been from continuous pressure during shipping, but they sent me another which was excellent. The Kheshig from Yarha is one of the most amazing bows I've ever used, the wide limbs make accurate shooting SO easy, and I really loved that bow so much until about 2 weeks ago I happened to take it out just for a pull in my room, as I have been doing during lockdown, and suddenly the back delaminated in my hands as I was at about 32" and the whole resin part of the handle split away from the body, was very shocking, never experienced that with a bow. I'd only used it about 3-4 months in total, once per week. It was quite a shocking experience and I was very upset for a while, but I'm currently in contact with Alibow now who've said they have warranty on their bows, I am awaiting their verdict after sending them photos of the delamination - but honestly, the Kheshig is genuinely such a beautiful and balanced bow that I would still recommend anyone to buy it for their arsenal. Maybe if another Kheshig split on me I'd be put off after that, but it's great enough for me to go back and get another without a doubt. Hope that's good info for you!
Update, I bought the afarchery han bow and I am enjoying it I've only had the chance to shoot it about a 150 shots but I like it much better then the classic western style recurve bow.
I appreciate both are older videos, but I'm looking to get my first Asiatic bow (first bow of any kind actually), and wanted to get your thoughts on this AF Han Long versus the Alibow Ghengis Khan (likely in 25lbs @ 28 inches). Any recommendations as between the two?
Hello Armin! I saw lot of your videos and all are simply amazing! Love your reviews, I am new to archery and thinking about either this bow or Alibow tartar bow? Any suggestions from your side would be really helpful! Thanks much!
Thank you for the video- I have the exact bow with a little higher poundage. Been looking to buy some decent Manchu arrows and you mention Nikita Arrows ? I searched everywhere I can think but cannot find them.
AF Archery has a new Han bow design available for $85,. This design, long ears is still $75 but short ears 34” draw are on sale for $69 and going fast.
i bought one of those and it was too heavy at 34" draw. I bought the 50lbs one and didn't realise that was measured at 28". At 34" draw my bow measure 74lbs and its crazy heavy haha
@@ArminHirmer I ordered some bamboo Manchu arrows from Sarmat, but I cannot find non bamboo wooden manchu arrows. Traditionally my sources all say that they used poplar/birch instead of bamboo for some reason. I just wanted to do as was done because I tend to think they had a good reason for doing it. I'll have to email alibow and ask them if they'll make some special fletching for me at least. I'm sort of new to all of this.
The very long draw Chinese bows used lots of different arrow materials, depending on time period, region and the use of the bow. Poplar and birch arrows were absolutely on the list, usually barrel tapered and quite thick. This made them heavy but streamlined, great for piercing deeply through armour or big game hunting. The barrel taper made them stiffer for a given overall arrow weight, which probably helped with some of the crazy heavyweight bows they used. It wasn't just the Turks and English using mega bows, Chinese right up there with them in bow power. Accordingly, unless you're hunting large animals or have a problem with armoured invaders on your front lawn, arrow material is a matter for your tastes and budget.
Armin, been enjoying your Videos , Thank You 🙏🏼 ordered this @30# the short version of it. It just arrived tonight, my first time trying Thumb draw hope it's not too heavy for a starter. Local Archery shops don't have Thumb rings nore this style of bows so gonna try to make one with leather. I think on the long draws it'd be a better idea to go a little lighter. Respect 🙏🏼
what grain of arrow should I get if I want to start learning thumb draw w/ a 20lb bow? their Amazon description said arrow has to be heavier than 0.6 the draw weight...?
Hey I'm thinking of getting one for my first bow, if you don't mind me asking how's it holding up after about half a year and do you have any other suggestions for bows at or bellow this price point?
@@ArminHirmer Thanks, thought it seemed pretty decent best I can tell but I have weary little background in archery so thought it best to ask someone who knows what they are talking about
Hey Armin. Af-archery is giving me no usable information about the arrow weight. Would you suggest a certain weight for this bow with 40lbs on 28"? Or is it even possible to shoot any short and light arrows they might have on an archery field. I don't want to risk damage to the bow if I shoot with whatever is available. Thanks a lot
Hi Armin, i am planning to buy this. So the measurement for the lbs is at 28" right? If i plan to buy 50 lbs at 28", how much is the lbs by 34" or 35"?
@@manuvilks8057 depends how you shoot, thumb release no problem, three finger might be a problem. spine and weight depends on the daw weight of your bow.
@@ArminHirmer I measured and have a 28.8 in draw length. I'm probably going to start with a 25# bow. I like both, but the larger bow does seem more appealing.
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I recently acquired this bow in a 50lb draw, I picked it up a week ago, got myself a home target on Saturday, and it's a dream to shoot. Thank you for helping me find a good bow.
I gifted one To a friend on the completion of her doctorate . So in the UK there is a clinic psychologist who can be found with her AF Han shooting on Weekends .
Thank you Master for this lovely review .
My AF Archery Han bow arrived today, my first Asian thumb release bow. The build quality is amazing at this price point IMO (US $69), no "cracks or pops" when I first pulled the string back, easy to string. Using a thumb ring, I shot a few to ground with an old arrow to get a feel, felt good, solid, light. I'm impressed. I'll give it a go at the range this weekend. Very happy so far. If this goes well, I'll be getting an AF Kadesh eventually, my next is an AC Archery Traditional Mongol bow. Thanks again for your demonstration and review, Armin.
I've got the AF Kadesh. Shoots wonderful and she loves to be shot at long range. Maybe that's just me
@@Daylon91 yes I've had the kadesh for a year now, great bow. I plan to get the Alibow Keshig next. Cheers!
missed the mail man today.This is the bow I am starting out with. great videos!
Same for me, picked it up last Tuesday, finally got to shoot it on Saturday, and I absolutely love it.
Thank you for this review, convinced me to buy this bow 1 year ago and I love it, even though I have to improve my thumb release :P
Thank you for another great review I think I have now found the right bow to start my long draw thumb release journey, then in a year maybe the Simons raptor.
Next to watch it the thumb ring and release videos.
Keep up the great work
35in draw experience for that price. I'm gonna give one a try for sure!
Thanks for the review!
Always VERY interesting. One more time, thank you very much for this review, M.Hirmer.
Thank Armin for putting up this review. I made a review of an AF archery bow also, and put a link to your How to start with Thumb Release to thank you.
I bought this bow from AF Archery, it creaked a bit when at full draw so i asked AF Archery if this was normal, they immeadiaely sent me a replacement bow, really cant fault the service with this company, i'm usually a bit wary of buying from China but would definately buy from them again.
good news. sometimes they crack at the beginning... but hey they replaced it. nice. enjoy shooting
Nice looking bow
Careful Armin TH-cam will move you to TH-cam Red if you keep touching the bow like that and making those sounds! ;) Great Review of a Sweet Bow.
hahaha
Armin acts like a cat 🐈 when when he is testing bows, 😄 the way he reacted while hearing the creaking sound in the beginning of his first drawing od the bow😂😂😂
I wanted to buy one after your thorough review but it seems they only offer a FedEx shipping option to Austria for an additional whopping 120 USD which completely ruins the bargain price. Do you maybe have a workaround for this problem? I would be pleased to hear your ideas. :)
Great bow for the money. And a nice tiny necki 😉👍
My asian mongolian bow did the same thing first time I pulled it back. that’s nice looking bow.
I bought my 1st bow 1 month ago.. and the unstrung mode is very similar with this bow. The price?🤔 Only about 35 usD
thank you for this video I used this bow .
80 LOUSY DOLLARS!?GOOD GOD! Come to papa!
I am thinking about buying this bow. I ordered a xuanwu by Alibow and it broke in production so they have to make a new one.... I have no more patients to wait any longer. I want a 30 pound bow and every one else in my club uses 35 pound and up. So I have been using a 35 pounds bow a friend lend me. But it would be so nice to have a lighter bow. So maybe I can use this one till my Alibow arrives.
now that it has been 2 years, anyone who has bought this bow or alibows have any thoughts>?especially with the alibow tartar?
i bought this bow two years ago. my first bow and i still use it and love it. the whipping has had to be glued back on but for the price its a great bow. highly recommended. my 2nd bow, an alibow Kheshig is on its way:)
I love it, totally recommend, bought it 1 year and half ago, learned thumb release with it, theres is not comming back now :)
I have used the TopArchery version of the Han bow, it's basically the same as this but siyahs are a little cheaply made, no varnish and the edges were sharp enough to cut part of the string so I stopped using it because of that. But it was similarly very creaky like this bow, maybe it's just the shape of the Han bow and the whipping that makes the noise like this, kinda puts me off though.
Regarding Alibow, their Fiberglass bows are amazing, I purchased a Manchu Yarha from them and it's amazing for the price, and very flexible, no noise. I did have some gripe with the first Yarha I got because the top siyah was slightly bent. They said this couldn't have been an issue with their bowmaking because they carve the siyah after they attach it to the bow, so it must've been from continuous pressure during shipping, but they sent me another which was excellent.
The Kheshig from Yarha is one of the most amazing bows I've ever used, the wide limbs make accurate shooting SO easy, and I really loved that bow so much until about 2 weeks ago I happened to take it out just for a pull in my room, as I have been doing during lockdown, and suddenly the back delaminated in my hands as I was at about 32" and the whole resin part of the handle split away from the body, was very shocking, never experienced that with a bow. I'd only used it about 3-4 months in total, once per week. It was quite a shocking experience and I was very upset for a while, but I'm currently in contact with Alibow now who've said they have warranty on their bows, I am awaiting their verdict after sending them photos of the delamination - but honestly, the Kheshig is genuinely such a beautiful and balanced bow that I would still recommend anyone to buy it for their arsenal.
Maybe if another Kheshig split on me I'd be put off after that, but it's great enough for me to go back and get another without a doubt.
Hope that's good info for you!
Update, I bought the afarchery han bow and I am enjoying it I've only had the chance to shoot it about a 150 shots but I like it much better then the classic western style recurve bow.
ebay has it up to 100lbs so. 75usd for the bow 100usd for the arrows.
I appreciate both are older videos, but I'm looking to get my first Asiatic bow (first bow of any kind actually), and wanted to get your thoughts on this AF Han Long versus the Alibow Ghengis Khan (likely in 25lbs @ 28 inches). Any recommendations as between the two?
Nice review, this one goes on my list! Gonna make a second target though, seems to be a hazardous bow for the arrows being used :-)
Hello Armin! I saw lot of your videos and all are simply amazing! Love your reviews, I am new to archery and thinking about either this bow or Alibow tartar bow? Any suggestions from your side would be really helpful! Thanks much!
Thank you for the video- I have the exact bow with a little higher poundage. Been looking to buy some decent Manchu arrows and you mention Nikita Arrows ? I searched everywhere I can think but cannot find them.
www.sarmatarchery.com
AF Archery has a new Han bow design available for $85,. This design, long ears is still $75 but short ears 34” draw are on sale for $69 and going fast.
New Han design is now $74.
Would you call AF the younger brother to Alibow in experience and quality?
Kind of :)
Super Video .... Justin Zitate können aber gerne aus bleiben 😂
mal sehen
What do you figure the draw weight would be around 32” and further?
Many thanks Mr. Hirmer
i bought one of those and it was too heavy at 34" draw. I bought the 50lbs one and didn't realise that was measured at 28". At 34" draw my bow measure 74lbs and its crazy heavy haha
Happened to me too once hahaha enjoy shooting
@@ArminHirmer Mine came with the sharp tips chip on the end of the limb. Would it be safe to file it off and sandpaper?
Hey Armin what were the weight of arrows for 165fps ? I'm guessing 350 or 500 grain.Thank you for your great reviews
He says 500 in video
Hey guys, would you recommend this or the Qinghai from Ali bow for a beginner?
Sure
Armin sir is looking style 😅
looks kinda like a magyar bow but hey i guess eurasian composite all share some similarities. Good vid.
yes they all look similar, some have a bit longer siyahs, some other angles, but the basic design is the same
Armin Hirmer Hello Armin can u do a vid on the Qinghai horn bow from ali bow? Greeting from china.
@@麤鬻彠爨軉灪 I will get the qinghai, but I think not a hornbow, a laminated one
Nice bow
Sorry if this was already answered but where are the arrows from?
Also would the fletching on those Manchurian arrows make a big difference for this style of shooting?
Only while nocking, as the fletching will strike the bow. Rest is normal
@@ArminHirmer thanks 🎯🙏🏼
Eventually you protected your thumb! so you are not superhuman after all... ;)
some strings are quite aggressive :D
He needs to learn Ishi Style ;)
Does the longest end of the middle of the strain go to the bottom or top of the bow? USA Tennessee prepper, thank you
usually top when you mean the center serving, when you mean the overall string, then the longer one down
Thank you very much love your videos USA Tennessee prepper
Where do you get the wood arrows for the 35 inch draw length?
bamboo from Sarmat Archery o Alibow
@@ArminHirmer I ordered some bamboo Manchu arrows from Sarmat, but I cannot find non bamboo wooden manchu arrows. Traditionally my sources all say that they used poplar/birch instead of bamboo for some reason. I just wanted to do as was done because I tend to think they had a good reason for doing it.
I'll have to email alibow and ask them if they'll make some special fletching for me at least. I'm sort of new to all of this.
The very long draw Chinese bows used lots of different arrow materials, depending on time period, region and the use of the bow. Poplar and birch arrows were absolutely on the list, usually barrel tapered and quite thick. This made them heavy but streamlined, great for piercing deeply through armour or big game hunting. The barrel taper made them stiffer for a given overall arrow weight, which probably helped with some of the crazy heavyweight bows they used. It wasn't just the Turks and English using mega bows, Chinese right up there with them in bow power. Accordingly, unless you're hunting large animals or have a problem with armoured invaders on your front lawn, arrow material is a matter for your tastes and budget.
Armin, been enjoying your Videos , Thank You 🙏🏼 ordered this @30# the short version of it. It just arrived tonight, my first time trying Thumb draw hope it's not too heavy for a starter. Local Archery shops don't have Thumb rings nore this style of bows so gonna try to make one with leather. I think on the long draws it'd be a better idea to go a little lighter. Respect 🙏🏼
what grain of arrow should I get if I want to start learning thumb draw w/ a 20lb bow? their Amazon description said arrow has to be heavier than 0.6 the draw weight...?
Armin, thanks for the review! I found AF bows on Amazon today and was debating the 70 Han bow, and here's your review of the long Han!
would be 185grn, guess no chance to get that light weight arrows. take some light carbons - will still be 300grn
What about Aluminium arrows (they're heavier) on thumb draws?
@@johnnyj.817 I don#t like them, but many horsearchers use them
What arrows are those that you split?
Just thought I would put out this question in hope of some one with some knowledge of this subject, would you be able to long draw with glasses on.
Turn your head and look over your shoulder and lean forward. Should work
Hey I'm thinking of getting one for my first bow, if you don't mind me asking how's it holding up after about half a year and do you have any other suggestions for bows at or bellow this price point?
Hi. I did not shoot the bow very often, but it still works perfectly. for the price point it will be hard to find something cheaper or better
@@ArminHirmer Thanks, thought it seemed pretty decent best I can tell but I have weary little background in archery so thought it best to ask someone who knows what they are talking about
Hey Armin. Af-archery is giving me no usable information about the arrow weight. Would you suggest a certain weight for this bow with 40lbs on 28"? Or is it even possible to shoot any short and light arrows they might have on an archery field. I don't want to risk damage to the bow if I shoot with whatever is available.
Thanks a lot
go with 10gpp, so roughly 400grain
@@ArminHirmer thank you
Hi Armin, i am planning to buy this. So the measurement for the lbs is at 28" right? If i plan to buy 50 lbs at 28", how much is the lbs by 34" or 35"?
Hi. Do they offer it in that # would be fore sure 65# or a bit more
How does it compare with Alibow's manchu yarha?
when I get my hands on one again I will do a comparison
Very nice. But will it be of any help in case of a Zombie Apocalypse?
Watch Martin Sporri Combat Archery Vids.
i gotta ask do you always have the arrow a lil high on the draw? does it raise the arrow off the hand if you do that?
You avoid getting scratches from the feathers
Where can i buy this bow? AF Archery website doesn't offer to sell this
www.ebay.com/itm/AF-New-Chinese-Traditional-Handmade-Fiberglass-Bow-20-50lbs-Han-Bow-Recurve-bow/152874744621?hash=item23980b7b2d:m:mDI1ye0P5qYpkT8ANbcrz2Q&var=452627523500
@@ArminHirmer Amazing, thank you very much.
amazon has them too
Please Review by AJ ARCHERY or HERUTO the flexy Turkhis Bending BOW from Indonesia
When someone will send me one, I will
Nahh.. bowyer andalan indonesia.. 😂
Its 120 now 🙃
Thirteenth bow added to the list...
Which arrows are best for this bow? I mean stiffnes
Is it true, that when i shoot from such a bow archer paradox will take place? If yes, then I need less stiff arrows.
(Sory for my English)
@@manuvilks8057 depends how you shoot, thumb release no problem, three finger might be a problem. spine and weight depends on the daw weight of your bow.
@@ArminHirmer for example, 30# draw weight
Would you recommend this or the tatar from alibow for a beginner? Thanks for the review!
both great bows for beginning, depends on your draw length you think you will have. tatar draws a little shorter but is fully enough
@@ArminHirmer I measured and have a 28.8 in draw length. I'm probably going to start with a 25# bow. I like both, but the larger bow does seem more appealing.
I loved this bow when I had one but sadly....it was stolen from me and all I have left of it is its string.
That's bad
How many lbs does that bow draw?
35 at 28
I just bought the same one for 50CAD......
It is really nice for a beginner to get knowing archery by using it.
Fransoir Benoit how??
Fransoir Benoit how is the longevity
The bow limb is glued to the siyah, would it be any concern that it possibly breaks?
yes glued and then twine wrapped around, vey common technique and it works
Jleebb
Hey you gotta do some sort of trickshooting episodes like lars andersen, I want to see your skill with the bow, not some boring reviews!
then watch Lars Anderson videos, not mine - as simple as that
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you!
Why don't you do any?
Simon- Why don't you do a video standing on your head juggling penguins? I'd like to see that- not some boring comments ;p
@@hammerstonestudio3436 My comment wasn't meant as an insult, sorry if it came across as one ;)