Six Hours of Pure Chaos | Paris-Roubaix 2022 | Lanterne Rouge x Zwift
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this episode Lanterne Rouge and Benji Naesen recap Paris-Roubaix 2022.
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You should try and get Mohorič on your podcast. He is super talkative and very knowledgeable. It's always fun to listen to his interviews.
Good call
There were actually 6 Intermarche riders in the top 23, amazing!
Great Edition of Paris Roubaix , i couden't believe that Küng (our King here in Switerland) did well in a Sprint, I was sure he woud come 5th.
Also Intermarches Performance just incredible, sadly they will not get all of the almost 600 UCI Points because of the top 10 Rider Rule, but they should be safe anyway.
Küng finally did a 500m sprint with a surprise element that’s how he can pull it off
Mohorič also deserved at least a podium. An amazing performance!!!
Who knows what happens if he (and half the people in the break) don't puncture, but they get to defend their 2' lead for longer
Ineos won the Giro two years in a row for the last two years. They were on the podium of 2020 Vuelta and 2021 TDF. Yet Eurosport/GCN and cyclingnews comments section were like “they were struggling in the GTs so they pivot into a classic team”. I wouldn’t call a win and a podium each year in a GT struggling. That’s consistently good performance.
Random thoughts...
- Really happy for DVB, that was very well deserved and he seems like a really nice guy.
- Mohoric is reaching legend status.
- What an amazing spring for King Kung.
- IWG with 6 in the top 23 blows my mind
- Teams will now add covid to their training program for 2023.
Wanty cobble train is the new Sky mountain train, can't wait to see it next year in PR.
@@fuzzybee3788 with Girmay, hopefully!
@@texwallis That would be terrifying, anyone they can't drop loses a sprint to Girmay probably
HYPE!
Opi, not satisfied with last years carnage came in person to ruin Lampaerts race
im so surprised how not many riders put cleat imprints in every cheek of those spectators after stuff like this
Van Aert's performance, so as Longo Borghini's one, proves, in my opinion, that riders constantly train to much, and when they have to take a short break, they come back fresh and strong.
Hard to argue! I was glad to see Van Aert looking strong one way or another.
I actually think it's about racing too much. But yeah same concept
@counselthyself Racing is absolutely not good training. Sure, it helps you sharpen your sword and bring your peak power figures up if you haven't hit your peak yet, but every week you race, you're hemmorhaging cardiovascular fitness because the races are so hard on your heart/body. On top of that you have to sacrifice training rides for the sake of recovery.
MVDP has been racing his ass off, but because he couldn't build a big cardiovascular base because of the back injury, he's already off his performance peak after a month of racing.
Ineos 🔥 this new style of racing Dave promised has finally showed up
I am so waiting for LBL on sunday. Pogacar, Alaphilippe, Pidcock and Van Aert... That is going to be so lit.
21:58 I have to disagree with LR here. This sector actually has a paved "gutter" of about 50cm on either side of the road. Lampaert wasn't riding in the dirt/grass like on other sectors but on tarmac. On the straight lign, this paved lane is blocked so that riders must ride on the cobbles. But near turns, it is fully cleared so that riders can take them better. It is clearly part of the road and is the intended way by the organisation. This is not Lampaert taking risks at all as riders are meant to ride there on thiese specific turns
@counselthyself Yeah that's basically what I was saying
This was absolutely mental,one of the greatest edition of Paris Roubaix,we have really to enjoy such races and last year's edition was absolutely outstanding also,we are very fortunate to live those races because it hasn't been like this some other years, again, let's absolutely remember this utter great classic, thanks to Ineos for changing the way they supposed to ride in the past and to all the riders of this particular race,it was a pleasure to watch 👌✌️🇧🇪🍻
Actually impressed by post-Covid Van Aert
Thought he was finished after arenberg
post-positive-covid test. Did he have a few sniffles? Could have been repair time for leg muscles.
@@brianmiller1254 doesn’t need to have cardiovascular catastrophes to be disruptive. See Bernal last year.
Great to see Küng get a podium. Looks like LR finally sat him down and talked about the horrors of capitalism, industrialised society, and how awful a place the world is, motivating Küng to ride for himself
He really didn't though, he possibly pulled more than anyone else in the chasing group, as well as earlier in the day. This podium is less than he could have achieved
@@fuzzybee3788 yeah he is always pulling even if he doesnt really have to
Best race. Deserved win for DvB. Gutted for Lampaert, and missed seeing QS do QS stuff; however, INEOS was very fun to watch. IWG-love the team and so thrilled to see how well they performed.
Ty! Great content and again- great race!!
Was a fab race. Only April fricking hell its been a great season already
Totally agree with Benji - we need split screen coverage during these insane races!
As always it's a tragedy when I can't watch Paris Roubaix. This is the third one I had to miss since Cancellara's first win, I usually plan better so I can watch. Sounds like another great race I missed. :(
At least I can be happy about the winner. Van Baarle is an absolute legend, and he deserves a monument on his palmares. And second that shoutout to Bas Tietema. Showed amazing character today.
If LR can say “Bingo-El” I think Benji should be allowed to say “A-Taco” 😂👌
Epic race. Ineos made so much work and deseverd to win
Paris-Roubaix always delivers 🔥🔥
The best race on the calendar - without a doubt!
Have you guys seen Ben Turner's interview after the race? You can tell he put his absolute all into it and how emotional the win for Dylan is for him, here's the interview:
th-cam.com/video/i478m35Ym4Y/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for that.
Ineos are the new Quickstep.
which is good. old ineos kinda ruined the TdF for me. its no fun when the winner is basically clear
Interesting that Brailsford was talking in his 'diary of a ceo' interview about trying to develop ineos into being a less robotic, rational 'win at all costs' outfit into a team that is 'loved' for the way they win. You could argue the tactics this spring have won a lot of admirers in that respect. More passionate racing, less marginal gains.
No mention of Big Ben? What a ride for a neo-pro and the way they set up Van Baarles move was picture perfect
Kung really deserved it yo
Good coverage 👌
Ballerini was in the Mohoric group initially but had been dropped / had a mechanical and was like 10s in front of the peloton when Bisseger attacked and he latched onto that but once that didn’t work probably should have gone back to the peloton
Honestly quick step tactically they did great, but they are so unlucky, they had ballerini in mohoric group if he didnt have problems quick step should have 2 riders, senechal was caught in a crash too, even with that they could ended in top3, poor lampaert.
@@flyingberserker3965 I agree , shit luck this classics season but it happens , still the Ardennes to come
I thought Ineos' only mis-step in this race was waiting for Ganna, I thought he should have dropped back to the second group then got a free ride as they tried to close the gap. He looked so strong when bridging back up, but that was a load of wasted effort when he could have been chilling and letting others do the work.
Even though the fan who brought down Lampaert down was at fault Lampaert wasn't riding in the road at all, he was riding on the tarmac cycle path to the side of the cobbles, in my opinion trying to cheat them. For this section of really needs to be barriered so that this can't happen. On the other cobbled sections where they do this the gutters are dirt, not always that flat, and there is a risk, whereas in this final cobbled section of is obviously move of an urban cycle path which offers a complete flat surface, it's basically on the outskirts of Roubaix.
If there has been barriers here then this wouldn't have happened. They did have certain small bollards in this cycle path and maybe think they don't need barriers because there aren't enough fans there to warrant them, but I think they are needed. The cobbles on this section aren't even that bad. It was a great race, great analysis guys. It'll be interesting to see if van Baarle stays at Ineos. They should try to keep him at all costs I think.
Great analysis guys.
Thanks, Patrick! :)
Devriend was in the top 10 at Roubaix twice already, I think a lot of people missed that yesterday
Ineos are really on a roll! Van Baarle may not have been the strongest rider today, but Ineos no doubt were the strongest team. Conversely, Wout van Aert was the strongest rider on the day, but got little support from his team and also had some miserable luck. If not for those three mechanicals/punctures, he probably would have won the race.
Actually the quickest roubaix ever :0
Great props to INTERMARCHE WANTY GOBERT, absolutely AGREED 👌✌️🍻🇧🇪
Ineos 4th big win in one week and a super spring classics season all with Piddcock who was supposed to be their big leader having a hard time keeping healthy.
Lampaert was in the gutter. The spectator was outstretched clapping but still not over the road.
My take is that on that section where they have asphalted the sides they should have actual barriers instead of yellow blocks every 20m.
Kinda like arenberg having the barriers over the path.
Wout and Mathieu need to make an alliance because no one will cooperate in a group with both of them. Everyone else takes turns attacking them, and they can't cover everything.
I see a lot of people ( not just here) mentionnong the "gutter" where riders shouldn't ride. Didn't it occur to anyone this was not "gutter" but a cycling lane (not path) and thus part of the road?
But still the purpose of riding on cobbles should be to ride on cobbles, surely. Should be barriedered off imo
A lot of those parts, the organisers put ballasts in to stop riders riding there. A lot the riders are swinging in and out in between ballasts.
All this ballast thing is rubbish. They shouldn't use this low level cobble sector at all. To make it "challenging" they add thise ballast but only on the first part as they know it would create danger in the sinuous second part. Either put actual barrier (like in Flanders) or go elsewhere, or don't complain that the riders ride where they have the right to (meaning the actual entire road).
There are rules restricting riders riding everywhere, in this case it was perfectly inside the rule so the fan should respect that, period.
@@nico210 A few years ago there were rules saying not riding on the road (ie. not riding the cobbles but use the gutter, bike path etc.) would lead to disqualification. Luke Rowe was even disqualified once after he got onto the side walk as a result of trying to avoid a crash. I guess that rule is just impossible to enforce so UCI just dropped it.
@@suisinghoraceho2403 Hi. As stated in my previous post, there is a difference between a bike lane (on the road), a bike path (separated physically) and a sidewalk, also separated and not to be used by cyclists. The bike lane on the road was always and remains accessible for road races, the other two not. So no, I don't thibk the rules have changed, although I agree their application is not always coherent.
Again, in the discussed scenario, the use of cycle lane on the road was always allowed. From the rule perspective there is no difference between those side lanes in the Hem sector and the red bike lanes on most roads in the Amstel Gold Race.
Hey guys how about a section of these reviews where you go over what happened to the top 10 bookies pre-race favorites and what happened to them today
Estonia was very strong in PR juniors today with 4 riders in the top 15, almost Wanty-like in strength despite not winning
I think its a real pity that you cant watch live gps and watt individually like you could do in MSR in the Paris-Roubaix. Epic race anyway, but it was frustrating to try to follow Kristoff along the way.
Hot take: UAE signs Van Barle to bolster both their TdF squad and classics for Pogacar. Van Barle will have free rein on PR until it is moved to October
Van Aert shouldn't have attacked right after he came back. He also should not have closed all the attacks while there was 2 INEOS riders. The one thing he should have done was close immediately any INEOS move.
He cannot let go any INEOS rider because the other one will block the chase and attack as soon as his teamate is caught after a good rest. And he shouldn't chase any move not containing an INEOS rider. They will have to chase when everyone starts lokking at each other because they're the only one who can burn a rider. By chasing back moves as soon as he got on, he signaled to the other riders that he was willing to do it and was not playing games. He had a golden occasion to bluff and to make other works.
Indeed, not the best advice from JUMBO VISMA!!!!Van Aert was very very strong and yes he had again some bad luck but he could very much so recuperate a bit more after the comeback to the VDP group but again he was isolated at the end, very unfortunate also!!!
He often reaches straight for the hammer, rather than tweaking with the spanner first from the race craft toolbox. Not sure it can be taught, but guess it's the CX in him coming out and also he so often does win simply with the hammer anyway. MVP rides similarly I've noticed, although both riders are reacting to each other when in the same race.
@@SamHocking MVDP is actually very good at bluffing. He has raced really intelligently this year but perhaps it is because he isn't as strong as last year
@@LF-hj8kk He still lacks the pure race race craft both individually and at a team level imo. Wout & MVP very much individual riders racing individual strategies as if a CX race.
@@SamHocking I still find that when MVDP is the strongest, he wins but Van Aert often lose despite being the strongest like in Tokyo
🤣 iQ 5000 moves. That’s a legendary bike change
What a ridiculous race. So many punctures and mechanicals. A lot of twists too. Can't believe I watched over 5 hours of it. You did well to summarise it into 35 minutes.
Mvdp monument record is crazy
If I recall correctly,Van Baarle ended third in the 2018 edition and he always was some kind of factor the other years,he deserves the win but I really have to add,if Wout Van Aert had lesser problems, he would maybe the one to beat Dylan but I am a little buyiest but it's a point to be debated...
That spectator incident looked like it was done on purpose.
Where's Grogu??
Van Baerle and VDP for world championships
Van Baarle superior to Asgreen maybe? I think they're both a level above Mohoric and Stuyven of the classics men, who are more opportunists and clever tactically.
They're bigger engines, for sure. You see the size of the riders who are able to freight-train the cobble sectors, it's almost like being a bit heavier helps keep from being bucked off the bike by bumps and potholes. Riskier for punctures tho, better not be on Pirellis.
L'Enfer du Nord
C'est le nord, des ch'ti
WVA could have won the race..he was distracted by evanopel and did not respond to mohoric attack and then dilan van barle. Wva was in very good shape but dilan var barle was by far the smartest rider...he managed very well his effort and perfectly timmed his final move
It feels like Quickstep is really declining this season. Perhaps they took a hit sponsor-wise or Loulou and Remco are taking too much of the team’s resources. Their spring team has diminished so much and has been forced to lean really heavily on riders that would normally be considered as support to lead. Yves, Florian, Ballerini and Asgreen are watt monsters but don’t have the sprint or consistency to be true leaders of a cobbling squad. I hope they can turn it around next season cause it’s breaking my heart.
The entire spring team struggled with disease and setbacks for some time, though I also feel like the tactics of QST have been off this spring, with Ineos essentially perfectly duplicating them using their team strength.
I don't think Remco actually gets payed that much. And if he is, it is deserved. He currently has been their best rider in these first few months (and 2nd best rider overall with 6th in the UCI ranking, only topped by Alaphilippe's 4th).
Also it is a bit QST's thing to not have an outspoken leader, but rather use the overall teams strength to win, kind of like Ineos is doing currently. I would say they missed Alaphilippe, eventhough I wouldn't have called him a clear leader in the spring classics looking at for example last year, more another strong rider.
I also think it is time to reinforce their cobble team with new blood and take out for example Stybar. I don't like to say it, but I don't think he has been worth it in the team cobble team this spring and next year he'll be 37. Ofcourse it might be different based on internal team stats. But yeah, I think it should be considered an option.
I think mohoric was the strongest rider but not the smartest
18 wins for Ineos
What a disaster for Uae Team : just 1 rider in top 70. Exactly at 43e position. So BAD, specially for them budget
'..Ineos caught the big teams napping..' Ineos not a big team ???
We were referring to Alpecin, Trek and Jumbo.
There's an implied 'other' in there.
I think MVDP is a bit overrated for this race. The long heavy power doesn’t suit him as well as these other tall heavy riders. I’d say the 2nd place he got last year, was mainly due to the technical ability on the wet cobbles and roads, and though probably better legs on top of that
Tubeless tires were worthless at Roubaix. Disc brakes were a PIA and cost many people time. It is amazing how far the bike industry will go to push "technology" that the pros don't want in order to sell stupid people new bikes.
First and foremost - this was the fastest-ever edition of Paris-Roubaix. Full stop. Faster than the psycho drug-fueled era of rim-brake bikes. If you're going to winge about discs and tubeless holding people up, keep in mind that even WVA, with all his mechanicals, finished over three minutes ahead of the previous fastest-ever Paris-Roubaix finishing time (GvA in 2017).
Second, you're really showing how clueless you are about cycling. Go back and watch any older "rim-brake" edition of PR, count the flats, as well as how many people crash out. The mechanical carnage of PR is literally the defining characteristic of the race. You'd have to be riding the course on a goddamn mountain bike to minimize the risk of puncturing. Like, sorry if you had money on Wout, but you didn't lose your bet because of disc brakes.
Also would love to hear your thoughts on what it would have been like to ride 2021 PR on a rim-brake bike. But yeah, whole bike industry is out to screw you over, poor you, the equipment choices of professional bike racers are actually all about you, it's your world we're just taking up space in it, etc. etc.
Van Aert finished one helping Primoz Roglic short of the win.
Van Aert or Mohoric had the best legs not Van Baarle if you ask me. Van Baarle was just lucky that Van Aert was sick of closing every attack himself and decided to let it go that time when Van Baarle accelerated. Only if Van Aert knew VDP was so weak to continue with them he probably would have followed Van Baarle.
WVA could have also won the race by countering over Kung and Mohorič, he was gapping DvB off his wheel.
WVA lost the race by being too aggressive. Van Baarle wasn’t just lucky. He has enough experience to read WVA’s moves.
Road cycling has come so close to F1 in so many ways. For example, riders need to change tires every 60 minutes.
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Benji plz don't act like you dont know THE giro stage and Lavenir WINNER and THE 3 time in a row danish TT CHAMPION Lars Ytting Bak
I do, haha. Just mentioned his current job. His previous results were irrelevant to him saying someone punctured. 😅
At least that old guy wasn't holding a sign like some numpties
MVP was not close to being able to win this PR. WVA was the strongest in the race. DVB stole a second from Pog at Flanders... and then stole the PR victory from WVA.
@counselthyself I did not say it was wrong... but DVB was not the strongest guy in the race... when that guy wins, he "stole" the race... good on him. It is racing, but it is not racing where the strongest man wins.
He didn't stole anything he deseverd the podium at Flanders and this win
F for the Quickstep guy at the end lost a Potential Podium because of the Audience🥲