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  • Johnjoe McFadden discusses how quantum mechanics principles manifest in the natural world.
    00:00 What is quantum biology?
    02:16 How revolutionary is it for the life sciences?
    02:56 What is quantum/proto tunnelling in DNA?
    04:59 How do quantum mechanics principles apply in quantum biology?
    06:24 Does quantum biology better explain consciousness?
    09:27 What is Occam's razor principle?
    13:12 Why is simplicity a good guide?
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    Quantum mechanics has long influenced and unalterably changed the world of physics. Yet, biology has taken some time to catch-up. How might our exploration of the quantum influence our understanding of life, consciousness and the natural world?
    #QuantumBiology #JohnjoeMcFadden #QuantumMechanics
    Johnjoe McFadden is a scientist, professor and writer at the University of Surrey. He has written many popular science books including Life on the Edge: The Coming of Age of Quantum Biology and Quantum Evolution.
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  • @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas
    @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you liked this video please check out more of our interviews at iai.tv/player?TH-cam&+comment

    • @Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too
      @Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video could be cut down to one expression: "For a cell to have a fundamental property X, this property X needs to go all the way down to the bottom of the rabbit-hole".

  • @burgercide
    @burgercide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Penrose‘s theory does not require quantum effects to be spread over the entire brain. In his theory the effect is localized in neuron microtubules. This seems to be a very common misunderstanding.

    • @dylanshort8593
      @dylanshort8593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      good point. hope you're eating vegan burgers bro. impossible, beyond, boca. crush vegan burgers and get strong

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Localization requires a focused or converging projective point -- syntropic.
      Generalization is dual to localization.
      The double helix should be called the dual helix, the code of life is dual.
      Syntropy (prediction, projection) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics!
      Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy).
      Energy is duality, duality is energy
      Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy -- gravitational energy is dual.
      Electro is dual to magnetic -- electro-magnetic energy is dual.
      Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in projective duality.
      The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem.
      Making predictions to track targets, goals and objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
      "We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist.
      Predicting ourselves into existence is a syntropic process or a dual process to that of increasing entropy!
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      Duality (energy) creates reality.

  • @yusufali7293
    @yusufali7293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ever since I came to know that a physicist's book "What Is Life" by Schrödinger lead Watson et. to the discovery of DNA structure, I had been looking forward for something like QUANTUM BIOLOGY.
    This is a dream come true for me.
    Dear iai,
    Thank you!

  • @robertflynn6686
    @robertflynn6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its knowing quantum physics of all sorts of liquid crystal objects. Very beautiful.

  • @johnpayne7873
    @johnpayne7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gilbert Ling proposed water had a special state at the interface with biomolecules from electric field theory. This “bio ice” state of water would cause ion desolvation, increasing the dielectric constant, amplifying the electric field strength and thus the importance of such interactions. Example: Tatsuo Iwazumi applied this concept in his electrostatic model of muscle contraction - elegant but now discarded in favor of a conformational ratchet of AF Huxley and others.
    A revisit of Ling’s idea from quantum mechanics would be interesting …

  • @gerardostheimer43
    @gerardostheimer43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the followers of Art and Ideas, file this one under art: Performance art. Chemistry and the "chemical bond" is very much entwined with QM. Having a Ph.D. in Molecular Biology, having used Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy to solve a peptide structure (as elegant an application of QM as one can imagine), having done X-ray crystallography (another elegant application of QM), I can assure you, dear reader, that biochemists very much appreciate quantum mechanics and its limits. This gentleman's arguments remind me of the Ancient Alien Theorists. Something striking or impressive or poorly explained is so unusual that it must be Aliens, errrr, Quantum. I saw lectures on the quantum mechanics of photosynthesis 20 years ago. These things are well understood. The quantum mechanics / mechanics of hydrogen bonding (and as such DNA base pair recognition) is well understood. This guy is taking advantage of the fact that most people don't understand the basics of biochemistry and quantum mechanics to sell books. I suspect that the hard working scientists working at the productive interface of QM and biology cringe at outlandish claims of Dr. McFadden. I'd love to see Sabine Hossenfelder dismember this snake oil salesman.

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The double helix should be called the dual helix, the code of life is dual.
      Syntropy (prediction, projection) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics!
      Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy).
      Energy is duality, duality is energy
      Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy -- gravitational energy is dual.
      Electro is dual to magnetic -- electro-magnetic energy is dual.
      Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in projective duality.
      The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem.
      Making predictions to track targets, goals and objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
      "We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist.
      Predicting ourselves into existence is a syntropic process or a dual process to that of increasing entropy!
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      Duality (energy) creates reality.

  • @WestOfEarth
    @WestOfEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't the Principle of Least action a formalization of Occam's Razor?

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Action is dual to reaction -- Sir Isaac Newton (the duality of force).
      The double helix should be called the dual helix, the code of life is dual.
      Syntropy (prediction, projection) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics!
      Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy).
      Energy is duality, duality is energy
      Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy -- gravitational energy is dual.
      Electro is dual to magnetic -- electro-magnetic energy is dual.
      Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in projective duality.
      The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem.
      Making predictions to track targets, goals and objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
      "We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist.
      Predicting ourselves into existence is a syntropic process or a dual process to that of increasing entropy!
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      Duality (energy) creates reality.

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quantum biology is going to change everything. Revisit this quote in twenty years.

    • @S.G.Wallner
      @S.G.Wallner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In what way is it going to change everything? I'd like to know.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@S.G.Wallner Come back in 20 years to find out!

    • @S.G.Wallner
      @S.G.Wallner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andybaldman haha maybe... But honestly I'm not getting my hopes up. My understanding of QM makes me think there may not be truly quantum applications. And I don't count quantum computing because I wonder how we can use a system which is based largely in probabilities and fields. But maybe someone can enlighten me or show me something I'm not aware of.

  • @MrKashes
    @MrKashes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would that mean that every thing animals insects and organisms have electric field they would have consciousness *Panpsychism* ?

    • @SteveSteve7590-di2dn
      @SteveSteve7590-di2dn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The vectorial electric field (consciousness) is considered the carrier of information but not the information itself. The output of a calculation is done by the neurons themselves (unguided, unintentional ofc) propagating the result bottom up in a heuristic abstract manner into consciousness which is produced by constructive interference of the EM waves of a set of neurons firing simultaneously.
      The substrate of animal brains consist of the same matter/ molecules as human brains therefore have consciousness but not necessarily self awareness.
      Consciousness is gradual and it has to exceed a certain threshold for an animal to be self-consciousness/ self aware.
      Panpsychism only would account for his theory if you’d claim the fact a photon having a EM field IS consciousness.

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating interview. Do wish the interviewer had asked Dr. McFadden about his thoughts on chi and acupuncture, and whether qi is the electric magnetic field he was talking about.

  • @FreeMind320
    @FreeMind320 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why should all particles across the entire brain have quantum properties to account for consciousness? And why on earth should the em field of the brain be equal to consciousness? So much confusion...

  • @theuniverse9338
    @theuniverse9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 51

  • @blacked2987
    @blacked2987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 07

  • @fieldandstream9362
    @fieldandstream9362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🇨🇭

  • @oneshot2028
    @oneshot2028 ปีที่แล้ว

    DL

  • @garyjjanb
    @garyjjanb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Consciousness is a physical phenomenon.' The explanations for the materialist worldview are so darn fuzzy. Is self-awareness then a magnetic field within a magnetic field? Quantum mechanics shows consciousness to be fundamental. The materialist paradigm is circular and has to rely on unverifiable magic like the Many Worlds interpretation.

  • @speedomars3869
    @speedomars3869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy is muddled. An EM field is a non quantum effect. Also, if the brain is producing and using an EM field how is it shielded from EM all around us in the atmosphere? Research has failed to show that EM around us affects us in any way. Plus, he is not exact in how he thinks protons in DNA are organized in a way that makes a sequenced code (the way amino acids do) or how specially the duality of particle/wave for photons produces the alleged 100% effect in photosynthesis.

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The double helix should be called the dual helix, the code of life is dual.
      Syntropy (prediction, projection) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics!
      Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy).
      Energy is duality, duality is energy
      Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy -- gravitational energy is dual.
      Electro is dual to magnetic -- electro-magnetic energy is dual.
      Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in projective duality.
      The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem.
      Making predictions to track targets, goals and objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
      "We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist.
      Predicting ourselves into existence is a syntropic process or a dual process to that of increasing entropy!
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      Duality (energy) creates reality.

    • @SteveSteve7590-di2dn
      @SteveSteve7590-di2dn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EM fields do effect us. And EN fields as a vector can be measured classically with an EEG.

  • @relaxisasinaturequran
    @relaxisasinaturequran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The simplicity. Why and how.. !! Why ? (Theology) and how ? (Science).

    • @momosaidnineisfine2194
      @momosaidnineisfine2194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Theology = war, deception and backwardness

    • @relaxisasinaturequran
      @relaxisasinaturequran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@momosaidnineisfine2194 wow.
      you insert theology in politics. Nice propaganda.

    • @thstroyur
      @thstroyur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@momosaidnineisfine2194 Yup - with the three or so centuries the West has maniacally been repeating that to itself, small wonder us lowly proles have no problem in uncritically swallowing that tripe like mindless cattle

  • @S.G.Wallner
    @S.G.Wallner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I keep hearing is... "And Quantum Mechanics may explain this." I'm not convinced, especially because Quantum Biology isn't that new, it's had about a decade to make some significant discoveries, and it hasn't. This is just another way to keep the reductionist materialist fantasy of explaining consciousness and life with some abstract quantifiable theory and set of algorithms.

    • @hyperduality2838
      @hyperduality2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reductionism (science) is dual to holism (religion).
      The double helix should be called the dual helix, the code of life is dual.
      Syntropy (prediction, projection) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics!
      Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy).
      Energy is duality, duality is energy
      Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy -- gravitational energy is dual.
      Electro is dual to magnetic -- electro-magnetic energy is dual.
      Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in projective duality.
      The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem.
      Making predictions to track targets, goals and objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
      "We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist.
      Predicting ourselves into existence is a syntropic process or a dual process to that of increasing entropy!
      "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
      Duality (energy) creates reality.

    • @JRichardson711
      @JRichardson711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Photosynthesis being quantum mechanical seems like a significant discovery?

    • @S.G.Wallner
      @S.G.Wallner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JRichardson711 if it is significant, if like to hear a convincing account of how photosynthesis is quantum mechanical. And in what sense is it quantum mechanical? I'm genuinely interested if a convincing account exists.

    • @robertflynn6686
      @robertflynn6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@S.G.Wallner the liquid crystal folding of proteins in nanotools, and leaf membranes, and others in photosynthesis is quantum effects. So is quantum spin in mri and on and on. Its expensive to make so avoided.

    • @robertwuest6340
      @robertwuest6340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As far as we know, everything is both quantum and relativistic. Everything!

  • @MS-od7je
    @MS-od7je 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flight came from the Wright brothers.
    Genetics via Gregor Mendel was unrecognized despite his presentation to 40 scientists, publishing twice and holding a lifelong correspondence with a leading scientist.
    Sir Arthur Evans would cancel your ability to be an academic as it was tantamount to not believing in science if one questioned that Linear A or B were anything but not Greek.
    Post French Revolution denounced historical text as pure myth but had to face Schliemann.
    The Urey-Miller experiment was missing something as an explanation as was brought to the fore non academically.
    ADHD as an advantage in hunter gatherers also was suggested outside of academia.
    While the concept of consciousness being electromagnetic is partially likely it is far from a true understanding of it.
    The instrument is not the note
    The orchestra is not the symphony
    The wires are not the electricity
    The brain is not the mind
    The universe is not the math
    I digress.
    Do please continue to try.
    However do not just think outside of the box. Appreciate that there is no box.
    Yes men are great for consolidating ideas but run against their collective Dunning -Kruger, Pareto effects.

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vaccine mandates are universal, along the lines of unquestionable kingship.