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he could have just kept developing pieces that weren't attacking anything instead of blundering everything. This looks like a paid actor if you ask me.
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@@cristobalgauthier692 I guess it was just a misunderstanding of the drawback.
From the way opponent played, I thought his drawback was something like "you have to capture pawns if a certain [unknown 2nd condition] happens" since his blunders came from capturing pawns
@@NWRIBronco6 nope, it would be extremely easy to win... The drawback was as long as you have pawns. All he would have to do is sacrifice or promote all his remaining pawns and he would win. To do this he could even sacrifice his knights and rooks for opponent pawns
I think with this drawback optimal play is just trade/sacrifice all pawns and play normaly, because after last pawn died, you dont have drawback anymore.
I think optimal play would be play super defensively, since defense isn't as affected. Hope your opponent is aggressive and blunders their attack, allowing you to have some free pieces to sac to push pawns
Pretty sure it's an automatic loss once you cannot follow with your drawback, so in this case if he did sac all his pawns the site would just give simp a loss
@@brainha5747 Nope, it's specified in the drawback: "As long as you have pawns, [restriction]", so no pawn means no restriction If there is an additional loss situation, it is explicitly written ^^
@@drawmanbr7008 Drawback said you can't make non-capturing moves with pieces that could capture. The opponent should be able to prevent that sort of situation most of the time, by always having at least one piece that can't capture anything.
Actually despite your opponent drawback is easier, but it play right into the benefit of your drawback that you have to play it passively, he had to concerntrate enough force to break your defense, but he can't because of his drawback and have to do many bad trade.
1:51 I think their thought process there was that by capturing that pawn you wouldn't be allowed to capture back, since all other pawns would be behind that line, misunderstanding the fact that the pawns themselves are not bound by the drawback. That or they completely misunderstood their own drawback and thought that they had take if they could take with one of their pieces.
The worse drawback to reveal would probably be something like "as long as you have a knight, you can only capture with knights." I played someone who revealed that drawback to me. Even after I revealed my own the game lasted barely 8 moves before I slapped my queen next to his king.
worst drawback to reveal is "if at any point your king would be in check on an open board you lose", simp got that one in one of the early videos if i'm not mistaken
@@stevenglikin3219 I forgot about Homeland Security! If your opponent moves a piece into your starting 16 squares, you lose. I analyzed it a bit, and unless your opponent has a very restrictive drawback, you won't see move 4
It seemed pretty likely half-way in that the opponent HAD to capture if he could. That's definitely something to work with! can't ever forget that the opponent has drawbacks, too!
I am fairly high rated for drawback chess, so I constantly get these insane drawbacks... Like "each move you can only move to a black OR white square... randomized each turn (like wtf) Or "you can't move your rooks. If you lose both your rooks, you lose" Or "Medusa: whatever the queen is looking at can't move!" wtf... try defending a queen with just your knights... Some of these you can only win if you assume best play (without drawbacks) of the opponent... Which is honestly the biggest hurdle in all of this :'D
Judging by the wording of the drawback, would a viable strategy be to sacrifice all of the pawns? It sounds like the moment you lose all of your pawns, you can move freely. I would think being down a few points in material is worth getting rid of the drawback. (of course if your opponent knows the drawback, I think they would purposefully not take the last pawn, but that might also be usable to your advantage as the final pawn would basically be untouchable)
That would be the play but the opponent saw his drawback. He was actually playing around it and would have made sure to keep 1 pawn alive. The opponent only lost because his drawback was hard to win with against a defensive opponent
At first I thought it would make sense to develop in a Pirc or Modern style of opening, slowly gaining space with your pawns. But then the game would be slowed down a lot because typical outbreaks wouldn't be possible giving black no chance to exploit mistakes by white. So in the end Simp chose a fine way to open the game, shame he had doubled blocked pawns in the centre
A challenge for you: Explain how it is 200% winrate without using the word "Asian", "Asia" or similar words. Edit: also, you are not allowed to say "Terrence Howard" or something similar
@@3141minecraft An actor that was on Joe Rogan recently. He's in a weird conspiracy land and believes that 1*1=2 and Big Math just doesn't want to admit it.
I played against this drawback once. My opponent spent his first two moves on pushing the a pawn, which has made me suspicious. I quickly worked out what his drawback is and trapped all his remaining pieces on first 3 ranks. But I forgot about the AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PAWN part, I captured his last pawn and then lost my queen 🙃
50-move draw is going to be hard to beat with this drawback no matter what the materiel advantage. You can only attack the opponent's back line with pawns, and promotion is mandatory.
The key to winning would be to lose all pawns, which in this specific case would have been quite possible because of the opponents drawback. It would have seemed hard while doing it and then surprisingly easy in retrospect, I believe.
@@Alresu Because if the opponent doesn't have a drawback that you can use to force them to take, the opponent would just deliberately not take your pawn and then you're fucked. Remember, Simp has revealed the drawback, so you'd be an idiot to take his last pawn willingly.
@@TheSandvichTrials Absolutely. But if they have to block it also makes it harder for them to attack. In this case Simp was worried about the opponents pawns but since the opponent could not just take all of his pawns without ending the draw back, there would have been a plan of attack. I will not claim it would be easy. But it's a strategy.
I had the opposite of this drawback in my first drawback game ever, where i could move a piece ahead of my most advanced pawn and my opponent figured it out. Needless to say I was butchered
I figured the opp's drawback out by the middle of the game. It was too convenient with his play pattern It made me predict that knight capturing the pawn in front of the king move
I have to ask, wouldn't it be impossible to win without sacrificing all the pawns? You can't take a pawn to the other edge of the board since it'll promote, and since in drawback chess you have to physically capture the king, he can just stay on the last rank and be invulnerable (unless you checkmate and capture with a pawn maybe?). I'm guessing your plan was to promote them all? Or did you interpret the rules differently? I think the optimal play would have been to sacrifice them since you had material advantage, but I don't know, I'm NOT a cOwaRD so I can't know your thought process. Nice video as always.
@@Moleoflands there's no checkmate, you have to capture the king. so not only do you need to "checkmate" with a pawn, it has to be in such a way that all possible escape squares on the 8th rank are covered by pawns.
you don't necisarily need to "sacrifice" (in the sense that you give them away). a piece can exist on the 8th rank , it just can't move until all pawns are gone. so you could also win by just promoting all of your pawns.
Probably can go back, as long as there's another pawn at the same rank as the horse when it landed. The challenge only limits where can you move to, not where you can move from.
I play drawback chess, current ELO on the site is 1650 and I get impossible challenges half my games. I do not know how Simp gets so many players who don't even know how to play chess like his opponent obviously didn't. I've rarely seen players this bad when I play on this site,
@@Moleoflands what I mean is I don't see why he was fighting against f4 at 5:00 for example, it could have been huge progress for him. or why he was so pessimistic about queenside pawns fighting against each other. besides, he only needed to sacrifice one of his extra pieces on d5 or f5 to unclog his doubled pawns. he was up two knights and a rook, or two knights and two rooks at some point. i think he just didn't realize his drawback would vanish once all of his pawns were dead. it really wasn't that difficult to make progress in his situation, make tiniest sacrifices and either push your pawns forward or get them captured.
@@rohan1864 yeah but the opponent could just decide to not take the pawns and limit mobility, he could have just captured every pawn except the doubled pawns and there would be no way to win
"Absolutely impossible." *hurriedly into phone* Look, I'm tellin' ya, put it all on Simp to win! Have a little faith, buddy!" *SPOILER GUARD* *After watching, calmly adjusts new monocle and top hat*
Sometimes I forget that in drawback chess the opponent also has a drawback
You aren't trying to guess it? It's its own mini-challenge
Cuz we used to watch 100-rated games where only Simp had a drawback
Oh so that's why the opponent was making constant blunders that seemed way too nonsensical to actually be low ELO blunders
he could have just kept developing pieces that weren't attacking anything instead of blundering everything. This looks like a paid actor if you ask me.
@@cristobalgauthier692 I guess it was just a misunderstanding of the drawback.
I thought at first that he could only attack pieces that had just moved or something.
From the way opponent played, I thought his drawback was something like "you have to capture pawns if a certain [unknown 2nd condition] happens" since his blunders came from capturing pawns
I was wondering why they kept going for trades. Usually trades don't happen that often.
The opponent's drawback was such a perfect match-up. All-out offense versus all-out defense.
Simp : "Absolutely impossible"
Me : "Ah, so completely possible"
Unless Simp's internet mysteriously crashes
I mean, it was actually impossible to win if opponent played correctly as described in the video...
@@enderyu that would be most unfortunate
@@NWRIBronco6 nope, it would be extremely easy to win... The drawback was as long as you have pawns. All he would have to do is sacrifice or promote all his remaining pawns and he would win. To do this he could even sacrifice his knights and rooks for opponent pawns
I think with this drawback optimal play is just trade/sacrifice all pawns and play normaly, because after last pawn died, you dont have drawback anymore.
No cuz the opponent can simply refuse to take your most backwards blocked pawn and completely neutralize you
I think optimal play would be play super defensively, since defense isn't as affected. Hope your opponent is aggressive and blunders their attack, allowing you to have some free pieces to sac to push pawns
Pretty sure it's an automatic loss once you cannot follow with your drawback, so in this case if he did sac all his pawns the site would just give simp a loss
@@brainha5747 Nope, it's specified in the drawback: "As long as you have pawns, [restriction]", so no pawn means no restriction
If there is an additional loss situation, it is explicitly written ^^
@@brainha5747 drawback specifically states “as long as you have a pawn”
People seem to not be reading the opening of the drawback saying "As long as you have a pawn" meaning once you have no pawns, you have no drawback
That sounds like something a coward would do
The opponent can also read it and chose not to take anything
@@locoludwin3228 well, not in this case due to the opponents drawback. But that was only discovered in the end
Yer, so the opponent can just not take all the pawns. Thus the possible stun lock.
@@drawmanbr7008 Drawback said you can't make non-capturing moves with pieces that could capture.
The opponent should be able to prevent that sort of situation most of the time, by always having at least one piece that can't capture anything.
Im proud of myself for actually figuring it out opponent's drawback
Actually despite your opponent drawback is easier, but it play right into the benefit of your drawback that you have to play it passively, he had to concerntrate enough force to break your defense, but he can't because of his drawback and have to do many bad trade.
tbf he did choose an offensive tactic with lots of possible trades.
while cant decline a trade. bruh.
1:51 I think their thought process there was that by capturing that pawn you wouldn't be allowed to capture back, since all other pawns would be behind that line, misunderstanding the fact that the pawns themselves are not bound by the drawback. That or they completely misunderstood their own drawback and thought that they had take if they could take with one of their pieces.
The worse drawback to reveal would probably be something like "as long as you have a knight, you can only capture with knights." I played someone who revealed that drawback to me. Even after I revealed my own the game lasted barely 8 moves before I slapped my queen next to his king.
I've won that drawback every time, far from the worst
@@jeremyready8030 Worst to reveal, not worst to play.
worst drawback to reveal is "if at any point your king would be in check on an open board you lose", simp got that one in one of the early videos if i'm not mistaken
@@stevenglikin3219 I forgot about Homeland Security! If your opponent moves a piece into your starting 16 squares, you lose. I analyzed it a bit, and unless your opponent has a very restrictive drawback, you won't see move 4
worst to reveal is "you must move at least as far as you opponents last move". e4 qh5 qxf7 qxe8#, absolutely nothing your opponent can do abt it
It seemed pretty likely half-way in that the opponent HAD to capture if he could. That's definitely something to work with! can't ever forget that the opponent has drawbacks, too!
This drawback feels almost impossible. In order to win, you'd either have to lose all your pawns, or take the king with a pawn
Is it legal to promote a pawn to a pawn? (My guess is no)
Why? Get rid of your pawns and you have a free game.
@@DrZaius3141 that's entirely dependent on whether the opponent takes your pawns or not, unless you force them by checking them with a pawn
I am fairly high rated for drawback chess, so I constantly get these insane drawbacks...
Like "each move you can only move to a black OR white square... randomized each turn (like wtf)
Or "you can't move your rooks. If you lose both your rooks, you lose"
Or "Medusa: whatever the queen is looking at can't move!" wtf... try defending a queen with just your knights...
Some of these you can only win if you assume best play (without drawbacks) of the opponent...
Which is honestly the biggest hurdle in all of this :'D
Judging by the wording of the drawback, would a viable strategy be to sacrifice all of the pawns? It sounds like the moment you lose all of your pawns, you can move freely. I would think being down a few points in material is worth getting rid of the drawback. (of course if your opponent knows the drawback, I think they would purposefully not take the last pawn, but that might also be usable to your advantage as the final pawn would basically be untouchable)
An untouchable pawn just defines the size of your prison. You need the final pawn to be a passed pawn, and that's very easy to prevent.
Simp is trying to fool us, neither the drawback nor final position were absolutely impossible.
...Just trade off all your pawns? Then no drawback?
The opponent normally wouldn't have to take the pawn, and even with that drawback they can just block the remaining pawns to force a draw
Difficult to trade that stuck two center pawns
The opponent could just trade all but one pawn and then block its advance.
That would be the play but the opponent saw his drawback. He was actually playing around it and would have made sure to keep 1 pawn alive.
The opponent only lost because his drawback was hard to win with against a defensive opponent
If you lost all your pawns it would probably be an instant loss, based off other drawbacks
At first I thought it would make sense to develop in a Pirc or Modern style of opening, slowly gaining space with your pawns. But then the game would be slowed down a lot because typical outbreaks wouldn't be possible giving black no chance to exploit mistakes by white. So in the end Simp chose a fine way to open the game, shame he had doubled blocked pawns in the centre
That drawback made the opponent in a losing position I think
A challenge for you: Explain how it is 200% winrate without using the word "Asian", "Asia" or similar words.
Edit: also, you are not allowed to say "Terrence Howard" or something similar
He's a big fan of Terrence Howard.
@@cadekachelmeier7251 what is that?
@@3141minecraft asia
@@3141minecraft An actor that was on Joe Rogan recently. He's in a weird conspiracy land and believes that 1*1=2 and Big Math just doesn't want to admit it.
Typing this before the end of the video:
The opponent definitely has a "If you can take you must take" style drawback.
This wasn't impossible. If you let your opponent take all your pawns you can play on a full board
Except that he always reveals his drawback, which means the opponent can simply not capture his pawn
Suggestion: You can only move a piece, after the pawn that started in the same file died.
They really resigned with 4:56 left on the clock. Maybe if they had actually made use of their 5 minutes they would have given Simp his first loss.
I will never get tired of you using scaramouche's boss music
I played against this drawback once. My opponent spent his first two moves on pushing the a pawn, which has made me suspicious. I quickly worked out what his drawback is and trapped all his remaining pieces on first 3 ranks.
But I forgot about the AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PAWN part, I captured his last pawn and then lost my queen 🙃
Simp should have sacrificed all his pawns in the endgame instead of trying to push them
50-move draw is going to be hard to beat with this drawback no matter what the materiel advantage. You can only attack the opponent's back line with pawns, and promotion is mandatory.
The worst drawback on this site is definitely "Devil on your shoulder" - It can literally make your King commit suicide!
The key to winning would be to lose all pawns, which in this specific case would have been quite possible because of the opponents drawback. It would have seemed hard while doing it and then surprisingly easy in retrospect, I believe.
That would only be reasonable to attempt if you already suspected the opponent's drawback.
@@TheSandvichTrials Why? Losing the paws makes all his other pieces way stronger. It should be among the default strategies for this drawback.
@@Alresu Because if the opponent doesn't have a drawback that you can use to force them to take, the opponent would just deliberately not take your pawn and then you're fucked. Remember, Simp has revealed the drawback, so you'd be an idiot to take his last pawn willingly.
@@TheSandvichTrials Absolutely. But if they have to block it also makes it harder for them to attack. In this case Simp was worried about the opponents pawns but since the opponent could not just take all of his pawns without ending the draw back, there would have been a plan of attack.
I will not claim it would be easy. But it's a strategy.
Even if he didn’t resign I’d imagine you could’ve just gotten rid of all your pawns and then proceed
I had the opposite of this drawback in my first drawback game ever, where i could move a piece ahead of my most advanced pawn and my opponent figured it out. Needless to say I was butchered
now imagine it being 'least advanced pawn'
You were playing Sim City while he was playing Checkers
You have clearly never played with "Devil on your shoulder"
I figured they had to have some compulsory capture drawback
Simp could have sacrifices all his pawns and play with non-pawn pieces
I figured the opp's drawback out by the middle of the game. It was too convenient with his play pattern
It made me predict that knight capturing the pawn in front of the king move
One of the drawbacks which can really f*ck you over because of the "taking the kingt"-rule
That's far, far away from being the worst drawback on the site. This is very mild actually.
He literally can't win.
@@EDoyl Trade in all pawns, go everywhere. There are drawbacks that prevent you from moving king, much deadlier if revealed.
@@pafnutiytheartist
How could you trade off your last pawn? the piece in front of it cannot be captured.
@@pafnutiytheartist the opponent can simply not take
I have to ask, wouldn't it be impossible to win without sacrificing all the pawns? You can't take a pawn to the other edge of the board since it'll promote, and since in drawback chess you have to physically capture the king, he can just stay on the last rank and be invulnerable (unless you checkmate and capture with a pawn maybe?). I'm guessing your plan was to promote them all? Or did you interpret the rules differently?
I think the optimal play would have been to sacrifice them since you had material advantage, but I don't know, I'm NOT a cOwaRD so I can't know your thought process. Nice video as always.
You can force the checkmate with a pawn
@@Moleoflands there's no checkmate, you have to capture the king. so not only do you need to "checkmate" with a pawn, it has to be in such a way that all possible escape squares on the 8th rank are covered by pawns.
you don't necisarily need to "sacrifice" (in the sense that you give them away). a piece can exist on the 8th rank , it just can't move until all pawns are gone. so you could also win by just promoting all of your pawns.
You are funny!
Idk why the opponent resigned
I would like to see this at 100 rated level
What if the e5 pawn died? Would the horsie on c5 just get stuck? Could it go back? Or would it end the game completely?
Probably can go back, as long as there's another pawn at the same rank as the horse when it landed.
The challenge only limits where can you move to, not where you can move from.
My opponent had this drawback before and i won
Opponents Drawback is way worse.
Simp needs to learn how to push pawns.
You have not seen closed book. That's probably the worst drawback.
whats that
@@reaganr652 If after you move and there's an opened file, you lose.
@@jeremyready8030 who even thought of that
@@jeremyready8030 Sounds very impossibe
3:45 playing defensive instead of pushing pawn and baiting queen?
I play drawback chess, current ELO on the site is 1650 and I get impossible challenges half my games. I do not know how Simp gets so many players who don't even know how to play chess like his opponent obviously didn't. I've rarely seen players this bad when I play on this site,
Dude if you just got rid of all your pawns your drawback would vanish. It's clear from the way it was formulated.
Hard to do that when the opponent sacs all their pieces and you have no passed pawns
@@Moleoflands what I mean is I don't see why he was fighting against f4 at 5:00 for example, it could have been huge progress for him. or why he was so pessimistic about queenside pawns fighting against each other. besides, he only needed to sacrifice one of his extra pieces on d5 or f5 to unclog his doubled pawns. he was up two knights and a rook, or two knights and two rooks at some point. i think he just didn't realize his drawback would vanish once all of his pawns were dead. it really wasn't that difficult to make progress in his situation, make tiniest sacrifices and either push your pawns forward or get them captured.
@@rohan1864 yeah but the opponent could just decide to not take the pawns and limit mobility, he could have just captured every pawn except the doubled pawns and there would be no way to win
4:09 why not take with rook?
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good try
wtf it said your drawback was on the easier side thats just wrong
"Absolutely impossible."
*hurriedly into phone* Look, I'm tellin' ya, put it all on Simp to win! Have a little faith, buddy!"
*SPOILER GUARD*
*After watching, calmly adjusts new monocle and top hat*
win't
I dont like drawback when u show them to opponent
15s no comment, fell off