MTG Arena - Standard - Ashiok Control - BO3

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  • @HellScream107
    @HellScream107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Opponent with the salty "Your Go" when they knew they had no chance whatsoever against LVD and his infinite zen-like patience.

    • @willriggs3409
      @willriggs3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It bothers me more than it should when they spam "Your Go". It just seems lame as hell

    • @OdinHerjan
      @OdinHerjan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@harbs613 it bothers me that it bothers you that it bothers him

    • @Waffletoasters
      @Waffletoasters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@willriggs3409 This is why we have mute :)

    • @Dog3D
      @Dog3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WaffleToaster mute works fine but I don’t auto mute in case I have to say hello or good game back. It’s worth the trade off. I just wish that people weren’t assholes in games but that’s asking too much

    • @willriggs3409
      @willriggs3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dog3D and of course the ever present rope! That's a true treat

  • @Mulch4321
    @Mulch4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    A poem, if you will:
    What's this I see?
    A best of 3?
    I'm happy as can be!
    Thanks LVD!

  • @Dog3D
    @Dog3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I really dislike the first opponent after they say “your go” after having to wait 2 seconds for you to think about your play to counter and following plays.
    People don’t realize the better you get at magic, you don’t get much faster, but actually a little slower since you get more deliberate and conscious of all the plays and counterplays

    • @enioapolinario8538
      @enioapolinario8538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree a little, its okay to think about your plays but anyone deserve a slow player (i am not talking about LegenVD, i am talking about the "rope" guys)

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@enioapolinario8538 Well there's players who take the time to think about plays and then there are the assholes who tab out and forget they are playing a game lol

  • @HellScream107
    @HellScream107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also, that "Men in Black" reference at the very end was clutch. I'll never play Thought Erasure again without humming the MIB theme. Well done on all accounts, LVD.

  • @TarikA
    @TarikA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Amazing deck. So many answers. Guess it's the next one I'm spending my wildcards on. Thanks as always, legendary "ontoody next one" LegenVD.

  • @zappyice
    @zappyice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aww no thought distortion in the side that card wrecks control mirrors and honestly one of the most satisfying cards to resolve when you exile their whole hand

  • @LegenVD
    @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    What nightmares do you remember?

    • @AlexSmith-ph5gc
      @AlexSmith-ph5gc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Playing against control decks

    • @maxwellromza8390
      @maxwellromza8390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      my opponent having kiora bests the sea god in draft

    • @patrickbuerke1390
      @patrickbuerke1390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      An extremely scary one when I was young where a monstrous being killed someone, enslaved their soul, and used their skin for a piggy bank

    • @ifeedalot7643
      @ifeedalot7643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Playing against Jace, the Mind Sculptor

    • @finedecision5639
      @finedecision5639 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first dream i could remember was santa claus eating me

  • @nothankyou4859
    @nothankyou4859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i pulled an ashiok today and i was literally thinking of putting together this deck a few hours ago. thank you

  • @davidburns1721
    @davidburns1721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay a LegenVD BO3 vid, thank you! Been thinking of a deck like this and this looks great :)

  • @Carraidas
    @Carraidas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooooo pleasant to watch and listen. You clearly deserve more subscribers for that amazing job.

  • @archiviodicitazioni
    @archiviodicitazioni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    let's see how this deck does!

    • @RooZvonBooZ
      @RooZvonBooZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright, we're on the draw...

    • @archiviodicitazioni
      @archiviodicitazioni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RooZvonBooZ with a reasonable handS

  • @Laniakea_Super
    @Laniakea_Super 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    People complain about mono red a lot, but I would honestly prefer RDW to that Sultai deck you played against. Krasis and Uro are both just so good and so boring.

    • @aristaljunior5578
      @aristaljunior5578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And they have been top tier decks since Krasis released, at least we had a time were mono red wasnt top tier.

    • @phothar93
      @phothar93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mono Red in this meta is quite balanced and not boring to play with/against at all.

  • @TheReaperRonin
    @TheReaperRonin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could have a few cry of the carnarium in the side board, or even in main deck (maybe taking out 2 ritual or something), that handles cat very well and is decent against mono red

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's just ok against red after board, as it misses all the high impact cards. Experienced food players will also keep their cat in the graveyard during your turn, so it doesn't get swept up by Cry.

  • @jakenhsman
    @jakenhsman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm having fun with a deck kinda/sorta like this, but leaning hard into opp-hand control and milling, w/ 4x Thought erasures, agonizing remorses, and fenlurkers, along with UC ashioks. Pretty fun, has a lot of trouble against enchantments like Oven. If i get some Loch Serpents, i might try something like this one :)

  • @phothar93
    @phothar93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nobody:
    LVD: LOOKING FOR MAGICARPP??

  • @Wolf21973
    @Wolf21973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aahaaa you can tell that guy was getting irritated and pissed before he concede

  • @RV1AND
    @RV1AND 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how you mention Uro as a target for Eat to Extinction. Elder giant on elder giant cannibalism!

    • @wrydrune
      @wrydrune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's hot.

  • @BrianSchultzMedia
    @BrianSchultzMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Legend, I would like your opinion on changes to this deck to include the new set (Ikoria) if any. Thank you!

  • @juanmanuelverona9230
    @juanmanuelverona9230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello from Argentina! Would you mind to renew this deck with the ikoria expansion? thanks a lot!

  • @ConFusi0n
    @ConFusi0n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Thought Erasure MVC edit lol :)

  • @jacobwatson7744
    @jacobwatson7744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No consideration for drown in the Loch? I like the versatility of that card. Maybe bad with escape mechanic.

  • @charlieday7731
    @charlieday7731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol love the Thought Eraser MVC.

  • @erenjaegerbomb8653
    @erenjaegerbomb8653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    35:00 are we not gonna mention you shuffled away Thought Erasure then drew it anyway? Lol

  • @DanyF02
    @DanyF02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:10 When even the game feels like this attack is broken.

  • @StaVla553
    @StaVla553 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you had to play this deck at BO1 , what changes would you make at the deck ?

  • @rickeyboy42
    @rickeyboy42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a simple man. I see Simic lose, I like the video.

  • @bvian358
    @bvian358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why no Narsets? Great prison against a lot of decks and would always hit with the digging

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mention it during the video.

    • @bvian358
      @bvian358 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegenVD My bad, i just had the chance to watch the decktech. Thanks for the awesome content, best mtg channel on yt!

  • @genbu2870
    @genbu2870 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Deck.
    What is in your opinion better in standard atm:
    Esper Control or Dimir Control?

  • @mattd3978
    @mattd3978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That MIB thought erasure was awesome

  • @raymondortizrivera4368
    @raymondortizrivera4368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where does he get those wonderful cards?:^)
    Great gaming

  • @LauncherSpiderMk7
    @LauncherSpiderMk7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After testing this deck, how useful do you feel Ashiok is? He seems fun, but not sure if he's worth dumping my last remaining mythic wildcards.

  • @povisykt
    @povisykt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice games.

  • @evisceratemtg6141
    @evisceratemtg6141 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious, how often does everyone play planeswalkers vs decks without planeswalkers?

  • @Terrivian_Vess
    @Terrivian_Vess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woot!

  • @rizamramandira7318
    @rizamramandira7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thoughts on unmoored ego?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The "combo" decks in standard can usually win without their namesake card, so I don't think it's particularly useful. Even UW has multiple win conditions.

  • @ectyvolt3103
    @ectyvolt3103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gonna ask you again, if I want to buy a deck between the white weenies and this one, which one is the most competitive ? Thanks a lot :) very instructive video

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neither deck has a proven track record in BO3 constructed. This decks has a little more adaptability.

  • @frosthenoob
    @frosthenoob ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it worth making an Ashiok deck after 3 years?

  • @ivelinivanov5998
    @ivelinivanov5998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which cards would you consider a budget alternative for Brazen borrower?

    • @LauncherSpiderMk7
      @LauncherSpiderMk7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I know, there aren't any other cards that let you bounce any type of permanent for 2 mana. Tyrant's Scorn can only target creatures. Borrower is a very unique card.

  • @wrydrune
    @wrydrune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could the planeswalker deck ashiok fit anywhere in here or does she just suck that bad?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it's pretty bad.

  • @vincentchan1814
    @vincentchan1814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is liliana good in this deck?

  • @I_AM_IRON_VAN
    @I_AM_IRON_VAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bo3 is pretty classy!

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Dad

  • @jejedodo
    @jejedodo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello have question how many mythic rare card the same name csn have on table

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rarity doesn't matter, but you can only control one Legendary card with the same name.

    • @jejedodo
      @jejedodo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh thx

  • @sckanis
    @sckanis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna see a deck with Devourer of Memory )

  • @Waghabond
    @Waghabond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like this video needed to feature a match against uw since that seems like the worst match up against one of the current tier 1 decks

    • @D-Ice55
      @D-Ice55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No chance, I reached mythic rank with this deck but against uw control I've always lost.

  • @zylle1993
    @zylle1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to play this! :)

  • @Waghabond
    @Waghabond 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does this deck beat dreamtrawler

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You discard or counter it. Libation after board.

    • @zappyice
      @zappyice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegenVD the 0/4 wall form birth says hi

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zappyice I doubt Birth is staying in after sideboard.

    • @damianvc31
      @damianvc31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LegenVD Even though they are playing fewer lands because of it?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@damianvc31 The deck still has plenty of card manipulation to hit its land drops. It depends on how the UW sideboard is configured and what other cards they want to take out.

  • @alexcrosbie6424
    @alexcrosbie6424 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking for magickarps

  • @drkspawn32
    @drkspawn32 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you run ashiok then you gotta run spark double. Nothing better than having 4 ashioks down.

  • @CloakedJester
    @CloakedJester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Illegal attack" lol

  • @lucagiovanninieddu2603
    @lucagiovanninieddu2603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting

  • @enioapolinario8538
    @enioapolinario8538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ashiok top5 waifus 😍

  • @crashfellow82
    @crashfellow82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In game 2 he died of boredom.

  • @wesh8121
    @wesh8121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not take one of the 2 riders to kill the krasis you knew was coming?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because finding a discard spell could have prevented the card draw, which seemed more important. Plenty of answers for Krasis once it's in play.

  • @JDDELAMIGO
    @JDDELAMIGO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wanted to know if "muse" is a unisex adjective. If it isn't, maybe there is the answer of Ashiok's gender.

    • @joshuachoo7555
      @joshuachoo7555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're canonically genderless. Use the they pronoun. "It" is dehumanising.

    • @shadearca
      @shadearca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can answer from an origins perspective. The word in Greek is Μοῦσαι, and like all greek nouns and adjectives, it is not gender-neutral. It is distinctively female. Which makes sense since, in mythology, the Muses were the nine daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne, the titan goddess of memory. They were considered minor patrons of the arts and science. Famously in the first sentence of the Odyssey, Homer asks Muses for inspiration to tell the story. The English word is gender-neutral though. It just means a source of inspiration.

    • @maxwellplaysvideogames
      @maxwellplaysvideogames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuachoo7555 I'm not sure if Ashiok even IS human

    • @joshuachoo7555
      @joshuachoo7555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxwellplaysvideogames .... yall are still using human conceptions of gender + treating them as a person, so... "dehumanising" still applies....

  • @kevincastner4541
    @kevincastner4541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ashiok sounds like Petyr Baelish

  • @jorgecardoso5863
    @jorgecardoso5863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't Ashiok a muse? Why does she sound like a poorly recorded shoddy Voldemort impression?

    • @emjackson81989
      @emjackson81989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ashiok is confirmed in canon as genderless and uses the "They" pronoun. I thought they were a guy for the longest time. :-P

  • @worsethanjoerogan8061
    @worsethanjoerogan8061 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does Blue Green always get the best cards though? Uro is busted

    • @rizamramandira7318
      @rizamramandira7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had it rough before nissa and to an extent RNA

  • @Zempptossomania
    @Zempptossomania 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Bo3

  • @JS-it3dx
    @JS-it3dx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LLLLLLLooooooking for magic cards?????

  • @khepri3266
    @khepri3266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    BO3 makes playing agaisnt RDW and control a lot more tolerable.

  • @nemeanlioness
    @nemeanlioness 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this deck is messed up.

  • @stevene6181
    @stevene6181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this deck is everything i hate about control players.

    • @khepri3266
      @khepri3266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven E nah, needs at least 10 more counter spells and 5 more board wipes

    • @Redskull1411
      @Redskull1411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khepri3266 nah it needs more agresive discard, counters and LAND WIPES ( nobody like his board been wiped and then his LANDS being whiped on topdeck mode)

    • @khepri3266
      @khepri3266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Franco Alessandro Marchetti I’ll do ya one better. Why destroy those precious lands when you can just steal them with agent of treachery.

    • @wallbant
      @wallbant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you clearly arent good enough at magic if you cant play against control players well enough

    • @AdolfHitler-pm3lc
      @AdolfHitler-pm3lc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wallbant Hating control players and being bad against them are two very different things