Thank you Helena Whitbread for your devotion & undeniable hard work in bringing the story of Anne Lister to life for us all & foretelling your story so beautifully.
Ditto. What amazing work to read through all her journals and uncover such a remarkable life story. I can't wait to watch the show. Just wish Ms. Whitbread was narrating it too.
@@frankpeter6851 Not yet, I am just finishing my Masters in Library Information Science and looking for work in a Queer archive like the one you mentioned. Most of the work I have done was in a vintage sci-fi collection.
@@alexjames2510 Hello! Thanks for asking! In America, Queer is used as an umbrella term for people who fall somewhere on the LGBTQIA spectrum. It was used as a slur to suggest that LGBTQ people were somehow abnormal or wrong for a long time and has since been reclaimed by the community. It's actually where the Q in LGBTQ comes from! It's funny that you assume that I am a lesbian, because I use the term Queer specifically because I am not a lesbian. It may benefit you to do a quick Google search before you comment next time, but I am glad to explain it to those who are curious :).
@@alexjames2510 Words gain different meanings, nuances, become part of different communities' lexicons. English is not a dead language, it is constantly growing and changing. And pretty much any dictionary today will give you both definitions.
Who but the wonderful Suranne Jones could have depicted Ann Lister so brilliantly in Gentleman Jack. I loved the series and was dissapointed at its conclusion And what a satisfying ending it was
What a wonderful and exciting life of Anne Lister, to be of business, climate change ☺️ land owner and the love of women. Amazing woman to seduce them and to finally fall in love with a woman ❤️.
Here in France, even if we know Anne as a prominent modern lesbian, we still fondly remember her as one of the first climber of the mighty Vignemale. Near the mountain and the Ossoue Glacier, lying on the French/Spain border, and overlooking the path she took to climb up the mountain, there's now a famous pass called "Lady Lister pass". Bravo miss lister!
to be fair she'd probably be outraged at the weakening of the aristocracy, disgusted by the mixing of different classes and ashamed that Shibden Hall is a folk history museum - after all she was an ardent 19th centurary Tory through and through unfortunately!
That's so beautiful, being gay in Nigeria is a huge crime, just like Anne i have always loved women, am always fascinated by their beauty both body and soul and am in love with someone, we both planning to leave Nigeria to a better place. Tnx for the video.
This is amazing. I am 68 I came out at 28. And sadly it took me 2 marriages to men and 3 children(whom I love dearly) to realize, I have always been gay. I was never meant to be with a man.
As a film director I have worked on a wide range of heritage video projects over the years, and have to say that this was one of the most curious and insightful projects I have ever been asked to direct. I found Helena Whitbread to be an extremely knowledgeable person regarding the period, the person and the personality of Anne Lister. As Helena has that remarkable ability of being able to talk about Anne as if she were a living, close friend, Helena's intimate understanding is not surprising considering the time she has spent decrypting the diaries/journals and absorbing the information. I am very privileged to have worked on this film and truly delighted that so many have found it as fascinating, interesting and inspirational as I did when interviewing Helena Whitbread and being introduced to the remarkable Anne Lister.
I like your statement, but I don't think you needed to preface it with, "I'm not a lesbian." Just because you're inspired by a woman who was a lesbian doesn't automatically mean people will think you are a lesbian as well.
to me she was a user that looked down on everyone and had no idea of humanity , really it was ok to do the things she did ? heartless is not strong , its just heartless , she was her fathers daughter in human and selfish , btw my daughter is gay and 2 of my sisters and they are strong , what they are not is users and cruel , i have no understanding of why this video was even made , she was a no one and to me any human that used people just for their wants , they deserve forgetting regardless of their sexuality
Jita'ame suluma being a lesbian now vs. then are very different. She could have been put to death for her sexual proclivities. Living under that kind of threat has a powerful effect on someone's character and attitude.
Jita'ame suluma I’ve watched some of the show and was surprised at how she is portrayed, which is exactly as you state. She comes across as a narcissist user, strong or not.
There's nothing wrong with her prefacing her comment by saying she's not a lesbian. The lesbianism of this video's subject is one of the main features of the profile. So it's totally understandable that the OP would state, "that's not something I have in common with this person, however....". It's nothing to be over-sensitive about. I really don't think the OP intended any disrespect, so there's no need to look for it.
Hats 🎩 off to Anne for keeping journals and Suranne ( Sir Anne 😉 ) is bloody fabulous in Gentleman Jack .... loving this history being brought to life 🌈
The woman, Helena, who is narrating and decoding Anne’s diary is extremely intelligent and quite the expert on her topic. I’m very impressed by this little documentary. Anne was quite a woman!
Her "plain script" ( 5/6 of the 5 m words in 27 volumes ) was clean with informative contents . about town & country life , business , & travel . Her "crypt script" (1/6 of the 5 m words in 27 volumes ) was explicit ^ very "racy" .
I have just watched and listened to this fascinating story for the second time. The lady historian who was the narrator seems to me to be a natural story teller, I could have listened to her forever. Amazing historical research, this lady historian gave a truly knowledgeable insight into the life of a woman who dared to be different.
I completely agree - what a lovely, knowledgeable, non-judgemental, simpatico presenter Helena is. I never took my eyes off her. My only disappointment is how often she'd be talking about some emotional human interaction, and it would be illustrated by a photo of a house or a landscape, which utterly took the wind out of her narrational sails. This annoyed me so much that by about 16 minutes in I was ready to quit. I really think the director of this video missed very badly on that count. Luckily, Helena's warm voice and friendly demeanor got me through to the end of this otherwise excellent summary of a great lady's too-short life.
Thank you for this, utterly fascinating. Sexuality, however experienced between two human beings is as old as the earth itself. Women like Ann have lived in this world since it began, lesbianism like homosexuality has a rightful place in human experience, and must be respected and allowed its freedom.
I know right. The crypt hand is actually eaiser to read than the plain hand. Given how horrible her handwriting was I doubt she even needed a code because people wouldn't have been able to read it anyway.
I never tire of hearing the stories from Anne Lister - I so wish the BBC had been willing to renew their contract to continue with Gentleman Jack - it's a crime that there are no more
Lesbian women = "perfect women." My much beloved lesbian maternal auntie, both before and after my mom's death had been and guess still is an incredible mum to me. Thank you, writers and researchers for publishing story of this great lady.
You must be one of the best if not the best narrators on you tube. Thank you for such an enjoyable journey through history . Lesbian or not this woman was a trail blazer!!! thank god for her courage. Respect.
Thank you so much for all your hard work. I am a queer woman and it's simply wonderful to have evidence that women like me have existed and thrived, long long before my time. What a remarkable woman Anne was and what a remarkable woman Helen is for all her years of hard work x
There have always been women to whom the attraction to other women has been their natural inclination. Sadly, it’s only been in recent years that they were free to let the rest of the world know where their hearts lay.
I love the narrator,s accent.I am originally from Yorkshire and have lived in Berlin since the mid 80,s....She speaks in what i called my mother,s "telephone voice".That is to say she articulates well on camera but I bet that her dialect is much broader in private...lolol
A truly fascinating woman, coming from Halifax I feel so proud that she has been recognised as the first modern lesbian... what a legacy. It's very sad that she died so young. Thank you Helena Whitbread for all your hard work.
Am I the only one sad because there's nothing much known about Ann Walker? :( I really wish we knew how her life was, what her feelings were, we know so little about her and yet I find her so intriguing and I'm so curious.
I am so excited to find this story. I have been watching “Gentleman Jack” and wanted to find out about the real Ann Lister. Thank you Helen for your research and bringing her story to light.
What a legend!! What a legacy! I am 49 and came out at 42. One disastrous marriage to a man and two children later I came out. I am happier than I have ever been. Inspirational vlog thank you so much xx
I was unaware that Gentlemen Jack was about Anne Lister. And watching this documentary I thought this would be a interesting read. Turns out it's an interesting show. I binged watched season 1. Now I kind of wished I spread out watching the episodes. Only to have something to look forward to. There's few women whom got to live their lives as they wanted or could in those times. It took a very long time for women to be taken seriously and capable as any man.
"Intellectually hooked"-well I was hooked! Personally, I think you can make her a series. Well done. Well narrated! I'll look for more of you and Ann Lister-because thousands of words..means more. Thanks for a short n sweet totally interesting bit on an interesting person. I'll be on the look out for more!
I was fortunate to tour Shibden Hall when someone who knew the house and the stories showed me secrets and hidden parts of the house. Seeing the door to the bedroom where Annes partner barricaded herself after Anne’s death, the axe marks where they broke through the heavy wooden door to take her away, so they could gain the house brought shivers to me and tears for her plight.
This was a fascinating biography of someone whom I knew nothing about. The narration was excellent and the author’s research and scholarship were excellent. I so appreciate this video and to learn something entirely new to me.
When she said ( and she died there, in September 1840 ) I just lost it and cried,.. 😣 I don’t know why I cry on a person that died 179 year ago, I feel like she’s a family,... I mean I just knew her a week ago, from “Rose and Rosie’s TH-cam channel”
Ann Mitchell I’ve seen it,..!! It was haaard waiting for the next episode, but the last episode was Great,..! Now we have to wait for the second season 🙂
Excellent narration ,beautifully clear ,I love your interest in Anne Lister she is indeed intriguing,I have the same interest in Emily Bronte . thank you so much for the upload .
I'm totally inspired by Anne Lister. I love her story and how she stood for what she believed in. An extremely strong and powerful woman. Suranne Jones is the perfect person for this role, and she plays the part superbly. I really am looking forward to series 2 of Gentleman Jack, and I hope they don't change anything in the way it is written or filmed. I love Suranne looking into the camera and talking, brings us viewers right there with her.
Fascinating video with such thorough narration! Thank you so much for your years of research and dedication, for bringing Anne's complicated story into the light. We need as many stories like this as possible.
Miss Anne Lister was certainly an ambitious “gentleman” of her times, so to speak, even to the point of pursuing a young heiress whom she would never looked at had the heiress been a poor woman. And she was quite a snob, which was also very common. Essentially every land owner was a snob; as they to be to get by in that day and age. That does not make Anne Lister any the less interesting. And her home is beautiful.
I'm struggling with TH-cam channels with content that only last ~22-29 minutes. For some reason a "show" that doesn't have a runtime approx an hour, feels incomplete. It makes the vowing experience feel jumbled and with an "off" rhythm.
intresting, anne was a bit of a goth lol. but not nice of her to use annie like that. in the show they make it seem like she actually fell in love with her.
When you're so addicted to this story but you can't tell anyone because your still hiding in your closet so you opt to watch and read anne lister's story. 😍😂🇵🇭
Ughh.... I can’t get enough of this story! I’m completely in love with the show, I read the companion book, I’m most of the way through one of Helena’s book. I want more! I read on Helena’s blog site that they’re working on publishing more of Anne’s diaries. I cannot wait!
The historian, the lady who is narrating Anne's story is very smart and sweet. The way she's telling the story makes it even more captivating: a very lively account indeed!
Very much so ahead of her time! She would most likely be an activist for women's rights and LGBTQ equality today. I admire people in history who stood up.......even if they stood alone.
Maybe, but she was actually *against* women's suffrage in her time. She wasn't even in favour of universal male suffrage. I feel like she might have been in favour of the few female landowners (like her) having the vote because I can't imagine her being against *herself* having the right to vote but she was definitely not into the idea of poor people having the vote. She would try to convince her male land tenants to vote Tory during elections because she was extremely politically conservative for someone who was such a trail blazer in other ways.
This is a question for Helena, or anyone else who may know. Do you think Anne Lister knew here diaries would be read someday? She was very intelligent, did she have the foresight, to know, they would be read? Maybe by like-minded people in the future?
Yes! I feel that she must have had a very strong sense that they would be read one day, otherwise I don’t think she would have written so prolifically.
Fascinating, and wonderfully presented. A perfect and articulate presentation with the added bonus of the highly appropriate Yorkshire accent. Helena should be on the BBC.
I am very grateful. As a lesbian born in the sixties it still is extremely hard for women to deal with their lives openly. Most cases of problems are politicians and silly religious beliefs that are people who take bits and pieces of the bible and think they have the right to judge others. When loving another human to me is a blessing. Anne Lister was awesome! I am glad that someone finally brought her to life. Thank you so much to this woman who has studied and revealed all that she was. So many suffer with situations that they cannot control like religion or absolute ignorance of women being equal. Its a wonderful thing you did for us by giving us the memories of this strong female. Thank you and Best wishes
This lady is amazing, she brings Anne to vibrant life. I’m full of admiration for all her hard work. What an academic. She can come to dinner at my house any time. 😊😊😊🌟🌟🌟👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
What a fascinating story, beautifully told. I was captivated from start to finish. I always found history too 'dry' to hold my interest - if only our teachers at school could bring it to life as vibrantly as the narrator, I may have learnt so much more. I could listen to her all day.
Regardless of her sexuality she sounds like a remarkable woman - building coal mines and climbing mountains. Those things alone are quite a feat for a woman of her era.
Thank you for this Helena, very informanant, I am a man(78) and not gay, I enjoyed Gentleman Jack series 1, and look forward to series 2…. It was interesting to see a lady taking on the men at there own game, in 18th Century England.
I love that this amazing woman is someone we can get to know. Thank you so much for decoding her journals! I'm so happy she wrote them - otherwise she would be lost to history. Now shes a damn icon!
She is inspirational to women, regardless of their sexuality. Doing and being and living not as a helpless damsel, but as a fearless human being despite what people sad. Kudos to her. Women as a whole can learn from her...
Fascinating - what a marvellous woman and what a perfect narrator! I’m enjoying the BBC drama ‘Gentleman Jack’. Anne Lister was not alone however, history seems to have forgotten the Ladies of Llangollen, who were celebrities in their own time, visited by many - look them up on Wiki. Maybe one day, their story will be more widely known and they will also be recognised for being ahead of their time.
Yes I bought a random book "The Ladies of Llangollen" years ago...it is a fascinating insight into a time gone by..I think their home is still there.I must read it again ..I think one escaped through her bedroom window to be with her lover and they set up home in Llangollen.
Helena Whitbred is incredible! I feel so fortunate enough to live in a time, and place, where my sexuality has never truly been an issue. I think this is due to a combination of factors, with Helena's work being one of them (and now Sally Wainwright/Anne Choma/Suranne Jones, etc.). Please include Helena in the description of this wonderful video! :)
Never knew who Anne Lister was until hearing about the TV series "Gentleman Jack" (which I have yet to watch). Nevertheless she was quiet an extraordinary woman for her time and has endured so today. Am now intrigued to learn more about Anne and her stunning achievements in the face of obstacles and sexual mores of her era.
So she used Ann Walker's money...if she set her sights on her from the beginning? Gross. But this has been going on for centuries...for men and women. Amazing that she lived as she did back then. Incredible really! I havent watched the series yet but i will.
It’s tragic that with everything she achieved in life in her time, she was taken out by a tick. Knowing that she was so regimented in her diary entries, and that there’s nothing written 6 weeks before she died, is... I’m not sure of a word to describe it, but knowing that she couldn’t write, is awful. Having said that, it’s not impossible that she didn’t continue to write, but over time it’s just been lost.
Utube has several excellent videos of Tiblisi Georgia. 1.5 million. People. It was a happening city in 1840s . Hot spring baths , architecture and the natural beauty.
Thank you to the lady on this film, i find her very interesting, and i didnt even know about her until we watched the 1st couple of Gentlemen Jack. Im not a lesbian but like the lady said at rhe end she hopes it helps them and of course she knows because of the letters she has had. I just think she is an amazing woman, the way she dressed and knew her own mind esp Against men, buisness wise. She was bit of a devil 😉 seducing Miss Walker for her money. I think Suranne Jones is playing her very well.
@@iliketowatchvideos47 okay cheers. I was kinda meaning like not for me but i think she will be such an inspiration for lesbians. I find her very interesting, what a woman and Suranne Jones is playing her brilliantly.. great T.V 🙂
Amazing documentary to the series we have all watched recently. Anne was a pioneer! Risking her life and living the way she wanted to. Very inspiring! 🌈
Thank you Helena Whitbread for your devotion & undeniable hard work in bringing the story of Anne Lister to life for us all & foretelling your story so beautifully.
beautifully said
Ditto. What amazing work to read through all her journals and uncover such a remarkable life story. I can't wait to watch the show. Just wish Ms. Whitbread was narrating it too.
Brava to Ms. Whitbread! This was so interesting and so beautifully done!
Makes me proud of being a librarian, archivist, and queer
Rosemary Witch such important work. Thank you!
@@frankpeter6851 Not yet, I am just finishing my Masters in Library Information Science and looking for work in a Queer archive like the one you mentioned. Most of the work I have done was in a vintage sci-fi collection.
@@adopteddivide31 Thanks, and dont thank me just yet. I'm just starting out :)
@@alexjames2510 Hello! Thanks for asking! In America, Queer is used as an umbrella term for people who fall somewhere on the LGBTQIA spectrum. It was used as a slur to suggest that LGBTQ people were somehow abnormal or wrong for a long time and has since been reclaimed by the community. It's actually where the Q in LGBTQ comes from! It's funny that you assume that I am a lesbian, because I use the term Queer specifically because I am not a lesbian. It may benefit you to do a quick Google search before you comment next time, but I am glad to explain it to those who are curious :).
@@alexjames2510 Words gain different meanings, nuances, become part of different communities' lexicons. English is not a dead language, it is constantly growing and changing. And pretty much any dictionary today will give you both definitions.
Terrific documentary. Now I can't wait to watch the series, if I can get it.
Who but the wonderful Suranne Jones could have depicted Ann Lister so brilliantly in Gentleman Jack.
I loved the series and was dissapointed at its conclusion
And what a satisfying ending it was
the TV series brought me here
BRILLIANT...for ALL WOMEN, and not just LESBIANS....
What a wonderful and exciting life of
Anne Lister, to be of business, climate change ☺️ land owner and the love of women. Amazing woman to seduce them and to finally fall in love with a woman ❤️.
Thank you Helena Whitbread for all those years of effort, courage and insight that made us able to meet Anne Lister.
Here in France, even if we know Anne as a prominent modern lesbian, we still fondly remember her as one of the first climber of the mighty Vignemale. Near the mountain and the Ossoue Glacier, lying on the French/Spain border, and overlooking the path she took to climb up the mountain, there's now a famous pass called "Lady Lister pass".
Bravo miss lister!
Didn’t know that! Thank you!
Not one of the first, she was the first.
@@lolotaeja3911 she was the first to officially climb the mountain. But shepherds and poachers most definitely climbed the mountain before!
Awesome!
oh goodness - thanks for this info. I will go and look.
If only Anne could see us now. ❤️🏳️🌈
Oml love your profile pic.
I can !!
Yelyataylor 😃 Exactly what I was thinking. What an amazing woman.
She would be very proud to see freedom. ❣️
to be fair she'd probably be outraged at the weakening of the aristocracy, disgusted by the mixing of different classes and ashamed that Shibden Hall is a folk history museum - after all she was an ardent 19th centurary Tory through and through unfortunately!
That's so beautiful, being gay in Nigeria is a huge crime, just like Anne i have always loved women, am always fascinated by their beauty both body and soul and am in love with someone, we both planning to leave Nigeria to a better place. Tnx for the video.
Be careful darling. 😚
@@singingrose4377, thanks dear
@@ogechukwunicholas8063 sisters right 😆
@@singingrose4377 yes sisters, where you at?
Best of luck. Come to Canada :-)
This is amazing. I am 68 I came out at 28. And sadly it took me 2 marriages to men and 3 children(whom I love dearly) to realize, I have always been gay. I was never meant to be with a man.
Sherry E I truly understand 😢
I hope you are living a happier and freer life now!
I hope you are much happier now. You remind me of the movie Carol.
I hope you are happy and fulfilled.
@@cooliocook6911 fulfilled no but, I'm doing ok. Thank you
As a film director I have worked on a wide range of heritage video projects over the years, and have to say that this was one of the most curious and insightful projects I have ever been asked to direct.
I found Helena Whitbread to be an extremely knowledgeable person regarding the period, the person and the personality of Anne Lister. As Helena has that remarkable ability of being able to talk about Anne as if she were a living, close friend, Helena's intimate understanding is not surprising considering the time she has spent decrypting the diaries/journals and absorbing the information.
I am very privileged to have worked on this film and truly delighted that so many have found it as fascinating, interesting and inspirational as I did when interviewing Helena Whitbread and being introduced to the remarkable Anne Lister.
@Irene Thank you, it was an absolute joy to work on and I am very pleased you enjoyed it so much.
Whats the name of the book
The book by Helena Whitbread is called - The Secret Diaries of Miss Anne Lister
You did a great job on this! 👏 👏 👏
@@deborahkeller5298 Thank you - much appreciated.
Im not a lesbian, I find Anns story about being a strong woman sitting across from men and saying "Im as good as you" inspiring. 🙂🤓
I like your statement, but I don't think you needed to preface it with, "I'm not a lesbian." Just because you're inspired by a woman who was a lesbian doesn't automatically mean people will think you are a lesbian as well.
to me she was a user that looked down on everyone and had no idea of humanity , really it was ok to do the things she did ? heartless is not strong , its just heartless , she was her fathers daughter in human and selfish , btw my daughter is gay and 2 of my sisters and they are strong , what they are not is users and cruel , i have no understanding of why this video was even made , she was a no one and to me any human that used people just for their wants , they deserve forgetting regardless of their sexuality
Jita'ame suluma being a lesbian now vs. then are very different. She could have been put to death for her sexual proclivities. Living under that kind of threat has a powerful effect on someone's character and attitude.
Jita'ame suluma I’ve watched some of the show and was surprised at how she is portrayed, which is exactly as you state. She comes across as a narcissist user, strong or not.
There's nothing wrong with her prefacing her comment by saying she's not a lesbian. The lesbianism of this video's subject is one of the main features of the profile. So it's totally understandable that the OP would state, "that's not something I have in common with this person, however....". It's nothing to be over-sensitive about. I really don't think the OP intended any disrespect, so there's no need to look for it.
Hats 🎩 off to Anne for keeping journals and Suranne ( Sir Anne 😉 ) is bloody fabulous in Gentleman Jack .... loving this history being brought to life 🌈
Totally agree Sea Tree. Great Sunday night viewing, Refreshing to see a strong female being depicted so well by Suranne.
I love this show.. you dont have to be gay to fall in love with this women and the character played by Suranne. Fabulous and inspiring!
Before Gentleman Jack was 'The Secret Diaries of Anne Lister'...which is also very, very good.
amazing isn't it? I was born in Halifax and been to shibden hall many times, but to see it on tv and her story is brilliant she plays it so well
'Sir Anne' HA! that's brilliant :)
"History is fair game" spoken as a true historian and biographer. Thank you for the years of hard work decoding and telling her story.
The woman, Helena, who is narrating and decoding Anne’s diary is extremely intelligent and quite the expert on her topic. I’m very impressed by this little documentary. Anne was quite a woman!
Her "plain script" ( 5/6 of the 5 m words in 27 volumes ) was clean with informative contents . about town & country life , business , & travel .
Her "crypt script" (1/6 of the 5 m words in 27 volumes ) was explicit ^ very "racy" .
I am enthralled by Helena, so very bright and she talks of Anne as if she lived contemporary with her! Fantastic stuff !
@@robertbarrett2494 p
@@sidneygreenglass106 me too - Helena as impressive in her own right as the story she is sharing
Yup, Anne Lister went to Paris to study anatomy! 😉😏
IrethN I love that scene!!😂🎩
Lolol!
I have just watched and listened to this fascinating story for the second time. The lady historian who was the narrator seems to me to be a natural story teller, I could have listened to her forever.
Amazing historical research, this lady historian gave a truly knowledgeable insight into the life of a woman who dared to be different.
Helena Whitbread is her name.
@@premasru Thanks.
I could listen to her all day! What a natural!
I completely agree - what a lovely, knowledgeable, non-judgemental, simpatico presenter Helena is. I never took my eyes off her. My only disappointment is how often she'd be talking about some emotional human interaction, and it would be illustrated by a photo of a house or a landscape, which utterly took the wind out of her narrational sails. This annoyed me so much that by about 16 minutes in I was ready to quit. I really think the director of this video missed very badly on that count. Luckily, Helena's warm voice and friendly demeanor got me through to the end of this otherwise excellent summary of a great lady's too-short life.
You beat me too this comment - isnt Helena's storytelling fabulous. She has done justice to the history and legacy of Ann.
Thank you for this, utterly fascinating. Sexuality, however experienced between two human beings is as old as the earth itself. Women like Ann have lived in this world since it began, lesbianism like homosexuality has a rightful place in human experience, and must be respected and allowed its freedom.
Well said 👏
Truthfully beautiful.
Well written and if that’s your real name, you share it with a well know author ✍️ 🤩
I'm sure you also believe that zoophiles have a quiet dignity all of their own, and sheep-worrying must be respected and allowed its freedom.
@@--legionhow ridiculous....animals can't consent. Clearly women can consent to have a private relationship
I've watched the second episode of
"Gentleman Jack" starting Suranne Jones as Anne lister tonight which has brought me here, fascinating story!
Me too!!
And me!!
Same here :)
same
Great show, I've enjoyed watching it.
Suranne Jones is superb as Anne Lister. A fascinating story of an incredible woman xx
yes a multi faceted story that HBO only focuses on one part of her life.
@@susieinthecountry4434 Agreed .
Suranne is amazing!
CutZy McCall Agreed
Susan Thomas agree she is absolutely brilliant and plays the role believably
It's remarkable that you can even read her scribbled handwriting, let alone translate her algebraic symbols!
I know right. The crypt hand is actually eaiser to read than the plain hand. Given how horrible her handwriting was I doubt she even needed a code because people wouldn't have been able to read it anyway.
It is difficult to read .
I've become enthralled by this woman. The more I find out about her, the more starved for information I become.
Laurie Kearney same for me! She defies all expectations and limitations. What an incredible human.
Me too!
What a wonderful true life story and thank you to the lady who put this on You tube.
and the hard work of Helena Whitbread... obviously ;)
I never tire of hearing the stories from Anne Lister - I so wish the BBC had been willing to renew their contract to continue with Gentleman Jack - it's a crime that there are no more
What a marvellous story teller,thank you!
Lesbian women = "perfect women." My much beloved lesbian maternal auntie, both before and after my mom's death had been and guess still is an incredible mum to me. Thank you, writers and researchers for publishing story of this great lady.
Helena Whitbread is an extraordinary woman. By translating Anne Lister's diaries, she has left her mark on history just as much as Ann Lister did.
You must be one of the best if not the best narrators on you tube.
Thank you for such an enjoyable journey through history . Lesbian or not this woman was a trail blazer!!! thank god for her courage. Respect.
She is a joy to listen to too.
Can lesbians NOT be trailblazers?
@Zep Tepi Try not to tell me what I do & do not understand.
@@frompapertopeoplepodcast4889 Sure they can..
@Zep Tepi Someone, always needs to make something from nothing !! You, did nothing to be chastised for !! Luv Ya !!
Thank you so much for all your hard work. I am a queer woman and it's simply wonderful to have evidence that women like me have existed and thrived, long long before my time. What a remarkable woman Anne was and what a remarkable woman Helen is for all her years of hard work x
There have always been women to whom the attraction to other women has been their natural inclination. Sadly, it’s only been in recent years that they were free to let the rest of the world know where their hearts lay.
I love the narrator,s accent.I am originally from Yorkshire and have lived in Berlin since the mid 80,s....She speaks in what i called my mother,s "telephone voice".That is to say she articulates well on camera but I bet that her dialect is much broader in private...lolol
A truly fascinating woman, coming from Halifax I feel so proud that she has been recognised as the first modern lesbian... what a legacy. It's very sad that she died so young. Thank you Helena Whitbread for all your hard work.
Am I the only one sad because there's nothing much known about Ann Walker? :( I really wish we knew how her life was, what her feelings were, we know so little about her and yet I find her so intriguing and I'm so curious.
I am so excited to find this story. I have been watching “Gentleman Jack” and wanted to find out about the real Ann Lister. Thank you Helen for your research and bringing her story to light.
What a legend!! What a legacy! I am 49 and came out at 42. One disastrous marriage to a man and two children later I came out. I am happier than I have ever been. Inspirational vlog thank you so much xx
I love the women telling the story ...I want to hug her.I jist wstch the HBO Mini Series very good they should do a movie on her.I love true story's.
Suranne Jones does credit in her portrayal of this truly remarkable woman.
I was unaware that Gentlemen Jack was about Anne Lister. And watching this documentary I thought this would be a interesting read. Turns out it's an interesting show. I binged watched season 1. Now I kind of wished I spread out watching the episodes. Only to have something to look forward to.
There's few women whom got to live their lives as they wanted or could in those times. It took a very long time for women to be taken seriously and capable as any man.
Thank you for this fascinating narrative, Helena. I shared this on FB. You're a great storyteller and historian.
Thanks for giving us this fascinating history of Anne Lister!
What an amazing Badass. I am so grateful to learn about this incredible woman.
What a courageous woman to stand against "polite" society of the times to be her trueself I love her life story. 💖💖💖
I'd like to read the diary verbatim, not just extracts from it.
I hope the whole diary does get published someday.
I've been watching Gentlemen Jack which I'm sure barely touches on the details of Ann's life. The show is very entertaining though.
"Intellectually hooked"-well I was hooked! Personally, I think you can make her a series. Well done. Well narrated! I'll look for more of you and Ann Lister-because thousands of words..means more. Thanks for a short n sweet totally interesting bit on an interesting person. I'll be on the look out for more!
Wow what a fascinating woman, even more fascinating to listen to Helena Whitebread tell this woman's story! 😍😊
Behind her back she’s gentleman jack ✨
Lol
behind her back she's gentleman jack=
I was fortunate to tour Shibden Hall when someone who knew the house and the stories showed me secrets and hidden parts of the house. Seeing the door to the bedroom where Annes partner barricaded herself after Anne’s death, the axe marks where they broke through the heavy wooden door to take her away, so they could gain the house brought shivers to me and tears for her plight.
Welcome to Mastermind Helena whitbread, and your chosen subject is "Anne Lister"
This was a fascinating biography of someone whom I knew nothing about. The narration was excellent and the author’s research and scholarship were excellent. I so appreciate this video and to learn something entirely new to me.
When she said ( and she died there, in September 1840 ) I just lost it and cried,.. 😣
I don’t know why I cry on a person that died 179 year ago, I feel like she’s a family,... I mean I just knew her a week ago, from “Rose and Rosie’s TH-cam channel”
K Pee You’re absolutely right!!
Try watching the new BBC series about her life 'Gentleman Jack'.
Ann Mitchell I’ve seen it,..!! It was haaard waiting for the next episode, but the last episode was Great,..!
Now we have to wait for the second season 🙂
I loved, loved, loved, loved, loved learning about Anne Lister. Thank you.
Excellent narration ,beautifully clear ,I love your interest in Anne Lister she is indeed intriguing,I have the same interest in Emily Bronte . thank you so much for the upload .
I'm totally inspired by Anne Lister. I love her story and how she stood for what she believed in. An extremely strong and powerful woman. Suranne Jones is the perfect person for this role, and she plays the part superbly. I really am looking forward to series 2 of Gentleman Jack, and I hope they don't change anything in the way it is written or filmed. I love Suranne looking into the camera and talking, brings us viewers right there with her.
Fascinating video with such thorough narration! Thank you so much for your years of research and dedication, for bringing Anne's complicated story into the light. We need as many stories like this as possible.
Miss Anne Lister was certainly an ambitious “gentleman” of her times, so to speak, even to the point of pursuing a young heiress whom she would never looked at had the heiress been a poor woman. And she was quite a snob, which was also very common. Essentially every land owner was a snob; as they to be to get by in that day and age.
That does not make Anne Lister any the less interesting. And her home is beautiful.
I'm struggling with TH-cam channels with content that only last ~22-29 minutes. For some reason a "show" that doesn't have a runtime approx an hour, feels incomplete. It makes the vowing experience feel jumbled and with an "off" rhythm.
Loved this. I’ve just watched the 8 episodes and absolutely hooked. I hope there is more to come 😍
intresting, anne was a bit of a goth lol. but not nice of her to use annie like that. in the show they make it seem like she actually fell in love with her.
When you're so addicted to this story but you can't tell anyone because your still hiding in your closet so you opt to watch and read anne lister's story. 😍😂🇵🇭
Same lol.
@@singingrose4377 haha good lord!
@Guru Music Lover cheers! 😂 kahit tapos na yung season 1, ulit-ulit nlng panuorin kasi ang ganda tlaga. 😁😍
What site are you watching it?
@keso anong site mo napanood?
Excellent insight - thank you!
Ughh.... I can’t get enough of this story! I’m completely in love with the show, I read the companion book, I’m most of the way through one of Helena’s book. I want more! I read on Helena’s blog site that they’re working on publishing more of Anne’s diaries. I cannot wait!
If you haven't read them already, I recommend the books by Jill Liddington as well!
@@elizabethwhite1068 thank you for the recommendation!
The historian, the lady who is narrating Anne's story is very smart and sweet. The way she's telling the story makes it even more captivating: a very lively account indeed!
Fascinating person, she took the role of a modern day feminist. I admire the way she lived how she wanted.
Bravo Anne!!!!
Very much so ahead of her time! She would most likely be an activist for women's rights and LGBTQ equality today. I admire people in history who stood up.......even if they stood alone.
And in those days it was so much harder to stand up for yourself, no protection under the law..
Maybe, but she was actually *against* women's suffrage in her time. She wasn't even in favour of universal male suffrage. I feel like she might have been in favour of the few female landowners (like her) having the vote because I can't imagine her being against *herself* having the right to vote but she was definitely not into the idea of poor people having the vote. She would try to convince her male land tenants to vote Tory during elections because she was extremely politically conservative for someone who was such a trail blazer in other ways.
Maxine peake played this role a few years ago in the secret diaries of miss anne lister..worth a watch
Maxine is such a gifted actress.
How to you watch the secret diaries of miss lister?
What a fantastic insight to an incredible woman.
A truly incredible knowledge narrated so eloquently.
Thank you 🙏♥️👏👏
This is a question for Helena, or anyone else who may know. Do you think Anne Lister knew here diaries would be read someday? She was very intelligent, did she have the foresight, to know, they would be read? Maybe by like-minded people in the future?
As I understand it she wanted to be an author of travel books (though never actually doing it), but wrote her journals purely for herself.
I think she did. Otherwise, why devise her code?
Yes! I feel that she must have had a very strong sense that they would be read one day, otherwise I don’t think she would have written so prolifically.
Very well narrated by a passionate and accurate historian.
Beautiful and amazing thanks so much for the upload
Gentleman Jack has been superb. There is so much more to learn about Anne Lister so this has been very informative.
What a brilliant story, and marvellously told!
This is an outstanding account of an amazing historical figure. I want to read the book!
Brilliant piece. If only I could write as beautifully as Helena Whitbread speaks, this comment would be way more colourful. xxxx
Fascinating, and wonderfully presented. A perfect and articulate presentation with the added bonus of the highly appropriate Yorkshire accent. Helena should be on the BBC.
I am very grateful. As a lesbian born in the sixties it still is extremely hard for women to deal with their lives openly. Most cases of problems are politicians and silly religious beliefs that are people who take bits and pieces of the bible and think they have the right to judge others. When loving another human to me is a blessing. Anne Lister was awesome! I am glad that someone finally brought her to life. Thank you so much to this woman who has studied and revealed all that she was. So many suffer with situations that they cannot control like religion or absolute ignorance of women being equal. Its a wonderful thing you did for us by giving us the memories of this strong female. Thank you and Best wishes
Lovely biography of a women who just wanted to live her life her way!
This lady is amazing, she brings Anne to vibrant life. I’m full of admiration for all her hard work. What an academic. She can come to dinner at my house any time. 😊😊😊🌟🌟🌟👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
What an amazing research project this must have been. Nice work, Helena Whitbread and thank you for sharing this.
Amazing story.
Kilter is a moron
I love anything historical, and I'd never heard of her , so thank you for posting this .
Missy, there’s a series about her on HBO right now. I bet you’d like it.
@@gretchennation591 thank you so much for telling me !
What a fascinating story, beautifully told. I was captivated from start to finish. I always found history too 'dry' to hold my interest - if only our teachers at school could bring it to life as vibrantly as the narrator, I may have learnt so much more. I could listen to her all day.
Regardless of her sexuality she sounds like a remarkable woman - building coal mines and climbing mountains. Those things alone are quite a feat for a woman of her era.
Thank you for this Helena, very informanant, I am a man(78) and not gay, I enjoyed Gentleman Jack series 1, and look forward to series 2…. It was interesting to see a lady taking on the men at there own game, in 18th Century England.
I love that this amazing woman is someone we can get to know. Thank you so much for decoding her journals! I'm so happy she wrote them - otherwise she would be lost to history. Now shes a damn icon!
What a pleasure it is to listen to someone with knowledge of and affinity for a subject.
Thank you for some of the back story.
Wonderful storyteller, obviously knows her stuff very well, I could listen to her for hours.
She is inspirational to women, regardless of their sexuality. Doing and being and living not as a helpless damsel, but as a fearless human being despite what people sad. Kudos to her. Women as a whole can learn from her...
Fascinating - what a marvellous woman and what a perfect narrator! I’m enjoying the BBC drama ‘Gentleman Jack’. Anne Lister was not alone however, history seems to have forgotten the Ladies of Llangollen, who were celebrities in their own time, visited by many - look them up on Wiki. Maybe one day, their story will be more widely known and they will also be recognised for being ahead of their time.
J A could you provide links or explain more? I’d love to know!
Here’s a starters
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies_of_Llangollen
Yes I bought a random book "The Ladies of Llangollen" years ago...it is a fascinating insight into a time gone by..I think their home is still there.I must read it again ..I think one escaped through her bedroom window to be with her lover and they set up home in Llangollen.
In the tv series i love the way she cut her eyes i really think she wanted someone to love and have them love het back the same way.
Wonderful insights into this incredible woman. Thank you!
Helena Whitbred is incredible! I feel so fortunate enough to live in a time, and place, where my sexuality has never truly been an issue. I think this is due to a combination of factors, with Helena's work being one of them (and now Sally Wainwright/Anne Choma/Suranne Jones, etc.). Please include Helena in the description of this wonderful video! :)
Helena Whitbread - what a brilliant story teller. Speaks with such fluency, clarity and compassion.
Never knew who Anne Lister was until hearing about the TV series "Gentleman Jack" (which I have yet to watch). Nevertheless she was quiet an extraordinary woman for her time and has endured so today. Am now intrigued to learn more about Anne and her stunning achievements in the face of obstacles and sexual mores of her era.
So she used Ann Walker's money...if she set her sights on her from the beginning? Gross. But this has been going on for centuries...for men and women. Amazing that she lived as she did back then. Incredible really! I havent watched the series yet but i will.
It’s tragic that with everything she achieved in life in her time, she was taken out by a tick. Knowing that she was so regimented in her diary entries, and that there’s nothing written 6 weeks before she died, is... I’m not sure of a word to describe it, but knowing that she couldn’t write, is awful. Having said that, it’s not impossible that she didn’t continue to write, but over time it’s just been lost.
Utube has several excellent videos of Tiblisi Georgia. 1.5 million. People. It was a happening city in 1840s . Hot spring baths , architecture and the natural beauty.
A great story to put Halifax and Shibden Hall on the map !
Remember visiting with my sister in the 60s .
Thank you to the lady on this film, i find her very interesting, and i didnt even know about her until we watched the 1st couple of Gentlemen Jack.
Im not a lesbian but like the lady said at rhe end she hopes it helps them and of course she knows because of the letters she has had.
I just think she is an amazing woman, the way she dressed and knew her own mind esp
Against men, buisness wise. She was bit of a devil 😉 seducing Miss Walker for her money.
I think Suranne Jones is playing her very well.
U dont need to say your not gay 😂😂it doesnt matter
@@iliketowatchvideos47 okay cheers.
I was kinda meaning like not for me but i think she will be such an inspiration for lesbians. I find her very interesting, what a woman and Suranne Jones is playing her brilliantly.. great T.V 🙂
@@ChrisR_68 shes sexy as hell 😂💕
Amazing documentary to the series we have all watched recently. Anne was a pioneer! Risking her life and living the way she wanted to. Very inspiring! 🌈