NF's HOPE is NOT GOOD
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NF - HOPE / 2023 / SELF-RELEASED / POP RAP, CONSCIOUS HIP HOP, I LIKE HOW "EPIC MUSIC" IS A GENRE ON RYM
NOT GOOD/10
Y'all know this is just my opinion, right? - เพลง
"Eminem if he were a theater kid" is one of the most unintentionally brutal things melon has ever said
But it’s so accurate
@Operation: Heavener And still is today. Eminem rapped about those things on Music To Be Murdered By as well.
What would Eminem be without struggle and an alter ego that says zany things?
@@martytu20 Hmmm…SSLP, MMLP, MMLP2, The Eminem Show, Relapse…
@Operation: Heavener His struggles with divorce, anxiety with fame, drug addiction did churn out some great songs. It’s when he is in a happy moment in life that he doesn’t have much to say or rap.
NF DOOM really fell off after madvilliany, such a shame.
this is so wicked
😂😂
Usually these types of comments are kinda annoying, but this is kinda ight ngl
This is evil.
@@bruh......2005 thank you for your feedback.
Cant really fault someone too much for writing the music they like. Clearly NF enjoys doing this style. And when i first heard this new album, it came off as driven by his changing life circumstances. Becoming a parent and whatnot.
but you can clearly see that he hit the plateau. this new album seems like a copy of his previous album but with a slightly different theme. musically there's almost no difference but when it comes to lyrics he's become a little bland, boring and predictable. I like the fact that he's getting better at dealing with his issues and that he's in a happy place in his life but what made him interesting in the first place is his shtick of being this broken guy that goes through the hardships in life and is trying to understand his mind and it's responses to the horrible outside reality. Without it he's just a ... I don't even know just a regular pop artist with a christian twist. I can even predict what his next album is going to be about. it's going to be about him raising his kid, comparing him raising them up with his own childhood and how he is thankful to god for his family and how it gives him inspiration etc etc, while bitching how he's so unique and how other rappers only rap about money and bitkhes (when literally no rapper does that anymore). literally there's only 2 songs out of this album that I would probably listen to everyday. mediocre. can't say more about it and I'm gonna be very surprised if I'm wrong and he actually comes up with a banger album next but I doubt it
@@accountnew7030no one is going to read that
@A T I love that you said no rapper raps about money and bitches anymore but literally probably every rapper you listen to does. New car, New hoe, New necklace, and you love hearing about it😂
@@accountnew7030 and here you are writing an essay about it. mission accomplished!
Ofc you can't fault em for that. Doesn't mean we gotta like it! :^)
As NF said "as always the one trick pony is here so quit your sulking"
Somebody once said NF is “video game trailer music” and I can’t stop thinking about that
Perfect way to describe this album
Someone else said he's a Recovery version of him. Some guy that owns a Spaghetti restaurant
It sounds like AJR made trailer music for a terrible Eminem biopic
well one of his songs was used for an Apex trailer 😭
cause of his producer, tommy prophet makes the same song over
If Danny Brown and JPEGMAFIA were on this, and it was a collab album between the two called “Scaring the Hoes” you would’ve given it a light 9.
Big if true
Scaring the Ho[p]es
NF doesn’t swear 🤦♂️
@@dareal8n Scaring the Harlots
because that would be a much better record, right?
It must be pretty good if Fantano doesn’t like it.
What?
This comment will probably get missed since I think everyone here hates NF
I think you can not relate to something, but still appreciate the artistry. He puts a lot of effort in his word choice, cadence, audio engineering, and directing choices. Clearly I’m an NF fan so I wanted to hear how the other side finds his new direction. But maybe NF fans and non fans just wont see eye to eye on this one as art is up for interpretation.
People love to hate on this guy, they're all bark no bite, the only thing that their mind thinks of is "he's a Eminem recovery clone" 💯
@@romonrivera9977 that’s pretty dang true😅 to each their own though. I guess if you don’t like it, press the stop button 🤷♂️
@@darthkolvin3210 fr
@@romonrivera9977 they all have the same argument
yeah, everyone does and they have no real reason.
Pretty brutal to declare the concept of NF having hope NOT GOOD
bro can have hope, just please express it in a way that doesn’t sound like you’re advertising a new car.
@@harnessmadeofhopes wtf are you talking about
@@harnessmadeofhopes what do you mean by that?
@@harnessmadeofhopes Explain?
@@harnessmadeofhopes make it make sense
If this album was called To Pimp a Hope, you would’ve bumped it up to a 10.
And if was called to Pimp a Hoe it would be a 11/10
LMAOOO
funny cause its true
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y'all must be Redditors
NF is the type of guy to stop at a red light while playing Grand Theft Auto.
Don't act like you don't get bored and do that sometimes. 🤣
@@LVTHORAscending its harder to abide traffic laws. gives you something to do
Huh??
Melon, you would’ve given this a ten if he was white
Huh? 😭
Genuinely misread the title and thought Melon was taking down the entire NFT industry in one video.
NF is just their predecessor. So technically you read the title right.
NF is worse
Well we wouldn't bother tbh
Fantano encroaching on Dan Olson territory.
Folding Ideas already did that
NF makes music for the crowd of folks who say “I don’t listen to rap but this guy speaks the truth!”
Nah thats Tom McDonald
@@elektra8535lmao facts
yeah that's definitely more Tom mcdonald. appealing to the same crowd that says "I'm not racist, I have black friends"
@@silvaskiproductions3937leave it to the racist to bring racism in a comment
@@daniaboujaoude4302 The thing is there's plenty of rappers that fill that gap.
I’ve never related more to an album in my life then I have with nfs “hope”. The struggles he’s faced with mental health, finding faith, dealing with trauma, not passing that along to his kids, fighting back with his inner child/demons, staying true to himself and his values…he’s an inspiration to me. & the music is good/catchy/moving. Plus me & my four year old son can listen to this together, we go “my album” my album “my album” my album “my album!!!!!!! Hope!
NF sucks, listen to Thugger.
@@franchise5527nice opinion u got there.
@@kazu9310 NF is mid, listen to MF DOOM.
Still a corny whack rapper nevertheless.
@@franchise5527invalid opinion
To me, i think the idea that what he's doing is 'revolutionary' had less to do with his style, and more to do with his 'journey.' Very few artists had a consistent story/journey they take people on from album to album. Thats not to say it hasnt been done before, but i havent seen someone do it the NF has. Hope, Happy, Motto, and a few other songs from this album were really good to me, and other were hard misses. I still though it was good and am excited to see what comes next because we can see hjm trying to figure out how to fit his style while not losing himself back into that downward spiral he used to sing from previously. Give him some time, he'll figure it out.
those songs are shit
lmaooo
Do NOT ask an NF fan why NF is their favourite rapper.
i know this is a racism joke, he def isn't even close to my favorite rapper, but i do have a soft spot in my heart for how he helped me relate through a dark time in my life
@@Ty122096if it is then I don’t get it cus I’m black huh
he doesnt have to be your favorite rapper to be a fan tf?
@@Ty122096 what the fuck are you talking about
@@RaikanaAF NF is considered a "lyrical miracle rapper". And the joke often is is that these rappers are listened to by old white dudes who are convinced that they will bring back the "old hip-hop."
Mostly cause they're white.
NF is what happens when Recovery is your Illmatic.
Not at all that's fucking drake if anything not NF
@@thephenom9583 I don’t think drake has ever heard illmatic or recovery
this is the perfect way to describe NF 😂
@@thephenom9583 Not a single Drake album sounds like a Recovery knockoff lmfao.
This comment is brutal
I completely respect everyone’s musically opinion and people have to understand that people like the taste of different food as with music. It’s just when people diminish you for it. I completely understand his take but for someone who loves NF (btw I love a whole spectrum of music from pop, hip pop rap like everything) but sumtimes people have to look at music and put all that aside and say do I like this song or not, that’s it. Because that is literally what music was inteaded for
Im sorry but i completely disagree, guess its your opinion but i personally disagree
If this album had 100% drugs, 100% money, and 100% sex, you would've given it a 10.
album had to be a full 300%
Nah
Any time a rap album isn't related to the next persons that includes a bunch of niche trops like drugs, sex, money people start hating.
And 100% pure uncut rock
@@noirdude8645 Kendrick Lamar,earl sweatshirt and makes that point stupid
Anthony, I normally like your videos, but if this was called Nendrick Famar there's no doubt in my mind that you would name this one of the greatest concept albums of this century.
real
So real
To hope a butterfly
Not real
Ongod
i can’t believe someone can say this whole album is a whole is “not good”. that’s a crazy take
i mean hes a critic, kinda doing his job. sometimes he disagrees with your opinion. not the end of the world
How is it crazy?
I agree with you he thinks this album is bad but he couldnt do not a quarter of what NF does
@@drakethelf that's not his job, his job is to give his opinion on music
@@KMoney-be1yg IK that's not his job but it entails that basically any music of this genre, he is going to Criticize and I don't think that's fair because there's a lot of music like what NF makes that is terrible but you don't see those people getting the same treatment as NF. NF does it differently and most likely one of the best in that category! I'm simply saying the reason NF is getting this hate or "Critiquing" is because he's at the top and he is unique. I get its not everyone's style and that's cool but there is no one near his level and to say this album of them all was a bad one is almost just a plain out insult... Now is that what he's doing "Critiquing", because its sounds like there is a little bit of hatred toward NF's music in general.
The cinematic theme is his own style
You would've given it a 10/10 if Ed Sheeran did a rap feature
Ed Sheeran is up and coming like he is fucking on an elevator
If this album was named Clouds, you would’ve given it a 5
Are u related to Robert Trujillo of Metallica?
Good question
thats true
@@hoodiejalen366 I wish
He's at his best when hes talking about himself and his own internal struggle vs when he talks about others and what they think of him
If only TH-cam still told you the amount of dislikes on a video. 🤔🤔
1.6k
NF is the “live, laugh, love” of hip hop
😂😂😂
raw
even worse than that he's more like a fake humble linkedin post
😂😂😂
Brutalized 😂😂
"It's Recovery-era Eminem copying AJR, who is copying Twenty-One Pilots."
Somebody get NF on suicide watch 💀
Cringe comment fr
“Hope” he can recover
I don't think NF gives a fuck what some small time TH-camr has to say about his album.
@@PugsNotDrugs4calling fantano a small time youtuber is fucking crazy
@@PugsNotDrugs4 yo even though I am a fan of NF, this album not good
I feel what your saying. And I respectfully disagree. Feels like there's a lot of comparisons. And as we know: Comparison is the thief of joy. In closing: Just because you don't like something doesn't mean its not good.
thats just an excuse that people hide behind to say that their favourite artist is good even when critics say they arent
@@hatw_ Indeed. Especially when weather being good or not is based more on opinion, quality of the artists work, and the critics taste in music. Considering his fan base has been nothing but supportive. Id say its pretty good. My point is, learn to see the difference between what is objectively bad vs it not being your preferred thing/taste.
Anthony's videos aren't about good and bad, it's about what he likes.
music is subjective, like what you like. but don't expect people to not give criticsim on it
i think someone needs to take a good listen to motto and try applying it to their life.
He said on one of his songs I can't remember which one that he'll "accept advice if it's not presented ignorantly" so let's hope he listens.
The song is Paid My Dues
And by the way, NF is probably one of the few artists who I have legitimate HOPE for when he needs to improvise.
He literally gave no advice
@@coltannorris1868he literally did in the last third of the review.
I get it. It’s not for everyone. I like the points he made. As someone who has followed NF for years I fall in love with the journey and his music. It probably makes the music easier to listen to. I absolutely love this album. And his hype tracks are good gym motivators while they do come off as over the top and he has a me against the world approach. I love the singing cuts on this album but that’s just me I guess. I respect your opinion and understand your critiques. Thank you melon.
TPAB has a track titled Momma, Hope has a track titled Mama. Hope is this decade's TPAB confirmed 🗣️💯 10/10, NF is the goat 🐐
Cap
GKMC has a track titled Real, and so does NF's album "Therapy Session"
@@GreencowmeGamer 🤯 Real Music 💯🔥
His "demon" isnt fame. Hes talking about growing as a person
how in anyway is this album or any of the songs on it related to Eminem or sounding anything like Eminem has realized in the past?
How is it not?
NF stands for Needledrop Fan, you should've given this a 10
Nah, he hates those people
bro what,
@@Barrinetic learn sarcasm
@@PeterGriffinGaming i said nothing more than bro what, you don’t understand what i’m saying
@@Barrinetic nf stands for needledrop fan
By the way, the only songs Fantano vibed with were “CAREFUL”, “MAMA” and “RUNNING”
This crap take makes me wanna listen to the Hope album again.
NF's music saved my life.
With that being said, I really respect the way you laid out your opinion of the album.
Can't deny that especially for me, but this "HOPE" album have only like 2 good songs
🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@ajmma499 Ya'll NF haters can't put up a good arguement if your life depended on it. The only thing you guys know how to say is some cringe ass emoji.
@@KianTheeGreat you are the proof bro. nf makes music for little roblox kids
@nuts my statement still stands, y’all can’t put on a good argument
As an NF fan, I can really appreciate how he laid out his thoughts and gave a completely honest opinion without having to directly attack NF as an artist like some have
NF as an artist sucks
I'm glad Anthony Fantano didn't make you cry
Maybe NF needs to be directly attacked as an artist like some have
@@BladeMaktar don’t know why he needs the guy hasn’t done nothing
@@BladeMaktar nf hasn’t done anything to deserve that though. At least he isn’t racist and complains about “wokeness” and “snowflakes” like Tom Macdonald does💀
Fun fact NF stands for Nick Fuentes.
Explains his popularity with the alt-right.
That’s not fun
It stands for Not Funny. 😂
I like how I can’t be a fan of NF without being a alt right racist who only likes him because he’s white …fucking clowns
Name one time NF has ever said something racist or anti Semitic💀
What makes NF's "Clouds" album a mixtape? Back in my day a mixtape was either an album with various songs from various artists that a DJ mixes together or it was an album that rappers made rapping over other artists instrumentals. I'm confused as to why NF called "Clouds" a mixtape.
27million views on just one song on TH-cam tho. How many you got lifetime?
I strongly believe NF was created in a lab to be a SFW Eminem for soccer moms
How many nf song have you listened to if not then stfu
Harsh but very true
@@stewiegriffinfortnight2160 it's not true stop being a kiss ass
He's not a eminem wannabe or anything he is his own person
@@thephenom9583 cap
4:19 it's funny because NF actually does wanna collab with AJR 💀
I don't mind NF
I don't like most of AJR
And I think AJR has worse sounding music... But man, I wanna see wtf that's gonnsa sound like 😂
lol this who NF wrote Let ‘Em Pray for lol
I love this breakdown, dont agree with most of what you said, but you I understand where you come from, very well worded for both sides of people who like him and who don’t like him, great job!
So people said he has no variety in his music and now when he puts out different music and they hate it
What are you talking about this is literally the same shit.
@@sarang8585 you clearly didnt listen to the album. Tell me one song from The Search (his previous album) that sounds like HAPPY from this album
@@sarang8585 this is so different, the only song that sounds the same is hope
@@Maxjhodgson sorry it’s just hard to take NF seriously sometimes when he is this corny and basic I can’t take it it’s unlistenable tbh
@@jayp7552”They Prayin on my downfall, let em pray”
As a longtime NF fan I couldn’t agree more with this review. I walked away with a couple tracks like “Careful” and “Mama” but outside of that this record is below mid. From a guy who can’t stop rapping about his progress and position in music, this record doesn’t sound that far off from his debut nearly a decade ago. I think NF has some genuinely good song ideas and a hell of a lot of passion but the fact that he’s been working with the same producer (Tommy Profit) who keeps tacking on these corny, dated, ugly beats to his records, unchallenged, for over 10 years shows a real lack of progress and challenge. Especially on Hope
if it ain't broke don't fix it :)
Shut up you were never a fan if the only songs you liked were careful and mama...
Imagine being a “ life long NF fan “
@@kylislarue1052 would be be worse than " life long nf hater " that's pain
@@anasg2419 Nope, all great music comes from people doing things which haven't been done before.
To be real Fantana oh, I didn’t want to watch her reaction at first just because I thought you were just gonna go into it with insults and not even try and look at anything else. But there are a few points you made that I would have to agree with, like feeling like Nate’s sound is generally pretty stagnant. My hope is while he has changed a little bit, I can only hope that he’ll change more in the future.
Damn I wonder if the eminem comparison he gives nf comes from how dramatic nf tones in his music could be at times and if so csn a rapper have that type of tone without being compared to eminem. I also was surprised to hear Antony say the production on this album was mid I think when I listen to nf what I like about him the most are the dramatic cinematic sound his production has. Even tho I think at times it's been overused by him
Yes, you can have that type of time without being compared to Eminem. Ace Hood and Montana of 300 have very aggressive tonality, but they never get compared to Eminem because they bring their own unique vocal styles to it. Ace Hood's " Trials and Tribulations" is a good example.
“You’re not an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, smothered in a mystery”
😂😂😂💀💀
I disagree with this analysis, but I understand where he's coming from. Fantano is speaking directly about the music itself, which is his job. Musically it is the same stuff we've heard from Mansion, to Clouds. Conceptually it's miles different however. This album (as all of NF's albums) are made for his fans, not the industry. That's the point he was trying to make throughout this album.
When he talks about not being an industry clone, he means that he could push his musical boundaries, but that's not what he makes music to do. He doesn't make music for the recognition of his peers. He makes music to speak to those who really listen to him. I'm not saying you should listen to him, but he makes music for those who do. People from the outside, who don't care about what he has to say, will see monotony in him musically (Fantano). Which is 100% understandable. But for those who have been in really dark places in life and followed NF as he poured his demons out on songs over the last 10 years, this album is his Magnum Opus. For all of those fans who related to the things he's gone through and written about, this album proves to everyone that there is a light on the other side. The album is titled Hope, not because NF is hopeful for anything, but to show all of his fans who he knows go through similar problems, that they need to hold on to Hope. That you will always find your way out of dark places if you work hard enough to.
Yes musically this is everything we have heard before, and I'm not arguing with the review in any way. But this album was never created for the Fantanos of the world. It was created for everyone who has been on this journey with him for years, who actually care about the struggles he goes through, and feel like we can connect with him and his journey through his music. This one meant a lot to his fans.
Yea as a fantano stan, I can get behind this, well articulated 👍
not reading allat
Didn't read all of this but I agree with u. NF is basically doing it for the fans
I'm pretty sure Fantano understands that, though. Lol. Like he literally mentioned that he understands how some people may connect with it. So it seems like you don't disagree with his analysis at all. Lol
Shame his fanbase is the worst and can’t form an opinion.
Id be interested in what someone who has never listened to NF thinks about this album. As someone who has listened to the search a lot it's just too much of the same
most generic bs ive ever heard honestly i couldn't listen for more than 5 minutes it sounds like stock footage but music
I’m not going to upfront deny it, but can someone explain to me how NF CURRENTLY sounds like em? I saw a parallel between his forgiveness for his mother like what em did in headlights, but beyond that his music doesn’t feel at all the same to me as em’s does.
I will admit he certainly did at one point though. For context, nf is my favorite rapper, followed by j cole, Benny, mf doom, and kendrick
Def his older stuff does sound like em. But I’d say from perception on he sounds nothing like Em.
@@quacksun5959 you just wrote the man’s name in lower cases 😡😡😡😡😡 ⚠️poser detected⚠️
@@ryder240 the all caps doesn’t work on my phone 😭
@@hunnathegunna5616 i saw a clip where NF says the only music he listened to for like 4 years was eminem, before he discovered new artists. that might be the reason.
It always amazes me how many of literally the same song can someone put out and still enjoy a moderate success
Most of his music is different lol compare the clouds song with suffice
Yea it seems to be a trend in the music industry and people eat it up
I mean you could say a lot of artists have songs lyrically similar. I think the main difference being the style/genre of the music; with other types of music the words aren't always important (like Metal lol); but with rap, the lyrics are probably the biggest focal point of the tracks, so for [the lyrics] to be similar themes really can make songs feel too 'samey' 🙄
Clearly never been to Nashville. So many artists been there for +10 yrs just rewrite the same 2-5 songs w virtually identical instrumental and th same themes in the writing, and their fans typically eat it up. The they wonder why they are the butt of so many jokes.
Plenty of artists do that, it's just a matter of what artist you don't like does it, then u call it out lol
I really think you dont get what he is trying to say tbh. I dont think he is trying to say that he isnt popular or something... he is just saying that he is going hes own way and he doesnt care about what would make him even more popular. He is grateful for where he stands but would never change anythink just to get more popularity. I also disagree with many more points but thats just one example of them. Its just not about "Yeah i wanna be diffrent" its more about "im going my own way and i do what i like and what fits with me".
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
i think the growth is personal for NF. throughout his career hes been a dark person but in this album he changes the tone, i think its truly not understanding what he meant with the ideology of hope. every song showed his new version of hope. he gave u everything u could ask for and he didnt even rlly rap fast once throughout the whole thing💀it sucks that he constantly gets compared to Em but tbh this album was a turning point for his personal life and fans can sense and feel that in this record. If he can be happy, then theres hope we can to.
Melon is just a hater fr
@@micaiahclark he's not a hater, unless you count hating school threats as hating
I agree. This is a very different album but I still love it.
@@cemetarypolka father leave ya at a young age?
I ain't reading that meat riding essay🗣️🗣️🗣️😂😂😂
"arguing with a demon voice" is the most Eminem thing I've ever heard
literally something em did like 25 years ago and evem he definetly wasnt the first one to do that
so?
em actually argued with the devil on a relapse track lol
Could you say it was an…NFL?
No, the album was great, better than drakes 😂. First person shooter is the only good thing off that album
"comes across just as self-obsessed as the narcissistic clout chasers that he's trying to separate himself from" perfectly describes the odd feeling I couldn't put my finger on about this album
I do not care what anyone says, this is my favorite album of all time!
what about clouds
@@styyl8651that’s a mixtape not an album
lol
@@Sophie.dex17 same thing
omg hiiii fernando!!!!!!!!!! haiii >:3
I liked the album personally
stop being racist
Same
Loved it too. Don’t agree with points made in this vid. Misses the boat but o well.
I get what your saying, but this entire album is him closing his ways that were shown in the search, especially running, shows that hes done, so we'll see what his next album is
Can't believe this scored this low. I thought this was a decent NF outing. Few of the songs actually got put on a few of my playlists. But yeah, it's almost impossible to be an "against the grain" mainstream artist unless you're controversial in and/or outside of your music (ie. Kanye).
@@Soberish91 do you not like christians? Im Jewish and NF is one of my most played artists of all time. Him being religious is the last thing I think of when I listen to this music. all his lyrics that do relate can easily be interpreted and applied to anybody in any situation. It doesn't have to be ur cup of tea, but why comment so much negativity? Listen to Remember This. Im a better and more aware person today because of the words I heard many years ago from NF.
The numbers he does is pretty astounding tbh tho, I thought he was a lot smaller but so many of his fans come out of nowhere to praise every so often
not hard to hit an idiot when throwing a pebble in a crowd ig
@@christopheviens6468 and there’s millions upon millions of them lol
@@christopheviens6468 that is a funny ass phrase lmao
It’s weird like when Dax makes a corny song everyone clowns on him but when NF does it a bunch of teens and young adults who don’t like swearing come and defend it harder than the Japanese defended Iwo Jima
@@Josehem469when did people’s problems and struggles become corny?
Oof. This is a bad day for the Kyles
HOO HA
u are brad
This guy is like the critic Anton Ego from Ratatouille.
NF is actually my favourite musician. Not my favourite rapper, but i like his music style. I like his singing. And the concert i went on was, damn, it was a blast. Really, really good. Although there are some parts i don't enjoy about him. My teeth are gritting when i hear that high pitched voice in some of the songs. The Hope album isn't very deep in meaning, but i think it adds very well to his dicsography. There is some evident growth as a human, especially the song MAMA agains How Could You Leave Us in 2016. Regardless, this is one of the albums i enjoy, i like to return to it and even there is the one song that i hate, and it has not enough SUFFICE. Damn. The biggest problem I see people have with him being he is basically almost not evolving. But, the thing with this album is, it is a getaway to the second half of 2010's for me. And i very much enjoy it. I think this album is enjoyable, i can't really judge him for making the music that he himself likes. I do too.
"eminem if he was a theater kid" is the perfect description of nf lmao
Not for NF, but definitely for the title song HOPE
This is what you can literally say for any white rapper... that tries to be a lyricists... IT's so fucking racist
I completely understand the temptation to compare NF to Eminem given their shared love for rap and their similar styles, particularly in NF's earlier work. However, it's important to note that while Eminem and NF share some similarities in their style and subject matter, they also have significant differences in their approach, tone, and content.
Comparing them as if they were interchangeable ignores these distinctions and misrepresents their artistic visions. Moreover, it perpetuates the false notion that all white rappers are interchangeable or that they owe their success solely to their race, rather than their talent, hard work, and dedication.
Both Eminem and NF have grown and evolved as artists over the years, and only surface-level similarities remain between their music. Eminem has experimented with different styles, themes, and sounds, while NF has transitioned from his earlier style, which heavily drew inspiration from Eminem's aggressive delivery and storytelling, to a more personal, emotional, and melodic approach.
It's important to acknowledge and appreciate their growth and diversity as they continue to explore and push the boundaries of their art. Both Eminem and NF have carved out unique paths in the rap world, and it's through their individuality and creativity that they have gained their own loyal fan base's. Therefore, rather than focusing on surface-level similarities or outdated comparisons, it's more fruitful to appreciate their respective talents and contributions as they continue to evolve and inspire future generations of artists.
I believe that dismissing NF as simply "Eminem if he was a theater kid" is disrespectful to both men, who are grown and successful in their fields. It's important to appreciate and celebrate their individuality and unique contributions to the world of rap music.
I’ve been an diehard NF fan since I was in 6th grade. I’m 19 now and I can’t help but agree with Fantano. He’s totally right. I mean I liked the album more than he did, but I was disappointed because it’s nothing new. I’ve also come to realize many NF fans are close-minded people lmao like it’s okay to not agree with people and it’s okay to listen to other artists besides NF, AJR, and 21 pilots. It’s okay to listen to mainstream rap like Drake and Travis Scott. Cordae’s feature was the highlight of the album for real lol. Personally I’d give this album a 4.5
I’m praying you become okay one day 🙏
AJR is amazing.
Bro I'm an nf fan I grew up on listening to rap bone thugz n hormony. Tech n9ne many other people hate on nf because he dosent cuss or talkin about bitches an drugs
well it's still your only opinion.
I agree. I also used to be a diehard fan and I was very close minded
If you sort comments by newest, you can find all the NF stans that took this video way to seriously.
yeah they pissed💀💀
Hell yeah 😎, I see a lot of NF fans they're pissed lol
I’m a NF fan but bro these comments from nf fans are insane 😭
YES
aint know way haha
He had admitted to having to stop listening to em cause you could hear it in his music but he had found his own sound now he is his own person
Is he really tho?
@@amekgomo5250 are you? Cause your lack of respect concerns me
@@themintlyill1502 if you consider being respectful and dishonest the same thing then I guess I'm not respectful. NF hasn't really differentiated himself all that much from the see of Eminem clones
@@amekgomo5250yes he has he raps real life not BS like Eminem does
Yeah the song Mama made me cry the first time I heard it. I'm glad you could see the genuine emotion in that one.
I like how you all say he just does the same thing but then will proceed to listen to 20 songs about the same thing
What
@@Withon you know what I said was right
@@yoboydragon8519 the issue is largely about musical innovation as well as lyrical.
What in the world are you talking about
@@simanolastname2399 pretty simple what I am talking about if u paid attention to the video then looked at my comment u would now what I am talking about
I honestly enjoyed 'The Search' and 'Perception' but I do wish he would evolve a little lol. Every album has sounded more or less the same but somehow the theatre sound has gotten worse. So, ig he has evolved, but in the wrong direction
The only theatre song in this album is hope lol
@thechhexpert nahhh a lot of them are mainstream hip hop sounding
Sounds like the singer from Twenty One Pilots trying to be a lyrical miracle rapper. Ehhhh it's pretty annoying...
This man really dont like NF lol He makes some fair points, but I feel his last album was alot more emotional on a personal level and he still doesnt seem to have liked that either as until now he has never reviewed one of his albums.
Just because NF stands for Nice Friend doesnt mean you have to give him a 10, Anthony.
yes it does tfym
fake ass fan
Feels more like hating on him is the trend, so both fans and haters are kinda brainless
@@allanqueme4608 okay buddy
how u gonna give lil pump and nf the same rating 😭😭😭
Fantano said no one is praying on his downfall. You read 80% of these comments and thats whats insinuated as well as in this "review". Nearly every take he has is just so backwards and ignorant but hey do you
NF be rapping on them Christopher Nolan type beats.
tenet lol
NF bragging about not doing features is a lowkey self-own....I have a feeling Kendrick, JID, etc weren't exactly reaching out to him....
Bro think he J.Cole 💀💀
Exactly what I was thinking when he mentioned that too. Like, who’s really out here giving NF a call for a feature? Lmao
It's not about doing features with them tho, it's just like other artists in general, he mentions that Kendrick is someone who he likes, which I'm sure means he'd want to do a track with him, but i get what you mean
I must’ve missed the part of the album where NF screamed “KENDRICK LAMAR REACHED OUT TO ME AND I SAID ‘NUH UH’!”
My only problem is Jackman got a light 5 and Hope got a “not good.” That’s CRAZY 😭
jackman was decent hope is the sane song on repeat
@@Zxltrxn13 bro you definitely didn’t listen to it then. You can’t listen to Mama and then Careful and say that’s the same song 😂 Jackman was fuckin ass
I'm personally still amazed that we continue to make Eminem comparisons and jokes about NF at this point. They are both completely different artists in terms of message and who they cater to. NF's music comes from his ability to share his emotions and experiences in creative ways, even the experiences of others that he might not have experienced himself. His beats and production are different than Eminem's and I don't need to explain. He doesn't curse in his music, which isn't unheard of and not done before, but it's something different from what some people generally hear in rap. I'm not saying these things aren't done better by other artists, but in this review, I feel as if these are not represented to give him individuality. As a result, whether intentionally or unintentionally, the somewhat repeated Eminem comparisons, and the lack of research done to highlight NF as a creative in his own right paint him as an Eminem clone. To me, he's done crazy good numbers and has built up too much of a successful career to be seen in that light, he's earned some form of respect as an artist instead of referring to him as "Emimen if he were a theater kid".
Not swearing is not individuality its lame
@@WhyDidTheyChooseMe Please explain how not swearing is lame.
@@jmbeats3308 thinking it adds to someone is lame. Sure you can not swear but using that as a oh that makes him better is lame af. Its words and honestly anyone I met who doesn’t swear is lame and takes shit too seriously
@@WhyDidTheyChooseMe Where do I specifically say it makes him better? All I’m saying is that not swearing is a part of his music and that he like anyone else as an artist deserves respect. Also your second and third sentences are just your opinion, I disagree, but that’s your opinion.
@@jmbeats3308 the dweebs who would go and tell on me for swearing in class are what nf is. You fit in with them.
All my friends love NF and i feel like I'm really bringing everyone down when i share my opinions. I actuality liked the pop stuff he did on his last album, but this felt like a regression back into the same old thing.
Worst song was Bullet. I just can't bring myself to give a single eff about any "I love my wife" song. Also, NF's complaints about the industry are so shallow and weird. The industry is less centralized than ever and the charts and grammies have been crapping themselves trying to catch up. But he still thinks we're in the pre-streaming age, for some reason.
Yeah but you prefer ,a song about a bitvh tweaking than someone who shares a connection to you
Honestly, I feel as if his song bullet was amazing. Despite the theme being cliche and overused in most music it really shows how far he’s come, his song lie showing his relationship-wise trauma.
So for me, bullet was just a heartwarming song and it’s just very real, once you get a kid or get married I feel we will relate more to this song.
My brother-in-law introduced me to NF with HOPE and I really liked it. Despite what Melon says, given the context of NF's journey it is quite a powerful point in his career. Granted, he is right that the orchestration is quite a bit overboard, though. I haven't dug too far back in his discography, but I could really tell that NF has talent.
My brother-in-law has been trying to get me to finish this album, though and I'm just really struggling to get through it. And a lot of what Anthony is saying really describes my feeling toward it. Like, I know this guy has the skill to make something meaningful, but this just feels like hes becoming the sell-out he swears he's not. It's just so formulaic and derivative of so much from the past fifteen years. I know his mental struggles are a major theme in his music, but it really seems like he's at a point where he believes he's taking the steps to become more self aware, but really he's just projecting his own insecurities. Many of which I can empathize with, but still.
He talks so much crap about the music industry as if HE doesn’t work for them at the end of the day. He doesn’t even own the rights to any of his albums as well. It’s also an honor to be able to win a Grammy and be able to perform at an award show but his record label doesn’t even bother to squeeze him in there because he’s going to depress everyone in that room with his “I’m not like any of you” lyrics. I get he thinks he’s an outsider or whatever but he’s already 32 and not in high school, he has money and fame so what exactly makes him feel so depressed about his own life to say he’s not popular or something. It just makes me cringe and 12 year olds eat it up.
2023 Updated Journey List
🎶 This is for anyone new who may want to take the NF journey. All of his albums are like a connected series.
He also hides eggs in his videos which he co-directs and co-produces.
For example in his “When I Grow Up” song there were four hidden eggs in that song: 1. A black balloon by the trash cans (black balloon represents his burdens per search single) 2 In the burger joint he grabbed at receipt that had the date and time of when his song time was being released. 3. He had outcast written on his name tag in the janitor scene which references his Outcast song. 4. He had his moments album CD in car scene
Another example is in the search song he had cage in background he rapped in from his outcast song. Search single also connects to Hope. In Hope he has the “map to hope”.
The black smile you will see painted on his mouth is explained in his therapy session song.
Here is the song order:
MANSION ALBUM:
1. All I have (VIDEO)- Will connect to his Suffice single from Hope album.
2. Intro (VIDEO) (Connects to Outro)
3. Mansion- *will connect to Intro 3. Fear moved in. Also connects to paid my dues. Anger lives in basement* Lastly it connects to Hope single.
4. Wake Up (VIDEO) connects to Intro 2 and Outro.
5. Paralyzed- Connects to Let you down and Trauma
6. Wait (VIDEO)
7. Notepad (VIDEO) *He explains why he does not cuss in his music🎶*
THERAPY SESSION ALBUM:
1. Intro 2 (VIDEO) *He calls out his song wake up and has names of all songs written on walls from this album. You will also see references to his intro song as well.*
2. Therapy Session (VIDEO) Very important song. Explains his black smile he paints on his mouth.
3. I just wanna know (VIDEO)-Will connect to Outro video.
4. How could you leave us-(VIDEO) Please have tissues nearby. Will connect to his Mama single.
5. Real song- (VIDEO) * He pays homage to Lil Wayne in this song by using his famous line feed me rappers or feed me beats but adding feed me both of them 🔥* Also connects to Outro video.
6. Grindin’ ft. Marty (VIDEO)
7. Oh Lord-* This song gets referred to in returns song two albums later.* Great song
8. Statement *He pays homage to eminem and drake in this song* (hype song)
Warm Up -(VIDEO) Single released between albums. (hype song)
Epiphany- collab with futuristic. (VIDEO) *He pays homage to meek mill.*
PERCEPTION ALBUM:
1. Outro (VIDEO) *pay attention to the video. It is like avengers endgame how he connects tons of previous videos materials in this.* connects to Wake up, therapy session, intro 1, real single, and I just wanna know single.
2. Green Lights-(VIDEO) * Please pay attention to what he has written on the notepad at the end
3. Intro 3 (one of his best songs) *This connects to mansion single. Remember fear. reference. Connects to hope single
4. Outcast (VIDEO)- will connect to clouds video.connects to Hope single
5. Know- *He pays homage to eminem and 21 pilots* (hype)
6. Destiny (hype)-Mansion single is mentioned in this song.
7. One hundred (hype)
8. Let you down (VIDEO) please watch to the very very end! Plots twist. Connects to hope single.
9. If you want love (VIDEO)
10. Remember this- *💎 Gems all over this track!*
Single: No Name. (VIDEO) *This gets connected in leave me alone song an album later.* connects to Motto as well with the VIP part.
Single: Why- (VIDEO) *NF pays big homage to Big Sean as he uses his flow from bounce back in this and mentions Big Seans name and his album I decided. (This isnt nates flow he says)
Also he has a ton of eggs like Dont mess with real music written on walls. Pay attention to all writing on the walls* connects to Motto as well
SEARCH ALBUM
Whole album should be listened to. Below is mainly the journey songs and hype songs:
1 The search (VIDEO) *He pays homage to kanye west. (Cant tell me nothing by kanye and he puts his hands on his head like kanye did in video) this also connects to outcast re the cage in background)* connects to Hope single as well-map to hope
2. When I grow up (VIDEO) *He pays homage to Adele. (To me he also did to snoop in opening scene with kids saying what they wanted to be when they grow up)* Hidden eggs in this connects to Motto (the fan sipping the drink)
3. Leave me alone (VIDEO) * This connects to no name single.*
4. Change- this song is mentioned in his search single.
5. Nate- He mentions all his past albums.
6. Time (VIDEO) Song for his wife.
7. Returns- (hype song) one of his best for flow switches and word play- connects to oh lord single
8. Only - I feel like part two of this is Just like you from clouds mixtape.
9. Let me go- connects to Hope
10. Interlude then I hate myself song. In running he mentions Hate Myself.
11. I miss the days
12. No excuses (hype song)
13. Options (hype song) connects to clouds video with the ref scene
14. Trauma singing only song. Amazing. Connects to Search Intro Single.
Paid My Dues (VIDEO)
It was to the awful article rolling stones put out because the writer was a big chance the rapper fan and was pissed NF took number one spot. Over 400 people bashed that writer in the comments lol
Chasing -demo he did with a fan. This was very nice of him to do. This also will connect to the whole theme of Clouds Mixtape.
CLOUDS THE MIXTAPE-
1. Clouds (VIDEO) * This connects to outcast single turn the music up and options singles* connects to hope single
2. Lost ft Hopsin (VIDEO) connects to hope single (reins) also connects to search theme with black balloons (burdens)
3. Story (VIDEO) This is one of his best for story telling singles!
4. That’s a Joke (pays homage to J Cole from no role modelz)
5. Just like you (connects to Hope single where his older self is giving him wrong directions)
6. Prideful-Connects to Lost as he speaks about pride in that single.
7. Drifting (connects to Hope single)
8. Trust ft Tech N9ne- To me this connects to running single from Hope. As he mentions “if you have never been afraid then why you running?”
HOPE ALBUM
1.Hope- (video) connects to Drifting, Lost Ft Hopsin, Mansion single, Outcast, let you down, search single (map to hope), let me go, just like you, and why.
2.Motto-(video) connects to when i grow up (same fan sipping drink) no name, happy, and why singles.
3.Mama-Connects to How could you leave us single.
4.Suffice-Connects to All I have single. He even uses a line from this single as well in this.
5.Careful Ft Cordae- Pays homage to J Cole.
6.Turn my back- Shouts out Kanye, Drake, Eminem, Dr. Dre, J Cole, Kendrick, Cordae, Big Sean, 6LACK. Shouts out God’s Plan by Drake as well in this.
7. Bullet- The whole song is written for his wife.
8. Running. Very important song. Connects to Hope intro single. He is speaking to the dark side of him. Hope is taking the reins!
(The whole album is amazing so please listen to the rest of the music when you can. Nothing else is a call back to his older music)
There are many good songs not on this list like Dreams and you’re special etc.
At some point take the time and go back through and listen to them all. 🖤
hell nah
@@Mauricio-ch5lj oh yeah!
Not Reading allat 💯
@@Withon aww sucks to be lazy and uniformed
Glad I am not like that
@@NIKKI-1979 don’t lie if nf was black you’d call it mumble rap
Idk you make it sound like the album is a failure. An album is an expression of emotion and you don’t have to like it but again your reviewing it like it’s a cell phone. He’s sharing it with you. Yes some artists do it for the money but I can assure you his music is passion. I thought it was a beautiful album.
He didn't make it sound like a cell phone review.
Ouch. NF fans will not see that one coming
"You'll never see it coooomiiiinggg....."
*Ambatukam*
We did see it coming. We know how much Fantano doesn’t like NF. There’s some fair criticisms for sure but some ridiculous ones too
@@gamermonkey153 Agreed, Clouds was somehow much better
@@Adog00 Really? Why did I think he always praised him? I must be thinking of someone else
Every time I hear an NF song my brain goes "I swear I've heard this before" and I know I haven't but I can't shake that feeling. Like, it's not bad music. It's just... so familiar.
it’s not bad, just incredibly mediocre
same like all your fav rappers
@@anasg2419 All my favorite new rappers Like JID, KAAN, Kenny Mason, Grip, Nostrum Grocers, Elucid, Billy Woods, Navy Blue, etc. all have extremely unique and well crafted bodies of work. NF does not. NF has some of he most generic cookie cutter "TH-cam lyrical miracle" and "I only listen to Eminem, Logic, Hopsin, Joyner Lucas, token, and Tom Macdonald vibes". He's just not very good imo.
@@myjciskate4 It's unfortunate that some in the rap audience in the US are more focused on glorifying thuggery and drug use, rather than recognizing the true artistry in music. This is particularly evident in the popularity of certain rappers who rely heavily on explicit content to gain success.
However, to say that NF's success is solely due to his white and religious fan base is simply untrue. His talent and unique style have earned him a dedicated following of fans from all backgrounds who appreciate his artistry and message and his last album outsold taylor the creator himself so don't try to compare nf with dax or token or hopsin etc.. these guys ain't close to his numbers or success.
As for some of the respected rappers in the US, it's important to acknowledge that their popularity may be due to the current state of the rap industry and audience's tastes, rather than their true talent as artists. While some may enjoy the repetitive beats and autotune of certain rappers, there are others who crave the substance and emotional depth that NF brings to his music.
In the end, it's all about personal preference and what speaks to each individual listener. But there's no denying that NF's talent and authenticity make him stand out among the crowd of today's rap industry.. nf still outsolding many of the rappers you mentioned if I'm not saying all of them lol
@@anasg2419 Go read my other comments. No one is talking about trap rappers or trying to compare him to trap rappers. We're comparing him to other lyrical rappers. NF is pretty much bottom of the Barrell when it comes to lyrical rappers.
Any chance of you doing a review of Lloyd Banks new album The Course of The Inevitable III? Curious to hear your thoughts on it
1 why dont people watch till the end before talking out of their asses?
2 judgong from what I've read in the comments nf fans thibk that all rap is just money drugs bitches and violence(typical suburban) and that bot ralking about that or cursing somehow automatically makes nf better
He was actually really nice about how he didn’t like it this part made me happy 7:47
NF is rap for twenty one pilots fans.
THIS IS NOT RAP THIS IS NOT HIP HOP ITS JUST AN ATTMEPT TO MAKE THE VOICES STOP
And both are phenomenal.
21pilots way better
Alright I respect your honesty and that it just not for u I appreciate u being full honest even though I love this record I know it not for everyone so 10 out 10 keep up the good work
First time i heard an NF alboum and as a HUGE eminem fan, i liked it🔥
Dont know y he dosent like it🤷♂️
Corny
@@PasteurizedLettuce idk what about you, but i would take listening to NF every day over most mainstream new rappers, like i would rather hearing "hope" than hearing travis yell "FIEN" into the mic for 3 minuts stright🤷♂️
@@yotammatsliah5094 Travis is a much better artist than NF lmao but they’re operating in completely different subgenres. What you don’t like is trap. Just go listen to Kendrick Lamar or JID or someone who can actually rap
if it was called NF Grips The Hope Store you would have given it at least a ten