I would say that they both produce their own unique sounds and neither of them are actually better than the other. But I do think baroque music (especially strings) sounded great.
Had always wondered how the evolution of the instruments had effectually changed not only how it was played, but the tonal variation that became apparent. The bow is a far departure from what I would have ever imagined.
It's not just me who prefers the sweeter and more mellow sound of baroque string instruments above the sound of modern instruments. It seems that all the effort made on getting more volume and perhaps making instruments easier to play didn't do well for the way they sound now.
I totally agree. Unfortunately, chamber music doesn't pay the bills, because you can only fit a small crowd of people into the size of room that is appropriate for these instruments. And chamber music in a big hall is often a disappointing experience unless you are sitting in the first few rows.
If i have to be sincere, i've never fully appreciated the violin until i have heard "Baroque" models. Keep in mind, these are the instruments to whose we actually refer when we talk about the "golden age" of violin and instrument-making, and even in the late XVIII and in the XIX Century the likes of Paganini or Viotti where playing on gut-stringed, more lightly built instruments. Nowadays' ones are a lot more schreechy and harsh in their tone quality, to actually appreciate the sound of the violin you have to also listen to performance on the "Baroque" instrument.
@@grahambutler7674 in the baroque violin the musical expression is mostly in the bow usage. However, it's not true that vibrato didn't exist in the baroque era, it can be used a little bit during the "messa di voce": it makes the sound become even better.
Thank you for this video! And what about Stradivary's violins? They were made in 17 century, and also they has such difference with modern instruments.. So, How do modern violinists play them their modern repertoire? Even if you change gut strings to metal, the construction, ange of the neck, fingerboard are another...
@latyshevacomposer because they converted the full stradivari instruments to a modern violin setup which includes the bass board bridge etc it would sound and play in the exact same way modern violins are made. There is one exception with the crespi strad though.
That wasn't the tone I expected from a violin, the dark tone is really nice. Modern violins seem a lot brighter, probably partly due to the strings I use I guess.
Strads were baroque violins and they are still today's gold standard, so I thought the baroque violins would be identical to modern ones except for the string material and the lack of a shoulder rest.
@@Ekvitarius not at all, organic texture sounds are extremely if not impossible to recreate, in a record is less noticeable but in person you can spot it right away, even modern instruments live the sound is much more immersive and enveloping over an audio file
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment no it isn’t! It’s from the 3rd movement of Brandenburg 4 - Brandenburg 1 requires a piccolo violin as everyone knows .. surely?!
Bro that's not a Bach bow don't have it so tight, as a professional baroque violinist I can tell you that bow is WAYYYYY to tight, you want a D shape, but that is way too much. Only the extreme Bach bow would have something like that
"The guts string is made out of guts"
Of course
"The gut strings make a more 'gutsy' sound" 😂
“Cut gut”
Your profile pic says it all
Hmmmmm yes the floor here is made out of floor
Gut strings are made of cats 😱?
I don't know why but I feel like when I see baroque bows, I'm scared that it's gonna snap 🙈
I wish that he had kept playing. That's part of the Brandenburg 4th.
I feel teased. :)
I honestly LOVE the sounds of the baroque instruments far above the sounds of the modern...
you can move to Baroqueland. :)
I would say that they both produce their own unique sounds and neither of them are actually better than the other. But I do think baroque music (especially strings) sounded great.
Baroque music with baroque tuning sounds better. My hearing is too damaged to notice the difference between metal and gut strings.
no doubt they considered sound and frequencies with greater importance than people do today.
Had always wondered how the evolution of the instruments had effectually changed not only how it was played, but the tonal variation that became apparent. The bow is a far departure from what I would have ever imagined.
Just a question to the person who color graded this video: why?
I agree
maybe the color grader has very sensitive eyes and blue filters everything accordingly🙃
It's not just me who prefers the sweeter and more mellow sound of baroque string instruments above the sound of modern instruments.
It seems that all the effort made on getting more volume and perhaps making instruments easier to play didn't do well for the way they sound now.
I think that people wanted more volume instead of tone and color.
We lost something in the process.
I believe more volume was intended for larger orchestras and larger halls.
@@illbeback126
Bigger halls, mo money for hall operators.
I totally agree. Unfortunately, chamber music doesn't pay the bills, because you can only fit a small crowd of people into the size of room that is appropriate for these instruments. And chamber music in a big hall is often a disappointing experience unless you are sitting in the first few rows.
How to make a baroque bow? Over tighten your bow and don't loosen it
Lmao
That's how you make a broke bow.
Or is that what you meant, and it wooshed over my head?
If i have to be sincere, i've never fully appreciated the violin until i have heard "Baroque" models. Keep in mind, these are the instruments to whose we actually refer when we talk about the "golden age" of violin and instrument-making, and even in the late XVIII and in the XIX Century the likes of Paganini or Viotti where playing on gut-stringed, more lightly built instruments.
Nowadays' ones are a lot more schreechy and harsh in their tone quality, to actually appreciate the sound of the violin you have to also listen to performance on the "Baroque" instrument.
@UCrHICovzXa3ePnfRqUV5wkQ
They now have Aquila F-Red Strings which are Synthetic Core Strings for Baroque Instruments.
my violin fell down and baroque
i hate you
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌👌
Can you explain ? :c
@@TheCreate78 "baroque" "broke" both pronounced the same
Mine fell upwards
That middle played piece was impressive
Thank you. Sounds wonderful.
And remember: no vibrato!
Fuck off
@pretty boy you use ornamentation INSTEAD of vibrato on a baroque violin.
You can use vibrato just very little
@@grahambutler7674 in the baroque violin the musical expression is mostly in the bow usage. However, it's not true that vibrato didn't exist in the baroque era, it can be used a little bit during the "messa di voce": it makes the sound become even better.
@pretty boy yup and also during the classical era until the first half of the 20th century
I despise the sound of violin solos, but baroque violin is 100% enjoyable
I'd buy one, but I'm baroque.
Thank you for this video! And what about Stradivary's violins? They were made in 17 century, and also they has such difference with modern instruments.. So, How do modern violinists play them their modern repertoire? Even if you change gut strings to metal, the construction, ange of the neck, fingerboard are another...
@latyshevacomposer because they converted the full stradivari instruments to a modern violin setup which includes the bass board bridge etc it would sound and play in the exact same way modern violins are made. There is one exception with the crespi strad though.
I'm not sure what that Low G String Brand is from the Silk at the Tailpiece end, but Aquila now makes F-Red Sugar Cane strings.
I wonder how those strings would feel on the fingertips? Would they hurt as much as meral ones? Or even nylon ones?
@@patriciajrs46 The F-Reds are very soft, & also we have Warchal Ambers which are Flatwound to save the frets from scratches.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 Very wonderful. Thank you. Is it possible to make strings out of silk? Probably not.
That wasn't the tone I expected from a violin, the dark tone is really nice. Modern violins seem a lot brighter, probably partly due to the strings I use I guess.
Great violin!! Thank you
"This is violin from the 1720s..." then goes all Jimi Hendrix on the thing. Awesome.
Jimi Hendrix, Violin, Visible confusion...
Actually, he "goes all Johann Sebastian Bach", with a piece written in 1720.
What is the name of the piece you played at 1:00 minute
Fantastic Tone!!!
"Gut strings make gutsy sound" - Huw Daniel c.a. 2017
Beautiful 😀👍😍🤓
0:11 ah yes Huw Daniel,
*V i O L i n*
very good video, well said, thank you. btw you look like james wilson from dr. house
Strads were baroque violins and they are still today's gold standard, so I thought the baroque violins would be identical to modern ones except for the string material and the lack of a shoulder rest.
Most strads have had their necks refit to a modern dovetail and angle and fingerboard.
Where can I find the baroque strings? Does the Pirastro make these kind of strings? How are they called in englishy so I can look for them on Amazon
pirastro chorda violin strings
Dude went berserk as the moment he started playing
Is the bow hair made out of hair too?
MrRamazanLale2 lol
Are there any vegan baroque violins?
Yes, Carbon Fiber made, but they sound like shit.
no baroque violins... too niche
what is the length of the scale ? is it shorter than a modern violin?
Does this mean that vegetarians don't play this instrument?
cyndie26 vegans maybe
I wonder if they make synthetic gut strings...... probably wouldn’t sound exactly the same, though.
@@Ekvitarius not at all, organic texture sounds are extremely if not impossible to recreate, in a record is less noticeable but in person you can spot it right away, even modern instruments live the sound is much more immersive and enveloping over an audio file
I've never thought of this. Just blew my mind. I think the artistry far outweighs those beliefs.
They might. They just wouldn't eat it.
Where is the fine tuners?
They are a 19th century invention
@@ivyssauro123 And, besides, fine tuners don't really work on gut strings. particularly on the G and D!
interesting
Anyone knows what Brand of strings he's using?
Thanks
pirastro chorda
oh my... THE BOW OVER BENT (wait,it is a barque bow...it should be over bent...)
also you really cant control the curvature of the bow, most of them are clip in
I own a model A Ford. It rides better than a Ferrari. I like old things.
Where can I find these violin strings?
Oh there 680000000000$ for some them
Interesting what strings do he use?
Gevorg Vardanyan from what I heard, the strings are made out of sheep intestines.
pirastro chorda
What was the piece he played?
Hi Arturo, it's from the third movement of Bach's Brandenburg Concerto No.4 in G major, BWV 1049
Thank you!
I think it was Brandenburg concerto no 4, for solo violin and 2 recorders in G major. 3rd movement.
Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment no it isn’t! It’s from the 3rd movement of Brandenburg 4 - Brandenburg 1 requires a piccolo violin as everyone knows .. surely?!
You are quite right, apologies for the error! corrected.
un tale tono caldo e profondo e mi piace molto
What piece is he playing beautifull
Hi Thijmen, it's from Bach's Brandenburg Concerto No.4 in G major, BWV 1049 - 3rd movement.
OMG, that bow seems soo much tightened
This violin is worth $135,000. Pretty good one then....
very nice violonist i guess!
Agarra bien el arco
GamingCarlXD
I feel like ling ling would criticise this video
D
Bro that's not a Bach bow don't have it so tight, as a professional baroque violinist I can tell you that bow is WAYYYYY to tight, you want a D shape, but that is way too much. Only the extreme Bach bow would have something like that
That bow is way too tight
It's a Baroque bow. The man's not stupid.
Dude, if you didn’t listen, he said Baroque bows curve outwards
Dude loosen ur bow
I joke