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ZACK BIRGE PENALTY/DQ????? WHO REALLY MADE THIS CALL🧐
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- There might be more to this situation than everyone realizes, and it's sad that it went down like this. I've always said we anglers should do things the right way and it seems like he did and still gets punished. What am I MISSING?????
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Heard Zach's also been criticizing MLF recently, so he's likely getting the James Watson treatment. #FBD
He did go on Luke Dunkin's podcast a after the Eufala win and I'm sure that hurt Boyd's feelings.
I watch this channel for a lot of reasons. The MAIN reason I watch this channel is that Todd always has "receipts" as they say. He never speaks out of pocket and always explains the why. Never says do this because I said it's right to that's the way it is because I said it's right. He always tells us why about every answer he gives us
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He runs around in circles but I’m right there with him. Todd you knows bass🎣
MLF has lost their integrity a long time ago. Wouldn't be surprised if a new circuit capitalized on their downfall.
They have the most integrity in the sport, and also the richest, just ask Boyd Duckett 🤥😶😐
We sure do not need another tournament circuit, there are too many already!!!!!!!
Fact is none of us were there and we're all commenting on here say. Way too much drama!
We all know who’s nut sack Boyd is on. MLF sucks!
@@Mjones8383😂😂😂👍👍
Zach has been calling MLF on their BS, so now he gets punished for it. Not a surprise, maybe he needs to wear a FBD hat at the next event.
Simple "it's time to leave" as Tod said. It's the anglers choice if he wants to knock the bark off afew heads on the way out. 😂
I guarantee you that if one of there ( MLF higher ups) favorites, that DQ of weight wouldn’t have happened
I was watching when Zach said he was pissed because they had called the boat official and he had already been told what he was doing was ok. Sure was suspicious how all of the sudden everything changed that quick. Zach was the only one really fishing the rest where scoping and he was wearing them out with the swim jig. Smells like FBD move to me. Pretty sorry if that’s how it went down. FBD is going to ruin those guys they better look who they strapped there livelihoods to.
And I don't think they ever showed him again on live after that 😊
They hid the whole thing Kenny made a short comment that was it. Typical FBD
If you look at who has won this year, having the same techniques & technology as last year, it makes you wonder what kind of rods they are using this season!
Also, what their relationship is with Sponsors, tournament organizers, covering networks & share holders! At some point and time you will start to consider what the odds of winning consecutive tournaments is against a stacked field. Then what measures can be taken to prevent whoever else is appearing as the clear winner against your interests! If you get my drift…
Point is, if you can’t beat Bass at the game then marketing the best angler in the world or multiple is a strong way to corner the market.
Getting rid of your insider threats is going to be a must along the way also….but what would I know 🤷🏻♂️
MLF seems to revolve around 2 anglers. One in my opinion is a habitual liar. The other who’s his bestie idk about.
Tonysmith can I ask a serious question? Only because I'm trying to catch up with alot I'm seeing n hearing with this sport I love.
Are those 2 people named #1 wheeler n a buddy named Connell if I spelled it right. I been a part of BASS for 45 yrs since I was 10. I have no respect for Mlf anglers in general for what went down in 2019 as I feel all those anglers who went to mlf turned their back on the organization that gave them their start and fame. No one liked how it went down. Thanks tony
Only thing I can think of is when you call the tournament director let them know you're recording the phone call for record that way they're forced to stand by their ruling... at least that way everyone can hear exactly what was said. I'm with you, I'd be pissed if this happened to me especially when theres this kind of money on the line. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
You know who made this call who else would have that much sway over the tournament director. #FBD
Boyd
Exactly because his ass isn’t good enough to be fishing on the last day but he was damn sure watching trying to find certain people doing something wrong FBD
As a tournament director, my first decision is what i ride with for that tournament. I can be proven wrong later or have a better decision. But once that decision is made in that moment its made. I lean towards what fair for everyone involved not just the angler asking and sometimes it pisses people off, but its the only way to be fair for everyone.
Mlf cut his feed before he could drop some bombs on live lol 😅
He’s not in the click
The Duckett Wheeler clique
4 minutes in and I still have no idea what he did.
Zack needs to take someone out behind the wood shed and get his money's worth. Maybe if he had a different rod sponsor. 🤔
Doesn't just get out on the bank, he got out and walked on a private dock to get a fish that he had hooked up on on the other side of the walkway.. I think we all know who we're talking about! He gets it back in the boat and I think he got an 8 to a 15-minute penalty.. then you got Adrian avena leaving the boat and swimming down to a brush pile to unhook a fish that is hung up in a brush pile, again a few minute penalty!! But Zack ask his official.. CAN I DO THIS THING? ,"yes you can".. he sinks his boat down a little bit to get under the bridge, never pushes it. Nothing! And then they take CATCHES away... Like WTF? Just another MLF circle jerk. But look who the ring leader is.. #FISHINGBOATDOCKS
Was what he did against the rules?Absolutely! TD was wrong. He made a mistake. Not sure why Zach asked to begin with. 18. COMPETITORS MUST REMAIN IN BOAT:
a. During the event days, MLF Anglers cannot leave the boat to make the boat more accessible to fishing waters.
Zach let his boat to take out the drain plug that would make the boat more accessible to fishing waters.
Very clear rules violation. TD and Assistant TD and anglers are supposed to know the rules.
@@tnbsfsher1 agreed but with an organization who's rules change like the outgoing tide how the hell are you supposed to know what's legal and what's not on any given day ... MLF IS A JOKE
I figured it out this morning Angel Hernandez is the MLF tournament director
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18. COMPETITORS MUST REMAIN IN BOAT:
a. During the event days, MLF Anglers cannot leave the boat to make the boat more accessible to fishing waters. If the boat becomes lodged while attempting to gain access into fishable water, the MLF angler can leave the boat without penalty to attempt to dislodge. If the angler does dislodge the boat (by pushing) into the area they were attempting to enter, they must immediately exit this area. The MLF angler can continue to attempt access into such area, however, if access is accomplished it must be done so while the angler was inside the boat.
We know what the rules are dickweed
Did you even watch the video? Why wasn’t it illegal and penalized when mark rose jumped in the lake to get a fish that was in the weeds?
@@Justin.Hawkins rule is pretty black and white. Should have known the rule I guess amigo. lol 👍🏻
@@FunkE.Fisherman so what’s the point of a tournament director then? If it was black and white, why would the tournament director ever have ok’d it? Maybe there was more to it than you think?? 🤔
@@Justin.Hawkins what’s the point of having an effing rule book than? Ffs brotha
“We The People”
“We The Anglers”
Seriously, to band together, is to make a footprint. So much selfishness. I really felt your energy at the end Todd. Tired‼️
P.S add tape recorder to pre ✅ list.
Fuck it Duckett
You’re 100% correct!
Spot on, because now everyone still has to wonder even if they call the TD will it stand? Will the TD say one thing now and another later? What is the sense in calling a TD if decision like that can happen. Make a call, right or wrong, you have to stick with it.
Great video Todd, TD should never back out on a decision they make
Zachs biggest crime was not being named Jacob Wheeler and being Boyds chosen one.
It was Floyd Buckets
Mike the assistant tourney director was in his boat the chief boating official lol
All the drama in tourney fishing now a days is becoming tiresome. I love to compete but damn it’s sucking out the fun. I don’t watch anything on TV anymore and only watch a 3 maybe 4 guys on YT. The rest are just salesmen. Guess I need to just keep to myself and go fish..
Agreed ✅
this was the first MLF tournament I watched. back to not watching. just watched it because I'm close to the chowan
Agreed. 👋🏻 from Beaumont area, (Lumberton)..
I think it's lawsuit material!
Todd thanks for your input on this topic. First I'm no longer a tournament angler but am a avid angler. Have no idea what is going on regarding MLF but seems like they are really giving our sport a black eye. If it is their idea of publicity is not working. Congratulations to you and Russell on your accomplishments. You made a smart choice on what trail you were fishing this year.
The PGA tour made it against the rules for viewers to call in for rule infractions. It added controversy that was unhealthy for the game. Instead, major events now have rules officials who monitor the video broadcast and resolve issues as they arise. These officials can also acquit players if they couldn't see an error with their own eyes or if they made a reasonable decision in the situation.
The director asked Zack if he had an electric drain plug, and Zack told him no. He would have to get out of the boat. The director then told him yes, he could do it. Zack even had the top boat official in his boat when he did it. MLF acknowledged their mistake and overturned the penalty and gave him his 7 fish back, along with his points and money.
When he talked to Luke Dunkin, I knew they'd go after him for sure
The BPT part of MLF is an absolute train wreck. I feel badly for Andy Morgan and Bryan Thrift, a couple of my favs, as they are on a sinking ship. Be careful, as you know the Toyotas are part of the MLF family.
😂😂😂😂 sinking ship … smh
Wow I would not have been happy.Thanks for the call Dang.
Congrats!!!! Wow the channel is really growing in subs!!
I guess they just forgot about Kieth poche getting out and pushing his boat all over the place during heavy hitters.
Curious what you do to cover your fishing tackle with insurance when it’s in your boat and in your house? Is it usually covered under home owners and also your boat policy?
Man I don't know how you kept for beating the crap out of that director, man I would have made sure he'd never want to be a director again! But as for Zack I watched it live, didn't seem he did anything wrong according to what JT Kenny was saying, that would definitely suck!🎣👍
If money is involved or boat prizes there will always be the citizen patrol watching because they can't catch em as good as you. Good video Todd.
I don't watch MLF anymore. And I don't know of one of my fishing buddies that watch it anymore. And all this drama is why I don't. #FBD
So true people change yours to better them self it always happens to the honest people glad you made this video
Spineless directors can sure screw you over.
You guys should put wakeboarding fat sacks in your boats so you can pump them full, Lower your boat down and then you can pump all the water back out.
They dq his fish after they posted it all over social media praising him for doing it. Make that make sense.
Hopefully we will get the entire story at some point. I will not hold my breath though. "Cough Cough" Boyd Duckett "Cough Cough"
BOOM Mic Drop!!!!!!
I'm predicting MLF will fold within 3 to 4 years. Poorly run.
one more year. after next season its done.
Exactly one year ago at Cayuga, it was "tournament director said it was Ok" after some pretty shady stuff went down.
That Strike King shirt is badass👍
The real question is, did he tell the TD he had to get out of the boat to remove the plug. IF he did tell the director that part AND the director said it was fine then someone needs to be sued. BUT if he didn't tell him he had to get out of the boat to remove plug then shame on Birge
It's CRAZZZY that they can go back on their direction, their word. They are supposed to be in charge and take responsibility for the calls they make.
that makes it an uncredible circus.....period
Why did he have to get out of the boat to pull the drain plug. Every boat including mine has the drain plug set up where you can pull it or put it back from the back compartment of the boat and never have to get out.
not all of them
I understand fully your thoughts. This sounds strange but it also applies in Law Enforcement. I am a retired State Trooper of 25 years. We put bad guys in jail and they would be walking the streets before we could get our paperwork done. Some Judges don't like cops. Most do but there are some that "twist" the Law and read it a different way. I never lost a case but have seen it first hand in the court room with other officers. I guess the Judges like State Police better than local police. I don't know. I felt bad for some of these officers as the facts in the case in a court room revealed that the guy was guilty of the crime charged with but the Judge let the Idiot off. A slap in the face to the Law and Law Enforcement Officers regardless what Agency the Officer was with. I love bass fishing and am old school. I helped direct Tournaments years ago. Back when you could only use a 150HP outboard motor in a Tournament. I caught one guy with a 150HP motor cowling but I checked the serial number on the motor and it was a 235HP Evinrude. That was a clear violation so I told them to get a different boat and come back which they did and everything was "jake". If the Marshall in the boat told Zach Birje he could do it then that settles it in my book. The argument would then be between that boat Judge and the Tournament Director. The angler should not get any penalty. PERIOD.
As much as I hate to say it, MLF tournaments are MUCH more interesting to watch than BASS tournaments are. I'm sure you're right about the drama going on.
Todd, I think you got a worst punishment than Zack did. I feel for you. I would have been still mad.
I can't stand spineless tournament directors. Makes my blood boil listening to your story.
they are liars in both cases......nobody likes a liar ...and what they did was illegal in both cases
#FBD
Those darn flip chickens always calling on BPT rules violations
My understanding was he asked permission to pull his drain plug to get under a bridge, but did not ask to get out of the boat to pull his drain plug. He was given permission to pull the plug. Never got permission to leave the boat. Crazy ... many boats still have the old style plug. But since he didnt get permission to "leave the boat", was penalized. Not sure if that is right of course . Seems like he sorta got set up though.
No,the tournament director asked him if it was a remote drain plug and he said no it’s a regular drain plug that you take out manually,tournament director knew he’d have to get in the water to take it out
@@ronaldcox2741 like I said. I don't know for sure
Maybe you do.
No one likes a 🚔👀 ** Cop caller **😮😮
I’m so glad you brought this up. This makes me feel a lot better about the time You guys all got mad at me for asking the tournament Director about walking the banks. 💙
When I asked him about it, he said it was because of people staying at houses with boat docks. Walking marinas after the meeting looking for bedding fish “practicing” is a bit different. You got permission I’ll give you that I’m just wondering how the conversation went.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 “hey, it’s Billy. I know we aren’t supposed to be on the water after a certain time, does that also mean we can’t walk the banks?”, TD- “will you be in a boat on the water?”, me- “no”. TD- “Then you aren’t on the water and it is allowed”. Then Proceeds to announce it to EVERYONE on the meeting that it is ok to do so.
I took a cussing from JB that I shouldn’t have and I’m still upset about, as it was very disrespectful for someone to do, especially to a so called “friend”. You asked me at the ramp and I told you the exact same thing. I guess being “friendly” doesn’t come with benefit of the doubt, or at least a friendly phone call.
I didn’t say a word to you, I called the TR immediately and said it was wrong. It’s always been wrong, no one else asked because for years we’ve been told not too. Guys have been DQd for that in the past. You might not have known but that’s why I didn’t say anything to you.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 we literally had a conversation at the ramp. You asked me what I was doing and I told you the same sequence above.
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 I doubt anyone else had thought to ask about removing their drain plug either, before then. It’s kind of the same thing. I asked. Everyone else lost their mind. Even though you thought it was wrong, did you do it on the day we were postponed?
What was explained is the Tournament Director did not know ZB had to get out of his boat to physically remove the plug in his boat and this is what caused the infraction. If the question was can I remove my plug and not can I get out of the boat to remove the plug then that’s where the problem happened. Lots of boats do not require us to get out of the boat to remove the plug now. So we would need to know the wording of the question to the tournament director
Thanks.
Most likely Duckett screwing up things as usual! Too many people have Ducketts happening to them!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The MLF is the WWE of the bass fishing world. It's so absurd that it has to be scripted.
Yep, Zack got ripped off and so did you guys. A boat is a hard pill to swallow. Todd, probably okay by code, but I think I'd put some kind of insulator between the wires running over top of your metal wall. A short piece of automotive heater hose would work.
Them penalizing birdge is dumb and sounds fishy to me. Sounds like they are punishing him for other reasons we don't know about. I gurantee you if that was jacob or Dustin they wouldn't have gotten the punishment. I'll bet that on the farm too. Mlf seems shady as hell to me lately with the favoritism. I also heard a failed poly was a 1k fine. An angler was asked about getting way points prior to day 1 and he failed. They fined him 1k. Seems fishy to me
It’s just a matter of time for the MLF. When Johnny’s gone, they’re gone.
I’m mad for you Todd. You got jobbed. Sorry man. If Birge did everything right he needs to put MLF on blast. Thanks for posting this.
Castledine = AOY
Well said.
Did Todd get a new shop to do videos in or did he get kicked out of sofa. Lol
Both😂
I appreciate the video and was a few minutes in and it dawned on me that I really don’t care about this 😂.
A little off topic but who did your electrical work bro? That ain't right brotha! 😂
Tournament fishing is a real shit show right now. You can’t have pansies running the show either. I’ve been fishing tournaments for 30 yrs and I’ve never seen the horse crap that’s going on. The number one killer of the game is technology, all the way from cell phones to big screen tv’s on the front deck. In my opinion if you leave your boat unless it’s an emergency your disqualified. Period!!!
Between stupid calls like this and the use of live scope,I don’t watch pro tournaments anymore.
This Tournament game is wild..
Seems like it should be cut and dry. If the tournament director said you can do it. Then it’s done. If he finds out or decides later “ I should have told him no you can’t do that “ to late for this tournament, he can make the change on the next one. This is just one of the many reasons I don’t watch MLF anymore.
sounds like there needs to be a digital written handbook that every angler can refer to instead of reaching out and asking a tournament director. Second there need to be other processes added so there is less ambiguity and more than one set of eyes can see. I have a few ideas that can eliminate all of these issues. However, we know how people are. They dont want solutions, they just want to complain.
hell Keith poche ask the official jumped on a dock got his fish jumped in water got back in the boat and took a 9 min penalty for a 5 or 6 lber. been a couple of years or so
Hitting the slomo for the walk off was hard af
MLF is a flipping joke!
Bass fishing needs a union
Sounds like all the conversations should be recorded. If your given the green light by the director then you would have proof. Especially when your talking about thousands of dollars.
Definitely #FBD behind that call.
Maybe the callers initials are B D?
Heard how much you love FFS 😅😅🤣 jk bro love your channel!!
If that had happened to me. The next time I called. I would have the TD to call the person that will over ride him and make sure it didn’t happen again.
Just seeing where MLF has reversed the penalty.
Russell wasn’t fishing the whole time Wtf no advantage there👍
If MLF is corrupt, maybe a new organization, similar to what happened in professional golf recently.
BOYCOTT BOYD DUCKETT!!!FREE JMFW!!!FBD!I hate that for Zack!He’s a really good dude.I fished against him years ago.
To me it’s a shame that MLF has ruined a good thing! The Duckett F-ery in full effect!
Probably the golden boy, Jacob Wheeler
Penalty was reversed. Please post an updated video
Oh I will😂
It's like a Promise stick to it.
fact
if the TD told him it was ok
then that's 100% wrong on the TD
sad really sad
but rules needs to be black and white
no grey area
but that's hard to make sure no Grey area
Boyd is the downfall.
#freezach