Would You Pay $1,288 For A Jig Saw?
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Festool: "We produce very pricey tools that make you question your sanity for buying them."
Mafell: "Hold my champagne..."
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@agalleyne ... eh for me as German tradesmen I would say Festool is for cabinet makers and Mafell is for carpenter ... and yes it’s expensive ... very expensive overseas .. but that’s life and life suckers
@@wolfgangselle4307 you right.. I had festool saws for years they always struggled with the more heavier timber .The maffell just ripped through it ..had my maffell saw now for 12 years and still going strong .had to put a nz plug on it ..good to see they them now here
Wolfgang Selle for standard cabinet makers yes, however for those of us that do one of a kind completely custom interiors maffell is more our style 😉
I'd definitely watch a weekly tool talk show called, "The Scott & Gaston Hour of Power" - can you make that happen, Scott? Thanks!
Excellent idea! I’d definitely watch!
An hour might be a bit of a stretch but I can’t think of a better rhyme, so I guess it’ll have to be. At least the ad revenue would be worth it!
But Gaston only comes a couple months in the year
@@caolankilpatrick6847 surely Scott Brown Carpentry could have an "On the Road" segment a couple of times a year and visit other folks in other parts of NZ, including the Incredible Gaston!?!
@@timothygleeson4098 not how his real job works usually not enough time to go around north island just to look at toolz
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Hi Scott, I am really glad you decided to do an entire video on Mafell with Gaston, I have heard a lot of people saying how good their tracksaw is but this is the first time I have seen it’s benefits so clearly demonstrated 👍
I sell tools for a living and Gaston is the man, what a legend. Inspirational guy! He’s the type of guy everyone selling tools needs to be like.
I’m listening to Scotty as I renovate my bathroom. I’m framing a hidden cistern. I’ve got no idea what I’m doing, but he makes me feel like a pro.
👍 from Melbourne.
I'm an electronics tech by trade and I feel ya. I'm ready to go out and build something. In fact I did last weekend.
The Mafell Erika is one of best portable table saws ! I'm a cabinet maker with 18 year's experience and have worked with many other brands but no one was as good as the Mafell Erika.
Great video Scott!
Greetings from Germany🙋♂️
The Erika truly is an amazing saw.
After my 1st girlfriend I promised myself id never go near another Erika...
The Mafell Erika, the best portable saw is like a Swiss Knife.
18 years experience . your still an improver👍
Scott... You and Gaston are fab. Love tool time. I've now caught up on all your videos. Feel like I'm through two years of my apprenticeship now. My wife loved the deck that you did at the front of the house. Can't remember the suburb. Lovely craftsmanship.
Scott again I paused my Netflix to watch your episode. :) wish Scott Brown episodes are available in bunch and much longer episodes.. Bless you mate. Love from India.
Give Netflix a call and see
I do like that track saw. This channel convinced me to use the track-saw, and I use it all the time now. I like the blade change style on it. Makes things very convenient when you do the maintenance and servicing of a machine quick and easy so you can get back to doing the job.
Hi Scott. If you are thinking of getting the Mafell - in particular because of the scoring cut - have a watch of Peter Millard's video (400 Festool v Mafell track saws) where he shows that the full depth cut is slightly offset from the scoring cut leading to a gap when joining two pieces at right angles.
I bought the festool ts55 1st gen , my work mates laughted at me for paying
400 uk for a track saw . Seven years
Later I sold it on an auction site for 270 uk and bought the 2nd gen .
They are not laughing now. Once you start on quality tool they pay for themselves imho.
Two weeks after your purchase you've forgotten about the money.
Exactly. Buy once, cry once. :)
Yes couldn’t agree more
I guess every body who is working in trades knows it but want not admit it ... it’s hard to say or explain to someone why you need tool for so much $$$ ... but after you bought it and used it for many many years then u know it and all the other guys knows it too
@@vadim3976 It's only a number.
Likewise. They start by ridiculing you, but eventually they start copying you
Gaston is so pleasant to listen to, some lovely tools. Great video.
Well played dude ur great to watch I’m 18 and made my self a full fledged workshop and great to see what other people do !!!
Great channel Scott, Tony, 37 year carpenter, 23 year General Contractor from California.
Answer: Nope 😂😂
Good video though, cool seeing it in action!
Well not exactly in action...
I have the KSS300 plus the F rails and I love it-- it's my favorite tool.
I can’t currently can’t afford the mafell p1cc (I have a big mortgage and 3 kids and a wife to provide for) but as a carpenter that owns a few items from mafell (mt 55 and kss 60) has had the privilege of using the p1cc please let me offer this advice..... if you can afford to buy mafell tools do so you will not regret it. The p1cc is not a jigsaw it’s the reinvention of the jigsaw it does things that other jigsaws simply can not do. I can’t speak for every tool they make as I have not used them all but the mafell tools that I have used feel like something other than a tool, they feel like machinery that is used in big factory’s to manufacture the timber and products we use daily that costs thousands and thousands not like the tools we use daily. Simply put the tools mafell produce are expensive because when you use them they feel like you can’t afford them because every detail has been considered and they do the job they were intended for that much better than any other tool.
Carl Postins. Well written Carl. We cannot get mafel here in Australia. Although can import from USA. Metabo will bring out a mafel style plunge saw which I will be interested in seeing. I consider buying the mafel cordless plunge saw. The jigsaw perhaps could have a cordless version. Also if it had all the accessories it will be worth it. If you could achieve a perfection then workership will be at a premium level.
The difference in price between say mafel and festool. Both rather pricey. You would put your mind to it and buy the machine on laybuy.
I'm just so confused on why someone would buy this jigsaw vs a similar tracksaw. If you're always doing curved cuts (reason for jigsaw) then you dont need all the accessories. If youre doing straightlines, this jigsaw cannot cut anywhere as nice as a circular blade.
@@ron1martens it's so damn annoying watching videos from yanks and such too only find out we can't get anything remotely close in aus and I can't even currently make the bunnings staff nervous by browsing around trying to find the best stuff either
NICE TRY GASTON!
drumboarder1 try the tool shops. I would give Bunnings a miss. Their quality tools are no different in price to specialist tool shops. Some tools we don't get in Australia or even tools available in Europe.
Thank you very much for putting the Canadian price Eh!!!! love your videos, have been watching for awhile. You have helped keep me sane during the crazy last year keep them coming.
That's great. Cool to see these top end tools in action. Still extremely happy with my cordless Makita tracky but hey. That Mafell has some great features. 👍
To the people saying the jigsaw isn't worth it: if you do any amount of custom circular cuts in thick sheet materials, it'll make back the cost of the saw in a few days of work. Mine paid for itself in 2-3 days. The special blades seem expensive but then you get one and put it through ~600m of 20mm plywood cutting circles and it just keeps going, all the cuts are at 90 degrees with little to no blade deflection.
More Gaston!!!! Yes please second channell? or special playlist? We all want more Gaston! We love you to scott but you understand cause we all know you love gaston too!
I've had their biscuit jointer for over 20 years and it's superb, bought the jigsaw and the tilting base but was afraid to use it as an everyday tool because of what it cost! Sold it on and went back to Bosch with Festool blades. The price of the double-thickness special straight cutting blades is madness too. Lovely, well engineered tool though...
I bought a festool jig saw over 15 years ago, still using and enjoying the quality never stopped spending a few extra dollars to save in the long run on quality tools.
I feel it all depends on the type of work you do, For what kinda money you want to spend. As a Contractor I do own some Festool produces. But most of what i use is my cordless Bosch tools. I would never spend 1500 or 2000 on one tool ever, knowing i could purchase 2 or 3 items at a lower cost and get the same quality. It's all about skill. Thank you so much for showing us all those tools, in the US there is so much to chose from.
Worth evey penny. Had a play with out a bit back and it was a joy to use
Here's a recent review of this Jigsaw:th-cam.com/video/Whfdk1trCr0/w-d-xo.html
I just bought a jigsaw for $25... has a thousand pieces!
I never thought I'd find tools MORE expensive than festool!
Mafell is the gold standard for track saws in Germany. Every carpenter has one. The prices are a lot lower in Germany though.
Much better quality thank chitnzy festool.
mrjt Maffel is the brand for rough carpentry in the jobsite while Festool is mostly used by furniture/cabinet makers
Pianova that is not true
Mark Roper haha bro I‘m working in this business
Great tools i can recommend the portable track saw kit ..once you get over the price . Great work keep it up.
Couple guys I work with have recently bought the mafell cordless kss cost around £1200. But very good for rafters and studwork. Worth a look 👍🏻
I have the cordless mafell track saw with Metabo 8amp batteries absolutely love it, great precision and power. Got it shipped in from Timberwolf tools in the US
Great video Scott, Mafell tools are brilliant ......dont have any myself ,id say the track saw would be fantastic for doing those plywood ceiling jobs
Hey Scott do you do many kitchens because would love to see some videos of them.. Absolutely love the channel been watching every vid for over a year keep it up man love it
He already talked about this. In NZ they typically use kitchen installers, that does nothing else but install kitchens.
@@steenfraosterbro3268 ah okay thanks
Scott, tu vídeos con Gastón son lo más. Imposible para nosotros pagar esa suma por cualquiera de las sierras. Saludos Barilochenses
The small circ saw, the kss 40 with the short track attached would be perfect for you if it wasn't so expensive. Would save you setting up a mitre saw quite often. Perfect for decking and small framing jobs. Lots of power too.
It surprises me to see that saw not more often in any videos. As a German carpenter you are used to Mafell Tools and prices. But especially the KSS40 is worth every cent. If your Tool Guy comes around he should show you the ability to do plunge cuts with any mafell circ saw. If you know that feature you can't go back to any other brand.
Loving the KSS40 since day one. And yes, it is perfect for decking and small framing jobs.
@@robertrada4783 I've had mine(Kss40) for about 2 years and absolutely love it!!!!Such a great little saw.Just wish it could cuttro 45mm depth.
Love the vids, from ireland bro. Keep it up 👍
got the mafell track saw, the dust extraction is so good! had to cut a bunch of sheet material in a customers bedroom cos of rain, no dust anywhere
about £650 with tracks in the UK
Got to use this jigsaw in my last job, definitely a fantastic piece of kit, really made the cuts buttery smooth.. but that price 🥝👄🥝
I tryed the maffel saw for a few weeks .. and still bought a festool again ( about +/- ) 600 euro with 2 tracks i payed ) .. still happy with it . after 5 years ..
I bought the Duo Doweler over the Domino, it was cheaper, and came with all the accessories, not to mention dowell's are a fraction of the price of the Dominoes. The machine is fantastic, simple and accurate to use, with the 12mm dowells you can use for light construction, and with 5mm drill shelf pins in cabinets if you need to(although I normally use a router on a drilled rail). With all the extra parts you need for the Domino to do the same was almost $500 more!
They make some amazing circular saws and planers as well. We had a 7 inch and 12 inch one at the yard i worked in back in the day. They make a saw now that will cut over 5 inches!
Wow. I just bought the track saw for £600 in the UK with the bag, rails and clamps included. It was only a bit more than the Festool and not a lot more than other brands alike Dewalt, Makita etc. I wonder how much shipping to NZ costs.
The Bosch GKT 55 is made by Mafell, as a cheaper alternative to the Mafell MT55cc. The Bosch tracks are also made by Mafell.
do you have any info /opinion on bosch GKS 85 G
tuva600 Mafell = Bosch and Hilti = Bosch. Yeah, right those legends... :)
No, Bosch owned Mafell. Mafell is the better line
@@concordiameterik What gives you that idea? As far as I can tell, Mafell has always been an independent company.
@@vadim3976 I’m sure you have some data to back that up.
Because, for all I can tell, both Hilti and Mafell are independent companies with little or no ties to Bosch…
I hope you read this. I bought a Bosch track saw a year ago, and I'm behind on your videos. I read and head form reviews that the Bosh track saw was made my Mafell but coloured and branded Bosch. I'm in Canada and from the clip of the track I can say it's identical to the Bosch tracks I own... exactly the same but with blue rubber, and the joining of tracks sounds the same too. I saw the zipper bag for the tracks leaning up and the only difference I see from mine is mine says Bosch. I LOVE my Bosch track saw. My only regret is not buying it sooner.
I got the battery mafell track saw and it’s by far a great bit of kit
Well done, mate!
Just as a notice: Every Bosch track addendum is also usable with the Mafell track.
I am always flabbergasted how expensiv german stuff is abroad. For that money I would always buy somewhat locally. I own a Festool tracksaw for the only reason that it was the cheapest saw I could get that was in the DeWalt, Mafell, Bosch, Makita range... Weird.
Regards,
Etna.
Love the small Bosch 18 volt circular saw, fits on a festool track👍
Maffell eats all of them
Festool saws are rubbish and under powered .. get a maffell .ripper saw
rockfosg :
Nice to know, thank you for the heads up.
is mafell expensive in germany? if not, why is it expensive abroad?
that guy reminds me of an oldschool vacuum seller, nothing special but he makes it feel special. but that price and no battery? wow..
Old school vacuum seller would for sure vacuum up some dirt...this guy won't even make a cut!
Gaston is a top bloke sorted me out with a Wiha torque screwdriver set. Great price and advice.
I bought the Mafell track saw inc rails for £589 here in the UK. I use it mostly for cutting 8' x 4' Calcium silicate boards when designing fire surrounds for inset wood burning stoves. I can't recommend it highly enough. You would not be disappointed although it seems expensive over there.. Shall I send one from the UK? ha ha
I'm lucky to own the jigsaw and just want to add that you missed the second great feature of the special blades. The V shape allows to nearly turn the saw on the spot. It's just fantastic to cut curves with this.
Here in Germany the price is around 450€ incl VAT. So still a lot for a jigsaw but just a little more than the festool, but still about double than makita. Same relation for the track saw i would say.
Fantastic videos by the way.
Yes I was waiting for that, wondering how it performs on tight turns
Thanks for sharing. I have a hard time believing I need a jigsaw that rides a track. The circle tool looks brilliant.
Can you share why I would need a jigsaw that rides a track with us? Favorite uses, is adding track compatibility going too far? Again, thanks.
Next Generation blades are coming to us peasants soon, boys!!! Shoot, Mafell should just make them for other jigsaws if they don't already.
How much do the mafell jigsaw blades cost. Im considering of a modification if its reasonable
@@tooladdict1748 The Mafell jigsaw also has 900W for driving that thick blade, and no roller guide for less friction, only top fixture but one that can give orbital motion, so this jigsaw is a diferent concept, not just a modified clamp...
@@zackfishle1009 I have used the saw with the rail cutting 40 mm oak worktop. The result is absolutely straight and 90 degrees. I used to have a Metabo, but the Maffel can't be compared to the Metabo. Two different classes.
Ow tool time. If I had them tools in the back of my van here in the uk 🇬🇧 I think I’d have to hire a security guard, plus my dewalts would get jealous
Cameron has two of each already I guess.😂
Dan :
Priceless Dan!
aahh funny
Mike Farrington fans know what went though my mind when Gaston brought out the duo doweler,
Edit: those who don’t, check out Mike Farrington great channel.
Could you tell us right here, right now?
Mel Galjour he just has a humorous way of saying duo doweler that’s all
Is it up there with how many times Matt Estlea says Domino per episode when dowling??? 😂
Hi 👋, I am new to your work shop, I am retired A specialist joiner/cabinet maker, I own the same jigsaw great bit of kit highly recommended and I have a lot of their products as well door lock mortising machine, MAFELL router LO65 , DDF 40 . Chainsaw mortising machine.
The best bit of kit on the market, MAFELL. PHIL FROM THE MOULIN FRANCE
Love the videos, I discovered you while at home following my gooveners stay at home orders.. I’m totally jealous of your strong leadership in NZ.. Please keep up the strong work!
I have a Bosch blue jigsaw which I love. But with the loving comes also the excepting of it's flaws. Which is bending, mostly when cutting circles. And that's why I use my router for circles. The Bosch blue I found very ergonomic and light enough to work overhead when doing carpentry in the work for instance on attics and such. My next will be a Festool or Mafell. But not pro anymore so it would be for the extra fun factor in working with machines now and then.
I have the 18v battery version of the track saw. It was a larger cost but a great investment. The dust collection is excellent even with just the supplied dust bag. I’m still getting used to using it. Although I have previously used DeWalt and festool track saws, however I prefer the Mafell. If I was buying again and only if the Mafell wasn’t in my budget, I’d go for the corded Makita track saw based on reviews and colleagues opinions. I use the Festool Midi Vac so a corded track saw is also suitable for me. The key to all of these saws (or any saw) in my opinion is to use top quality new sharp saw blades.
I love my mafell track saw and jigsaw I would never look back!! Just got to finish paying them of tho!!!
I doubt those tools give you a 3 times better cuts than a makita or dewalt equivalent.
Thanks Gaston, great tip: make a scribe cut, then cut the board reducing chips.☕
You were drooling Scott :)
Hi i have been a big fesstool user for the past 15 years but i have owned the maffell jigsaw for about 7 years and i have to say this is the best jigsaw on the market i cut regular 40ml worktops with a true 90 degre cut with the lamenate face down and i have complete trust in the blade to never wander even around the most tightest corners possible i would not swap this jigsaw for any jigsaw i actually own a fesstool jigsaw battery which i use for all my rough cuts
I can see Gaston turning up one day in a UPS style van with room for a walk in show room of power tools😀🇬🇧
He has been talking about geting a van, to show more and to get out of the rain when he’s out and about.
Snap-on truck.. lol
Mercedes Benz sprinter van, high top.
Tools on the inside, a roll out awning, to cover the fold out work table, on the outside.
I’d like to see hard wood flooring, in a herringbone pattern.
The cabinetry made from different wood species, using different joinery techniques, that represent different tool manufacturers.
Just an idea.
Keep up the great work!
Cheers!
Steven B I know his tools are expensive but that would cost an arm and a leg. Van with an awning would be good. See what happens in a few months, hopefully there’s still work about for builders
Love a good Gaston vid.
Always of interest SBC.😎
the Mafell's are very expensive - but they are next level tools, absolute high end!!!
#TLock containers are manufactured by Tanos, a subsidiary of TTS Tooltechnic Systems. Other subsidiaries are Sawstop, Festool, Protool, Cleantec and more. Am not clear about Shaper. Many other companies use the containers, for examples Mafell, Spax and Deros. Even some of the older Makita power tools were shipped in T-Lock compatible containers
Awesome!! Loved that 👍🏻
Love your content
The circlejig for the jigsaw is nice and handy, all the other crap is like 'why not just use the tracksaw?'. Really nice tool, but jeeez the pricing....
If you think the jigsaw is expensive look at their Erika table saw or their big timberframing tools. These saws are cheap by comparison.
The jigsaw can also cut much thicker slabs of wood than any tracksaw.
@@seanfyodorovich5230 Also, the blade is generally thinner than circ blades, so less wasted material.
But much slower.
@@woodworkerroyer8497 In the case of the showcased tool in the video, I feel it is about the same thickness as the typical tracksaw blade shown in the video.
That brings a whole new level of carpentry thank you but no thank you if you had Monday the spend yes but I ain't got no money it's been like that my dad said the same thing about dream ending in English they said he dreamed in English that means he knew what English as a second language I can appreciate what he went through to do business this is for both of you
🍻🍺🍻🍺
I got the mafell tracksaw love it. People always complain about cost.. But they buy a new car for 30k and it drops down 2/3k in the first year. I call that waste of money cars ain’t making your money only costing a lot.
I never crappy tools... Makita for the all round work ( good quality money wise ) dewalt for their saws, festool for the system and accuracy and mafell for the big work.
Yes I did. Probably not so expensive in the uk. I was fed up with cheap jigsaw and the festool carvex I had was pants.
I brought the mafel and it’s done a lot of work since including cutting a hole in 10mm steel plate. Seriously tough tool. It’s £400 in U.K.
The Mafell (& Bosch) tracks are brilliant - they join pretty much seamlessly, so you don't need to lug a 3m track around with you as well as a 1.5. I believe Mafell manufacture the Bosch GTK55, which is quite a bit cheaper, but remarkably similar (missing some of the finer features).
Can somebody please explain the logic behind attaching a jigsaw to a track like a track saw?
If you're looking to make a very straight cut, a jigsaw would be far from my first choice
I usually only use a jigsaw for freehand non straight cuts
I've got the Bosch track saw, it's actually largely modeled on the Mafell, the tracks are the same , I've got the 18v Bosch circular saw too, that fits on to the Bosch and festool tracks. Especially handy if you want to cut up some sheets at the timber yard to get them in the van, which I have done a few times.
Can't really see the point in a jigsaw on a track, if you want a straight cut, then use the track saw. The prices for the Mafell stuff are ridiculous, and you don't even get the tracks with the track saw
I have that tracksaw too.. it is amazing, The tracks are so much better than festool. These link together straight without hassle
I have all festool gear and a kit of dewalt and I have looked at the maffell for a while but that money is madness.
Gaston's experience of learning English is very similar to mine of learning French. It took me a few phases, then it clicked properly at 3 months of living there...that was after about 6 years of school lessons.
My experience of learning my 3rd language - Swedish - was very different though
I have been using festo and Mafell for 30 years. There are two problems, it is expensive and once you use them you don’t want to use anything else . The Mafell flexi track is out of this world
alot of things on the Mafell track and tracksaw is exactly the same as on my 10 year old Bosch saw! Grate review (Y)
Because mafell stole a lot of their designs from other manufacturers.
Saw Gaston in his Ute the other week going over the Harbour Bridge.... must be doing his North Island run.
WHAT! The prices are way over. I'm in the UK and bought the track saw with the accessories (2 x 1.6m tracks, 2 x clamps, track connector and a carry bag for it all) for £550.00. Screwfix have it as a full kit for £600, however they were giving their trade account holders 10% discount all though May so it made it £550. Beautiful bit of kit.
So many middle-men wanting their cut by the time it reaches here. And in a population of only 5 million people quantities of scale don't bring those cuts down. The cost of construction and building here, for the end customer has become total insanity.
I just bought my first Mafell about four weeks ago. In the USA, when you say "Mafell," except for the rare cognoscenti, lot of folks will say, "Huh? What's Mafell?" I had been an OCD Festool fan-type until I tested the Mafell P1cc jigsaw. -- Oh, MY!!! Love at first fondle! Ok, it blew my budget for the next 6 months, but ah, do I love the way it cuts and its barrel grip, especially for inverted coping. I don't have to worry about blade deflection. And the blade can cut tight curves when I want, and dead straight and plumb when I want it to be. Even cutting rafter tails and birdmouths becomes a veritable joy and Po'C (piece of cake). My only real grumble is that Mafell sticks premium prices on their stuff -- Festool pricing on steroids. My piggy bank will take quite a while before it recovers from that hit, but every time I use the Mafell jigsaw, I'm so happy I have it.
Never had a problem getting my $60 joiner lining up the pieces perfectly.
In Germany the P1 cc is at the moment on special for 462.84 Euro (=800NZD) and you get a free T-Shirt ;-) and the MT55 comes with a 160 rail for 578.84 Euro, just shy of 1,000NZD, again with the T-shirt.
When my Festool TS55 gives up, I'll be replacing it with the Mafell, as for the jigsaw, I don't use it that much and without it being corded I wouldn't want more leads trailing about site.
the ts can cut closer to the edge and it has the handle.... too bad mafell doesnt have that.
Hi Scott I have both the jigsaw and track saw , trust me it’s worth every penny 👌 buy one 😜
I own the Bosch track saw which is technically the mafell. Without a doubt a beautiful saw. Some of the best money I’ve ever spent on a tool
Really. Interesting!
Love the vids Scott, just like to say the literal currency exchanges you post are a little off as we obviously don't have the same market/shipping fees. I bought the Mafell track saw as a set with the 2 tracks and clamps for £600 inc vat this summer, half what the video would suggest.
That jigsaw is £409. In the Uk. I have the festool carvex which is very good also but don’t use my festool rail saw now I have the mafell. It is way better then the festool. Way better. £600. 2 rails, 2 clamps saw and rail bag.
so 3 hours for chisel sharpening and prob at least 1hr for this one, how long does Gaston spend with you when he comes for a visit, hahaha
And no demo with one single toool .. how disspointing ..customers who can try the tool ..will more likely buy the tool :p
@@kittsdiy Gaston would probably have to purchase to tool as the salesman. I've seen it with a cabinet salesman. He has a couple of kitchens worth of high grade cabinets in his showroom he purchased to show potential clients. I would love to hear Scott's opinion on the fancy red jigsaw.
@@kittsdiy In the video Gaston stated the tools were not his and too much for him to spend on demo units.
@@zackfishle1009 you don't have to purchase the products you're selling as a salesman. And as for kitchens, you don't purchase those either. They're built-in to the show room. The products come from the suppliers.
I would buy that jigsaw for that price. I think that's a fair price for excellent tool. Way back I wanted to buy a Mafell track saw but couldn't get one, so the next option was Bosch but it was a 6 week wait so I got the Makita which I'm happy with.
Hello from France! I have an old Mafell KSS400 and it's really the best tracksaw i used. I've got the router LO65EC too. It's really powerfull for carpentry and the Arunda kit for Dovetails. Look them if you don't know, it's magic! By the way: we don't really use jigsaw in Europe :-)
I'm in NZ and we have been brought up with the more" she'll be right " attitude and we can make it happen with whatever tools at hand. But as times gone on and I've exhausted all the main tool brands these are now my considered options. A different way to build , new technique. The price is a shock because of what were used too, just suck it up, respect the quality engineering, move up a gear. The kss 50 first for me, I'll move onto all the battery gear. Thanks Scott I think you also have an eye for detail.
All of the Mafell tools are awesome. BTW - the USD pricing is a little lower for each one right now than what you calculated from the US distributor.
Just an FYI, here in the states, Timberwolf (Mafell’s USA distributor) got permission to bring prices down on a few popular items as a promotion during the summer of 2019. Mafell noticed how many units they started shipping and, accordingly, those prices haven’t gone back up since. The MT55cc is currently equivalently priced (or possibly cheaper) than the Festool and Bosch tracksaws at $599. The cordless version (bare tool) is around the same at $615. The duo doweller (newest version) is just a dollar shy of a grand. The P1cc is about $500 and the KSS 40 kit (batteries, charger and additional flexi rail) is about $900. Full disclosure: I’m a Timberwolf customer and they are a local business so I do have a slight vested interest in promoting them.
Wow so expensive over there, we get the same one straight from germany for just over 500 euro's, the 2 plates and guide.
You lucky sumbitch.. In aus everything costs an assload
I am missing the information of why Mafell got away with the guide wheel. In their research, Mafeel concluded that the blade was heated up by saw blade friction on guide wheel. This is due to mismatch between the wheel and the blade. When you push on the saw, there are a good amount of heat being produced, and the hot saw blade prevents a 90 degree cut. Another advantage of using a cam (mafell patent) to produce the pendulum movement (instead of the wheel) is that the pendulum movement doesn't start before you push the saw blade into the wood. No more "jumping" jigsaw or ruined cuts.
I dont know if anyone else allrdy mentioned it, but the bosch tracks are exactly the same as the mafell only way cheaper. Most mafell prodcuts you see here in germany are the huge circular saws with up to 410mm diameter sawblades and other verry specific carpentry tools like huge handbandsaws and chan mortisers.
On the sit i work on air tools r getting more common like palm nailers ,nail guns