Hollow chisel mortiser experiments
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Experimeting with building a hollow chisel mortiser out of wood.
In the end, I realized that building it right would cost about as much as buying a cheap one, so it doens't really make sense to build one.
Matthias is a genius wood worker trust me..
He did a lot of research and he dealt with any tools what he had with him.. He always present a realistic thing 👍👍
I built Matthias's slot morticer and his tenon jig. These are great tools! Very repeatable and precise results.
for this one, it doesn't make sense. More info at the URL at the end of the video.
I just like your conclusions about every time I watch your work, thanks for your advice.
It's fun to watch these old videos sometimes. You've come a long way!
You thought this was old 5 years ago? :D
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@@Snaffer01 Man, I wish I was Matthias' neighbour growing up as a kid. He'd be like that awesome friendly engineer/mad scientist trope in tv shows/movies. Could you imagine being a kid and just hanging out in his garage after school and helping out with his projects and experiments; he gets a pair of willing and eager hands to do things like hold things and bringing him wood and you get to be part of his inventive process. Nowadays, you can't really have that because any time a kid hangs out with an older adult, people will look at you funny like some sort of sexual indecency is going on.
@@covariance5446 weh, thats sad facts
Be me, in 2020, quarantined and watching vintage Mathias Wandel vids.
Me too haha
Or me in 2021!
I ordered a drill press morticer from Northern Tool for $50 sent to my carport. After the purchase all I read was how crappy and what junk they are. So after setting 6 or more months in the box I put it on and tested. First thing i forgot to tighten the chisel holder to drill press spindle. After that I was amazed at how well it morticed 1\2" slots in well seasoned ash for table legs. The supplied fence and work hold down SUX rear tit on a sow hog. After looking at it in the box i knew the fence would need rebuild. But I'm really impressed with the moving parts of the kit and after every bashing forum about them. One thing is I run this drill press at its slowest speed from drilling thick metal before converting it into a mortiser. Personally I think running the drill slower is key. The other videos show them turning way too fast causing heat and friction issues.
Nice job. Even though it appears to be not worthwhile to build a production-capable hollow-chisel mortiser, we appreciate you building a prototype for experimentation. It was very interesting.
You're such a clever guy! I love your videos since years. By the way i really really really appreciate you're not going to fill your vids with commercials. You're a real woodpecker. Go on. Thanks a lot
Genius woodpecker ✌😎
Always a pleasure to find an old video of yours :)
This video really helped me a lot. I almost bought a bunch of these.
I'll buy router bits instead.
Thank you very much.
Considered the small amount of material left in the mortise, giving a quick touch up with a hand chisel does nt seems too much of a hassle, and if i need a through-hole mortise it would came up much better, even perfect
I suppose. The problem is, a hand drill that has the chuck rigidly enough mounted to be suitable is quite expensive, and it's cheaper to buy a cheap drill press.
Having tried hollow chisel mortising with a cheap drill, I have to say there's too much flex to them... probably to Matthias's rid, too.
A plug in dimmer would not provide regulated speed, just like the drill doesn't either. So the plug in dimmer wouldn't help at all.
@Matthiaswandel I agree - it would not be regulated, nor would it have any sort of speed sensor; it would just slow down the motor in much the same way that a Variac auto-transformer would.
At one time - probably some 40-50 years ago - one could buy an epicyclic gearbox for electric hand drills to slow down the speed for (rotary only) drilling into masonry. I have not seen such devices for years, though.
Excellent work! 👏
Those mortise chisel really can cut deep mortise.
After watching this and other video I decided to use my router instead.
Yes, it would NOT cut as deep as yours.
They don't do a bad job at all . With a cast iron Chisel Mortiser Machine as you finish the plunge you turn the wheel and that shifts the work so the drill bit cleans the bottom . Before your finished you also re plunge the chisel and the left and right end and sweep inwards . The chisel breaks the left over bits off . It wont be as clean as a slot mortise bottom but its a lot cleaner than these shown where its just been plunged.
I've seen you on other videos. You are one hell of an inventor. Good work.
I really enjoy watching your videos keep up the great work
I bought a Delta mortiser a few years ago and I just don't really use it enough to justify having it now. I used it on one big job but I don't think I have ever used it since.
You make some very nice woodworking things.
About the only good thing Matt says on his website about inexpensive hollow chisel mortisers is that if you're a beginning woodworker and still learning the craft, hollow chisel mortising is the fast track to cutting mortises until you either have the skill to build a better mortising machine yourself, or have the money to buy one.
Slot morticer ok for furniture but hollow chisel and chain morticers come into there own on big deep mortices like for doors and gates. A lot of my mortices are through ones but it takes no time or effort to clean a stop mortice or a haunch with a sharp chisel. Slot morticers are good but can also limit what you can do as can't be haunched and will always need a round ended tenon or ends chopping out square with chisel by hand. Biggest fact of life is there's no 100% easy answer to mortice and tenon cutting but there's no stronger joint.
@earlye The main reason why he decided to experiment with hollow-chisel mortising was just to try it for himself and see if his own biases against it were well-founded or not, and also I'm guessing discover why his dad never used a hollow chisel mortising kit after first trying it when he bought it years ago. Matt says on his website the brackets and hollow chisels for this came from that kit, his dad letting him have it just to get rid of it I'm sure.
tks for the info , regarding which works better
have you done a cut-away of one of the mortise joints made by your pantorouter.. that kept beside this hollow chisel would have given a better idea of the finished output..
Nice video by the way.. :D
Like the long handle for leverage. I am over 50 now and don't have the strength i had 20 years ago. i want to make one of these but didn't want to mess up a good drill press. would there be an advantage to using a cheaper hammer drill with a cut out that allows one to adjust the drill?
well said oldschoolskill and like yourself i find that I can't wait to see the next video. So keep up the good work matthais
I wonder if this type of mortising could be OK to use with soft woods, and that extra debris at the bottom could be to a good use packing and tightening things up for a better grip, like tiny shims, but it's only me, I guess that wont do with harder materials. Can it work Mr. Wandel? I don't want to look that slopy either hehe!! Thanks for sharing.
It's okay with any wood. Unless you're not gluing the joint, the majority of it's strength and holding power comes from the cross grain contact of the tenon in the mortise. Nor will it look sloppy because you won't see it once the joint is put together.
Now is it optimal? No. I'm just saying that it will work, and likely won't be the biggest issue weakening what you build.
Great experiment Matthias
Matthias,
Could you use this same concept with a rack and pinion set of gears to build a cheap drill press? This would be cost effective for me because i already own a good quality hand drill.
Thanks
I was quite confused as to why you would bother doing this, given the high-quality rounded mortises you've been making with the panto-router. It would be nice to see you cut open one of those for comparison.
Ingenious idea! Thanks for sharing.
7 years later won't hear him talk so nicely about dewalt.
Although you already have a slot mortiser and a router table, have you ever considered making an overarm router? Seems like it may prove to be quicker in certain scenarios. I've never used one, so I don't know the pros and cons, but they sure seem convenient.
The whole time I was watching this I was thinking, why? Why bother with this, your pantarouter and slot mortiser are a way better solution! Then right in the last ten seconds you said just that. It's nice to see what it does there at the bottom of the mortise, I hadn't thought of that before.
Hi Mathias, where can I get the kit like that of yours for the stuffer bits? I bought the bits and I can't get one like it. Thanks for your great tips and videos. Regards.
that would make a nice overhead/plunge router if you used a palm router, like the bosch colt.
@OldSchoolSkill I concur, we need more pragmatic woodworkers as good as Matt ^.^
MUY INTEREZANTE ESTA ADAPTACION A LA MAQUINA
You did a good job I love your machien and I will make one just like you
How do i get the kit to fit my drill press
You are so good.
For better (and inexpensive) speed control, just use a plug-in dimmer.
You may have to limit its use, though, to short bursts of activity to prevent the motor getting too hot, as the cooling fan will also be slowed down and it might not push enough air past the motor armature.
Nunca tinha visto uma broca que fure quadrado muito interessante?
gooooood hand made all
tienes muchas habilidades para hacer cosas podrías mandar el plano para hacer el mortiser para madera gracias
how about mortising Chain , is there any way to use a fast drill machine and Guide bars to got a perfect mortise.thanks for sharing and sorry for writing errors.
Great idea 💡 👍 👏
where we can purchase this machinery and tools
Cool diy machine
Sei un genio Matthias!
Nice👌
Is that will be available present ??
We need that equipment urgently can you reply us...
hey matt my name is josh i have often wondered if its possible to make a wood router machine in the shape and rigidity of a bridgeport milling machine that would be desighned to cut wood instead of metal and wondered what your thoughts would be about this idea and if it would be possible.reply when you can thanks
joshua streets
Cuál es el nombre de ese tipo de brocas?
Se ve que son muy útiles.
Muy bien vídeo .
Estas son las brocas las podes enmcontrar en amazon www.amazon.com/4-Piece-Mortise-Chisel-Bit-Set/dp/B002U5XNKM/ref=sr_1_12?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1514844582&sr=1-12&keywords=Hollow+chisel+mortiser
hola Matthias soy un fiel admirador de todo lo q tu haces tengo dos preguntas al comprar los planos los precios estan en dolar ? y de casualidad tendras para armar una cierra de banco donde el disco suba baje y haga corte 45 ? la mia se daño y mi cituacion no esta para comprar una de fabrica , te lo encargo gracias y felicidades
Do have link where to buy holow chisel mortise..kindly pass to me
Videos like this are why you have >1 million subs.
Innovation.
I've used a real hollow chisel mortiser... They're beautiful to use.
donde puedo comprar una broca como la tulla, la que usas con tu rauter , aqui en mexico
Tebrikler Matthias...
execcellent works ,.bravo!,which type of wood you uses.?
exscuse me for my English language ,ciao
Спасибо за видео! Мне понравилось все видео.
Мое почтение! Это нужное и полезное ! браво!1!
can you build a drill press with a similar assembly?
how much does making your own tools compare to buying them?
كم انت رائع يا صديقى
Good video.
Great vid, thanksssss!!!!!!!
That's unacceptable. You didn't "build" the drill itself. :) - kidding aside you are awesome.
excelente, espero poder hacer uno igual
The router produces quality cuts but doesn't have the square edge. Why don't you ponder the idea of making a square edger tool for the routed slot. First, find a corner chisel or cut the mortise bit in half. Then attach that to that machine or a press you've just made.
Or built a portable drop in version then hammer away... accurately. Accommodate it so it won't get stuck. (You seem to like to make new stuffs. If it's already been done, then ...you can cancel the project.)
Where i can buy, am searching
More stuff that doesn’t work out of the box?
your a good man..
Thank you - just the information that I need :)
Grazie del video
I never realized these things did such a bad job, thanks
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I know this is very old, but a chisel mortiser is intended for a through mortise.
they aren't good for through mortises. Too much chip-out where the chisel breaks out.
thanks for the knowledge
Good idea.
Bro I have drilling mechine, where can buy other accessories
So when do you plan on building your own CNC machine? Would LOVE to see your take on it. ;)
VERY GOOD MY FRIEND, YU ARE VERY MOR !!!!
nice tool
I was thinking, it's basically a drill press. Why not just put the bit in a drill press?
I t is very useful video. thanks.
Bagus!!!....saya juga mau bikin itu....
cen these tools be available ot us
hi how mouch mortiser bit
keep up the good work!:D
Sangat kreatif
That is amazing!!!! 😉
great job but why not get a drill press
Uh, he said that.
Sure it doesn't make any sense making it when you could just buy it. But that's the whole point in DIY, right? The feeling of success when you make something.
how much inch long your Drill Bit Mortising Chisel?
next
Dónde compro esas brocas
excelente
I thought the chisel part that do the hammering
Hi matt. I'm sozophi I like you work and I would like to get more train carpentry and joinery can you help
Good