Thank you Brother Given, I think we should really focus on learning and teaching the Scripture so that we won't worry about izimfundiso zoBaba uHamashe. UJesu uyiNkosi ebusayo eyabuya ephila kithi amen.
Thank you Ps Gobhozi. I think there's no need for Prof/King Nala to come back. He has left the faith so we don't need further discussion/debate from him with things relating to the faith. Let him continue with his plentiology. We wish him well.
Thank you once again Pastor Zweli about bringing Pastor Gobhozi which brought more clarity and we are taught more of our believe ....thank you we can't wait for the big day between Pastor Given and Prof Nala
Dying in Christ is actually the secret to peace of mind. Because you won't have to stress yourself about what to do and what not or what information to believe or not to believe, you will just trust in him and know that he will and is leading you in this journey of righteous living.
Education is key,somebody ones said little knowledge is dangerous,now you explain so well that what he teaches comes from certain sources which is also polluted Thanks Pastor Given for displaying such deep knowledge
It would have been better if you have this conversation with Babu Nala maybe bring him back with Gobhozi so they can hv a proper conversation my opinion....
@@sprtsafe funny question hey...how did we know that there were going to bring Gobhozi ?? Really did you even know that babu Nala was going to speak in that way??
I don’t agree with the beliefs of babNala, however that doesn’t mean we as Christians should look down on him as a person. I think some Christians do turn to be prideful and arrogant, even looking down on others has become a norm but they will do it jokingly. Pastor Zweli & Pastor Given I think the introduction of the show could have been better without the sarcasm that you guys kept on throwing in your conversation. One of the reasons why other people don’t take Christianity seriously is because there’s lack of love from believers I hope we as Christians can make it a point to represent Jesus in good way. Respect is everything no matter what.
In this way, we will no longer be like children, tossed back and forth by the waves and swept along by every new wind of teaching, emanating from human cunning and craftiness and leading people into error - Ephesians 4:14
Children of God 🙏🙏 all you need to do is just completely surrender to Christ (the Savior) or the spirit of Christ in you and then allow him to put all the nonsense in your mind into submission 🤞 Pretend as if you are dead and it's Christ who is living in you😊😊 trust me you will find inner peace and no religion politics shall prevail against you🙏🙏🙏.
🤔Mntase Christianity doesn't need any saving, trust me it is very much capable of saving itself. You guys need to grow and learn not to be hard on people like Nala. They didn't put themselves in that position, they are just doing exactly what God wants them to do🤞. Take a lesson and move🙏🙏🙏🙏
Once you get to a point of knowing that Jesus Christ is nothing but just an embodiment of infinite love, you will be automatically freed from the religion politics because you won't need the Bible to convince you about the death of Christ for our Sins. By just knowing the capability of infinite love, you will automatically know that it can do anything in order to redeem people 🤞. 😊😊You will just read the Bible to get wisdom, insight and inspiration that it brings forth 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I have a question Ps Given Ghobhozi, if I am at home and do not have any knowledge of what you talking about and I find all these 114 contradictions in the bible, all by myself, how would know if I copied whoever's work from somewhere since the bible is a book available to us all?
Pastor Gobhozi should stop misleading people. The Gospel is about wealth. The book of genesis records a history of opulence and wealth amongst Gods people. Jesus was born into wealth, and his 12 apostles were wealthy before he chose them. Andrew, Peter, James and John were fishermen. Mathew was a tax collector. Simon was a politician etc. The robe he was wearing during crucifixion had to be torn to pieces and auctioned because it was expensive. Instead of dealing with the contradictions King Somnala mentions, he gives a very long irrelevant history lecture. He does not dispute the contradictions but tries to justify them in his own interpretation. Proof of Jesus existence is there. The cloth they used to cover him still exists in the vatican called "the Turin Shroud". The empty tomb still exists in Israel. The place where he was crucified still exists in Israel.
"The gospel is about wealth" Yo hayi this statement alone is very misleading brother. At least if you were saying the gospel on it's own is wealth, I was gonna agree with you because In Christ there is abandance of everything that you can think of 🙏 My point in this is that for us who are in Christ wealth is not something that we must chase or want but something we supposed to know we have. Chasing is never a good thing, the world is where it is today because of people who were or are chasing wealth and power🙏🙏🙏
@@FundaL1989 Fact is the bible documents a chronology of wealth and how God abundantly blessed his people with wealth. I will not go through the bible as i will assume you read it. So you are thecone who is misled. The chasing of wealth and power by people through whatever means does not change this fact.
@@Sweets66181 l like the fact that you said "God abundantly blessed his people" So I'm what I'm saying is, Even us who are In Christ we have already been abundantly blessed by God so we don't need to chase anything but anyways I get where you are coming from🤞 My point in all this is for you to see that it is not the things of this world that we must contemplate about but things of our savior for we are now one with him. Things of this world of this world are just a trap so it's pivotal for you to enjoy and then detach yourself from them.
@@FundaL1989 absolutely true. I totally agree with you. “If you are in christ nothing is impossible”. What Im against are false notions by a man of God which are not based on any biblical foundation. Thats why people are turning away from christianity cos of such false hoods. We need to teach the authentic word of God as stated in the bible.
if the bible is based on someones recollection, we can not say its the word of god. what Ghobozi explained is that non of the gospel writers were hearing from God, they were just writing daily life events based on what they can remember.
No my sister the the is no contradiction in Mathew 27 ves 5 and Act 1 ves 18 as GIVEN has explain that most of Nalas confusion is taken from Muslims guys he named them, but for the sake of clarity Matthew records the method in which Judas attempted his death. Luke in the book of act reports the end result since he was a doctor so his explanation is more like post mortem the other 1 is not arguing the hanging but is explaining what happened when judas body fell on the ground after it was hanging and being decomposed by bacteria. If you not satisfied with the answer I can explain father...
For example when you see someone being hit by the car while walking by you explanations will be about the color of the car and how it came and hit the person yet when a next person comes later on the same scene his focus will be how a person was like on the ground maybe he will give details of how the intestines were out and broken legs and arms hope it clear
@@jabulanizungu6933 hayi baba Le indaba ayinayo neze into ehlangene nesingesi ihlangene nengqikithi Yale topic abazama ukuyibungula la and yena lobaba ugobhozi ayibambeki naye Le azama ukyichaza nje iyefana nalesingesi osibhale la
Inkinga Ile yokwazi ukuthi you r smart and you always wright ingakho ezama ukuchaza into edinga simele iqiniso nje inkolo nje sinikezwe abalungu befuna ukudla umhlaba then this sithole iZulu wow 😳😳
The main question is therefore "is Jesus the only way" for us Africans. Polemics will not help us. We need sound theological arguments to guide us properly before we are misled.
Cultures and religions are nothing but a bunch of politics created by humans. Reality is in your or inside your body🤞 It is your soul that must be saved from Adamic kingdom ( mind, feelings and negative emotions). Mind includes information you gather here on Earth and one that is already in your DNA, your soul need to be saved from these things. Everything Adamic belong here on Earth but you soul is heavenly so you need to make soul to surrender to the spirit of the Savior in you ( it is the same that has been convicting you all these years, it's not something foreign).
God has infinite wisdom , numbers are infinite now ask a genius Mathematician or program a computer that will assume the closest number to infinite , then you will see, non will be even closer , same thing to this guys non of them is closer to God's truth and eqinisweni naye uGobhozi yonke lento aseyishilo ayikho ayicabangele yona it all theory , if uhlulwa i faith leye bhayibheli yekela , because the will never be interpretation without error(bias is real to all man) hence there is no reliable source or interpreter if the bible is not enough , qhubekani ke nalemdlalo yenu, Siba nilokhu nibiza o Gobhozi ngo principal kanjani naye engalazi. Last an attempt to measure the truth of the bible with knowledge of any man is an attempt to dethrone God.
But you disputes his analysis based on what? Coz nawe (in humbled respect) awuzi nama facts okuchitha okwaPs Given. I'll happy to get your view in this line of thinking. Danke
@@simphiwebuthelezi5022 if I may ask this question it might been seen stupid. Have we ever had of anyone born ngaphandle kokuhlangana kwabantu ababili as the Bible does introduce uJesu kanjalo??
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Thank you Brother Given, I think we should really focus on learning and teaching the Scripture so that we won't worry about izimfundiso zoBaba uHamashe. UJesu uyiNkosi ebusayo eyabuya ephila kithi amen.
There is so much to unpack, thank you for this. I still need to learn, there is so much yezinto umuntu angazazi. Thank you
Thank you Ps Gobhozi. I think there's no need for Prof/King Nala to come back. He has left the faith so we don't need further discussion/debate from him with things relating to the faith. Let him continue with his plentiology. We wish him well.
This is true Nam angisamdingi
We must pray for him, to come back to faith.
Thank you once again Pastor Zweli about bringing Pastor Gobhozi which brought more clarity and we are taught more of our believe ....thank you we can't wait for the big day between Pastor Given and Prof Nala
Dying in Christ is actually the secret to peace of mind.
Because you won't have to stress yourself about what to do and what not or what information to believe or not to believe, you will just trust in him and know that he will and is leading you in this journey of righteous living.
Ngiyabonga I learned a lot,thank you 👏👏👏
Siyabonga pastor Gobhozi, very insightful cishe sashiya ibandla sididwa ilensizwa yakaNala
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I enjoyed being in class and we have a good and passionate teacher. Siyabonga 🙏
Brother Given, remind me of David and Goliath 🙏🙏 he is the David of today.
I like how ps Gobhozi introduced the whole perceptional foundation of king Nala concept
Ghobozi thank you for the education 🙌🏼
Education is key,somebody ones said little knowledge is dangerous,now you explain so well that what he teaches comes from certain sources which is also polluted
Thanks Pastor Given for displaying such deep knowledge
It would have been better if you have this conversation with Babu Nala maybe bring him back with Gobhozi so they can hv a proper conversation my opinion....
Yes i agree, not lento abayenzayo to say all these things without him being here to state his views
But why didn't you suggest Gobhozi to be present when nala was giving his twisted theories
@@sprtsafe funny question hey...how did we know that there were going to bring Gobhozi ?? Really did you even know that babu Nala was going to speak in that way??
Wayeth ugog wami "ingane yomthakathi uyizwa ngisho ikhuluma nje" so bafth abany abantu aba la kule platform bangabanjalo, indlela abakhuluma ngayo "bengaphethe lutho njalo bona" uyezwa nje ukth yazi ukfunda kwami le comment "ngidunyelwe izulu eduze kwakwamthakathi nje la"
Kodwa kuhlez kushiwo ukth "this show is for, made by, for Christians,
Manje nishiswa yini Nima? Ngoba ngabe nikholwa enikholwa yikho niyeke thina.......
I don’t agree with the beliefs of babNala, however that doesn’t mean we as Christians should look down on him as a person.
I think some Christians do turn to be prideful and arrogant, even looking down on others has become a norm but they will do it jokingly.
Pastor Zweli & Pastor Given I think the introduction of the show could have been better without the sarcasm that you guys kept on throwing in your conversation.
One of the reasons why other people don’t take Christianity seriously is because there’s lack of love from believers
I hope we as Christians can make it a point to represent Jesus in good way.
Respect is everything no matter what.
Bayadelela nje bobabini,ngiyabanga ukuthi zimfundiso zobaba babo lapho bephumakhona
Well said Mbali🙏🙏🙏
I agree with you Mbali🙏
Pastor Gobhoz, siyabonga 🎉
Leaders knows when to take action after the interview with HQ this interview has to come ASAP. Thank you Pastor Zweli
Thanks my brother. Enjoyed that
In this way, we will no longer be like children, tossed back and forth by the waves and swept along by every new wind of teaching, emanating from human cunning and craftiness and leading people into error - Ephesians 4:14
Siyakuthanda Pastor Zweli. Kukwalele ukuhlala amakholwa ehlaselwa
Itholakalaphi lendoda.we need him as christians
Children of God 🙏🙏 all you need to do is just completely surrender to Christ (the Savior) or the spirit of Christ in you and then allow him to put all the nonsense in your mind into submission 🤞
Pretend as if you are dead and it's Christ who is living in you😊😊 trust me you will find inner peace and no religion politics shall prevail against you🙏🙏🙏.
Bizani uMagejageja, Nala or khehlelezi sinizwe kahle ninga khulumi ngabo bangekho
Pastor Given Gobhozi has just saved Christianity from being destroyed by Bawo uNala😂😂
🤔Mntase Christianity doesn't need any saving, trust me it is very much capable of saving itself.
You guys need to grow and learn not to be hard on people like Nala. They didn't put themselves in that position, they are just doing exactly what God wants them to do🤞.
Take a lesson and move🙏🙏🙏🙏
Big up to the production team. I like what you've done with the intro video this year
Pastor siba pls unlock the download option pls....pastor gobhozi said a lot of informative in this episode.
Ibhoza uGobhozi❤️
Wangikhuphukela uGobhozi💥💥💥💥💥💥🙌
Once you disrespect and undermine other people uvele ungazwakali nokuth uthini.
Well explained 🙏...sicela usilandela Baba Jiyane please 🙏
Once you get to a point of knowing that Jesus Christ is nothing but just an embodiment of infinite love, you will be automatically freed from the religion politics because you won't need the Bible to convince you about the death of Christ for our Sins.
By just knowing the capability of infinite love, you will automatically know that it can do anything in order to redeem people 🤞.
😊😊You will just read the Bible to get wisdom, insight and inspiration that it brings forth 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I have a question Ps Given Ghobhozi, if I am at home and do not have any knowledge of what you talking about and I find all these 114 contradictions in the bible, all by myself, how would know if I copied whoever's work from somewhere since the bible is a book available to us all?
Asbonge gaz lam nawe Siba niychanile🙏
Wachaza Gobhozi ngezwa Nami sike sekwenzenjani masebuye ushaye eceleni
Given Gobhozi 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ijulile indaba ka Gobhozi
The least we can do as Christians is read and study the Bible and further ask God for wisdom when it comes to interpretation.....
Thank you Pastor Gobhozi
Siba i'd like to meet Pastor Gobhozi, where is he based ?
ufikile uteacher omkhulu lol
Pastor Gobhozi should stop misleading people. The Gospel is about wealth. The book of genesis records a history of opulence and wealth amongst Gods people. Jesus was born into wealth, and his 12 apostles were wealthy before he chose them. Andrew, Peter, James and John were fishermen. Mathew was a tax collector. Simon was a politician etc. The robe he was wearing during crucifixion had to be torn to pieces and auctioned because it was expensive.
Instead of dealing with the contradictions King Somnala mentions, he gives a very long irrelevant history lecture. He does not dispute the contradictions but tries to justify them in his own interpretation. Proof of Jesus existence is there. The cloth they used to cover him still exists in the vatican called "the Turin Shroud". The empty tomb still exists in Israel. The place where he was crucified still exists in Israel.
"The gospel is about wealth"
Yo hayi this statement alone is very misleading brother.
At least if you were saying the gospel on it's own is wealth, I was gonna agree with you because In Christ there is abandance of everything that you can think of 🙏
My point in this is that for us who are in Christ wealth is not something that we must chase or want but something we supposed to know we have.
Chasing is never a good thing, the world is where it is today because of people who were or are chasing wealth and power🙏🙏🙏
@@FundaL1989 Fact is the bible documents a chronology of wealth and how God abundantly blessed his people with wealth. I will not go through the bible as i will assume you read it. So you are thecone who is misled. The chasing of wealth and power by people through whatever means does not change this fact.
@@Sweets66181 l like the fact that you said "God abundantly blessed his people" So I'm what I'm saying is, Even us who are In Christ we have already been abundantly blessed by God so we don't need to chase anything but anyways I get where you are coming from🤞
My point in all this is for you to see that it is not the things of this world that we must contemplate about but things of our savior for we are now one with him. Things of this world of this world are just a trap so it's pivotal for you to enjoy and then detach yourself from them.
@@FundaL1989 absolutely true. I totally agree with you. “If you are in christ nothing is impossible”. What Im against are false notions by a man of God which are not based on any biblical foundation. Thats why people are turning away from christianity cos of such false hoods. We need to teach the authentic word of God as stated in the bible.
if the bible is based on someones recollection, we can not say its the word of god. what Ghobozi explained is that non of the gospel writers were hearing from God, they were just writing daily life events based on what they can remember.
Ziyakhala ke make😂😂😂
Ngiyakuzwa mina
We can't describe things the same vele
Mr Gobhozi...👍
Kushuthi kwagejeka😂😂😂Kwagejeka kakhulu 🤦🤦🤦Kodwa befundisi bami
Siyabonga Mr Gobhozi nge information, noma nawe uke wasixaka kulezinyanga ezidlule uthi uJesu kudala abuya I am afraid uMr Nala uzovele akuqale lapho
Wayiyeka indaba kaJuda manje Baba Gobhozi😭
No my sister the the is no contradiction in Mathew 27 ves 5 and Act 1 ves 18 as GIVEN has explain that most of Nalas confusion is taken from Muslims guys he named them, but for the sake of clarity Matthew records the method in which Judas attempted his death. Luke in the book of act reports the end result since he was a doctor so his explanation is more like post mortem the other 1 is not arguing the hanging but is explaining what happened when judas body fell on the ground after it was hanging and being decomposed by bacteria. If you not satisfied with the answer I can explain father...
For example when you see someone being hit by the car while walking by you explanations will be about the color of the car and how it came and hit the person yet when a next person comes later on the same scene his focus will be how a person was like on the ground maybe he will give details of how the intestines were out and broken legs and arms hope it clear
Sixabana ngesihogo qha noGobhozi otherwise uyaliqonda lomzalwane leliVangeli lesphambano kuyajabulisa ukumuzwa njalo
Gobhozi usewumfana baba sorry to say, nalento oyichazayo ayizwakali
Kukade ngilalele ngicabanga ukuthi kukhona azanako sengize ngakhatha😀😀😀
Shuthi wena une listening skill problem noma you re not show about English
@@jabulanizungu6933 hayi baba Le indaba ayinayo neze into ehlangene nesingesi ihlangene nengqikithi Yale topic abazama ukuyibungula la and yena lobaba ugobhozi ayibambeki naye Le azama ukyichaza nje iyefana nalesingesi osibhale la
Sorry but thina abanye simuzwile
Inkinga Ile yokwazi ukuthi you r smart and you always wright ingakho ezama ukuchaza into edinga simele iqiniso nje inkolo nje sinikezwe abalungu befuna ukudla umhlaba then this sithole iZulu wow 😳😳
The main question is therefore "is Jesus the only way" for us Africans. Polemics will not help us. We need sound theological arguments to guide us properly before we are misled.
Cultures and religions are nothing but a bunch of politics created by humans.
Reality is in your or inside your body🤞
It is your soul that must be saved from Adamic kingdom ( mind, feelings and negative emotions).
Mind includes information you gather here on Earth and one that is already in your DNA, your soul need to be saved from these things.
Everything Adamic belong here on Earth but you soul is heavenly so you need to make soul to surrender to the spirit of the Savior in you ( it is the same that has been convicting you all these years, it's not something foreign).
asifundeni ibhayibheli because not even Gobhozi is closer to the truth of God
Kuleyo bible school ka Nala kwakufundwa shevu
Siyabonga Dlamini kuletsa Gobhozi, ngiyabavela bazalwane ba King Somnala labamlandzelako.
Aphi amanga ami ngishilo njalo ngathi akufundweni bakithi khona singezukweduksa abantu, yesterday it was a Herecy!
Nakho ke!
God has infinite wisdom , numbers are infinite now ask a genius Mathematician or program a computer that will assume the closest number to infinite , then you will see, non will be even closer , same thing to this guys non of them is closer to God's truth and eqinisweni naye uGobhozi yonke lento aseyishilo ayikho ayicabangele yona it all theory , if uhlulwa i faith leye bhayibheli yekela , because the will never be interpretation without error(bias is real to all man) hence there is no reliable source or interpreter if the bible is not enough , qhubekani ke nalemdlalo yenu, Siba nilokhu nibiza o Gobhozi ngo principal kanjani naye engalazi. Last an attempt to measure the truth of the bible with knowledge of any man is an attempt to dethrone God.
We Gobhozi uyokhohlisa impatha, lento oyichazayo kwayona imfishimfishi nje
But you disputes his analysis based on what? Coz nawe (in humbled respect) awuzi nama facts okuchitha okwaPs Given.
I'll happy to get your view in this line of thinking.
Danke
@@simphiwebuthelezi5022 if I may ask this question it might been seen stupid. Have we ever had of anyone born ngaphandle kokuhlangana kwabantu ababili as the Bible does introduce uJesu kanjalo??
Who created ukuzalwa nokukhulelwa komtwana if kungasiye umdlali
I think this man is really need all over , ujulile kakhulu. Cishe sadlala unala
Umuntu osezwe lenkiyankiya for 2 weeks,yimi lowo Nkosi yami😂😂😂🤦🤦🤦
🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol
Cha nineskhathi boo sokdlala
Ezinkingeni eziningi kangaka
La emzansi Africa esibhekene nazo
Nina nizixaka kakhulu ngamaJuda angahlangene nani ,eningahlobene ngisho nanawo futh angena msebenzi nomuntu omnyama
Nihlulwa wumlando oseduze okaShaka
Engabe niyawlungisa koda nigxumela
Owezinye izizwe ..
@Siba 760 Tv is it possible to get hold of Mr Given? is he able to teach saints this kind of message, I am very much interested. Please connect me