Whine mod test on 2018 LGX Supercharged V6 Camaro. (Eaton 1.7L Supercharger)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2020
- I had to figure out the kinks that were going on with my Foster S/C Whine Mod kit. Turns out the tube was crushed against the airbox and preventing proper resonance and impeller pulses to pass through.
I may have a tiny supercharger, but it's still making power!
This set up is an E-Force 1.7L Supercharger, upgraded to a 3.25" pully making 8lbs of boost. (Stock is equipped 3.50" pully 6lbs of boost)
Also I know I sound like an idiot. Excuse me, I don't make videos often enough - เกม
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Keep posting more sound vids 😋 I think I’m about 2 more videos till I purchase this because of the whine sound
Very nice! I have been looking at the Edelbrock kit myself.
From Reddit looking for the negative E-Force videos buddy , car sounds good I’ll sub to keep up 👍🏼
Got to love Camaros
So I saw in the comments you have the 3.25 pulley instead and I was wondering if that’s the only thing you need to run more psi? Also how much whp you think it is with the edelbrock supercharger and the 3.25 pulley everything else stock
If you get a really conservative tune, don't change anything else, and just put the supercharger + the 8psi pully, you're going to be in the 350~WHP(4th gear pull on the A8 trans) ballpark. You can push for more, but you may be risking spark knock which could lead to failure under hard loads.
The only way to build more PSI is to spin the supercharger faster, so you have smaller pully's to do that. Every .25 of an inch is about 2PSI more pressure.
I have gotten cattless downpipes since this video, and with just that change, plus a tune adjustment I picked up over 30WHP. I'm sitting at about 400 right now, and close to 500 at the crank, and my tune is far from spicy.
@@Z51MAELSTROM I just ordered the pulley, so if I run just 6psi with stock pulley instead how much whp and have you dyne your car yet?
@@v6cuhhmaro419 I've dyno'd my car, and I was at 383WHP in 4th, so that translates to about 395 at a 1:1(6th gear) pull.
Stock pully? Expect like 330-340 depending on who tunes your car. 350~ on 8psi if you don't change the stock cats, they're a huge restriction. You can obviously ask the tuner for more power, but you start to run the risk of your EGT's getting too hot and causing detonation, that's bad.
If you want cheap boost pistons, grab some for the LGZ engine. Has lower compression pistons
What are the numbers?
Was wondering if you still have the cylinder deactivation feature? Also what are you MPG numbers looking like? I have the same car just not supercharger and am curious
So, you lose the cylinder deactivation, first off. However, the S/C has a bypass valve on it that is operated via vacuum. If I was consistently gentle on the throttle (Which when you have a whine mod and love feeling the pull and hearing it cry) I could easily hit 22.5-23+MPG still.
I'm normally closer to 20 cause...I like getting on it.
Did you do anything to the transmission to be able to support the new power from the super charger?
Do you know if the supercharger would mount onto an LGX engine that's transversally mounted?
It should, no problem. You should ask a local mechanic/speed shop first to be sure, but the kit wouldn't change, just the angle of everything, but again, that shouldn't matter.
Are you using the edelbrock tune? I’m going to order the same supercharger but have heard bad thing about their tune
@malcom did get the supercharger I’m thinking about getting it but looking for feedback on it
It’s a great kit very easy to install nothing to hard I would agree that the Edelbrock tune is very conservative I think they run it to lean for emission it may be worth it to have someone tune it but find a good tuner and ask them to keep the engine as safe as possible if you go to aggressive you can damage the engine, sometimes I get hesitation I think am gonna have someone tune mine to smooth it out
What would you say this costed?
Hey man. I’m running same supercharger but I want that pulley and Im actually running the EdelBrock tune because it was on sale at the time. I’m planning on getting it retuned soon because it runs real rich and actually burned out the OE cats so I have exhaust to repair lol. I was curious though, what downpipes do you have and what belt are you running with the newer pulley?
I just have a normal 6 rib belt, I forgot the length but if you call up Summit racing they might be able to help, worst case your local shop can figure that out.
It's a 3.25" pully for 2 more pounds of boost, and they are "American Racing Headers Cattless down pipes" You might have to check a few stores cause not all of them offer the no cats option.
@@Z51MAELSTROM thanks for that info. Helps a lot and I can’t wait to get this thing tuned professionally after those mods. I can attest that the tune from edelbrock is terrible. If anyone needed to hear it, I will tell you. The tune has so many issues. Running rich(17mpg as a side effect and cats burned up and clogged at one point), stuttering, random misfires.... take it from me, the supercharger is great but the tune is terrible.
Side question, have you looked into changing out your differential with the diff from the manual LT’s??
@@modern4ssassin272 I have but sourcing either a 4Cyl manual, or a LT manual rear end isn't easy where I live. It would give you posi and a bigger rear gear for more off the line action, but unless you're dig racing or proper drag racing it doesn't make a huge difference. For 40-60 rolls the 8A rear gear is plenty.
Did you ever get the smaller pully bro? If so did you need a new tune?
“Ok so my whine mod works I just have a tiny fucking supercharger” idk why that was funny 😂
Cause it's true. A 1.7L S/C is small compared to the 2-3L+ range ones that are typically used and installed.
@@Z51MAELSTROMon v8’s😂😂 for a v6 this supercharger is almost half of the size of THIS engine😂
I was just curious as to why you put your turn signal on pulling out your driveway? 😂
A good habit to have, I use my turn signals for all turns.
I was wondering can you link and show where you got the “whine mod kit from” I had a V6 Camaro and got rid of it in search of something with better power but now I’m just think it would be cool to supercharge it
I warn you now that I no longer own the camaro. It's not worth it. There aren't enough supporting mods for the supercharger once you do it. If you wanna break 400WHP safely, a water-meth kit is more or less mandatory.
The LGX has no headers, so you can't do a header job. There are no cam kits, and supposedly only one person makes pistons and rods for it on instagram or twitter. It's outrageously priced as well. No heads either. If you're happy to do stock boost and just have a little extra kick sure. It's cool. If you want to actually seek power and speed, buy an SS or anything else with a V8.
@@Z51MAELSTROM What do you mean by do a stock boost? Also can you add whine kit without supercharging your car?
@@IncitableStock boost means, the supercharger kit comes with a pulley that produces 6PSI of boost. A smaller pulley means more boost.
And no, you need the supercharger, that produces the whine. One requires the other. Without a supercharger you have no supercharger whine to pump into the cabin.
Hey what your ig? I have a few questions
I don't really use insagram at all. You can ask them here and I'll reply.
How much power are you making
@@mygamming42 About 460 crank, 360~ wheel. There is lots of room for growth. I need a full exhaust system, and fueling to jump up closer to like 425 wheel.
So that little sound tube makes more whine??
Yes, that's exactly why I installed it. My car went from basically zero ability to hear the whine, to what you hear. You can even hear it with the windows down. It's not constant or obnoxious.
Where did you buy the 3.25 pulley?
You can get it from Edelbrock if it's in stock, but I got mine from Summitracing as they had them in stock at the time. You just need a "3.25 inch 6-rib pully for edelborck supercharger"
@@Z51MAELSTROM Where did you get the belt to fit the smaller pully and what size would I need?
@@Z51MAELSTROM ??
Hey do you have a product link to the whine mod
Here ya go
www.fosterscmods.com/oem-tvs-camaro-zl1-2016-2017-kits/
I want one so I can do twin turbos and feed the boost into the blower
Have you done it?
What’s your best 0-60?
Somewhere in the mid to high 4's because currently, the transmission slips and the tires spin bad.
Have u got it tuned yet
I got cattless downpipes, and a better tune. I'm running even healthier than last time
Hey Bro just ordered 2 days ago can’t we get an outside the car Supercharger sound
So you won't get an outside the car whine sound. This isn't a giant hellcat supercharger.
The whine mod adds IN-CABIN sound so you can hear the whine.
@@Z51MAELSTROM sounds good are you running a CAI with it
@@lethal_chevy5442 I am not. I still have a stock intake.
@@Z51MAELSTROM I heard it makes a big difference I am going to run my 4 inch Intake with my supercharger
@@lethal_chevy5442 A CAI makes...basically no difference at all. Even in a forced induction set up, unless you are running a bigger throttle body, it won't really help with performance.
You might get more noise with the whine mod, and maybe both in-cabin, and outside? But personally I just want the inside noise, so I am a 100% sleeper. I want a 5.0 to bully me and then get slammed. I want an SS or 392 scatpack to bully me and get shit on. If they hear the whine they gonna know something is up.
I have the same supercharger on my v6 Camaro what makes your’s wine because mine doesn’t wine at all I found a way to install the stock sound tube but still no wine was it the smaller pulley ??
I'm not sure if the smaller pully would make that much of a different, though the supercharger is now spinning faster.
You need to go to Foster, and buy this kit. I have the stock Airbox, and installed this with their directions, and got the results you see.
www.fosterscmods.com/product/new-sku-332/
King Orthocone yes sir I already got the kit and installed it am getting wine now am very happy with it foster was very helpful just like you said in your video
@@kj3313 I wonder if the smaller pully makes me generate different and or louder tones than you.
King Orthocone I know from experience the smaller the pulley the more wine you will get I am running the same pulley your running right now am debating on going with a 3 inch pulley it should put it around 10 pounds of boost but I don’t want to go to crazy tho
@@kj3313 To be honest, your tuner won't tell you to do the 10lb+ pulley, unless you're willing to do E85 and other means of cooling. That or a WaterMeth injection. If you don't, and you are on 93 pump gas on a 10lb pulley you seriously run the risk of Spark Knock, or melting a piston ring, your EGT's will skyrocket.
If you don't give a shit, send it and make some videos. Let me know the long term. My tuner won't let me run that pulley unless I swap to Water Meth injection, and I don't wanna do that. I also have a 2.75 for 12lbs but that's for later.
Who does my v6 makes this sound when I accelerate fast , like when I floor it
What?
@@Z51MAELSTROM I asked do you have any idea why my camaro makes the whining sound when I floor it , like when I punch it you hear the whining sound..been doing it since I got it , and the check engine light isn’t on so not sure if it’s pertaining to the motor , I bought it 2nd hand,,,and I know it doesn’t have a super charger in it lol..just curious about the whining sound
@@reddymaid7936 Absolutely no idea, it cant be the same noise. It could be an issue with the intake or the transmission. I'm not a mechanic, I'd get it checked out.
what is the smallest pulley you can run on these?
That is entirely up to how far you want to push it. 3.00" gets you to 10 PSI and at that point you better start considering a water-meth mix unless you've upgraded the heads, pistons and rods. That is at least what my tuner suggested for reliability. You can also go a step, even further beyond to a 2.75" for 12psi, or a 2.67 for 13lbs, but the S/C is really only rated up to around 10. It could take 12 though.
@@Z51MAELSTROM that's perfect. I haven't been chasing the scene for these motors in awhile. Is there still no legit port job for the LFX heads or has that changed? Nothing really came up on a Google search of the forums.
@@nolaughing5087 You're confusing the LFX with the LGX. They are entirely two different motors. All of this related to the LGX, in the 2016+ Gen 6 V6 camaros.
HOW MUCH horsepower you gain and how much did it set you back in parts and labor?
Went from 335 crank to 485 crank for about 7k for everything done. Could have been a little cheaper had I done all of it all at once.
Where did u get the supercharger
From edlebrock
Thanks man I saw ur video and it help alot are u running any stand alone ecu or hp tuner
@@kyleloveland2344 It's just an HP tuners, tune, that was made by my local shop. It's going to be modified and improved next week as I'm getting catless downpipes.
Hey are you running a boost gauge
I am not but when I've been on the dyno I peak around 8PSI
@@Z51MAELSTROM okay 👍🏻 I just am trying to see cuz I need to find a line to tie into for my methanol injection kit it needs to reed boost but can’t find anything on where to tie my vacuum/boost line into on the car
@@lethal_chevy5442 Contact Edelbrock or Eaton, and ask them about the blower and where to attach boost. Ask for pictures.
@@Z51MAELSTROM yeah that’s what I was probably going to do once it arrives it supposed to ship out from edelbrock hopefully tomorrow
@@Z51MAELSTROM hey bro could you do me a quick favor they said behind the blower there is a port for the boost line I don’t have mine yet could you check to see if there is
I understand that this engine fails to make the power of the 3.6 Pentastar V6 with the Vortec Ripp Kit. They typically make about 440 to the tires at lower boost levels.
Yes they are very different engines, and while the 3.6L from chevy is a very efficient and great design for what it gives stock. It's about as terrible a design as is physically possible for boosting.
thats bull ive ownes the 3.6 penistar, and 5.7 hemi both in challenger form and my current 2022 camaro 3.6 10A would walk away from either of the mopars
Dude I love it! Does it feel like a big difference compared to factory? I have the same car as you and I want to do it to mine bad, and how much did it cost you? Cool vid
Stock, the car felt nice. The kit from Edelbrock is a really good value, however I highly suggest you buy it WITHOUT the tune, as that's $500 extra.
I went from like 260WHP -> 350 with the blower, and tune. It made a significant difference and for the $5k pricetag, plus 1k install, it's nice. However, if you're going to do it. Learn from my mistakes.
1) Buy it without the tune, and you're already ahead.
2) Also buy a 3.25"(6 rib competition) pully, so you go from 6PSI to 8PSI.
3) Buy "American Racing Headers" CATLESS, downpipes for the LGX V6. (2016-2020+). They're pretty cheap, and not only give you a more aggressive tone, they freed up my IAT's allowing my shop to add timing. This was a MAJOR improvement. I got every bit of 30WHP for just doing that. I still have the stock NPP dual-mode exhaust from the secondary cats back.
Those 3 things, you'll get about 383WHP, where I am at now, which is well into LT1 territory. If you have 93(I only have 92) you'll be a little healthier, and depending on how aggressive you want to go with the tune, you can get more. My tune is very conservative and fat, cause my shop knows it's a daily.
@@Z51MAELSTROM doesn't an lt1 have around 450hp??
@@thein1990 That's to the crank. It's more like 460 crank, but there is what is called "drivetrain loss." When I say "WHP" that means what I'm actually putting down to the wheels. Wheel Horsepower.
An LT1 puts down about 360-380 to the wheels, depending in a verity of factors. So my 383WHP is about 480 crank Horsepower due to my calculated drivetrain loss.
@@Z51MAELSTROM whats the 0-60 time on the car
@@rockfire9799 It's hard to say the real number for 2 reasons. I need better tires as with the summer only I spin really bad in first gear. Secondly I haven't been able to test it due to rain since I added the downpipes and better tune.
In a realist scenario? 4.6 - 4.7sec is a good estimate judging by what I'm getting with wheel spin.
You want more whine you need an air intake
would this fit on lfx?
Probably not, you'd need to check Edelbrock's website, I believe Chevy stopped using the LFX in 2016 and newer Camaro's, and Edelbrock's kit is for 2016+ Camaro's.
You'd probably have to go with a centrifugal supercharger(procharger, vortec, paxton etc) or turbo kit.
@@Z51MAELSTROM aaah okay. Thanks for info. I've already got the vortech v3 running 13psi making 427hp... have you driven with both setups ? Which is better to you?
@@calvinchoe100 I have not. I only have had this car and the one supercharger set up. I've got a new series of races coming up in the next vid.
Wait... you’re in Hawaii!?!!!? Me too :)
I doubt you are on the big island.
@@Z51MAELSTROM ah darn it... yeah I’m on Oahu
@@shfla7293 I'm selling the car if you're interested in any details. I've got it in a few FB marketplace things. Hit me up.
@@Z51MAELSTROM i wish man, I’m a broke student 😂 thx so much for the offer tho! Just saw it on Craigslist today and I was like “THIS CAR LOOKS SO FAMILIAR”
@@shfla7293 Let your friends know. I'll give them a good deal, shipping included.
How much boost can you run with these engines already being high compression
8-10psi a little more if you want to do water-meth.
So what’s the HP
It was 490, or 390 to the wheels.
Gonna have a big announcement for this channel coming soon.
@@Z51MAELSTROM nice
A baby zl1
How much HP its making??
Around 470.
Sounds like a gtr
Video starts at 3:03 unless you want to watch a bunch of jabber and buddy driving with cruise control on.
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